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Source: LP URL Source: http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/ ... rt.cgi?ArtNum=325540&Disp=8#C8 Published: Sep 12, 2012 Author: me Post Date: 2012-09-12 08:43:46 by Fibr Dog Keywords: None Views: 117648 Comments: 201 #8. To: Goldi-Lox (#3) and will do NOTHING to help them That would be the only smart thing he's done his entire administration. If you want to help them so damned bad then get of your fat, America-hating ass and head on over there. Israel must stop waiting, and ACT. They are a sovereign country. No one is stopping them. What you, Net-and-yahoo, and the rest of your America-hating buddies want is for the US to spend its money and American lives and do it for you while you sit around eating Bon-bons. Israel and you Israeli-firsters are like American welfare recipients. You think everyone owes you something. We don't owe you or Israel squat. Israel is just one of many Middle Eastern s**t holes that isn't worth one American life. And do it NOW before they are nuked! bwhahahahaha. Your stupidity and gullibility knows no bounds. Fibr Dog posted on 2012-09-12 8:35:43 ET Reply Trace Post Comment   Private Reply   Ignore Thread   Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest Begin Trace Mode for Comment # 43. #1. To: Fibr Dog (#0) Isreal is our friend. They are kind of like us. The muslims are our enemy. They are nothing like us. The Jewish culture is great. The muslim culture is shit. I think we should get the Muslims out of America and maybe the earth. The retreat to fortress America. Tell the world to F off. Tear down the UN. A K A Stone  posted on  2012-09-12   9:19:15 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #3. To: A K A Stone (#1) Isreal is our friend. Tell that to the families of the murdered sailors on the USS Liberty. They are kind of like us. They are heretical Jesus haters who abuse Christians in their country. They are no different than their Muslim neighbors. The muslims are our enemy No more than Israel is. The Jewish culture is great. The Muslim culture is shit. Middle Eastern Muslims and Jews have the same backward, tribal, eye for an eye culture that was rejected by Jesus Christ. I think we should get the Muslims out of America and maybe the earth. You want the Muslims out of the US and off the Earth then by all means take up a weapon and do it. Fibr Dog  posted on  2012-09-12   10:28:11 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #23. To: Fibr Dog (#3) Tell that to the families of the murdered sailors on the USS Liberty. That was just a terrible accident. Anyone who thinks the Jews attacked America on purpose are stupid. It wouldn't have happened if we were operating in our sphere of influence. Like following the Monroe doctrine and non interventionist policy like all the Jew haters say they want when it comes to Israel. Here are the facts. There was a war going on. We were over there off their coast. We got mistaken. It sucks but it happens. A K A Stone  posted on  2012-09-12   12:46:59 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #42. To: A K A Stone, Fibr Dog (#23) That was just a terrible accident. Anyone who thinks the Jews attacked America on purpose are stupid. REALLY... Fifteen years after the attack, an Israeli pilot approached Liberty survivors and then held extensive interviews with former Congressman Paul N. (Pete) McCloskey about his role. According to this senior Israeli lead pilot, he recognized the Liberty as American immediately, so informed his headquarters, and was told to ignore the American flag and continue his attack. He refused to do so and returned to base, where he was arrested. Later, a dual-citizen Israeli major told survivors that he was in an Israeli war room where he heard that pilot's radio report. The attacking pilots and everyone in the Israeli war room knew that they were attacking an American ship, the major said. He recanted the statement only after he received threatening phone calls from Israel. The pilot's protests also were heard by radio monitors in the U.S. Embassy in Lebanon. Then-U.S. Ambassador to Lebanon Dwight Porter has confirmed this. Porter told his story to syndicated columnists Rowland Evans and Robert Novak and offered to submit to further questioning by authorities. Unfortunately, no one in the U.S. government has any interest in hearing these first-person accounts of Israeli treachery. Said Retired Adm. Thomas Moorer: "The Israelis maintain this was simply a case of mistaken identity, but this clearly does not hold water," said Moorer, who was chief of naval operations at the time of the attack. "In clear visibility, this unique ship was very easy to identify. "The Israeli forces circled the ship and then proceeded to attack over an extended period of time. There is Simply no way the fighter pilots and torpedo boat crews could have come to such a conclusion," he said. Other pertinent facts: * The radio jamming is by itself damning evidence that the assailants knew exactly whom they were attacking. Such jamming requires intimate advance knowledge of the target being jammed, obtained by extended monitoring of its signals. And this was selective jamming; it struck Liberty's frequencies and no others. Afterward, in one of their ever changing explanations, the Israelis claimed to have learned the ship's identity when they heard its distress signals. But the attack continued for sixty six minutes after the first distress signal, which the Israelis had jammed, was sent. Had this particular Israeli claim been true, they would have recalled the torpedo boats before they even reached the ship. * The Israelis claimed that the ship's U.S. flag hung limp because there was no wind. Later, when presented with the fact that the flag had been perfectly visible, they claimed that they thought that the ship was an enemy vessel flying false colors. The extended radio monitoring, exposing considerable advance investigation of Liberty's communication facilities, refutes this claim. * The Israelis claimed that the torpedo boats, after first sighting the ship, had called in the aircraft to attack after the ship refused to identify itself. This is an obvious lie, because the attack was clearly a preplanned and well coordinated onetwo punch employing different branches of the Israeli Defense Forces. The jets were already intent on attacking the ship before the Liberty came into the torpedo boats' radar range. Directly contradicting themselves, the Israelis later claimed that their aircraft had called in the torpedo boats. Immediately preceding the attack, an Israeli pilot recognized Liberty as a U.S. ship and radioed this information to IDF headquarters. He was instructed to attack anyway. This dialogue was intercepted at the U.S. embassy in Beirut. Former U.S. Ambassador to Lebanon Dwight Porter revealed the existence of this intercept in 1991. From here: Following the attack, a U.S. Navy Board of Inquiry into the incident convened. Though the amount of evidence was immense and there were several dozen interviews to conduct, the Court of Inquiry was given only a week to complete their work. The Court was not even allowed to consider sworn declarations from more than 60 still-hospitalized Liberty sailors. Chief Legal Counsel to the Board of Inquiry Capt. Ward Boston and president of the Court Adm. Isaac C. Kidd felt it necessary to travel to Israel and interview those who had taken part in the attack. They were rebuffed in that effort by Adm. John S. McCain Jr., then serving as Commander-in-Chief, Naval Forces Europe. Adm. McCain would not allow the two any contact with the Israelis. In a sworn affidavit, Capt. Ward Boston (ret.) made the following statements concurring with the cover-up of the USS Liberty attack: “I know from personal conversations I had with Admiral Kidd that President Lyndon Johnson and Secretary of Defense Robert McNamara ordered him to conclude that the attack was a case of ‘mistaken identity’ despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary. Admiral Kidd told me, after returning from Washington D.C. that he had been ordered to sit down with two civilians from either the White House or the Defense Department, and rewrite portions of the court’s findings. Admiral Kidd also told me that he had been ordered to ‘put the lid’ on everything having to do with the attack on USS Liberty. We were never to speak of it and we were to caution everyone else involved that they could never speak of it again. .... In 1982, an Israeli pilot who took part in the attack, Evan Toni, spoke extensively with Rep. Paul McCloskey (R-CA). He told McCloskey that his superiors told him to ignore the markings and U.S. flag. Toni claimed that he and another pilot radioed base and clearly identified the ship as American. Both refused and were immediately arrested upon returning to base. Former U.S. Ambassador to Lebanon, Dwight Porter, confirmed the pilot’s account. Porter told columnist Robert Novak that he heard the exchange as radio transmissions were being monitored from the embassy. And so, stone, do you still believe the bullshit that's been spoon-fed to you? It wouldn't have happened if we were operating in our sphere of influence. Like following the Monroe doctrine and non interventionist policy like all the Jew haters say they want when it comes to Israel. Here are the facts. There was a war going on. We were over there off their coast. We got mistaken. It sucks but it happens. As usual, talking shit about things you know NOTHING about. You should be embarrassed. But you're not, of course. Your religious fervor makes you arrogant, stupid and blind. ALL of the comments by Fibr Dog are spot-on. YOU are the one who is mistaken... in a great many things. Capitalist Eric  posted on  2012-09-12   13:47:59 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #43. To: Capitalist Eric (#42) I worked for the army equivalent of these sailors at that time and it's a known fact the isreali air force knew exactly who they were attacking. calcon  posted on  2012-09-12   14:01:12 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   Replies to Comment # 43.         There are no replies to Comment # 43. End Trace Mode for Comment # 43. Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest

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