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Title: The Socialization Of America Is Economically Impossible
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Published: Jul 5, 2012
Author: Brandon Smith
Post Date: 2012-07-05 13:59:53 by Capitalist Eric
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I understand the dream of the common socialist. I was, after all, once a Democrat. I understand the disparity created in our society by corporatism (not capitalism, though some foolish socialists see them as exactly the same). I understand the drive and the desire to help other human beings, especially those in dire need, and the tendency to see government as the ultimate solution to all our problems. That said, let’s be honest; government is in the end just a tool used by one group or another to implement a particular methodology or set of principles. Unfortunately, what most socialists today don’t seem to understand is that no matter what strategies they devise, they will NEVER have control. And, those they wish to help will be led to suffer, because the establishment does not care about them, or you. The establishment does not think of what it can give, it thinks about what it can take. Socialism, in the minds of the elites, is a con-game which allows them to quarry the favor of the serfs, and nothing more. There are other powers at work in this world; powers that have the ability to play both sides of the political spectrum. The money elite have been wielding the false left/right paradigm for centuries, and to great effect. Whether socialism or corporatism prevails, they are the final victors, and the game continues onward… Knowing this fact, I find that my reactions to the entire Obamacare debate rather muddled. Really, I see the whole event as a kind of circus, a mirage, a distraction. Perhaps it is because I am first and foremost an economic analyst, and when looking at Obamacare and socialization in general, I see no tangibility. I see no threat beyond what we as Americans already face. Let me explain… Socialism Is Failure A country that feels the need to socialize has, in my view, already failed culturally. It is an open admission by the public that they are unwilling or unable to take responsibility for their own prosperity. If a society is not able to function in a healthy economic manner without the force of government (an abstract entity often manipulated by corrupt ideals) resulting in the creation of artificial and precarious balance using fiat stimulus and overt taxation, then the people of that country are not remotely independent and self sufficient. That is to say, only a nation filled with pathetic overgrown children would actually need government to enforce mandatory “charity”, welfare, healthcare, etc. A truly healthy society supported by strong and self sustainable individuals would not beg to be parented by government. If a country is so unbalanced as to stoop to socialism, then its ailments already extend far beyond anything government (even good government) could ever hope to cure. Obamacare, its tentative application, and those who blindly support its introduction in the U.S., are an example of a weak people groveling for handouts they do not work for nor deserve. Socialism is defeat. It is a waving of the white flag by a society and the trading of that culture’s liberty for the illusion of fiscal security. It is the act of an adolescent and naïve populace groveling for an allowance from their “motherland”. If one wants to consider what a socialized America would actually be like, why not examine the track record of the EU, a group of nations which have dabbled extensively in the principles of collective centralization and various levels of socialism, including the extremes of communism and fascism (and yes folks, both are derived from a socialist/collectivist foundation, despite what pseudo-intellectuals and propagandized academics will try and tell you). What success have they accomplished in the course of their Utopian endeavors? Well, more than half of the states of the European Union have already reached debt to GDP ratios well beyond the limit required to retain membership: http://edition.cnn.com/2011/BUSINESS/06/19/europe.debt.explainer/index.html Several countries, including the UK, France, Spain, Italy, Portugal, Greece, are all in the midst of severe debt crisis. The Euro itself is on the verge of disintegration, and in all likelihood, the EU charter will be reexamined, and mutated into something completely different to what exists today. The central bankers will blame European countries and their “insistence” on maintaining sovereign control over their finances, but ultimately, it is not sovereignty that strangles the EU, but its ridiculous supranational status which is entirely misapplied and has created a state of interdependency that has weakened every member nation to the point of disaster. It should be painfully clear to anyone considering socialism as a viable option for America that this kind of system requires fiscal discipline and a vast amount of SAVINGS. Notice I say “savings” and not “money”. Money is a carnival ride; an illusion of wealth that can be printed from thin air. Savings is an actual concrete storage of real capital, an ongoing surplus of manufacturing and production capability resulting in the stockpiling of working credit and ample employment. Most of the countries of the EU do not have such savings, and never did. In fact, most European countries have operated for decades on a loss. They have never been able to live with the direct and indirect investments of outside players. Because of this, EU countries are utterly unable to keep up with the grand concepts of socialism, and have buried themselves under the crushing debts generated by entitlement programs. America is no different. Forget Universal Healthcare – The U.S. Is Bust There has been a pervasive delusion amongst pro-socialism movements in the United States that we are the “richest country in the world”. They claim it is “absurd” that the establishment system does not pay for our healthcare with such riches at its disposal. They consistently rant about Canadian Healthcare and its record of universal treatment. The problem is, they ignore the details… Canada’s national debt stands at around $1.1 Trillion (officially). Canada’s population sits at around 34 Million. America’s national debt stands at around $15 Trillion (officially) and our population sits at around 313 Million. The two countries are entirely different animals. To clamor for a Canadian style healthcare program for a country with completely opposite economic parameters is idiocy, or lunacy, or both. Officially, our economy has already broken the 100% debt to GDP threshold. Unofficially, but more accurately, the U.S. national debt sits closer to $120 Trillion. This number accounts not only for public debt, but intragovernmental debt, and implicit debt, meaning, the debt obligations the government has committed to for the near future: http://www.nypost.com/p/news/… I would also like to quickly note that mainstream economists back in 2011 were predicting the U.S. would reach 101% of GDP by 2021. It is now 2012, only one year later, and we have already crossed the 101% marker. Add to this the projected costs of Obamacare ($17 Trillion in estimated long term unfunded obligations), and what you get is a broke-ass country: http://washingtonexaminer.com/sessions-obamacare-costs-2.6-trillion-in-ten-years/article/2500877 The only factor which has stayed the tide of a full-blown macro-implosion of the U.S. is the world reserve status of our currency. The dollar is all we have left. Period. But don’t count on that for much longer either. With multiple nations, including China and Japan (our largest foreign debt holders) quietly forming bilateral trade agreements cutting out the use of the greenback, it will not be long before its world reserve status disappears as well, and then, we are on our own. The private Federal Reserve can print all they want, but if other countries no longer need dollars to facilitate cross border trade, then what we will get is hyperinflation, or stagflation. Obamacare only expedites this process by generated even more liabilities we cannot cover, thereby giving the central bank even more excuse to churn out dollars with wild abandon. To put it plainly, all those people who believe America is the “richest country in the world” are living in mushroom land. We-are-broke. Bust. In the red. In the hole. Insolvent. Our pockets have become lint traps. We’re switching from fine Belgian beer to Busch Light. And, we can’t all move back in with our parents like so many Obamacare proponents I have met… Go Ahead, Try To Enforce Obamacare… We-have-no-money. Therefore, the debate over universal socialized medicine is pointless. It is mathematically and economically impossible to implement. What the Supreme Court says on the subject of socialization certainly matters in terms of principle, and they have failed Americans spectacularly in that respect (or served their globalist sugar-daddies well; however you want to look at it). But, in terms of finance, the Supreme Court’s shocking decision means nothing. One of Ron Paul’s primary arguments against the ongoing wars in the Middle East has always been that whether one agrees with these conflicts or not is irrelevant. The U.S. does not have the means to fund them. Eventually, we will break the bank and the dollar to maintain our presence in the region, and thus, the wars WILL end, one way or another. The same philosophy goes for Obamacare and every other socializing program presented in America. They will say that taxation will cover the costs; but how do you raise taxes on a populace that is growing more destitute every year. How do you take money from people if they do not have it? This tactic doesn’t seem to be working very well for Europe. Also, keep in mind that as population and inflation grow exponentially, so will costs. Meaning, the taxation will have to expand as fast, or faster, than the expenditures. This is why so many opponents of Obamacare voice concerns over population reduction programs and rejected care; they are an inevitable end result. When you institutionalize health and life under the auspices of bureaucracy, you must also invariably institutionalize death. Population and life suddenly become a numbers issue to the state, rather than a moral issue. They will say that the penalties to those who refuse to participate will cover the costs of the rest. Again, how to you take money from people that do not have it? What if millions of people simply refuse to participate, AND refuse to pay penalties? They will say “tax the corporations”, and we could, but, as the derivatives crisis has proven, most major corporations in the U.S. are on the government take just to survive. We cannot have corporate bailouts and increased corporate taxation at the same time. The bailouts would have to end, the companies would collapse (as they should, but that’s besides the point), and we’re right back to where we started. Just like our government, most corporations also operate on false wealth. They will not be paying for Obamacare anytime soon. They will say that it is all for the greater good, but since when has the establishment been qualified to define what the “greater good” is? Is Obamacare really a matter of conscience? Or, is it a farce flaunted about as if it is a matter of conscience? They will say that people must be forced to do what is right for the group. I say, such hubris has always led to catastrophe. Usually, it is the select beneficiaries of tyrannical cultures that call for the might of the central government to be wrought upon the rest of the citizenry. Not to do right by conscience, but to satiate their desire for control. Men love government as long as it is imposing their particular world view, and as long as the tables never turn. They will say that current medical practices and costs are terrible and something must be done. I agree. However, Obamacare is not the answer. If there is one thing that wears thin upon my mind it is the one track thinking of the progressive ilk who know that Obama’s healthcare initiative is a stop gap at best, but barrel forward anyway because “at least it is something different”. “Don’t you want to help the poor”, they say. Certainly. I want to help them by saving them from the disaster that socialism will inevitably lead to. Principles and existentialist debates aside, the primary economic question still remains; where is a realistic plan to pay for this monstrosity of a program? I have yet to see a single grounded solution to the quandary. How does one pay for something he will never be able to afford? If there are no means, there will be no Obamacare.
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#14. To: Serenissima Venezia (#13)
I don't know ! I think it's real !
If you ... don't use exclamation points --- you should't be typeing ! Commas - semicolons - question marks are for girlie boys !
Brandon Smith has it exactly right, IMO. Mirrors my thoughts but I've had a hard time putting them into words. Now I can just forward his piece instead of attempting to do so.
If you ... don't use exclamation points --- you should't be typeing ! Commas - semicolons - question marks are for girlie boys !
Like I said, you're delusional.
"Most people prefer to believe that their leaders are just and fair, even in the face of evidence to the contrary, because once a citizen acknowledges that the government under which he lives is lying and corrupt, the citizen has to choose what he or she will do about it. To take action in the face of corrupt government entails risks of harm to life and loved ones. To choose to do nothing is to surrender one's self-image of standing for principles. Most people do not have the courage to face that choice. Hence, most propaganda is not designed to fool the critical thinker but only to give moral cowards an excuse not to think at all." Michael Rivero
Aww, the face of young socialists! Back then, he was just lazy and a bum and goofy - and not the norm. Today, he is all we see.
I've seen other Wizard of Ids over the years that have a decidly conservative side to them. Even BC one year, had 'Happy Newt Year' after Newt became speaker of the house.
The wizard of words ... There is only one name for people enamored of big government ... they are called “bigger-lovers” --- that’s close enough
If you ... don't use exclamation points --- you should't be typeing ! Commas - semicolons - question marks are for girlie boys !
A few years back I accidentally ran a toll booth. I was in the lanes for the magic black-box pass and couldn't get over to the right fast enough. A camera caught it, and they put the fine on my truck registration renewal bill. At some point as the economy continues to deteriorate people will quit worrying about all the stupid regs, tolls, licenses, registrations, and crap and just quit Obama's watch stopped on 24 May 2008, but he's been too busy smoking crack to notice.
I would submit that they'll go even further... and start to fight back against Big Brother in their own little ways... It's becoming quite common in the UK, despite the claims by MSM that all Brits are happy with being in the real-life version of 1984. Check here to have a few laughs. Also see here, here, here, here, and here. George Lucas made the observation that "people are like water... the more you squeeze your fist, the more slips through your fingers." A lesson our JBT government parasites must relearn, the hard way.
"Most people prefer to believe that their leaders are just and fair, even in the face of evidence to the contrary, because once a citizen acknowledges that the government under which he lives is lying and corrupt, the citizen has to choose what he or she will do about it. To take action in the face of corrupt government entails risks of harm to life and loved ones. To choose to do nothing is to surrender one's self-image of standing for principles. Most people do not have the courage to face that choice. Hence, most propaganda is not designed to fool the critical thinker but only to give moral cowards an excuse not to think at all." Michael Rivero
He just likes Cuba because they do operations to help men with their sex lives!! But then again if you're really sick forget about it, all they have is aspirin.... Gotta make sure there are plenty of horny Communists in the world... :}
Choosing and voting for a presidential candidate is like picking which STD you want to suffer from….
LOL - that's the old time clean humor that hardly exists today. Folksy.
I think he started his writing career in the 50's writing for Dean Martin - Jerry Lewis ! A long time writer for Johnny Carson ! He was off line for a few months ... june - july --- two years ago ! I had a dream of him - he was a young man ! When I woke up I knew he was a goner ! About 4 mos later his family put up the graduation announcement ! Must have had a stroke ! He - his writing partner - were both very secretive about their private - personal lives ! I begged him to write his autobiography - memoirs ! Maybe someone will write his biography ! He did share some private thoughts - experiences with me !
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So the implication of your bull shit is that 1940 was the Hottest the N Hemisphere has ever been. And that it's taken 75 years for the arctic where N Hemisphere HEAT/CO2 travels to.... to Melt....;} You stick with that. PIOMAS July 2012 Another month has passed and so here is the updated Arctic sea ice volume graph as calculated by the Pan-Arctic Ice Ocean Modeling and Assimilation System (PIOMAS) at the Polar Science Center: http://neven1.typepad.com/.a/6a0...70b0176162bf1b8970c-800wi http://neven1.typepad.com/.a/6a0...37970b01774311e6ef970d-pi This year's trend line is still tracking below last year's record. In fact, the difference in volume has become greater. 2012 is currently 1713 and 1110 km3 below 2010 and 2011 respectively. PICT20120630 Average thickness for June 30st (in m): * 2005: 2.47 * 2006: 2.44 * 2007: 2.19 * 2008: 2.34 * 2009: 2.11 * 2010: 1.91 * 2011: 1.75 * 2012: 1.69 If the model is correctly assessing sea ice volume in the Arctic, chances of new extent and area records have just become more likely. As we saw last year, the perfect weather conditions we saw in 2007 are not even necessary for that to happen. Hoover Dam stops producing electricity by 2017. LAs Vegas, Phoenix, Tucson collapse. With LA not doing much better.
It's 1.2 TRILLION BBLS BURNED IN TO THE ATMOSPHERE, STUPID!!!!!!!!...;} #1. To: Robin (#0) Climate Change. Get used to more and more often. mcgowanjm posted on 2012-07-06 9:36:51 ET Reply Trace Private Reply #2. To: All (#1) Now 1. Even with the Arctic ice in the present state increasingly extreme weather is already moving us closer to a point of increasing risk to agricultural output. 2. For the last few years extreme weather has worsened year on year and since we have positive feedback processes in progress we have no reason to suppose this will do anything but accelerate rapidly. witsendnj.blogspot.com/20...de-gate-to-damnation.html mcgowanjm posted on 2012-07-06 9:38:03 ET
That you fuckers think we can burn more than 1/2 the world's Mult million years of detritus in 100 years, cut down ALL Old Growth Forests and Insecticde/herbicide the rest and EXPECT the Planet to remain the same is Wait for it.... BATSHIT CRAZY ;} Expect Cincinnati to break 103 Again today.
So when was that record set??? 1936 just like Dayton??
Choosing and voting for a presidential candidate is like picking which STD you want to suffer from….
And Your chart explained: # Decline in solar output unlikely to offset global warming: study phys.org/news/2012-01-dec...output-offset-global.html The findings rely on the assumption that the Sun's past behaviour is a ... to offset the dominant influence of greenhouse gases on global temperatures in the 21st ... in the Dalton and especially Maunder minimum because the economic impact on .... 1998 is the hottest year on record, 9 of the other top 10 since records have ... http://phys.org/news/2012-01-dec...output-offset-global.html Decline in solar output unlikely to offset global warming: study January 24, 2012 http://(PhysOrg.com) -- New research has found that solar output is likely to reduce over the next 90 years but that will not substantially delay expected increases in global temperatures caused by greenhouse gases.
Which record? Longest stretch of 100 plus? that would be now.....;} U Pic Em.... Nashville, Tennessee Heat Wave: June 2012 Breaks All-Time ... www.huffingtonpost.com/.....eat-wave-2012_n_...Cached You +1'd this publicly. Undo 4 days ago – A record-breaking heat wave swept across the southeast starting Friday ... Hill line reads 101 degrees, in Cincinnati, Thursday June 28, 2012. Cincinnati heat breaks record on Thursday, July 5 - FOX19.com ... www.fox19.com/.../cincinn...record-on-thursday-july-5 You +1'd this publicly. Undo The National Weather Service says the record high temperature has been broken for Thursday, July 5. Your Latest Forecast ►► www.wcpo.com/dpp/weather/.../Your-Latest-ForecastDec 20, 2010 CINCINNATI - Well, we did again today. Just about 2 o'clock the thermometer hit 104 degrees breaking the ... More videos for cincinnati breaks heat records » Record Breaking Heat - LOCAL 12 WKRC-TV in Cincinnati www.local12.com/.../weath..../Record-Breaking-Heat/... You +1'd this publicly. Undo Good morning! Get ready. It looks like another record will fall today as readings approach the 100 degree mark by later this afternoon. The record for today in 98 ... Steve's forecast - Kentucky Post www.kypost.com/dpps/weath...st-Forecast_7003999Cached You +1'd this publicly. Undo CINCINNATI - Another day of record-breaking heat expected. Today's high will reach 104, breaking the old record 103 in 1874. This is our third day in a row of ... Extreme heat spreads across U.S., could break records ... www.chicagotribune.com › NewsCached You +1'd this publicly. Undo Jun 28, 2012 – KANSAS CITY, Mo (Reuters) - The Midwest cities of Cincinnati, St. Louis , Chicago and Kansas City could approach or break heat records on ... More record-breaking heat expected - Local News - Cincinnati, OH ... www.msnbc.msn.com/...cinc...ecord-breaking-heat-exp... You +1'd this publicly. Undo 14 hours ago – Two more days of triple-digit heat are in the cards for the Tri-State. Get more results from the past 24 hours Cincinnati Weather - AccuWeather Forecast for OH 45212 www.accuweather.com/en/us...2/weather.../350126Cached You +1'd this publicly. Undo Get the Cincinnati, OH 45212 weather forecast. Access hourly, 10 ... Northeast U.S. & Cincinnati Weather Reports ... Record Heat Wave to Break Chicago to DC ... Get more results from the past 24 hours Ohio Public Information Statements - Lawrenceville Georgia Weather www.lawrencevilleweather.com/publicinfo/ohCached You +1'd this publicly. Undo RECORD DAILY HIGH TEMPERATURE BROKEN AT THE CINCINNATI NORTHERN KENTUCKY INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT ON JULY 6... ON JULY 6 AT 239 ... Weather Forecast Cincinnati, OH | Cincinnati Weather | Wunderground www.wunderground.com/weather-forecast/45201 The record-setting heat wave in the Midwest continued Friday with temperatures once ... This included cities such as South Bend, Fort Wayne, Cincinnati, and Columbus. ...... health administration recommends scheduling frequent rest breaks ...
Todays....
Choosing and voting for a presidential candidate is like picking which STD you want to suffer from….
Todays.... OK. so Today's Record, which will be set approx... 2:30 pm... will then be broken before the end of this month.... No problem. #29. To: mcgowanjm (#28) Expect Cincinnati to break 103 Again today. So when was that record set???
It's real simple; AGW was a scam dreamt up 30 years ago to fleece sheeple, and promote a eugenics movement. Chew your cud, mcToejam. Putz.
"Most people prefer to believe that their leaders are just and fair, even in the face of evidence to the contrary, because once a citizen acknowledges that the government under which he lives is lying and corrupt, the citizen has to choose what he or she will do about it. To take action in the face of corrupt government entails risks of harm to life and loved ones. To choose to do nothing is to surrender one's self-image of standing for principles. Most people do not have the courage to face that choice. Hence, most propaganda is not designed to fool the critical thinker but only to give moral cowards an excuse not to think at all." Michael Rivero
Chew your cud, mcToejam. Putz. Hey, Smegma! You're dreamin' all right. Enjoy Hell....;} Keep wankin' away...while you try and figure how to pay all your debt, slave..... IT's simple....your Magic Fairy Dust don't work no more. 80% believe we've fucked up the climate. Just your Snake Handlin' Church buddies & your Gated Community.....;} Sincerely Mister Jimmie High temperature sets new record for day Cincinnati.com - 57 minutes ago ... several hours this afternoon, as the high temperature broke the record for the day. ... I have a billion-dollar idea for Apple: Build an iPhone plant in Cincinnati, and eventually other U.- 8:31 pm ..... Latest News from Cincinnati.
A dead tree in Lexington, Kentucky. Arborists say that the drought and heat are having a negative effect on Lexington's trees (Charles Bertram, Lexington Herald-Leader / Getty Images) Because these guys are good. You’d almost swear this is what global warming looks like, since it’s exactly what scientists have been predicting for decades. Indeed, the head of the nation’s climate data center, in Asheville, N.C., used the kind of scary language we’ve come to expect from climate alarmists, calling the record–breaking week “a super-heated spike on top of a decades-long warming trend.” That’s why it would be so scary if it wasn’t a hoax. But it must be, because if it was a real crisis, responsible authorities would be taking action. The president wouldn’t be approving new oil drilling in the Arctic on the very same week. The Interior Secretary wouldn’t be auctioning off a vast new store of coal. The Republican presidential nominee wouldn’t be promising to approve the Keystone pipeline to the vast tarsands of Canada as his very first order of business. But if Senator Inhofe is right, we can all relax. It looks real, but it isn’t—it’s just nature trying to compete with James Cameron. So please don’t shout fire in the global 3-D theater. Stay cool. And get a big tub of popcorn—in this epic disaster flick we’re not even close to the finale.
And The Number One issue of Collapse is that Most Everyone thinks that if they don't hear about it, It ain't happenin.... which is why the Truth Replaced by Silence works (sorta until it don't;) and is evil.... And when Electricity fails, you're all of a sudden in 1873... and No one will know you're there. 1. Some areas still without power service Parkersburg News - 1 day ago ... it has been a week and one day since the derecho storm ripped through the Mid-Ohio Valley, thousands are still without power. ... By JEFFREY SAULTON (jsaulton@newsandsentinel.com) , Parkersburg News and Sentinel ... 1. Thousands still without power MyFox Washington DC - 3 days ago 2. Tens of thousands still without electricity through July 4 WBAL Baltimore - 3 days ago
Keep wankin' away...while you try and figure how to pay all your debt, slave..... And the individual who calls itself mcgowanjm (not Jim, but jm so it could be Julie for all we know) is avoiding that hell how, exactly? Believe in global warming and you will somehow be saved? And how are you paying all your slave debt, mcgowan? Are you somehow above it all? Posting nasty jabs to others at Liberty's Flame must be of significant importance to you. Enjoying your paradise, are you?
Mister Julie to you.....zesta? really....and your Mom was doing what when she came up with that....;} 'itself'....that's good.....yes, I am SkyNet, and I am aware..... "Are you somehow above it all?" Yes, AAMOF, I realize that humans and 4C degree rise over 1760 Baseline is, at least civilization's end. I was thru this realization, O, about 32 years ago with Reagan's appointment. Tired of crying, I'm LMFAO, waiting for you Denialists to wake up. 11 in S Russia today....in 3 hours.....expect this.....;}
Believe that 1.2 Trillion BBL of burned crude has altered the Environment, and maybe you won't be surprised when your electricity does not come back on. Hoover stops producing that stuff in 5 years...;} In the meantime good luck with your 'free' magic.... religion.
Good Question....And that's the first time I've been asked. Thank you, Z. I don't have debt.....;}
Notice, Z, I only RESPOND to 'nasty jabs from others. And I Also notice that you don't seem to think any one else is out of line.....;}
Yes, that's what this Planet is.... Paradise.....as your Zio Fundy folks seem to think raping and pillaging of same is a really good idea. I look forward to that stopping.....yes....yes, I do.... You want to call that: 'Enjoying your paradise, are you?' Go right ahead. Us DIrty Fuckin Hippies have put up with worse.... Planet Hell moving to a different track now....;}
You are incoherent as usual.
Posting nasty jabs to others at Liberty's Flame must be of significant importance to you. Notice, Z, I only RESPOND to 'nasty jabs from others. And I Also notice that you don't seem to think any one else is out of line.....;} mcgowanjm posted on 2012-07-08 #44. To: mcgowanjm (#43) You are incoherent as usual. A K A Stone posted on 2012-07-08 20:34:44 ET Nobody calls out Mad Dog for his bullshit ad hominems.... how about that? Any incoherency there?.....;} The Storm is upon us. That understandable? And Zesta calling me Julie. Like I would be a woman and be here at LF.....that incoherent?
You are incoherent as usual. Title: EVIL: Democrats want to pollute the nations blood supply with faggot blood! Source: [None] URL Source: http://www.cnn.com/2012/07/06/healt ... n-blood-ban/index.html?npt=NP1 Published: Jul 8, 2012 Author: Jen Christensen Post Date: 2012-07-08 18:04:37 by A K A Stone Keywords: None BUWEAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA...O God Damn, Pleeease..... That's satire.....right?......;}
mcgowan Julie's posting from another universe. We mere humans can't be expected to understand. Let her speak freely the language only she understands.
Women are gone from LF. And blacks, Muslims, Latinos, poor never applied. You zioFundy's can't help warring on women.... And STILL no condemnation of Mad Dog. You understand that? ;}
Hear ye! Hear YE! No accident that Duke Power's CEO spent one day and received $44 million in Pay off. It's the USSA since 9/11. Market manipulation since the USSA ran out of oil discoveries.... about 1982. Climate Change since Rockefeller/Big Oil and the Top 400 refused to address the 1 C degree rise and 350 ppm of CO2. Peak Oil. The USbpEcocide was no accident. Go anywhere, do anything to keep oil flowing..... The oracle Julie has spoken, eh? Any questions, Z? What a name....Zesta....your Mom was cruel....;}
Japan's core machinery orders were expected to post a modest -2.6% drop. Instead they had a worse collapse than anything seen in the aftermath of the Fukushima disaster, plunging by a stunning 14.8% . And the kick in the groin cherry on top was the current account surplus plunged by 62.6%: consensus forecast: -14.5%. The Japanese economy has once again ground to a halt, only this time it has no earthquake or nuclear explosion to blame.
Ahhh, master of the obvious. BTW, this right wing Christian lives in KC. You might want to vacate town.
I'm married to a Russian lady. This spring one of her Russian friends visited us in KC. The couple now live in the UK, and they told us horror stories about the medical services there. Simply put, their medical care is far worse than in Russia.
BTW, this right wing Christian lives in KC. You might want to vacate town. Fuck you. I dare you to find ANY mention of Climate Change from LF in February besides mine....;} Vacate? Why would I live in KC in the First place? Unless to re organize ADM and KCS.....;}
My wife is Russian, as well. About 18 months ago, both she and my 2 year-old daughter came down with infections at the same time, were in different hospitals in Rostov... both were in critical condition. When I saw what hospitals in Russia are like, I was shocked. Luckily, both pulled through- though it was dicey for about a week. As soon as they were well enough to travel, we all flew back together. IMO, visiting the folks is all well and good... but it ain't worth dying for, to be there. I've heard some horror stories about UK hospitals... but if it's worse than Russia, that's saying something.
"Most people prefer to believe that their leaders are just and fair, even in the face of evidence to the contrary, because once a citizen acknowledges that the government under which he lives is lying and corrupt, the citizen has to choose what he or she will do about it. To take action in the face of corrupt government entails risks of harm to life and loved ones. To choose to do nothing is to surrender one's self-image of standing for principles. Most people do not have the courage to face that choice. Hence, most propaganda is not designed to fool the critical thinker but only to give moral cowards an excuse not to think at all." Michael Rivero
#15. To: Capitalist Eric (#0)
Men love government as long as it is imposing their particular world view, and as long as the tables never turn.
#16. To: Serenissima Venezia (#13)
#17. To: mcgowanjm (#12)
You can point to when I underestimated AGW....;}
#18. To: BorisY (#16)
#19. To: BorisY (#14)
I think it's real !
#20. To: Serenissima Venezia (#19)
#21. To: BorisY, Capitalist Eric, *The Two Parties ARE the Same* (#3)
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The traffic cameras tickets in calif I am told are being ignored !
paying playing altogether. Many will have little choice since they'll be dead broke with only a few nearly worthless fiat dollars.
"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul
#22. To: hondo68 (#21)
At some point as the economy continues to deteriorate people will quit worrying about all the stupid regs, tolls, licenses, registrations, and crap and just quit paying playing altogether. Many will have little choice since they'll be dead broke with only a few nearly worthless fiat dollars.
#23. To: Capitalist Eric (#8)
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Ok, I confess... I can't tell if you're serious, or just being sarcastic. CUBA? PLEASE tell me you're joking.
#24. To: BorisY (#20)
*** In an interview not too long ago, Norman was asked: “What about the future? Where are you going?” Norman replied: “There are many wonderful places still left for me to go. How “wonderful” they will be may depend on whether or not I have been invited.”
#25. To: Serenissima Venezia (#24)
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old time clean humor that hardly exists today
#26. To: Capitalist Eric (#17)
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#27. To: Capitalist Eric (#17)
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#28. To: Capitalist Eric, All (#27)
#29. To: mcgowanjm (#28)
Expect Cincinnati to break 103 Again today.
#30. To: Capitalist Eric (#17)
#31. To: CZ82 (#29)
So when was that record set???
#32. To: mcgowanjm (#31)
Which record?
#33. To: CZ82 (#32)
Which record?
#34. To: mcgowanjm (#26)
#35. To: Capitalist Eric (#34)
It's real simple; AGW was a scam dreamt up 30 years ago to fleece sheeple, and promote a eugenics movement.
#36. To: Capitalist Eric (#34)
#37. To: All (#36)
#38. To: mcgowanjm, Capitalist Eric (#35)
Enjoy Hell....;}
#39. To: Zesta (#38)
And the individual who calls itself mcgowanjm (not Jim, but jm so it could be Julie for all we know) is avoiding that hell how, exactly?
#40. To: Zesta (#38)
Believe in global warming and you will somehow be saved?
#41. To: Zesta (#38)
And how are you paying all your slave debt, mcgowan?
#42. To: Zesta (#38)
Posting nasty jabs to others at Liberty's Flame must be of significant importance to you.
#43. To: Zesta (#38)
Enjoying your paradise, are you?
#44. To: mcgowanjm (#43)
#45. To: A K A Stone, All (#44)
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#42. To: Zesta (#38)
#46. To: A K A Stone (#44)
To: mcgowanjm
#47. To: A K A Stone, mcgowanjm (#44)
You are incoherent as usual.
#48. To: Zesta (#47)
We mere humans can't be expected to understand.
#49. To: Zesta (#47)
Let her speak freely the language only she understands.
#50. To: All (#49)
#51. To: mcgowanjm (#12)
Said KC would be 115 this Summer back in February.....;}
#52. To: Capitalist Eric (#22)
It's becoming quite common in the UK, despite the claims by MSM that all Brits are happy with being in the real-life version of 1984. Check here to have a few laughs.
#53. To: GarySpFC (#51)
Ahhh, master of the obvious.
#54. To: GarySpFC (#52)
I'm married to a Russian lady. This spring one of her Russian friends visited us in KC. The couple now live in the UK, and they told us horror stories about the medical services there. Simply put, their medical care is far worse than in Russia.
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