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Title: Lefty Attack: Paul Ryan a Follower of Ayn Rand
Source: Breitbart - Big Government
URL Source: http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Govern ... Ryan-is-a-Follower-of-Ayn-Rand
Published: Aug 12, 2012
Author: by Warner Todd Huston
Post Date: 2012-08-12 15:41:26 by SJN
Keywords: None
Views: 14112
Comments: 35

It was only minutes after news broke that Paul Ryan was Romney's likely pick for Vice President that leftwingers on Twitter began to needle Ryan as a follower of that mean ol' Ayn Rand, the famed objectivist philosopher of the middle of the last century most famous for writing Atlas Shrugged and for being a proponent of what the left says is a less than compassionate philosophy on humanity.

There is a mistaken belief on the left that Paul Ryan was somehow programmed by Ayn Rand and that his entire budget plan, his Roadmap For America's Future, is somehow one great Randian, or worse Darwinian, exercise in the survival of the strongest. The left also chides him for later turning his back on Rand and pretending his ideas really aren't driven by what they consider to be Ayn Rand's mean-spirited philosophy.

Neither claim is true.

The whole discussion began in 2005, when Paul Ryan gave a presentation before The Atlas Society, an organization dedicated to the ideas of Ayn Rand. Ryan was quite effusive about Rand's work, for sure. A full audio of the meeting is posted at the Society's website, and on it you can hear Ryan really expressing a great enthusiasm for Rand.

One of the things Ryan said is that he requires his staffers to read Atlas Shrugged.

I grew up reading Ayn Rand and it taught me quite a bit about who I am and what my value systems are, and what my beliefs are. It’s inspired me so much that it’s required reading in my office for all my interns and my staff. We start with Atlas Shrugged. People tell me I need to start with The Fountainhead then go to Atlas Shrugged [laughter]. There’s a big debate about that. We go to Fountainhead, but then we move on, and we require Mises and Hayek as well.

From this the left went off like a dog with a bone imagining that Ryan was claiming to be a full-on Randian.

Then, this year, Paul Ryan gave an interview to National Review, and there he disavowed being a strict devotee of Ayn Rand.

As Ryan told the National Review:

"I, like millions of young people in America, read Rand’s novels when I was young. I enjoyed them,” Ryan says. “They spurred an interest in economics, in the Chicago School and Milton Friedman,” a subject he eventually studied as an undergraduate at Miami University in Ohio. “But it’s a big stretch to suggest that a person is therefore an Objectivist.

“I reject her philosophy,” Ryan says firmly. “It’s an atheist philosophy. It reduces human interactions down to mere contracts and it is antithetical to my worldview. If somebody is going to try to paste a person’s view on epistemology to me, then give me Thomas Aquinas,” who believed that man needs divine help in the pursuit of knowledge. “Don’t give me Ayn Rand,” he says.

This, the left said, proves he is a flip flopper or a liar. But, again, none of it is true.

First of all, Ryan does not disavow being a fan of Ayn Rand's work. He fully admits that as a young man he was influenced by her economic theories and her energetic apologia for capitalism. But he has never, ever said he was enamored of her objectivist ideals. There are no quotes from him accepting Rand's strict philosophy.

Another area where Ryan parts company with Ayn Rand reveals a key difference between them. Rand was a vehement opponent of religion -- all religion -- as well as its moral strictures. But Paul Ryan is a committed Catholic. As he stated in the quote above, Ryan has never signed onto her anti-religious ideals. Ryan's compassionate Catholicism is what makes it impossible for him to be a full-throated Randian.

Still, the left claims that Paul Ryan's budget policies are intended to throw grandma out on the street and that he intends an Ayn Rand-like destruction of the welfare state. But the truth is, his Roadmap For America's Future goes out of its way to save the welfare state by paring it down to an economically sustainable form. Ryan is not proposing any end to the welfare state.

Ayn Rand was not nearly so kind. She called the welfare state an imposition of complete immorality on a polity and opposed its construction. Whatever you think of her philosophy, there is no evidence that Paul Ryan ever signed on to all of her ideas.

So, it just isn't true that Paul Ryan is some wild-eyed "objectivist" ready to tear down grandma's safety net. Paul Ryan is clearly a fan of Ayn Rand in many ways. But he is not a Randian objectivist. And he never was.

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While Republicrats desperately try to spin the Ryan pick so as to try and shore up the sinking Robamney ship, I ask myself a simple question: How does Ryan make Robamney any less of an authoritarian left-winger with an R behind his name?

I asked this same question last election cycle about McCain-Palin and was never given an acceptable answer. All I got was the assurance that McCain was old and would die in office and that St. Sarah would rise from the ashes and single-handedly save our country from Democrat destruction. I'm sure I will get the same drivel this time too.

The truth of the matter is that Romney is a leftist Republican and that having Ryan on the ticket doesn't change a thing.

Romney is pro-perpetual war. I don't give a darn if you (not you personally SJN) are a fundy-nut who has convinced himself that Jesus has commanded you to exterminate the entire Muslim population in order to protect Israel. If you believe it so strongly then get off your dead ass and go and fight them but leave the US out of it. The country cannot afford it. There are plenty of mainstream, heavy-hitting economists and investors out there claiming that we are on the verge of economic collapse. This collapse won't affect the likes of Robamney, Robama, or their criminal co-conspirators in DC but it will affect me and mine and most of those on this site. I was in both Somalia and Haiti in the 90's while in the army. I know what economic collapse can look like and I'm not voting for some asshole who is determined to bring it just to quench your desire to provide a Muslim blood sacrament to Jesus.

Robamney is also pro-police state. He's on record as being pro-Patriot Act, and pro-Military Commissions Act. He even stated that they didn't go far enough. He also sided with Obama on the NDAA. As such he is not fit to be an elected official of any kind in a constitutional republic, much less the President of these United States.

Spare me the world is going to end if Robama is reelected mantra. I've been hearing that same stuff my entire adult life. You can also spare me with these little rinky-dink "proofs" of how Robama is so much worse than Robamney. So what? The direction Robamny wants to lead the country is the same as Obama's when it comes to perpetual war and the police state. On top of that, I'm not convinced that Robamney would be better than Robama. Bush was 10x worse than Clinton ever thought about being. Bush grew the size of government to an extent Clinton and the Democrats could only have wet dreams about and that's not even including the cost of the WOT. He and the Republicans created the jackboot DHS for crying out loud. Robama has done nothing more than continue what Bush started. Considering the leftist neocon trash Robamney has as advisors there is NOTHING to indicate that Robamney will do anything other than create more war and add to the totalitarian infrastructure Bush and Robama have created and implemented.

On top of that I am convinced that it is the lawless, unaccountable political atmosphere created by both parties in this country that is the leading cause of the police brutality cases posted multiple times a day (and growing) on this and other sites. Do you think the two parties are unaware of this trend? Not only are they aware of it, they approve of it. The more they make us cower the easier it is to implement their agenda.

I know I'm wasting my breath. People are going to vote how they are going to vote and that's fine. That's the American way. However, no matter how bad you claim Robama is, if you cast a vote for Robamney, you are telling him and the Republicrat party that you agree with their big government, perpetual war, pro-police state policies. You are giving them the go ahead to not only carry on with everything Bush and Obama have done but Carte blanche to further their totalitarian agenda. They don't give a rat's ass that you only voted for them because Obama was worse. They will claim that your vote gives them a mandate to continue steering the country in the very same direction that Bush-Obama have taken us.

No matter which criminal wins the election the country is screwed and the totalitarian agenda of the Republican-Democrat political machine will be implemented. While my one, third party, pro-freedom vote may not make a bit of a difference at least I'll know that my vote will not be used to help Republican party scum claim that the American people back perpetual war and a police state.

Now bring on the hate. LOL! The more you Republican drones call me a commie, a Democrat, a traitor and all of the other names you like to call anyone who steps outside of the box of the two-party fraud, the happier I am going to be when I make that third party vote.

Fibr Dog  posted on  2012-08-12   17:10:32 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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Do you think that most of the Conservatives want to vote for Romney? I certainly do not. But I will not sit back and allow that crap that's in there now to remain if my vote for the lesser of the two will boot him out of that office. Yes, I know Romney is no Conservative, but he is going to be far, far better for us fiscally than obama and if you don't want to vote for either that is certainly your choice as it is for all of us. Believe me, if I thought a vote for Paul would put him in office I'd sure as heck vote for the man. Let's see what happens at the convention. But for now, this seems to be what we are faced with.

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