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Title: Romney / Ryan: Why do I Feel so Dirty?
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URL Source: http://jwpegler.blogspot.com/2012/0 ... an-why-do-i-feel-so-dirty.html
Published: Aug 13, 2012
Author: jwpegler
Post Date: 2012-08-13 17:59:34 by jwpegler
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Comments: 88
Over the weekend, Mitt Romney announced that he selected Paul Ryan as his Vice Presidential running mate. Just about every commentator on the left and right, has hailed this as a bold move. The left believes Romney made a tragic mistake selecting someone so "radical". The right believes that Romney made the right decision selecting someone so dedicated to "fiscal responsibility". Both sides are wrong. Ryan's so-called visionary / radical budget plan won't balance the budget until 2040. We had a balanced budget in 2000, yet the left thinks it's "radical" and the right thinks it's "bold" to wait 28 years to get America's fiscal house in order. More importantly, during the Bush administration, Ryan was just another big spending politician. Paul Ryan voted for Medicare Part D (the first new entitlement program since LBJ), No Child Left Behind (the largest federal intrusion into the classroom in history), Bush's two Middle East Wars, and TARP to bail out the Wall Street con artists. To top it off, he helped torpedo Simpson-Bowles, which would have lowered the top personal tax rate to 23% and the top corporate tax rate to 25%. Of course, Obama / Biden are much worse, with their failed "stimulus", ObamaCare, annual deficits of more than a trillion dollars forever, shutting down energy production in the U.S., crazy left-wing social engineering, and more big government crap being shoved down our throats than ever before. I've voted in 8 Presidential elections. I voted for the GOP nominee 4 times and I've voted for third party / independent candidates 4 times. Unfortunately, Obama / Biden are so bad that we really don't have a choice this year. I will be holding my nose while I cast my vote for the lessor of two evils once again. But I just feel really dirty doing so.
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#48. To: CZ82 (#18)
No offense, but that's a hypothetical question that has no basis in the real world. As long as there is voting, some people will vote. As long as some people vote, NOT voting won't send any message because the system will keep pointing to the people who do vote as a confirmation of the system. It's the difference between the real world and theory. I live in the real world, where voting is seen as the ultimate expression of popular sovereignty. So, not voting doesn't mean anything -- it doesn't send any message and it will not change anything. I want to change something. Right now, I want to change the President. The ONLY way we can change the President is by voting for Romney.
100% correct. "All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing" -- Edmund Burke
jw: 100% correct. "All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing" -- Edmund Burke What crap. Claire Wolfe stated it best: But this totalitarian runaway truck is never going to stop unless we stop it, in any way we can. Stopping it might include any number of things: tax resistance; public civil disobedience; wide-scale, silent non-cooperation; highly noisy non-cooperation; boycotts; secession efforts; monkey wrenching; computer hacking; dirty tricks against government agents; public shunning of employees of abusive government agencies; alternative, self-sufficient communities that provide their own medical care and utilities. Your belief that by refusing to cooperate with the rigged game is doing "nothing." Your beliefs are demonstrably false, as I have shown time and again. Only when a man lacks moral courage, when he has surrendered his freedom and his integrity, will he allow himself to participate the illusion of freedom, rather than freedom itself. He'll mouth the appropriate platitudes, and thereafter attack those who have not yielded to their fears, cursing and condemning them, because they remind him of what he once was, and is no more... -CAPITALIST ERIC Keep mouthing those empty platitudes, to justify your lack of courage...
"Most people prefer to believe that their leaders are just and fair, even in the face of evidence to the contrary, because once a citizen acknowledges that the government under which he lives is lying and corrupt, the citizen has to choose what he or she will do about it. To take action in the face of corrupt government entails risks of harm to life and loved ones. To choose to do nothing is to surrender one's self-image of standing for principles. Most people do not have the courage to face that choice. Hence, most propaganda is not designed to fool the critical thinker but only to give moral cowards an excuse not to think at all." Michael Rivero
Here is a hypothetical for you: Let's suppose that most people who pay taxes stop voting. What would be the result? Only government employees and other recipients of government handouts will vote. I saw this when I grew up in Michigan. It's called a school tax levy in August, when most people are on vacation, but school teachers have nothing better to do than vote. As long as government employees and welfare recipients show up to vote, NOT voting will have a NEGATIVE IMPACT. You are living in a DREAM WORLD if you think that government bureaucrats are going to stop voting,
Pass. I'm not interested in "hypothetical" situations. I'm interested in reality and TRUTH, wherever they lay. Talk about data. Talk about FACT. Leave the "hypothetical" situations for undergrad communists who don't have anything between their ears...
"Most people prefer to believe that their leaders are just and fair, even in the face of evidence to the contrary, because once a citizen acknowledges that the government under which he lives is lying and corrupt, the citizen has to choose what he or she will do about it. To take action in the face of corrupt government entails risks of harm to life and loved ones. To choose to do nothing is to surrender one's self-image of standing for principles. Most people do not have the courage to face that choice. Hence, most propaganda is not designed to fool the critical thinker but only to give moral cowards an excuse not to think at all." Michael Rivero
Don't you think they keep close tabs on who actually comes out and votes.. I hear all the time about how one side or the other is having reduced voter turnout... Now if nobody voted GOP (lets say) and only half of the normal voters showed up don't you think that would send a message.. That only a few wants a handout but the rest want something better than what the GOP is offering... Now I realize you would have to do this selectively with the worst candidates and not whole hog but it "should" send a message... If it doesn't then I would have to say they are pretty phucking dense...
Choosing and voting for a presidential candidate is like picking which STD you want to suffer from….
The vote is the only thing we have. When that is gone, that's it.
Have you never heard of "apathy"? Thousands don't vote all across the nation. Has it made a difference?
Try millions.... Has it made a difference because of the ones who "DO" go and vote religiously??? Sure doesn't look like it to me, we're one or two presidents away from the spinning abyss of the toilet.. And it's because the ones who do vote have never sent them a message like "get better candidates"..... They just keep showing up in the same numbers and keep voting for the same bunch of never will be's and retreads... So what do you think the establishment thinks because of this?? THAT WE "WANT" MORE MODERATES AND RINOs!! which is just exactly the opposite of the truth.... That's the message the voters have sent and the establishment has heard it loud and clear, enjoy the abyss when it comes.... And you better have a good sized stash of Febreeze and vinyl gloves handy!! Because if it looks like a turd and smells like a turd and tastes like a turd it probably is a turd... But they can go ahead and try to pick it up by the clean end and say it's something else, like usual!!
Choosing and voting for a presidential candidate is like picking which STD you want to suffer from….
That makes no sense at all. There is no "they" who is going to pick some magical good candidate if we don't vote.
So what you're saying is that you voters "DON'T" think you can send a message to the establishment, do you?? Then why go vote?? Especially if you know it's for some POS?? What message is that sending other than "Here, come and get me I'm all bent over with my pants around my ankles"!!!
Choosing and voting for a presidential candidate is like picking which STD you want to suffer from….
The message you want has been being sent repeatedly for the last 40 plus years. It is the reason we are where we are. Because good people didn't vote. The establishemtn is never going to pick a good candidate. The good candidate will come from the grass roots. We had one pretty good candidate on the ballot this time. Ron Paul. Did you vote for him? Or do you think he is not good enough? Romney vs Obama is a no brainer.
You have no relationship with reality whatsoever.
No it wouldn't. Look at my earlier example of August elections in Michigan on school tax levies. The typical turnout would be 23% (less than half of normal November elections) and they always passed overwhelming. The low turnouts and lopsided victories for more taxes never send any message. All it did is give us more taxes. Half of Americans collect government checks today. Another Obama term and that will be up to 60% or more. At that point, we'll might as kiss America goodbye, because the people who collect money from the government vote.
Look what happened in 2010. We elected 80 new Congressmen for a net gain of 60 seats for the GOP. The current GOP House is the most conservative since before the Great Depression. It's an enormous change from the go along to get along days of Bob Michael and Dennis Hastert. The GOP also had a net gain of 680 new state Legislative seats. The GOP holds more seats in State Legislatures than they have since 1928. The Senate is still not there, but we finally have a core of great people in the Senate like Rand Paul, Jim DeMint, Mike Lee, and Tom Colburn. Yet, there are all of these numskulls who think that nothing has changed. It's unbelievable how stubborn people can be.
Let me ask you a question.... when was the last time you went to a GOP rally for one of their candidates?? What did you hear when you went there??? Did you hear the voters tell he/she they sucked ass or did you hear them cheering and applause!! What you heard is the message the voters are sending to the establishment!!
Choosing and voting for a presidential candidate is like picking which STD you want to suffer from….
The good candidate will come from the grass roots. Now how do you plan on getting a grass roots candidate nominated much less elected if the establishment has their delegates in place at the state level!!!
Choosing and voting for a presidential candidate is like picking which STD you want to suffer from….
So says the dummy who started this thread, with the revealing title "Romney / Ryan: Why do I Feel so Dirty?" You feel dirty because you know they're no better than o'Bungler/hair-plugs. You feel dirty because you're falling for the same false choice as always. You feel dirty because you're going to play the same bogus game, and you know it's insanity to do the same thing over and over, expecting different results. YOU FEEL DIRTY BECAUSE YOU'RE TOO MUCH OF A COWARD TO FACE REALITY: “The argument that the two parties should represent opposed ideals and policies, one, perhaps, of the Right and the other of the Left, is a foolish idea acceptable only to doctrinaire and academic thinkers. Instead, the two parties should be almost identical, so that the American people can ‘throw the rascals out’ at any election without leading to any profound or extensive shifts in policy.” - Professor Carroll Quigley, 1966 CHECK-MATE.
"Most people prefer to believe that their leaders are just and fair, even in the face of evidence to the contrary, because once a citizen acknowledges that the government under which he lives is lying and corrupt, the citizen has to choose what he or she will do about it. To take action in the face of corrupt government entails risks of harm to life and loved ones. To choose to do nothing is to surrender one's self-image of standing for principles. Most people do not have the courage to face that choice. Hence, most propaganda is not designed to fool the critical thinker but only to give moral cowards an excuse not to think at all." Michael Rivero
I'm not talking about not voting. I'm talking about putting my money where my mouth is, and voting for THE most conservative candidate in the race, whomever that may be. Just like I have done before and will do again. And it works a hell of a lot better than voting for a freaking liberal. You chickenshit fake conservatives looking down on others who won't vote for your Massachusetts liberal make me laugh. How about you tell us how that works? Or...what does voting for liberals get you? Look around doofus. I'm not voting for your Massachusetts metrosexual liberal. I vote for conservatives. Deal with that however you need to.
"If men through fear, fraud or mistake, should in terms renounce and give up any essential natural right, the eternal law of reason and the great end of society, would absolutely vacate such renunciation; the right to freedom being the gift of God Almighty, it is not in the power of Man to alienate this gift, and voluntarily become a slave." Samuel Adams, Rights of the Colonists, 1772
You didn't answer the question. How is voting for Virgil Goode, Gary Johnson, writing in Ron Paul's name, or just not voting at all going to help get rid of Obama? How??? Tell us.
He should feel really embarrassed and dumb for being suckered into the Lesser- of-two-evils con game.
How is voting for Virgil Goode, Gary Johnson, writing in Ron Paul's name, or just not voting at all going to help get rid of Obama? How??? Tell us. You're asking me to explain your false premise. And I cannot, or more accurately, I will not. I never said my priority was to get rid of Obama. My priority is to vote for conservatives, and that is what I do and have done. Your priority is to get rid of Obama, and you will vote for another liberal, statist, big government clone of Obama to try to make that happen. You're caught up in a shell game where there is no pea. You keep choosing and keep losing. Even if Romney wins, you still lose. Shit son, you're running around like a chicken with its head cut off, not knowing what to do, acting completely on your fears, running down conservatives who vote for conservatives, when the logical solution to your problem is right in front of you. Don't vote for liberals. A liberal with an R after his name, is still a liberal. You don't support a liberal agenda? Then don't vote for liberals. If you do vote for liberals, then stfu and get out of my face.
"If men through fear, fraud or mistake, should in terms renounce and give up any essential natural right, the eternal law of reason and the great end of society, would absolutely vacate such renunciation; the right to freedom being the gift of God Almighty, it is not in the power of Man to alienate this gift, and voluntarily become a slave." Samuel Adams, Rights of the Colonists, 1772
Is Mitt Romney liberal on say taxes?
So here’s a test: Are you a Republican politician who would desperately like to distance yourself from Akin? Answer these seven simple questions first. 1. You’ve said that Congressman Akin’s remarks offended you. Can you explain, in your own words, what about them offended you? Was it just that he was wrong about how conception works, or do you see more problems in his statement? Please be specific; vague references to “empathy” don’t count. 2. Congressman Akin used the phrase “legitimate rape.” If you haven’t addressed that in question No. 1, can you do so now? Is it a phrase that you would use, or countenance, or one that you would object to? Also, Akin co-sponsored legislation changing a statutory reference to “rape” to “forcible rape.” Is that a bill you voted for, or would? 3. Do you support access to abortion for victims of rape? Have you ever voted on or introduced legislation, or signed a pledge, addressing that point? Would you require any qualifications—for example, would there need to be a criminal conviction first? Do you support access to abortion for anyone besides rape victims? 4. How about emergency contraception, also known as the morning-after pill? A University of California Study estimated that, in 1998, twenty-five thousand women became pregnant as the result of rape, and that twenty-two thousand of those could potentially have been prevented with emergency contraception. Would you classify this as abortion? Should all women, whatever their circumstances, have access to the morning-after pill? And should health insurance cover non-emergency contraception? 5. Congressman Akin is an educated man. Do you think this incident shows that there are shortcomings in sex education and scientific literacy in America? Would you support increased sex education? And could organizations like Planned Parenthood have a role to play there? 6. You and your colleagues have called on Akin to withdraw from the Senate race against Claire McCaskill. Why? Do you think that he is unfit to serve, or do you just think that he will lose? 7. Can you talk about what you’ve done in your political career to help victims of sexual violence? Have you listened to those women’s—and men’s, and children’s—stories?
On the contrary, jwpegler is actually advocating the con! He wrote the article, and then defends the fraud. Insanity.
"Most people prefer to believe that their leaders are just and fair, even in the face of evidence to the contrary, because once a citizen acknowledges that the government under which he lives is lying and corrupt, the citizen has to choose what he or she will do about it. To take action in the face of corrupt government entails risks of harm to life and loved ones. To choose to do nothing is to surrender one's self-image of standing for principles. Most people do not have the courage to face that choice. Hence, most propaganda is not designed to fool the critical thinker but only to give moral cowards an excuse not to think at all." Michael Rivero
It's obvious that you don't have any solutions at all on how to fix the country other than this: You'll stand on your tippie toes, close you eyes, click your heals together, and wish real hard that everyone will write in Ron Paul's name on the ballet. Unfortunately for you, we don't live in OZ. We live in the real world where just wishing something will happen is equivalent to giving up. You and your cohorts don't have any answers except to piss and moan. Pissing and moaning won't do a damn thing to help.
Mitt and McCain both lost in '08, so we'll never know for sure how much worse off we'd be now if one of them had won, or if it'd be about the same as the Obama presidency. It seems likely that we would have already attacked Iran, but that's just a guess of course. GOP bots would be praising They both lost in '08, and Mitt fixin' to go down in history as a two time loser.
Obama's watch stopped on 24 May 2008, but he's been too busy smoking crack to notice.
Complaining is not a solution. I'm done with you, Whiny Eric, and stinkypete. There is no point, because you are all losers and morons.
You'll stand on your tippie toes, close you eyes, click your heals together, and wish real hard that everyone will write in Ron Paul's name on the ballet. Unfortunately for you, we don't live in OZ. We live in the real world where just wishing something will happen is equivalent to giving up. You and your cohorts don't have any answers except to piss and moan. Pissing and moaning won't do a damn thing to help. How many times do I have to say, "VOTE FOR CONSERVATIVES"!?!??? That is the solution. That's not standing on tippy toes and wishing for anything. That is standing by your convictions and actually walking the walk. Something which you obviously haven't learned to do yet. Listen junior, you are the one advocating for voting for a Massachusetts liberal! That's doing something that will help??????? LOL! Hell no it isn't, and you know it. So stomp your feet and hold your breath, but I'm still not voting for a liberal.
"If men through fear, fraud or mistake, should in terms renounce and give up any essential natural right, the eternal law of reason and the great end of society, would absolutely vacate such renunciation; the right to freedom being the gift of God Almighty, it is not in the power of Man to alienate this gift, and voluntarily become a slave." Samuel Adams, Rights of the Colonists, 1772
There is no point, because you are all losers and morons. ...says the man who is trying to get you to vote for a liberal.
"If men through fear, fraud or mistake, should in terms renounce and give up any essential natural right, the eternal law of reason and the great end of society, would absolutely vacate such renunciation; the right to freedom being the gift of God Almighty, it is not in the power of Man to alienate this gift, and voluntarily become a slave." Samuel Adams, Rights of the Colonists, 1772
Yeah,WE aren't going to vote for somebody we DO NOT want to see in office,so WE are the morons. Good call!
"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011 Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter.
That is the solution. I voted for Ron Paul this year (as well as in 1988). I did a lot more than just vote for him in both years. (I can elaborate if you'd like). Right now, there are only two people on the ballot who could be President in 2013 -- Barack Obama and Mitt Romney. This is called reality. What are you going to do to get rid of Barack Obama? What is your solution? Remember math class in Jr. High? Solve for the problem -- how to get rid of Barack Obama. What is your answer and how did you get to the answer?
No...the problem is that we have 2 people running for the highest office of the land that HATE the Constitution and the freedoms expoused in it. How you think voting for Romney, another GLOBALIST, that loves NDAA, the Patriot act, the TSA and drones spying on Americans, as the lessor of 2 evils, is indicative of your level of maturity. The USSR had elections...the people got to chose between a Communist and another Communist. The PTB COUNT on rubes like you. I WILL NOT vote for someone that LOATHES the documents this country was founded on...you need to go a pair, and stop begging folks to surrender their love of freedom, and the Constitution, which MILLIONS of people have died defending...something that as beyond your abilty to grasp.
You are a kook. Just admit it.
dummy: You are a kook. Just admit it. Calling someone who refuses to vote for evil "a kook," yet calls those who expect the government to live within the limitations of the Constitution "cultists," makes YOU the "kook." You have finally lost it. You've demonstrated an incapacity for critical thinking and logic, instead falling back to the rules of disinformation, personal attacks, hyperbole and logical fallacies to keep pushing a clearly flawed agenda. You're not part of the solution, bubba... You're part of the problem.
"Most people prefer to believe that their leaders are just and fair, even in the face of evidence to the contrary, because once a citizen acknowledges that the government under which he lives is lying and corrupt, the citizen has to choose what he or she will do about it. To take action in the face of corrupt government entails risks of harm to life and loved ones. To choose to do nothing is to surrender one's self-image of standing for principles. Most people do not have the courage to face that choice. Hence, most propaganda is not designed to fool the critical thinker but only to give moral cowards an excuse not to think at all." Michael Rivero
and you're a statist shill that "believes" voting for a Constitutional hating, freedom robbing globalist is in the best interest of the country...and have the temerity to condemn those that actually won't follow your cowardly lead.
...no, he IS the problem...I have more respect for someone that flat out says they're a Communist vs. this moron that "clames" to love the Constitution and votes exactly the opposite. And then, like the moral coward he is, he condems those with the courage of their convictions to stand by, and support, people that will uphold the Constitution and the rule of law. Hitler must have been talking about JW when he made this statement... "What luck for rulers that men do not think." Adolf Hitler German Nazi dictator, orator, & politician (1889 - 1945)
Very simple. It's always good to get rid of a candidate that was financed by the left.
And the sad thing is that you're a woman and that you're serious. you're serious that there's a Difference between Akin/GOP. you're serious that there is a left. you're serious that the left has the Wealth of the Top 400 and does what the Kleptocracy/Plutocracy has been doing since JFK's assassination and Nixon defaulting on gold. That a Hurricane and the GOP can come together in one spot can Only be God's Will....right Pat Robertson?.....BUWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA....8D
I guess the question is if "nobody" showed up at the booths to vote (
"we must as a species go into a period of shrinkage that we have not experienced since the Dark Ages and the Black Plague" -- lucysmom (A.K.A. minnigold)
#49. To: SJN (#30)
I disagree, all men with moral courage should be in the arena fighting for their cause. Sitting out with your so called "moral courage" is anathema to "moral courage". You're just putting the onerous on others to do the dirty work it takes, which is to engage in the fight.
"we must as a species go into a period of shrinkage that we have not experienced since the Dark Ages and the Black Plague" -- lucysmom (A.K.A. minnigold)
#50. To: jwpegler (#49)
SJN: I disagree, all men with moral courage should be in the arena fighting for their cause. Sitting out with your so called "moral courage" is anathema to "moral courage". You're just putting the onerous on others to do the dirty work it takes, which is to engage in the fight.
The only way we're going to get off this road to Hell is if we jump off. If we, personally, as individuals, refuse to cooperate with evil. How we do that is up to each of us. I can't decide for you, nor you for me. (Unlike congresspeople, who think they can decide for everybody.)
#51. To: Capitalist Eric (#50)
(Edited)
"we must as a species go into a period of shrinkage that we have not experienced since the Dark Ages and the Black Plague" -- lucysmom (A.K.A. minnigold)
#52. To: Capitalist Eric, CZ82, SJN, All (#50)
"we must as a species go into a period of shrinkage that we have not experienced since the Dark Ages and the Black Plague" -- lucysmom (A.K.A. minnigold)
#53. To: jwpegler (#52)
Here is a hypothetical for you:
#54. To: jwpegler (#48)
As long as some people vote, NOT voting won't send any message because the system will keep pointing to the people who do vote as a confirmation of the system.
#55. To: jwpegler (#48)
#56. To: CZ82 (#54)
#57. To: SJN (#56)
Have you never heard of "apathy"? Thousands don't vote all across the nation. Has it made a difference?
#58. To: CZ82 (#57)
Has it made a difference because of the ones who "DO" go and vote religiously??? Sure doesn't look like it to me, we're one or two presidents away from the spinning abyss of the toilet.. And it's because the ones who do vote have never sent them a message like "get better candidates"...
#59. To: A K A Stone (#58)
That makes no sense at all. There is no "they" who is going to pick some magical good candidate if we don't vote.
#60. To: CZ82 (#59)
So what you're saying is that you voters "DON'T" think you can send a message to the establishment, do you??
#61. To: Capitalist Eric (#53)
I'm interested in reality
"we must as a species go into a period of shrinkage that we have not experienced since the Dark Ages and the Black Plague" -- lucysmom (A.K.A. minnigold)
#62. To: CZ82 (#54)
Now if nobody voted GOP (lets say) and only half of the normal voters showed up don't you think that would send a message
"we must as a species go into a period of shrinkage that we have not experienced since the Dark Ages and the Black Plague" -- lucysmom (A.K.A. minnigold)
#63. To: A K A Stone (#60)
(Edited)
The good candidate will come from the grass roots.
"we must as a species go into a period of shrinkage that we have not experienced since the Dark Ages and the Black Plague" -- lucysmom (A.K.A. minnigold)
#64. To: A K A Stone (#60)
The message you want has been being sent repeatedly for the last 40 plus years. It is the reason we are where we are. Because good people didn't vote.
#65. To: A K A Stone (#60)
The establishemtn is never going to pick a good candidate.
#66. To: jwpegler (#61)
Capitalist Eric: I'm interested in reality
dummy: You have no relationship with reality whatsoever.
#67. To: jwpegler (#14)
VERY serious question: When will NOT voting actually change anything???
#68. To: We The People (#67)
(Edited)
chickenshit... fake... freaking liberal... metrosexual...
"we must as a species go into a period of shrinkage that we have not experienced since the Dark Ages and the Black Plague" -- lucysmom
#69. To: jwpegler (#0)
But I just feel really dirty doing so.
#70. To: jwpegler (#68)
You didn't answer the question.
#71. To: We The People (#70)
#72. To: A K A Stone, SJN, Any Women at LF, All (#71)
#73. To: Don (#69)
He should feel really embarrassed and dumb for being suckered into the Lesser- of-two-evils con game.
#74. To: We The Peoplem capitalist eric, hondo68, sneakypete, sjn, A K A Stone (#70)
(Edited)
"we must as a species go into a period of shrinkage that we have not experienced since the Dark Ages and the Black Plague" -- lucysmom
#75. To: We The People, capitalist eric, hondo68, sneakypete, sjn, A K A Stone (#70)
"we must as a species go into a period of shrinkage that we have not experienced since the Dark Ages and the Black Plague" -- lucysmom
#76. To: jwpegler (#75)
ObamaRomneyCare if Mitt had won, count on it. 
"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul
#77. To: hondo68 (#76)
"we must as a species go into a period of shrinkage that we have not experienced since the Dark Ages and the Black Plague" -- lucysmom
#78. To: jwpegler (#75)
It's obvious that you don't have any solutions at all on how to fix the country other than this:
#79. To: jwpegler, hondo68, Capitalist Eric, Sneakypete (#77)
I'm done with you, Whiny Eric, and stinkypete.
#80. To: jwpegler (#77)
There is no point, because you are all losers and morons.
#81. To: We The People (#78)
(Edited)
How many times do I have to say, "VOTE FOR CONSERVATIVES"!?!???
"we must as a species go into a period of shrinkage that we have not experienced since the Dark Ages and the Black Plague" -- lucysmom
#82. To: jwpegler (#81)
Remember math class in Jr. High? Solve for the problem -- how to get rid of Barack Obama.
#83. To: freedomsnotfree (#82)
we have 2 people running for the highest office of the land that HATE the Constitution and the freedoms expoused in it
"we must as a species go into a period of shrinkage that we have not experienced since the Dark Ages and the Black Plague" -- lucysmom
#84. To: jwpegler, freedomsnotfree (#83)
freedomsnotfree: we have 2 people running for the highest office of the land that HATE the Constitution and the freedoms expoused in it
#85. To: jwpegler (#83)
(Edited)
#86. To: Capitalist Eric, jwpegler (#84)
#87. To: mcgowanjm (#72)
#88. To: SJN (#87)
Very simple. It's always good to get rid of a candidate that was financed by the left.
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