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Title: Romney / Ryan: Why do I Feel so Dirty?
Source: Dissenting Opinons
URL Source: http://jwpegler.blogspot.com/2012/0 ... an-why-do-i-feel-so-dirty.html
Published: Aug 13, 2012
Author: jwpegler
Post Date: 2012-08-13 17:59:34 by jwpegler
Keywords: None
Views: 37872
Comments: 88

Over the weekend, Mitt Romney announced that he selected Paul Ryan as his Vice Presidential running mate.

Just about every commentator on the left and right, has hailed this as a bold move.

The left believes Romney made a tragic mistake selecting someone so "radical". The right believes that Romney made the right decision selecting someone so dedicated to "fiscal responsibility".

Both sides are wrong.

Ryan's so-called visionary / radical budget plan won't balance the budget until 2040. We had a balanced budget in 2000, yet the left thinks it's "radical" and the right thinks it's "bold" to wait 28 years to get America's fiscal house in order.

More importantly, during the Bush administration, Ryan was just another big spending politician.

Paul Ryan voted for Medicare Part D (the first new entitlement program since LBJ), No Child Left Behind (the largest federal intrusion into the classroom in history), Bush's two Middle East Wars, and TARP to bail out the Wall Street con artists. To top it off, he helped torpedo Simpson-Bowles, which would have lowered the top personal tax rate to 23% and the top corporate tax rate to 25%.

Of course, Obama / Biden are much worse, with their failed "stimulus", ObamaCare, annual deficits of more than a trillion dollars forever, shutting down energy production in the U.S., crazy left-wing social engineering, and more big government crap being shoved down our throats than ever before.

I've voted in 8 Presidential elections. I voted for the GOP nominee 4 times and I've voted for third party / independent candidates 4 times.

Unfortunately, Obama / Biden are so bad that we really don't have a choice this year. I will be holding my nose while I cast my vote for the lessor of two evils once again.

But I just feel really dirty doing so.

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#6. To: jwpegler (#0)

I will be holding my nose while I cast my vote for the lessor of two evils once again.

I will not.

Until enough of us walk away, nothing will change.

We The People  posted on  2012-08-13   19:19:43 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: We The People (#6) (Edited)

Until enough of us walk away, nothing will change.

More than half of adults regularly don't vote. In some elections, 75% of adults don't vote.

VERY serious question: When will NOT voting actually change anything???

How does that work? Please tell us.

jwpegler  posted on  2012-08-13   20:11:48 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: jwpegler (#14)

VERY serious question: When will NOT voting actually change anything???

How does that work? Please tell us.

I guess the question is if "nobody" showed up at the booths to vote (say GOP for instance) do you think the GOP would get the hint and start recruiting better candidates??? Or would they just go off and slash their wrists?? :-)...

CZ82  posted on  2012-08-13   21:03:41 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: CZ82 (#18)

I guess the question is if "nobody" showed up at the booths to vote (say GOP for instance) do you think the GOP would get the hint and start recruiting better candidates???

Just a second. If you don't even vote in the primaries. How are you say going to get a better candidate?

Do you sit around and wait for others in the primary to pick someone good? Then start voting?

Seems to me we are going to have to get more people voting in the primaries to achieve those better candidates.

But we are beyond that point now. Now it is Romney or Obama. Speaking totally logically and no emotion. One of them will be the next President. It will affect us all, our kids, our grand kids. We can sit on the sidelines or try to get rid of Obama.

So everyone go get registered to vote. Just in case you change your mind on election day.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-08-13   23:59:45 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: A K A Stone (#24)

Just a second. If you don't even vote in the primaries. How are you say going to get a better candidate?

Don't you think they know what turnout should be on the average voting day... Now if all of a sudden voting dropped off 90% or so don't you think that would send them a message...

Now do you get a questionaire before voting time wanting to know your opinion and asking for a campaign contribution??? If so what if you filled it out telling them exactly how you feel about them being a POS and told them to take a hike on a contribution (which is what I do)... What if everybody started doing that, do you think they would get the hint then??

Ideally this should have been done a long time ago before things got this bad, but oh well what can you say the average voter is a drip... They aren't engaged until the other side does something so totally phucked up (ObozoCare) then all of a sudden wake up and say we don't want that... Statistics show that politicians are usually about 10 years behind what the voters are thinking. Is that because the politicians are dense?? ... or is it because the voters won't get engaged and send their Party nastgrams explaining to them how they suck and what kind of candidate they want to vote for...

CZ82  posted on  2012-08-14   7:05:51 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: CZ82 (#25)

What if everybody started doing that, do you think they would get the hint then??

Who is they? I don't think "they" would get the hint. Because "they" already have their opinions and beliefs and aren't going to suddenly start championing someone they disagree with. No "we" have to vote for someone who thinks like us. They will never think like us. We have to outnumber and overwhelm them.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-08-14   8:09:59 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#35. To: A K A Stone (#27)

Now do you get a questionaire before voting time wanting to know your opinion and asking for a campaign contribution??? If so what if you filled it out telling them exactly how you feel about them being a POS and told them to take a hike on a contribution (which is what I do)... What if everybody started doing that, do you think they would get the hint then??

What Party do you vote for??? That is "THEY"...

If you don't say anything and then vote for them, they think you like the BS they are shoveling... And isn't that what's happening now, they keep right on running the same Pieces Of Schitt because they think the voters like them.... And isn't that what's taking the country down the tubes right now, nobody saying to them in a united voice "YOU GUYS SUCK ASS, IT'S TIME YOU LEFT TOWN"!!!!!!

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