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Source: LP URL Source: http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/ ... rt.cgi?ArtNum=325540&Disp=8#C8 Published: Sep 12, 2012 Author: me Post Date: 2012-09-12 08:43:46 by Fibr Dog Keywords: None Views: 117477 Comments: 201 #8. To: Goldi-Lox (#3) and will do NOTHING to help them That would be the only smart thing he's done his entire administration. If you want to help them so damned bad then get of your fat, America-hating ass and head on over there. Israel must stop waiting, and ACT. They are a sovereign country. No one is stopping them. What you, Net-and-yahoo, and the rest of your America-hating buddies want is for the US to spend its money and American lives and do it for you while you sit around eating Bon-bons. Israel and you Israeli-firsters are like American welfare recipients. You think everyone owes you something. We don't owe you or Israel squat. Israel is just one of many Middle Eastern s**t holes that isn't worth one American life. And do it NOW before they are nuked! bwhahahahaha. Your stupidity and gullibility knows no bounds. Fibr Dog posted on 2012-09-12 8:35:43 ET Reply Trace Post Comment   Private Reply   Ignore Thread   Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest Begin Trace Mode for Comment # 34. #1. To: Fibr Dog (#0) Isreal is our friend. They are kind of like us. The muslims are our enemy. They are nothing like us. The Jewish culture is great. The muslim culture is shit. I think we should get the Muslims out of America and maybe the earth. The retreat to fortress America. Tell the world to F off. Tear down the UN. A K A Stone  posted on  2012-09-12   9:19:15 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #3. To: A K A Stone (#1) Isreal is our friend. Tell that to the families of the murdered sailors on the USS Liberty. They are kind of like us. They are heretical Jesus haters who abuse Christians in their country. They are no different than their Muslim neighbors. The muslims are our enemy No more than Israel is. The Jewish culture is great. The Muslim culture is shit. Middle Eastern Muslims and Jews have the same backward, tribal, eye for an eye culture that was rejected by Jesus Christ. I think we should get the Muslims out of America and maybe the earth. You want the Muslims out of the US and off the Earth then by all means take up a weapon and do it. Fibr Dog  posted on  2012-09-12   10:28:11 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #23. To: Fibr Dog (#3) Tell that to the families of the murdered sailors on the USS Liberty. That was just a terrible accident. Anyone who thinks the Jews attacked America on purpose are stupid. It wouldn't have happened if we were operating in our sphere of influence. Like following the Monroe doctrine and non interventionist policy like all the Jew haters say they want when it comes to Israel. Here are the facts. There was a war going on. We were over there off their coast. We got mistaken. It sucks but it happens. A K A Stone  posted on  2012-09-12   12:46:59 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #34. To: A K A Stone (#23) (Edited) That was just a terrible accident. Anyone who thinks the Jews attacked America on purpose are stupid. Then I guess the entire surviving crew of thew USS Liberty is stupid. I guess that Captain Ward Boston, the chief counsel to the Navy's Board of Inquiry into the incident is stupid. I guess the former Chief of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, Admiral Thomas Moorer, Medal of Honor recipient General Raymond G. Davis, Former Assistant Commandant of The Marine Corps, Rear Admiral Merlin Staring, Former Judge Advocate General Of The Navy, and Ambassador James Akins, Former United States Ambassador to Saudi Arabia are all stupid as well. I guess Lieutenant Commander David E. Lewis, the USS Liberty's chief intelligence officer, was lying when he "stated under oath that In a conversation with Admiral Lawrence R. Geis, the Sixth Fleet carrier division commander, who visited Lewis after he had been medically evacuated by helicopter to the aircraft carrier USS America. According to Lewis, "He (Admiral Geis) said that he wanted somebody to know that we weren't forgotten" attempts HAD been made to come to our assistance. He said that he had launched a flight of aircraft to come to our assistance, and he had then called Washington. Secretary McNamara came on the line and ordered the recall of the aircraft, which he did. Concurrently he said that since he suspected that they were afraid that there might have been nuclear weapons on board, he reconfigured another flight of aircraft - strictly conventional weaponry - and re-launched it. After the second launch, he again called Washington to let them know what was going on. Again, Secretary McNamara ordered the aircraft recalled. Not understanding why, he requested confirmation of the order; and the next higher in command came on to confirm that "President Johnson...with the instructions that the aircraft were to be returned, that he would not have his allies embarrassed, he didn't care who was killed or what was done to the ship "words" to that effect. With that, Admiral Geis swore me to secrecy for his lifetime. I had been silent up until I found out from Admiral Moorer that Admiral Geis had passed away" [transcript from NBC's Liberty Story, aired on national television 1/27/92]. This statement by Commander Lewis has recently been corroborated by Tony Hart, a Navy communications technician stationed at the U.S. Navy Base in Morocco in June, 1967. Mr. Hart connected the telephone conversation between Secretary McNamara and Admiral Geis and stayed on the line to keep them connected. Hart has been recorded as saying that he overheard Admiral Geis refusing McNamara's order to recall the Sixth Fleet rescue aircraft while the ship was under attack. Mr. Hart reported that McNamara responded, "we are not going to war over a bunch of dead sailors." I guess the intercepted radio communications between attacking Israeli pilots and the Israeli War Room, recorded by a U.S. Navy EC-121 spy plane, in which the Israeli pilots report seeing Liberty's American flag flying is all just made up bullshit. I will give you the benefit of the doubt that you have never bothered to investigate the issue and are making your decision based on preconceived notions. The dead of the USS Liberty deserve better from someone claiming to be a patriot. Fibr Dog  posted on  2012-09-12   13:12:35 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   Replies to Comment # 34. #46. To: Fibr Dog (#34) Excellent summary. For a long while, I was one who never questioned the MSM regarding Israel, and IIRC, it was Alex Jones who mentioned USS Liberty, and that started my digging... about five years ago. Learning what I did, I realized that Israel is NOT our "friend," never was, never will be... They're perfectly happy to manipulate things so that they never get their hands dirty, never get held responsible for the results of their own actions. They're users, pure and simple. This, BTW, is exactly why the Israelis attacked the Liberty, jammed the communications and tried to sink her with a torpedo. Israel attacked the USS Liberty using UNMARKED AIRCRAFT. This is the single fact which proves Israel knew exactly who they were attacking. Israel's story is that they thought USS Liberty was an Egyptian ship and therefore a legitimate target of war. Were that true, there would be no reason to attack a supposedly Egyptian ship with unmarked aircraft. The only possible reason to use unmarked aircraft to attack the ship is that Israel knew it was an American ship and intended to sink it, then to blame the attack on Egypt. Bottom line, the Israelis wanted the USA to come to their aid. They wanted (and tried hard) to sink one of our ships before it could call for assistance, and then blame it on Egypt. The only problem was, the ship didn't sink according to their plans, and the excuses and coverups were required. Otherwise, we would have to acknowledge that a supposed "friend" conducted an ACT OF WAR on us, and we'd have to kick their sorry asses... I will give you the benefit of the doubt that you have never bothered to investigate the issue and are making your decision based on preconceived notions. I will not give him any such benefit. He pushes the Israel-first agenda, and pushes a bunch of lies, to further that agenda. He claims intimate knowledge of many things, yet his words demonstrate that he's merely another useless idiot. He doesn't deserve the respect conferred by giving him "the benefit of the doubt," IMO. Instead, he deserves contempt for his willful ignorance. For this, there can be no excuse. The dead of the USS Liberty deserve better from someone claiming to be a patriot. Agreed. But stone is no more an American patriot, than Israel is America's friend. Capitalist Eric  posted on  2012-09-12 14:12:50 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   End Trace Mode for Comment # 34. Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest

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