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Title: The RNC shouldn’t honor Ron Paul at the convention
Source: nro
URL Source: http://www.nationalreview.com/artic ... 15101/problem-paul-jamie-m-fly
Published: Aug 29, 2012
Author: Jamie M. Fly & Evan Moore
Post Date: 2012-08-29 10:05:09 by calcon
Keywords: None
Views: 16242
Comments: 44

With the cancellation of the first night of the Republican convention in Tampa, organizers scrambled to adjust the schedule and find space across the remaining three nights for events originally slated for Monday. Unfortunately, it appears that convention planners missed an opportunity to reverse the ridiculous and regrettable decision made by the Romney campaign to feature a video tribute to retiring congressman Ron Paul, who has not even endorsed Governor Romney.

Paul did win as many as 175 delegates, and his acolytes are already trumpeting their supposed success in influencing the platform that will be unveiled in Tampa. Romney’s political advisers are of course more concerned with getting their candidate into the White House than with making waves with Paul and his often vocal supporters. Concessions have already been made to them on extraneous issues during the drafting of the platform. A speaking slot has been given to the congressman’s son, Senator Rand Paul, which he apparently plans to use to attack defense spending. But paying tribute to Representative Paul is a step too far.

Instead of honoring Paul on the way out, the delegates in Tampa should be cheering his departure. He has left a legacy of extremism and falsehoods that need to be driven from the party, not embraced by it.

Advertisement It’s important to remember how far outside the mainstream Paul and many of his supporters are. His libertarian views on domestic and economic policy are said to appeal to many, especially young conservatives. We’re told that we should just ignore his extreme views on foreign policy in the interest of harnessing this energy for the greater good of the conservative movement. But to do that is to ignore how central his foreign-policy views are to what he represents.

This was on display as recently as August 1, when Congress overwhelmingly approved new sanctions against the Islamic Republic of Iran. In the House of Representatives, the vote was 421–6 in favor. Paul, four other Republicans, and Dennis Kucinich (D., Ohio) voted against the measure.

In his floor remarks, the congressman echoed the worst rhetoric of the conspiracy-minded by saying that the bill was “beating the war drums once again” and that the United States was “over there poking our nose . . . in other people’s affairs, just looking for the chance to start another war.”

Americans are free to take extreme positions on foreign as well as domestic policy. The problem with Paul and his ilk is that so much of their worldview is based on pure fiction. Characteristically, Paul’s remarks on the House floor regarding Iran’s nuclear program were exaggerated or simply wrong.

When Paul remarked that “the IAEA and CIA said they are not on the verge of a nuclear weapon,” that “they are permitted to have their nuclear programs under the Non-Proliferation Treaty,” and that “we continue to be . . . obsessed with Iran and the idea that Iran is a threat to our national security,” he paints a picture of a peaceful and benevolent Islamic Republic that has never actually existed.

Indeed, in November, the IAEA reported that it had “serious concerns regarding possible military dimensions to Iran’s nuclear programme” and that “Iran has carried out activities relevant to the development of a nuclear explosive device.” The Nonproliferation Treaty does not afford Iran — or any other country — a right to uranium enrichment. Paul’s apologia for the ayatollahs is as absurd as it is dangerous. It is wholly irresponsible for anyone who aspires to national leadership.

Paul has left a trail of similar factual errors and conspiracy-mongering on issues ranging from the defense budget to America’s position overseas, the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq, and even the origins of the attacks of September 11, 2001 — all themes he repeated during a speech to his supporters at the University of South Florida on Sunday as he boasted that “we will get in the tent because we will become the tent eventually.”

This is not the first time that conservatives have faced the problem of fringe elements’ attempting to manipulate the hearts and minds of the movement. In the 1960s, Paul’s equivalent was Robert Welch and the John Birch Society, eventually driven from the Republican party by the likes of William F. Buckley Jr. Paul to this day refuses to disassociate himself from the Birch Society and, like Welch and Pat Buchanan, he has a history of making questionable, racist and anti-Semitic comments (some of them later blamed on staff). Anyone who has ever criticized Paul online and had to deal with his legions of vitriolic and abusive followers has no doubt about what he has spawned.

Republicans are right to criticize Democrats, including our current president, for their unwillingness to chastise those on the far left who hold anti-American views that are not reflective of our history or values. We should do the same when such impostors emerge within our own party.


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#3. To: calcon (#0)

— Jamie M. Fly is executive director of, and Evan Moore a policy analyst for, the Foreign Policy Initiative.

The Foreign Policy Initiative (FPI) is a conservative, non-profit, tax-exempt organization... FPI’s Board of Directors consists of Eric Edelman, Robert Kagan, William Kristol, and Dan Senor.

It's the same tiny group of Jewish neo-cons who continue to bash Ron Paul because he wants to eliminate U.S. government handouts to every country, including Israel.

That's the bottom line.

The GOP needs to stop listening to these neo-con, war mongering, assholes.

jwpegler  posted on  2012-08-29   10:49:17 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: jwpegler (#3)

I was actually set to once again hold my nose and vote for Romney/Ryan. After yesterday the GOP can kiss my ass. I'm voting for Gary Johnson. To hell with the two party fraud, I've had enough of these back stabbing sob's to last a life time. They told grass roots Conservatives to take a hike yesterday, so since they have I'm obliging them and doing so.

SJN  posted on  2012-08-29   11:09:03 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: SJN (#4) (Edited)

I like Gary Johnson.

The bottom line for me is that Obama has to go. The guy was inspired by communists and he sat in a black liberation church for 20 years listening to the preacher bash whitey and damn America.

I can't let my anger at the idiot GOP distract from the fact that Obama is not a normal Democrat. He's a malicious radical who is purposefully trying to shove his perverted view of social justice down our throats.

Had Hitlery been elected in 2008, I'd probably be voting for Johnson this year as well. I can't do it with Obama in office. No way. He has to be removed at all costs.

jwpegler  posted on  2012-08-29   11:39:48 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: jwpegler (#7)

I actually do understand where you are coming from. But at this point for me I still see the choice as being one Fascist for another. And the GOP effectively told we grass roots Conservatives and Tea Party types that we are not needed nor wanted in their "big tent". I will oblige them by leaving.

SJN  posted on  2012-08-29   11:46:48 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: SJN (#8)

And the GOP effectively told we grass roots Conservatives and Tea Party types that we are not needed nor wanted in their "big tent". I will oblige them by leaving.

And I think this pretty much means that a 3rd Party will be formed one way or the other, now whether that will be a good thing or bad thing remains to be seen!!

CZ82  posted on  2012-08-29   12:36:23 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: CZ82 (#9)

And I think this pretty much means that a 3rd Party will be formed one way or the other...

There are a whole bunch of third parties - Constitution, Libertarian, 2 Green parties, multiple communist / socialist / Maoist / Trotsyite parties, etc..

They are all electoral failures.

Even a billionaire like Perot couldn't form a successful party. He tried, but the Reform Party soon degenerated into chaos and then broke apart into various splinter groups.

America's electoral college and single member Congressional districts are not conducive to more than two parties.

If you want to change things, you have to do it from within one of the two parties. It won't be easy, but we made tremendous progress in 2010. We need to sustain that momentum.

jwpegler  posted on  2012-08-29   14:07:29 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: jwpegler (#11)

If you want to change things, you have to do it from within one of the two parties. It won't be easy, but we made tremendous progress in 2010. We need to sustain that momentum.

If this is your plan for saving the USA, you are living in la la land!

What happened yesterday is just a foretaste of what is to come--rules.

Not only are rules made by the two existing parties, the federal government, of which one or the other control, or of which are in collusion with each other, also make rules that effectively keep them in power, although Perot showed that the 3rd parties can challenge, though the cost financially are very high and the time needed can be lengthy.

The rules are all made so that the 'elites' are kept in power over we peons.

Do you honestly believe there will ever be another time that the populace will approve of the presidential candidate, ie., Ronald Reagan? The elites will move heaven and hell to prevent such as that.

rowdee  posted on  2012-08-29   14:29:09 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: rowdee (#13)

If this is your plan for saving the USA, you are living in la la land!

Why don't you tell us your plan.

jwpegler  posted on  2012-08-29   14:31:42 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: jwpegler (#15)

First off, I've quit digging in the same old hole. No more expecting different results.

I've participated in the process by actually running for office on the state level; which mirrors how it goes at the federal level.

Holding their feet to the fire? LOL.......how funny can one get!

Play by the rules? Yes.....and you have just seen happens with that idea.

Why don't all the people who proclaim they are 1) holding their nose and voting for X just in order to get someone out of there, 2) work within the party to make the changes needed, or 3) other compromisers of principle get of their duffs and vote for someone who has remained truer to their principles and their party platform than all the ones who have brought on the disaster this country is in?

Novel idea, I'm sure.

I'm not lending my name or my vote to the destructive parties. I'm tired of the lesser of two evils. I'm tired of holding feet to fires that never even smell a bit smokey lt alone singe the crap stuck to politicians feet. I'm tired of lie after lie after lie. I'm tired of shifting here, or shifting there just to please people just so you get the job.

rowdee  posted on  2012-08-29   17:28:54 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: rowdee (#18)

It would have been easier to just say that you don't have any idea how to put the country back on track.

You are just pissing and moaning like every one else.

I thought so.

jwpegler  posted on  2012-08-29   17:39:37 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: jwpegler, Mad Dog (#20)

Plese continue to vote as you do. There may come a day when you, too, realize whoever you voted for really isn't the least bit concerned about the nation and her peons.

All this country needs is another northeasterner or a Texican to make it all 'better'......LOLOLOLOL! Yeah.......right! NOT.

Exactly how many times have you known of a president on the right side of the aisle (no need to discuss the left because it would never cross their minds) having had their feet held to the fire--and it made a difference? Oh hell, even if it didn't make a difference?

Furthermore, beyond the initial days of the Contract With America group of congresscritters, how many congressmen and right- wing presidents have given a damn about spending? About cutting government?

Now we hear the rumblings of getting a constitutional amendment requiring a balanced budget........and the need for a line item veto. Bullshit (excuse my french but this really pisses me off)........all they need is a little spine and some integrity and willpower to take care of that.

They are such cowards and spineless bastasrds (again, excuse my french) that they made a deal regarding the debt limit and cutting, and they're all busy trying to find ways to ignore this or cut deals to undo it.

So exactly where is all this holding feet to the fire business to come from?

Mad Dog, I ping you to this because I've broken a standard I discussed with you. You may now call me what you proclaimed a while back.

rowdee  posted on  2012-08-29   18:06:28 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#31. To: rowdee (#22)

Plese continue to vote as you do.

I understand that you know everything that is wrong.

What is your plan to fix it???

What is your solution?

Pissing and moaning is NOT a solution.

jwpegler  posted on  2012-08-30 19:35:40 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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