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Title: Romney / Ryan: Why do I Feel so Dirty?
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URL Source: http://jwpegler.blogspot.com/2012/0 ... an-why-do-i-feel-so-dirty.html
Published: Aug 13, 2012
Author: jwpegler
Post Date: 2012-08-13 17:59:34 by jwpegler
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Views: 36129
Comments: 88
Over the weekend, Mitt Romney announced that he selected Paul Ryan as his Vice Presidential running mate. Just about every commentator on the left and right, has hailed this as a bold move. The left believes Romney made a tragic mistake selecting someone so "radical". The right believes that Romney made the right decision selecting someone so dedicated to "fiscal responsibility". Both sides are wrong. Ryan's so-called visionary / radical budget plan won't balance the budget until 2040. We had a balanced budget in 2000, yet the left thinks it's "radical" and the right thinks it's "bold" to wait 28 years to get America's fiscal house in order. More importantly, during the Bush administration, Ryan was just another big spending politician. Paul Ryan voted for Medicare Part D (the first new entitlement program since LBJ), No Child Left Behind (the largest federal intrusion into the classroom in history), Bush's two Middle East Wars, and TARP to bail out the Wall Street con artists. To top it off, he helped torpedo Simpson-Bowles, which would have lowered the top personal tax rate to 23% and the top corporate tax rate to 25%. Of course, Obama / Biden are much worse, with their failed "stimulus", ObamaCare, annual deficits of more than a trillion dollars forever, shutting down energy production in the U.S., crazy left-wing social engineering, and more big government crap being shoved down our throats than ever before. I've voted in 8 Presidential elections. I voted for the GOP nominee 4 times and I've voted for third party / independent candidates 4 times. Unfortunately, Obama / Biden are so bad that we really don't have a choice this year. I will be holding my nose while I cast my vote for the lessor of two evils once again. But I just feel really dirty doing so.
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#1. To: jwpegler (#0)
Most likely your state is going Obama anyway, might as well vote for someone decent.
Washington is almost certainly going to elect a Republican governor (Rob McKenna) this year, for the first time in 32 years. Rob is a good guy and I am wholeheartedly supporting him. Washington is very fiscally conservative and very socially tolerant. Reagan won Washington in 1980 and 1984. Neither Romney or Ryan are known as extreme social conservatives. Given the lousy economy, it's still improbable, but not impossible to think that a strong national GOP tide could sweep Washington this year. So, I will have to hold my nose and vote for Romney / Ryan. There is no other choice.
SURE there is. You're just too much of a coward to admit that. And THAT is why you feel "dirty."
If it is all the same anyway and wont make any difference. Then why not vote Romney if for no other reason then to hurt Obamas ego. And to send the message that there are one term presidents. Obama can't be influenced by public opinion. Romney can be pushed. His finger is in the wind. If pressure is kept up. Romney can be pushed in your direction. If people who think like you are numerous enough.
Hmm. Interesting take. The simple answer for me, though, is really simple: voting for "the lesser of two evils" gives tacit *approval* of evil. To that, I REFUSE. And so should ALL men with moral courage.
I disagree, all men with moral courage should be in the arena fighting for their cause. Sitting out with your so called "moral courage" is anathema to "moral courage". You're just putting the onerous on others to do the dirty work it takes, which is to engage in the fight.
You contradict yourself. In my case, I am fighting for my cause. I will NOT, however, fight or in any way support those that are in opposition to my cause- which is exactly what you preach. You've no idea what moral courage is, as your contradiction in the first sentence aptly demonstrates. You're merely another sheeple, following along with the latest iteration of group-think. "Men, it has been well said, think in herds; it will be seen that they go mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, and one by one." What fight is THAT? With WHO? Who are the ENEMIES? Who are the PATRIOTS? Where are the "candidates" that aren't merely deemed "electable," but have HONOR and INTEGRITY, and stand by their WORD??? SHOW me such men (and women), and than you'll have a point. Until then....? Well, keep chewing your cud.
Oh, and worse than that, you attempt to sway others to do nothing as well, all the while putting forth that to do nothing is "moral courage"!
Oh, and worse than that, you attempt to sway others to do nothing as well, all the while putting forth that to do nothing is "moral courage"! What fight is THAT? With WHO? Who are the ENEMIES? Who are the PATRIOTS? Where are the "candidates" that aren't merely deemed "electable," but have HONOR and INTEGRITY, and stand by their WORD???
Well let me know how your refusal to vote works out for all USA patriots concerned with the status quo. And when you find a viable alternative such as mass resistance, let me know how that goes as well. If you have a true alternative to correcting the state of tyranny we are now in I would be only to happy to join if it can be shown that this resistance will alter that status quo. In the mean time it might behoove you to fill your rank and file more effectively if you engage in meaningful dialog rather than bloviating ad hominum.
#42. To: SJN (#41)
FIXED. Now, let's get back to your statement, and my questions to you: You said: You're just putting the onerous on others to do the dirty work it takes, which is to engage in the fight. MY RESPONSE IS THE FOLLOWING SERIES OF QUESTIONS: What fight is THAT? With WHO? Who are the ENEMIES? Who are the PATRIOTS? Where are the "candidates" that aren't merely deemed "electable," but have HONOR and INTEGRITY, and stand by their WORD??? Now, what are your answers? You profess to know how to "engage in the fight." Answer the questions, or admit that it is YOU who is "bloviating ad hominum." [sic] In other words, PUT UP OR SHUT UP, bimbo.
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#3. To: hondo68 (#1)
Most likely your state is going Obama anyway, might as well vote for someone decent.
#5. To: jwpegler (#3)
There is no other choice.
#23. To: Capitalist Eric (#5)
#29. To: A K A Stone (#23)
f it is all the same anyway and wont make any difference. Then why not vote Romney if for no other reason then to hurt Obamas ego. And to send the message that there are one term presidents.
#30. To: Capitalist Eric (#29)
To that, I REFUSE. And so should ALL men with moral courage.
#31. To: SJN (#30)
I disagree, all men with moral courage should be in the arena fighting for their cause.
Sitting out with your so called "moral courage" is anathema to "moral courage".
-Charles Mackay, Extraordinary Popular Delusions and the Madness of Crowds You're just putting the onerous on others to do the dirty work it takes, which is to engage in the fight.
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#33. To: Capitalist Eric (#31)
#40. To: SJN (#33)
You're just putting the onerous on others to do the dirty work it takes, which is to engage in the fight.
#41. To: Capitalist Eric (#40)
Replies to Comment # 41. Well let me know how your refusal
to vote works to participate in a FRAUD...
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