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Title: How Can Situations Like The Colorado Theatre Shooting Be Prevented?
Source: PU.com
URL Source: http://patriotupdate.com/articles/h ... -theatre-shooting-be-prevented
Published: Jul 24, 2012
Author: Dennis Marcellino
Post Date: 2012-07-24 08:00:32 by CZ82
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How Can Situations Like The Colorado Theatre Shooting Be Prevented?

Written on Saturday, July 21, 2012 by Dennis Marcellino

Why didn’t these things happen in the 1950’s? Why didn’t we need airport screenings then? Why didn’t people need to lock their house or car doors then? The answer is simple. There was more order then (especially in families) … which then naturally released more love and peace and security. I lived through it so I know that to be true personally. But a person can verify what I’m saying by listening to the music back then and watching the TV shows and movies. There was a different feeling in the air … even in the most impoverished communities. There was a patriotism in a country that we could be proud of and be united behind. Can we really be proud of today’s music and morals?

Here’s what it boils down to. There is a greater tolerance for “sin” now. And the natural, inbred reaction to sin is anger … to “correct” it and to implement “justice.” But political correctness has not only forced people to swallow that sin, but they even are arrested or sued for trying to speak out against it. But then at some point it explodes … in situations like these and domestic violence, even to the point where adults murder their families. We’re seeing it more and more in the news, whereas I never saw it in the news when I was growing up. The immorality of today’s society has made it very difficult to create and maintain a good marriage and family. And the feelings tied to marriage and family are VERY powerful … and therefore the anger to correct also is great.

The pressures of today are much greater. And pressure has to be released. But the love in a family helped people in the past. That’s why there weren’t a lot of gang murders, even in the black communities, where women were respected and people dressed nice and worked hard. But more than anything, God and His laws were respected above all else. But now we have rampant pornography and out of wedlock births. And those things tear at the family and cause the greatest pressure … in a person’s heart. So then a person either turns to violence or addictions to try to bring their internal experience to a good and not bad state. And poverty isn’t an excuse, because people were still generally civil even in the great depression. And in the Bible Paul says that he has learned to be content whether in poverty or riches. As a person who is devoted to God, I know that to also be true personally. I’m content in all situations JUST because I’m tied to and understand God.

The solution is this: a happy heart doesn’t do violence. And the way to have a happy heart is to love and obey God and just be tied to people who do the same. It’s that simple. But the mainstream institutions constantly work to keep God out of the media and schools. So then kids are pressured to go along with the mainstream.

So what can we do? Don’t vote for a democrat. That party is the party that promotes more and more tolerance to sin. And educate yourself and others to the realities that I’ve stated here.

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#11. To: CZ82 (#0)

Why didn’t these things happen in the 1950’s? Why didn’t we need airport screenings then? Why didn’t people need to lock their house or car doors then? The answer is simple. There was more order then (especially in families) … which then naturally released more love and peace and security.

Absolutely true,but that is only half of the story.

Back in the 50's people who were mentally disturbed were locked away in mental institutions. These people don't just suddenly spring up from out of nowhere as adults,they have been disturbed their whole lives,and their families,teachers,and friends all knew it. Then in the 1960's the ACLU with backing from people intent on destroying America won a court case put before a leftist court that stated locking mentally disturbed people away who were thought to be dangerous but had not YET hurt anyone violated their Constitutional RIGHT to be mentally disturbed and danerous,so the looney bins were emptied. The result are still seen today,with the streets of cities loaded with homeless people who die from disease and exposure to the weather while suffering greatly the whole time. Occasionally one of the loons will get angry at the world over his condition,and he strikes out to get even with the world.

The other reason is VERY closely related. Back in the 1950's if you were caught committing a violent crime,you WERE going to go to jail,and you WERE going to serve your time,period. Then the ACLU decided the prisons were overcrowded and this violated the right of the people who had never shown the slightest bit of concern about the rights of anyone else,so they started early-release programs for good behavior. Which is entirely counter-productive because what you are teaching these people then is that they can get out of prison early and escape doing their time if they just learn how to behave in prison.

The message that SHOULD be sent is "You WILL behave in prison because that is what people are expected to do in society in order to keep jobs,raise families,and live normal,peaceful lives,and because if you don't,ADDITIONAL time will be added to the sentence you are already serving."

In other words,people in the 1950's understood that actions have consequences,and bad actions result in bad consequences.

By the mid-1960's people were expecting NO consequences from bad behavior,other than maybe some free meds and a disability check.

All this can be laid directly at the feet of the Dim appointees to the Supreme Court in the 40's and 50's.

sneakypete  posted on  2012-07-24   12:43:02 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: sneakypete (#11)

And along with the 1960s came the war on poverty, which effectively removed black men from the black families.

And then the 70s saw a government endorsing women killing their unborn children. That has to have an effect on society--subconsciously, of course, when even the mother, the nurturer of society, is ok to off the most innocent beings.

And while you might not agree, pete, there was and still is the on-going attempt to completely wipe God out of the public square. I don't recall which founding father said it, but one of them said that the Constitution was written for a godly citizenry.

And then all these video games/arcade games based on killing, killing, killing...scores on the numbers killed. The videos are addictive. The sounds and sights and such are mesmerizing and are just like the slot machines in casinos where addicted gamblers play mindlessly. I have actually witnessed that last scenario.

I would imagine a group could get together and come up with a great list of things which have brought about the ills of the nation. One thing I find interesting is the time frame. As I recall, back before the 1994 takeover of the house by the GOP, the Dems had been in control for some 40 years.......and those 40 years coincide with the destructive events we're describing here.

rowdee  posted on  2012-07-25   1:24:52 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: rowdee (#22)

And then the 70s saw a government endorsing women killing their unborn children. That has to have an effect on society--subconsciously, of course, when even the mother, the nurturer of society, is ok to off the most innocent beings.

Dee,the truth is this has always been done,ever since the dawn of time. There are only two differences. One real difference is in days of yore it was midwives smothering the babies,not doctors with a needle. That's why you didn't seem many deformed or crippled kids back in the 50's and earlier. They "died at birth".

Working class people back then,especially ones in rural and farm communities just couldn't afford,in ANY sense of the word,a child that couldn't work and contribute to the family.

The other difference is healthy babies weren't smothered at birth. They were mostly cherished by the parents,and if they parents didn't want them,they put them up for adoption to people who would cherish them.

sneakypete  posted on  2012-07-25   1:53:39 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: sneakypete (#23)

If what you say is true, it was not goverment sanctioned as today; nor was it passed around in open society discussions, and certainly not demanded by a bunch of yowling wimmen about some 'right' they had to choose to kill their unborn.

There is a BIG difference in the scenario you present as being the norm back in those days. I personally don't buy that this was routinely done. I concede that there has always been evil flaws in mankind and wouldn't swear it never happened.

rowdee  posted on  2012-07-25   13:54:39 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: rowdee (#27)

If what you say is true,

Why wouldn't it be true? My own mother told me about this when I was a child. She had witnessed this happen when the older woman across the street gave birth to a monster back in the early 40's. She said the child was smothered at birth,and the woman who gave birth was told it was stillborn.

it was not goverment sanctioned as today;

No it wasn't,but what difference does that make? The results are the same.

nor was it passed around in open society discussions,

So what? The truth is often ugly,which is why so many people lie. Granted,they are polite lies (you baby was stillborn) designed to spare someone's feelings,but lies none the less.

and certainly not demanded by a bunch of yowling wimmen about some 'right' they had to choose to kill their unborn.

Wrong. While there was no yowling involved,there damn sure would have been if some of those babies had been allowed to live,and that's not even addressing the burden caring for such a child would have laid on the family.

I personally don't buy that this was routinely done.

Of course you don't. It conflicts with YOUR view on what is politically correct.

We all have our blind spots,including you and I.

The truth is even worse than that. Just a few hundred years ago living children were being left out in the cold to die in seasons where the crops had failed and the game was scarce. Just because people didn't talk about doesn't mean it didn't happen.

sneakypete  posted on  2012-07-25   14:32:09 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: sneakypete, rowdee, SJN (#30)

Why wouldn't it be true? My own mother told me about this when I was a child. She had witnessed this happen when the older woman across the street gave birth to a monster back in the early 40's. She said the child was smothered at birth,and the woman who gave birth was told it was stillborn.

You make the experience your mother witnessed seem like "normal" for all society. It was not. For every smothered and murdered deformed or mentally retarded baby there were 100s of thousands that were not and put in homes or cared for by the families. Back then there were plenty of church run and faith run homes where such children were properly cared for if the parents could not do it. One such home was a few blocks from my house. There I witnessed over 50 kids in wheel chairs with the most horrible deformities watch me and my friends play baseball on their grounds. Then there was a good classmate in my middle school. Had MD, went to regular classes and lived until he was 13. That little spark plug fought every day to breathe and he wanted to live and gave it his best. So the murderous midwives will have to give account for their deeds on the Last Day. And if they have not repented, it will be most horrible for them.

On the other hand, I am sure your mom did the right thing and reported the murderous bitch who smothered the babies at birth.

redleghunter  posted on  2012-07-25   14:48:57 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: redleghunter (#32)

You make the experience your mother witnessed seem like "normal" for all society. It was not.

Yeah,it was. If I'm wrong,direct me to all the photos of deformed children.

Children with birth defects has no chance of providing for themselves. They were a luxury people just couldn't afford.

For every smothered and murdered deformed or mentally retarded baby there were 100s of thousands that were not and put in homes or cared for by the families.

Where is the evidence of this. I only know of ONE,and he was the only child of a upper middle-class family. He was born with a deformed arm. Basically,his left hand was attached to his elbow and it was dead. Never grew and never had any motion.

BTW,how can you look at a newborn and tell he or she is retarded? Or did you just throw that in for emotional reasons?

Back then there were plenty of church run and faith run homes where such children were properly cared for if the parents could not do it.

MORE nonsense. These existed ONLY in the larger cities,and prior to the 1950's most Americans lived in rural areas.

So the murderous midwives will have to give account for their deeds on the Last Day. And if they have not repented, it will be most horrible for them.

Your kind and loving God is going to torture them for all of eternity,right?

On the other hand, I am sure your mom did the right thing and reported the murderous bitch who smothered the babies at birth.

Yes,she did the right thing,and kept her mouth shut about it,just like women have done since the dawn of time.

sneakypete  posted on  2012-07-25   15:33:38 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: sneakypete (#38)

Yeah,it was. If I'm wrong,direct me to all the photos of deformed children.

Children with birth defects has no chance of providing for themselves. They were a luxury people just couldn't afford.

For every smothered and murdered deformed or mentally retarded baby there were 100s of thousands that were not and put in homes or cared for by the families.

Where is the evidence of this. I only know of ONE,and he was the only child of a upper middle-class family. He was born with a deformed arm. Basically,his left hand was attached to his elbow and it was dead. Never grew and never had any motion.

BTW,how can you look at a newborn and tell he or she is retarded? Or did you just throw that in for emotional reasons?

Back then there were plenty of church run and faith run homes where such children were properly cared for if the parents could not do it.

MORE nonsense. These existed ONLY in the larger cities,and prior to the 1950's most Americans lived in rural areas.

So the murderous midwives will have to give account for their deeds on the Last Day. And if they have not repented, it will be most horrible for them.

Your kind and loving God is going to torture them for all of eternity,right?

On the other hand, I am sure your mom did the right thing and reported the murderous bitch who smothered the babies at birth.

Yes,she did the right thing,and kept her mouth shut about it,just like women have done since the dawn of time.

You can stick your head in the sand if you want but deformed children were born, have been born and continue to be born and live. Midwives and nurses know by simple response tests if a child is mentally retarded or Downs. I don't know what house of horrors you grew up in or what "children of the corn" town you resided, but your generalizations are bunk. It is clear you condone the murder of deformed children. You clearly lay out why you support the wholesale murder of those who are deformed. It is all financial and convenience related. Same bogus claim the abortionists give today.

Don't know where you get from my statements that God is going to torture deformed murdered by midwives babies. Those are your words, my words referred to the murderers who would put themselves above God to be their own god to make decisions on who should or should not live. The test of a just society is how they treat those with lesser means and those who cannot help themselves. Your "children of the corn" horror house town fails this test.

redleghunter  posted on  2012-07-25   16:55:38 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: redleghunter (#48)

You can stick your head in the sand if you want but deformed children were born, have been born and continue to be born and live.

Of course they are. I'd be willing to bet a bigger percentage are born and live today than at any other time in history,other than the short period in the 50's when some drug was given to pregnant women. That one drug whose name I can't remember right now had nightmare results.

They do now,but historically they didn't.

I don't know what house of horrors you grew up in or what "children of the corn" town you resided, ....

"Children of the corn"? Really? What does your loving God have to say about things like that?

It is clear you condone the murder of deformed children.

It is clear you are a idiot.

You clearly lay out why you support the wholesale murder of those who are deformed. It is all financial and convenience related. Same bogus claim the abortionists give today.

Also you are either a liar,or too stupid to recognize the difference between reporting/commenting and promoting. I'll leave it to you to pick one.

sneakypete  posted on  2012-07-25   22:40:46 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#84. To: sneakypete (#57)

You clearly lay out why you support the wholesale murder of those who are deformed. It is all financial and convenience related. Same bogus claim the abortionists give today.

Ok, if name calling is how you deal with this subject, I will ask again and we can both cut through the bull.

In your mother's town where they killed babies who were deformed at birth:

Do you or do you not support such actions?

redleghunter  posted on  2012-07-26   15:33:02 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#88. To: redleghunter (#84)

In your mother's town where they killed babies who were deformed at birth:

The closest town was maybe a two day trip away at the time. This was a small village of maybe 50-75 people.

Do you or do you not support such actions?

Are you seriously asked me if I support actions taken by private individuals 60 or more years ago?

Do you or do you not support bashing the brains of the babies of your enemies out against their city walls? After all,according to the Bible you believe in,that is what God told his soldiers to do,and you clearly follow your God.

sneakypete  posted on  2012-07-26   19:24:08 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#99. To: sneakypete (#88)

Do you or do you not support bashing the brains of the babies of your enemies out against their city walls? After all,according to the Bible you believe in,that is what God told his soldiers to do,and you clearly follow your God.

A clever way to change the subject. But if you must know, this is my belief:

From Isaiah chapter 45:

9 “Woe to him who strives with his Maker! Let the potsherd strive with the potsherds of the earth! Shall the clay say to him who forms it, ‘What are you making?’ Or shall your handiwork say, ‘He has no hands’? 10 Woe to him who says to his father, ‘What are you begetting?’ Or to the woman, ‘What have you brought forth?’”

11 Thus says the Lord, The Holy One of Israel, and his Maker: “Ask Me of things to come concerning My sons; And concerning the work of My hands, you command Me. 12 I have made the earth, And created man on it. I—My hands—stretched out the heavens, And all their host I have commanded.

redleghunter  posted on  2012-07-27   13:16:46 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#104. To: redleghunter (#99) (Edited)

Do you or do you not support bashing the brains of the babies of your enemies out against their city walls? After all,according to the Bible you believe in,that is what God told his soldiers to do,and you clearly follow your God.

A clever way to change the subject.

Clever? If you even understood what the word means you would understand the subjects are IDENTICAL. Namely things that happened in the past.

If YOU expect ME to justify or make excuses for what happened 60 or so years ago,you have no moral standing to not be asked the same question and expected to respond BY YOUR OWN STANDARDS about things that happened 2000 or so years ago.

From Isaiah chapter 45:

Wasn't he a distant relative of Doctor Seuss? Come to think of it,weren't they in the same business?

From Lennon '67: "I am the walrus goo goo g'joob."

sneakypete  posted on  2012-07-27   17:00:57 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#105. To: sneakypete (#104)

BY YOUR OWN STANDARDS

That is the point, isn't it? If we do not derive our worldview by moral absolutes then anyone's opinion or set of "standards" is what society will degrade to. That is moral relativism.

redleghunter  posted on  2012-07-27   17:06:27 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#108. To: redleghunter (#105)

That is the point, isn't it? If we do not derive our worldview by moral absolutes then anyone's opinion or set of "standards" is what society will degrade to. That is moral relativism.

I don't understand your post. YOU,the individual, HAVE no moral standards other than the ones you adopted to conform to the viewpoints of your religion.

By surrendering yourself to those beliefs,you MUST accept anything they approve of as moral.

The people who agreed with Hitler thought the moral thing to do was eliminate all the Jews,Gypsies,children with mental and physical disabilities,and even petty criminals in some cases. Were THEY a moral people?

BTW,I am NOT refereeing to the common German citizen whose choice it was to pretend this was not happening of have it happen to himself and his family. I am refereeing to the true-believer Nazi's.

I don't believe in second-hand guilt. The only people guilty are the people who commit the crimes or order the crimes to be committed.

sneakypete  posted on  2012-07-27   17:20:26 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#112. To: sneakypete (#108)

I don't believe in second-hand guilt. The only people guilty are the people who commit the crimes or order the crimes to be committed.

what about someone that knows a crime is about to be committed?

Serenissima Venezia  posted on  2012-07-27   18:12:00 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#115. To: Serenissima Venezia (#112)

what about someone that knows a crime is about to be committed?

What about them?

Are you wanting to prosecute thought crimes? Thought-crimes once removed,on top of that?

How many times growing up did you hear someone say they were going to kill somebody else? Probably hundreds of times before you even got out of hight school.

How many of those murders actually took place?

sneakypete  posted on  2012-07-27   22:19:57 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#116. To: sneakypete (#115)

You are only stating one aspect. If someone planned to kill you and told others about it - you would be fine if the act occurred and nobody did anything? (Are you in NYC?)

Serenissima Venezia  posted on  2012-07-27   22:25:12 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#117. To: Serenissima Venezia (#116)

You are only stating one aspect.

Yeah,what the hell. People SHOULD be prosecuted for what they are thinking,right? If someone planned to kill you and told others about it - you would be fine if the act occurred and nobody did anything?

A heads-up would be appreciated,but not really necessary. I've always assumed everybody I don't know and most of the people I do know would cause me harm if it would profit them and they thought they could get away with it.

I don't expect the government to protect me 24/7. I provide my own protection.

(Are you in NYC?)

No,I am an American.

sneakypete  posted on  2012-07-28   9:40:28 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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