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Title: Romney / Ryan: Why do I Feel so Dirty?
Source: Dissenting Opinons
URL Source: http://jwpegler.blogspot.com/2012/0 ... an-why-do-i-feel-so-dirty.html
Published: Aug 13, 2012
Author: jwpegler
Post Date: 2012-08-13 17:59:34 by jwpegler
Keywords: None
Views: 34948
Comments: 88

Over the weekend, Mitt Romney announced that he selected Paul Ryan as his Vice Presidential running mate.

Just about every commentator on the left and right, has hailed this as a bold move.

The left believes Romney made a tragic mistake selecting someone so "radical". The right believes that Romney made the right decision selecting someone so dedicated to "fiscal responsibility".

Both sides are wrong.

Ryan's so-called visionary / radical budget plan won't balance the budget until 2040. We had a balanced budget in 2000, yet the left thinks it's "radical" and the right thinks it's "bold" to wait 28 years to get America's fiscal house in order.

More importantly, during the Bush administration, Ryan was just another big spending politician.

Paul Ryan voted for Medicare Part D (the first new entitlement program since LBJ), No Child Left Behind (the largest federal intrusion into the classroom in history), Bush's two Middle East Wars, and TARP to bail out the Wall Street con artists. To top it off, he helped torpedo Simpson-Bowles, which would have lowered the top personal tax rate to 23% and the top corporate tax rate to 25%.

Of course, Obama / Biden are much worse, with their failed "stimulus", ObamaCare, annual deficits of more than a trillion dollars forever, shutting down energy production in the U.S., crazy left-wing social engineering, and more big government crap being shoved down our throats than ever before.

I've voted in 8 Presidential elections. I voted for the GOP nominee 4 times and I've voted for third party / independent candidates 4 times.

Unfortunately, Obama / Biden are so bad that we really don't have a choice this year. I will be holding my nose while I cast my vote for the lessor of two evils once again.

But I just feel really dirty doing so.

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#6. To: jwpegler (#0)

I will be holding my nose while I cast my vote for the lessor of two evils once again.

I will not.

Until enough of us walk away, nothing will change.

We The People  posted on  2012-08-13   19:19:43 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: We The People (#6) (Edited)

Until enough of us walk away, nothing will change.

More than half of adults regularly don't vote. In some elections, 75% of adults don't vote.

VERY serious question: When will NOT voting actually change anything???

How does that work? Please tell us.

jwpegler  posted on  2012-08-13   20:11:48 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#67. To: jwpegler (#14)

VERY serious question: When will NOT voting actually change anything???

I'm not talking about not voting. I'm talking about putting my money where my mouth is, and voting for THE most conservative candidate in the race, whomever that may be. Just like I have done before and will do again.

And it works a hell of a lot better than voting for a freaking liberal. You chickenshit fake conservatives looking down on others who won't vote for your Massachusetts liberal make me laugh. How about you tell us how that works? Or...what does voting for liberals get you? Look around doofus.

I'm not voting for your Massachusetts metrosexual liberal.

I vote for conservatives. Deal with that however you need to.

We The People  posted on  2012-08-20   17:46:12 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#68. To: We The People (#67) (Edited)

chickenshit... fake... freaking liberal... metrosexual...

You didn't answer the question.

How is voting for Virgil Goode, Gary Johnson, writing in Ron Paul's name, or just not voting at all going to help get rid of Obama?

How???

Tell us.

jwpegler  posted on  2012-08-20   18:03:05 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#70. To: jwpegler (#68)

You didn't answer the question.

How is voting for Virgil Goode, Gary Johnson, writing in Ron Paul's name, or just not voting at all going to help get rid of Obama?

How???

Tell us.

You're asking me to explain your false premise. And I cannot, or more accurately, I will not.

I never said my priority was to get rid of Obama. My priority is to vote for conservatives, and that is what I do and have done.

Your priority is to get rid of Obama, and you will vote for another liberal, statist, big government clone of Obama to try to make that happen.

You're caught up in a shell game where there is no pea. You keep choosing and keep losing. Even if Romney wins, you still lose.

Shit son, you're running around like a chicken with its head cut off, not knowing what to do, acting completely on your fears, running down conservatives who vote for conservatives, when the logical solution to your problem is right in front of you.

Don't vote for liberals. A liberal with an R after his name, is still a liberal.

You don't support a liberal agenda? Then don't vote for liberals.

If you do vote for liberals, then stfu and get out of my face.

We The People  posted on  2012-08-20   19:42:57 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#75. To: We The People, capitalist eric, hondo68, sneakypete, sjn, A K A Stone (#70)

It's obvious that you don't have any solutions at all on how to fix the country other than this:

You'll stand on your tippie toes, close you eyes, click your heals together, and wish real hard that everyone will write in Ron Paul's name on the ballet.

Unfortunately for you, we don't live in OZ. We live in the real world where just wishing something will happen is equivalent to giving up.

You and your cohorts don't have any answers except to piss and moan.

Pissing and moaning won't do a damn thing to help.

jwpegler  posted on  2012-08-21   16:19:54 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#78. To: jwpegler (#75)

It's obvious that you don't have any solutions at all on how to fix the country other than this:

You'll stand on your tippie toes, close you eyes, click your heals together, and wish real hard that everyone will write in Ron Paul's name on the ballet.

Unfortunately for you, we don't live in OZ. We live in the real world where just wishing something will happen is equivalent to giving up.

You and your cohorts don't have any answers except to piss and moan.

Pissing and moaning won't do a damn thing to help.

How many times do I have to say, "VOTE FOR CONSERVATIVES"!?!???

That is the solution.

That's not standing on tippy toes and wishing for anything. That is standing by your convictions and actually walking the walk. Something which you obviously haven't learned to do yet.

Listen junior, you are the one advocating for voting for a Massachusetts liberal!

That's doing something that will help??????? LOL!

Hell no it isn't, and you know it.

So stomp your feet and hold your breath, but I'm still not voting for a liberal.

We The People  posted on  2012-08-21   18:40:01 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#81. To: We The People (#78) (Edited)

How many times do I have to say, "VOTE FOR CONSERVATIVES"!?!???

That is the solution.

I voted for Ron Paul this year (as well as in 1988). I did a lot more than just vote for him in both years. (I can elaborate if you'd like).

Right now, there are only two people on the ballot who could be President in 2013 -- Barack Obama and Mitt Romney.

This is called reality.

What are you going to do to get rid of Barack Obama?

What is your solution?

Remember math class in Jr. High? Solve for the problem -- how to get rid of Barack Obama.

What is your answer and how did you get to the answer?

jwpegler  posted on  2012-08-21   20:39:12 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#82. To: jwpegler (#81)

Remember math class in Jr. High? Solve for the problem -- how to get rid of Barack Obama.

No...the problem is that we have 2 people running for the highest office of the land that HATE the Constitution and the freedoms expoused in it. How you think voting for Romney, another GLOBALIST, that loves NDAA, the Patriot act, the TSA and drones spying on Americans, as the lessor of 2 evils, is indicative of your level of maturity. The USSR had elections...the people got to chose between a Communist and another Communist. The PTB COUNT on rubes like you. I WILL NOT vote for someone that LOATHES the documents this country was founded on...you need to go a pair, and stop begging folks to surrender their love of freedom, and the Constitution, which MILLIONS of people have died defending...something that as beyond your abilty to grasp.

freedomsnotfree  posted on  2012-08-22   9:13:27 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#83. To: freedomsnotfree (#82)

we have 2 people running for the highest office of the land that HATE the Constitution and the freedoms expoused in it

You are a kook. Just admit it.

jwpegler  posted on  2012-08-22   11:50:30 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#84. To: jwpegler, freedomsnotfree (#83)

freedomsnotfree: we have 2 people running for the highest office of the land that HATE the Constitution and the freedoms expoused in it

dummy: You are a kook. Just admit it.

Calling someone who refuses to vote for evil "a kook," yet calls those who expect the government to live within the limitations of the Constitution "cultists," makes YOU the "kook."

You have finally lost it. You've demonstrated an incapacity for critical thinking and logic, instead falling back to the rules of disinformation, personal attacks, hyperbole and logical fallacies to keep pushing a clearly flawed agenda.

You're not part of the solution, bubba... You're part of the problem.

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2012-08-22 13:30:57 ET  (1 image) Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#85. To: jwpegler (#83) (Edited)

and you're a statist shill that "believes" voting for a Constitutional hating, freedom robbing globalist is in the best interest of the country...and have the temerity to condemn those that actually won't follow your cowardly lead.

freedomsnotfree  posted on  2012-08-22 15:43:20 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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