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Title: Romney / Ryan: Why do I Feel so Dirty?
Source: Dissenting Opinons
URL Source: http://jwpegler.blogspot.com/2012/0 ... an-why-do-i-feel-so-dirty.html
Published: Aug 13, 2012
Author: jwpegler
Post Date: 2012-08-13 17:59:34 by jwpegler
Keywords: None
Views: 37893
Comments: 88

Over the weekend, Mitt Romney announced that he selected Paul Ryan as his Vice Presidential running mate.

Just about every commentator on the left and right, has hailed this as a bold move.

The left believes Romney made a tragic mistake selecting someone so "radical". The right believes that Romney made the right decision selecting someone so dedicated to "fiscal responsibility".

Both sides are wrong.

Ryan's so-called visionary / radical budget plan won't balance the budget until 2040. We had a balanced budget in 2000, yet the left thinks it's "radical" and the right thinks it's "bold" to wait 28 years to get America's fiscal house in order.

More importantly, during the Bush administration, Ryan was just another big spending politician.

Paul Ryan voted for Medicare Part D (the first new entitlement program since LBJ), No Child Left Behind (the largest federal intrusion into the classroom in history), Bush's two Middle East Wars, and TARP to bail out the Wall Street con artists. To top it off, he helped torpedo Simpson-Bowles, which would have lowered the top personal tax rate to 23% and the top corporate tax rate to 25%.

Of course, Obama / Biden are much worse, with their failed "stimulus", ObamaCare, annual deficits of more than a trillion dollars forever, shutting down energy production in the U.S., crazy left-wing social engineering, and more big government crap being shoved down our throats than ever before.

I've voted in 8 Presidential elections. I voted for the GOP nominee 4 times and I've voted for third party / independent candidates 4 times.

Unfortunately, Obama / Biden are so bad that we really don't have a choice this year. I will be holding my nose while I cast my vote for the lessor of two evils once again.

But I just feel really dirty doing so.

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#2. To: jwpegler (#0)

I will be holding my nose while I cast my vote for the lessor of two evils once again.

When faced with false choices, the free man rejects them.

Only when a man lacks moral courage, when he has surrendered his freedom and his integrity, will he allow himself to participate the illusion of freedom, rather than freedom itself. He'll mouth the appropriate platitudes, and thereafter attack those who have not yielded to their fears, cursing and condemning them, because they remind him of what he once was, and is no more...

But I just feel really dirty doing so.

Rightfully so.

Coward.

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2012-08-13   18:24:33 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Capitalist Eric (#2)

Yada, yada, yada...

You are the guy who claims that there is no difference between Romney and Obama, yet when you took a test to actually compare your views, you agreed with Obama 1% and Romney 61%.

Your extremist rhetoric has not and will never attract allies who can help you succeed.

Yes, Ryan is a big government neo-con. BUT, Obama is a communist-inspired, black liberation theology-influenced, academic, nincompoop who is hell bent on destroying the "evil" constitution that those awful "dead white males" created more than 200 year ago.

You are just too STUBBORN (or STUPID) to admit that Obama is very different and much worse than the run of the mill politicians that we've had to deal with for the last 100 years.

No one should listen to you this year.

With all due respect to Gary Johnson and Virgil Goode -- they picked the wrong year to run.

We have to get rid of Obama at all costs.

PERIOD.

jwpegler  posted on  2012-08-13   19:12:00 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: jwpegler (#4)

Yada, yada, yada...

You are the guy who claims that there is no difference between Romney and Obama, yet when you took a test to actually compare your views, you agreed with Obama 1% and Romney 61%.

Disinfo Tactic #4. Use a straw man.

Find or create a seeming element of your opponent's argument which you can easily knock down to make yourself look good and the opponent to look bad. Either make up an issue you may safely imply exists based on your interpretation of the opponent/opponent arguments/situation, or select the weakest aspect of the weakest charges.

Ryan is a big government neo-con.

Ah, the truth comes out... Who'd have guessed that would ever happen????

Thanks for confirming everything I've been saying. I'll not bother to address the rest of your post, since it's all merely posturing to keep you from being too embarrassed by your own regrettable lack of substance.

You also confirm the tag-line I'm using:

"Most people prefer to believe that their leaders are just and fair, even in the face of evidence to the contrary, because once a citizen acknowledges that the government under which he lives is lying and corrupt, the citizen has to choose what he or she will do about it. To take action in the face of corrupt government entails risks of harm to life and loved ones. To choose to do nothing is to surrender one's self-image of standing for principles. Most people do not have the courage to face that choice. Hence, most propaganda is not designed to fool the critical thinker but only to give moral cowards an excuse not to think at all." Michael Rivero

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2012-08-13   19:30:49 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Capitalist Eric (#7)

Disinfo Tactic #....

You keep posting the same thing over and over again.

What you post didn't originate with you. This is another person's model.

Do you have an original thought in your brain?

I suspect that you do, but you are too afraid to post it.

Why are you such a coward?

jwpegler  posted on  2012-08-13   20:23:51 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#17. To: jwpegler, Capitalist Eric (#16)

You keep posting the same thing over and over again.

What you post didn't originate with you. This is another person's model.

Do you have an original thought in your brain?

I suspect that you do, but you are too afraid to post it.

Why are you such a coward?

You have a lot of nerve calling out a poster for doing what you do everyday, which is: deliberately attributing a quote to a wrong poster and then posting it "over and over again".

Why are you such a coward?

mininggold  posted on  2012-08-13 20:40:27 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: jwpegler (#16)

You keep posting the same thing over and over again.

Sure. You keep trying to repackage your cowardice, so that it appears as though it's something else.

I'm not one who buys your bullshit.

What you post didn't originate with you. This is another person's model.

The rules of disinfo are well- known; I even posted an article on the subject just this morning. So what's your *point,* dipshit?

The quote from Michael Rivero is *cited* in my sig.

The observation about free men rejecting false choices, is MY observation, thus there is no citation required.

Oh, and BTW, you're using the typical straw-man argument, to divert attention from your complete LACK of a moral core.

Amusing. You failed, but at least you're entertaining- albeit in a pathetic manner.

Thanks for the laughs, dipshit.

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2012-08-13 22:27:36 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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