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Title: Actor Andy Griffith Dies In North Carolina, TV Station Says
Source: REUTERS
URL Source: http://www.reuters.com/article/2012 ... griffith-idUSBRE8620P520120703
Published: Jul 3, 2012
Author: REUTERS
Post Date: 2012-07-03 10:57:38 by Brian S
Keywords: None
Views: 23985
Comments: 53

(Reuters) - Actor Andy Griffith, whose portrayal of a small-town sheriff made "The Andy Griffith Show" one of American television's most enduring shows, has died at his North Carolina home, television station WITN reported on Tuesday.

The television station quoted a longtime friend as saying that the 86-year-old actor died at his home on Roanoke Island. The Dare County Sheriff's dispatcher would say only that an ambulance was called to Griffith's residence but would not comment further.

Griffith created another memorable character, the folksy defense lawyer in "Matlock" in the 1980s and '90s, but it was his portrayal of Sheriff Andy Taylor on the "The Andy Griffith Show" in the 1960s that gave him a place in U.S. television history.

The show portrayed life in the friendly, slow-moving fictional town of Mayberry, North Carolina, which was widely believed to have been based on Griffith's own hometown, Mount Airy, North Carolina. (1 image)

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#1. To: Brian S (#0)

RIP

Regards, Stoner

Stoner  posted on  2012-07-03   11:25:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Brian S (#0) (Edited)

Another socialist propagandist bites the dust.

The government recently enlisted aged actor Andy Griffith for a commercial showcasing Medicare benefits available through health care reform. North's Carolina's old people, at least, didn't appreciate these lies, and Griffith's favorability rating has dropped 25 percentage points there.

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Politico reports that the Obama administration’s pro-Obamacare Andy Griffith TV ad cost taxpayers $3.66 million, according to records obtained from the Department of Health and Human Services. Actually, there were at least three such ads (here, here, and here), so it’s not clear whether this was the cost for one, or for the whole batch. In this ad, Griffith says, “That new health care law sure sounds good for all of us on Medicare!

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"If men through fear, fraud or mistake, should in terms renounce and give up any essential natural right, the eternal law of reason and the great end of society, would absolutely vacate such renunciation; the right to freedom being the gift of God Almighty, it is not in the power of Man to alienate this gift, and voluntarily become a slave." Samuel Adams, Rights of the Colonists, 1772

We The People  posted on  2012-07-03   11:54:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Brian S (#0)

A genuinely nice man who was also a very under-rated actor. If you haven't seen his movie portrayal of a villain,you have really missed something. He could give you chills.

And for proof of how nice he was,go to the internet boards were people are discussing his death,and you can't even find any negative comments. I really do believe this is the first time I have seen this. Mother Theresa got negative comments.

"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011

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sneakypete  posted on  2012-07-03   13:17:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: We The People (#2)

Another socialist propagandist bites the dust.

Congratulations! I have literally read hundreds of comments about him on the internet today,and YOU are the first asshole to write anything negative.

That makes you "special". Think about that for a minute. Assuming of course you are even capable of thinking and not just reacting when your dogma barks.

"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011

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sneakypete  posted on  2012-07-03   13:20:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: We The People (#2)

The government recently enlisted aged actor Andy Griffith for a commercial showcasing Medicare benefits available through health care reform.

Sorry, I'm going to give Andy a pass on that one.

The guy was in his 80's when he did that spot, I doubt that he was even aware of what he was reading off the TelePrompter. Even if he was, I'm not going to let that one mis-step keep me from enjoying his massive body of entertainment.

And you know what? Even though Andy was a life-long Democrat, at least he had the class not to shove it into anyone's face like Sean Penn or any of the loud-mouthed Hollywood stars now.

In addition to his online video with Howard in 2008, in politics Griffith has favored Democrats and recorded television commercials endorsing North Carolina Governors Mike Easley and Bev Perdue.

He spoke at the inauguration ceremonies of both.

In 1984, he declined an offer by Democratic party officials to run against Jesse Helms, a Republican U.S. Senator from North Carolina.

In July 2010, he also starred in advertisements about Medicare

"if you're not cop, you're little people"

Deckard  posted on  2012-07-03   15:29:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Deckard (#5) (Edited)

Sorry, I'm going to give Andy a pass on that one.

The guy was in his 80's when he did that spot, I doubt that he was even aware of what he was reading off the TelePrompter. Even if he was, I'm not going to let that one mis-step keep me from enjoying his massive body of entertainment.

Was there evidence that Andy had Alzheimers or became a drug-addled victim of age-related brain damage?

The problem is too many propagandists ARE in their 80s...

One can still respect and admire the body of work of Andy Griffith...yet still disrespect his politics and be reminded that after all, he'd become one more tool of the Hollywood Left.

Liberator  posted on  2012-07-03   16:02:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: We The People (#2)

Yet I'm sure you are so proud of this son of a bitch and his reverse mortgage ripoff...pathetic piece of shit, you!

Never swear "allegiance" to anything other than the 'right to change your mind'!

Brian S  posted on  2012-07-03   16:16:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Liberator (#6)

Was there evidence that Andy had Alzheimers or became a drug-addled victim of age-related brain damage?

The problem is too many propagandists ARE in their 80s...

One can still respect and admire the body of work of Andy Griffith...yet still disrespect his politics and be reminded that after all, he'd become one more tool of the Hollywood Left.

I agree.

The sheriff he portrayed was likely a conservative, but that doesn't mean the actor was. I think we identify too much with the part, and assume the actor is similar.

At least James Arness was a Republican. Perhaps he was more like the character he played than most. I usually hope so, for some reason.

Serenissima Venezia  posted on  2012-07-03   16:27:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Brian S (#0)


"we must as a species go into a period of shrinkage that we have not experienced since the Dark Ages and the Black Plague" -- lucysmom (A.K.A. minnigold)

jwpegler  posted on  2012-07-03   16:41:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Serenissima Venezia, We The People (#8)

The sheriff he portrayed was likely a conservative, but that doesn't mean the actor was. I think we identify too much with the part, and assume the actor is similar.

Yup.

The character Sheriff Taylor was their childhood surrogate daddy or uncle and Opie their surrogate brother, Aunt Bea, the same. THEY WERE ACTORS! Duh.

Calling a spade a spade - that Andy Griffith who was indeed an 0buma-Democrat - is like telling these people there's no Santa.

At least James Arness was a Republican. Perhaps he was more like the character he played than most. I usually hope so, for some reason.

That's what I've heard. But back then there was less backlash. All you need to know about Charlton Heston is that the Left STILL despises him. Now THERE'S a good man.

Liberator  posted on  2012-07-04   21:42:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Brian S (#7)

Get a grip, will ya??

You think helping olde people with NO money except for their home equity is necessarily a bad thing??

They have an opportunity to live in their house WHILE pulling out a monthly check via Reverse Mortgage. That's SPENDABLE INCOME which means they might not have to eat cat food that week. Not that YOU give a dog-crap.

And yet you have the unmitigated gall to compare THAT endorsement to Andy Griffith playing on the trust of his "Andy" character *portrayal* promoting 0bumacare?? Pfft.

Liberator  posted on  2012-07-04   21:49:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: sneakypete, We The People (#4)

Was Andy YOUR "Daddy" too? Or just Santa?

Liberator  posted on  2012-07-04   21:50:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Liberator (#10)

All you need to know about Charlton Heston is that the Left STILL despises him. Now THERE'S a good man.

LOL!

I judge a man (or person) by their enemies these days.

Serenissima Venezia  posted on  2012-07-04   23:32:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Serenissima Venezia, Liberator (#8)

The sheriff he portrayed was likely a conservative, but that doesn't mean the actor was.

What you two seem to be missing is that people of his generation grew up with Democrats that were conservatives. Yeah,FDR and that bunch out of the NE were commies,but things were different in most of the rest of the country.

Ronald Reagan used to be a Democrat. So did Jesse Helms and many others.

"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011

Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs

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sneakypete  posted on  2012-07-04   23:36:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Liberator (#10)

All you need to know about Charlton Heston is that the Left STILL despises him. Now THERE'S a good man.

LOL! You mean the same Charleton Heston that went on Rosie O'Donnels tv show and agreed with that that "people have no right to own AK-47's",and then went on to say "I hate them"?

The same Charleton Heston that was a friend of MLK Jr,and bragged about being a Freedom Marcher and who was a huge fan of The Civil Wrongs Act of 1964?

The same Charleton Heston that bragged about being "probably the man most responsible for getting a reluctant President to sign the Gun Control Act of 1968 into law"?

THAT Charleton Heston was a good man?

"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011

Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs

Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter.

sneakypete  posted on  2012-07-04   23:40:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Liberator (#12)

Was Andy YOUR "Daddy" too? Or just Santa?

You really are getting pissy and desperate to take cheap shots,aren't you?

How "Christian" of you.

"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011

Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs

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sneakypete  posted on  2012-07-04   23:41:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: sneakypete, Serenissima Venezia (#14)

What you two seem to be missing is that people of his generation grew up with Democrats that were conservatives. Yeah,FDR and that bunch out of the NE were commies,but things were different in most of the rest of the country.

Ronald Reagan used to be a Democrat. So did Jesse Helms and many others.

WTH does 70 years ago with FDR or even 50 years when Helms and Reagan were Dem have to do with Andy Griffith shilling for 0bumaCare on the 21st centrury? EVEN IN THE SOUTH?

Liberator  posted on  2012-07-04   23:52:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: sneakypete (#15) (Edited)

LOL! You mean the same Charleton Heston that went on Rosie O'Donnels tv show and agreed with that that "people have no right to own AK-47's",and then went on to say "I hate them"?

The same Charleton Heston that was a friend of MLK Jr,and bragged about being a Freedom Marcher and who was a huge fan of The Civil Wrongs Act of 1964?

The same Charleton Heston that bragged about being "probably the man most responsible for getting a reluctant President to sign the Gun Control Act of 1968 into law"?

THAT Charleton Heston was a good man?

I knew there was a good reason why the Dems and liberals STILL despise Heston....

1) Btw, chyeah - we should hand out AF-47s like M&Ms, eh? Heston was a powerful and impressionable symbol for the NRA and gun ownership and rights; Right AND Left STILL quote his, "out of my cold dead hands." It doesn't matter what your opinion is; It's not like he promoted any of Bubba's or 0buma's legislation. LIKE COMMIE ADVOCATE, ANDY GRIFFITH.

2) Heston marched peaceable and rightfully with MLK for good reason. There were SOME Civil "Rights" that did need to be addressed. Do you deny that?

Later on, the Black Mafia and Left hated Heston, Sherlock. But...but...WHY??

Liberator  posted on  2012-07-05   0:00:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Liberator (#17)

WTH does 70 years ago with FDR or even 50 years when Helms and Reagan were Dem have to do with Andy Griffith shilling for 0bumaCare on the 21st centrury? EVEN IN THE SOUTH?

I know you are a little deranged,so I will try to explain this to you. Andy Griffith was a Democrat 70 years ago.

He was also a church-going Christian.

"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011

Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs

Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter.

sneakypete  posted on  2012-07-05   0:13:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: sneakypete (#19)

I know you are a little deranged,so I will try to explain this to you. Andy Griffith was a Democrat 70 years ago.

He was also a church-going Christian.

If you say so...

I'm sure his pimping of 0bumaCare is just an anomaly and contribution to Kerry just a coincidence.

Liberator  posted on  2012-07-05   0:21:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Liberator (#18)

1) Btw, chyeah - we should hand out AF-47s like M&Ms, eh?

You ignorant slug,Heston didn't even know what a AK-47 was. He thought AKM's were machine guns. AND....,nobody was talking about handing out AK-47's like M&M's,even though those are the very specific type of weapon protected by the 2nd Amendment. To dumb it down to your level,Heston stated publicly that citizens didn't have a RIGHT to own rifles he didn't approve of.

Heston was a powerful and impressionable symbol for the NRA and gun ownership and rights;

A senile old leftist fart who was nothing more than a sock puppet for Wayne LaPierre. He actually WAS a fitting symbol for the NRA. All image and no reality.

Right AND Left STILL quote his, "out of my cold dead hands."

Unless it was a "ugly rifle" or a non-target handgun. Then it would never have been in his hands,so he didn't give a damn. All he really cared about were antique muskets,and skeet and trap guns,anyhow.

You DID read the part about him bragging about probably being the man most responsible for the Gun Control Act of 1968 being signed into law,right?

It doesn't matter what your opinion is; It's not like he promoted any of Bubba's or 0buma's legislation. LIKE COMMIE ADVOCATE, ANDY GRIFFITH.

You really are a complete fool,aren't you? Your ignorance is stunning. Heston was to the LEFT of Bill Clinton and bragged about it.

Then again,you operate off image,not facts. It's the legend that is important to you.

2) Heston marched peaceable and rightfully with MLK for good reason.

ROFLMAO!

There were SOME Civil "Rights" that did need to be addressed. Do you deny that?

You mean like homosexuals having the right to marry?

"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011

Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs

Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter.

sneakypete  posted on  2012-07-05   0:28:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: sneakypete (#21)

Heston was to the LEFT of Bill Clinton and bragged about it.

*eyeball roll*

Me: "There were SOME Civil "Rights" that did need to be addressed. Do you deny that?"

You: (no answer...just more usual deflection)

Andy Griffith: 0buma Dem

Charlton Heston: NRA Republican

Case closed.

Liberator  posted on  2012-07-05   0:35:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Liberator (#22)

Me: "There were SOME Civil "Rights" that did need to be addressed. Do you deny that?"

You: (no answer...just more usual deflection)

Wrong. I'm not the moral coward that you are.

My answer is "Yes,I DO deny the charges that were made." Despite what seems to be "common knowledge" now,blacks COULD vote before the Civil Wrongs Act of 1964 was signed into law.

They could even marry each other.

Charlton Heston: NRA Republican

Case closed.

No,it's your mind that is closed.

"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011

Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs

Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter.

sneakypete  posted on  2012-07-05   0:49:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: sneakypete (#23)

Despite what seems to be "common knowledge" now,blacks COULD vote before the Civil Wrongs Act of 1964 was signed into law.

I never states "voting" as an issue of the Civil Right Act - never mind THE issue...and why Heston marched with MLK. But I knew you'd try and create some kind of tangential BS though.

I'm not the moral coward that you are.

No...You're just a pimping gay marriage, a gay goobermint, ignoring addressing the gay "Special Rights" I mentioned...and are a intellectually dishonest poster and anti-Christian bigot.

Book II: Case Closed.

Liberator  posted on  2012-07-05   1:09:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: sneakypete, liberator (#19)

Andy Griffith was a Democrat 70 years ago.

His ad for Obamacare was much more recent than that.

Serenissima Venezia  posted on  2012-07-05   1:35:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Serenissima Venezia, sneakypete (#25)

Pete: "Andy Griffith was a Democrat 70 years ago."

His ad for Obamacare was much more recent than that.

Uh, yeah. And isn't THAT the point?

He was an 86 year old 0buma-Tool who helped "catapult the propaganda". FOR 0BUMA. he should know better, but he apparently didn't care.

The guy also donated to John Kerry Presidential Campaugn. Look - he was was a dyed-in-the-wool Dem.

Liberator  posted on  2012-07-05   1:53:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Liberator (#24)

I never states "voting" as an issue of the Civil Right Act - never mind THE issue...and why Heston marched with MLK. But I knew you'd try and create some kind of tangential BS though.

Yeah,Heston,the "great conservative" bragged about pushing the Civil Wrongs Act of 1964 and getting GCA-68 signed into law,but those are just tangential issues that have no reflection on his political views,huh?

With "reasoning" like that it's easy to see why you base your life on faith.

No...You're just a pimping gay marriage, a gay goobermint, ignoring addressing the gay "Special Rights" I mentioned..

Admit it,liar. You want an America with special classes of citizens that have more rights than other classes of citizens.

And,of course,the citizens with the most rights will be the ones that agree with your religious programming.

"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011

Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs

Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter.

sneakypete  posted on  2012-07-05   9:19:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: Liberator (#26)

The guy also donated to John Kerry Presidential Campaugn. Look - he was was a dyed-in-the-wool Dem.

Who ever said he wasn't?

That doesn't mean his political views weren't based on being a Patriotic American. They were based on the values he grew up with and still held.

He also put his money were his mouth was by going in his own pocket to create a band at a rural high school. He not only bought all the instruments,he even paid the music teacher's salary the first year. This was back in the 60's.

More recently he bought all the computers and software to create a computer lab and class at a high school.

I don't know why yuo can't understand that he grew up in a era when it was the Dims that were conservatives,and the Republicans that were the globalists working to destroy America.

If there is anybody on this board that should understand the power of being programmed while still a child,it should be you.

"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011

Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs

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sneakypete  posted on  2012-07-05   9:28:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: sneakypete (#4)

Congratulations! I have literally read hundreds of comments about him on the internet today,and YOU are the first asshole to write anything negative.

Thank you!

I apologize if the truth, and my outlook on it, causes you pain.

some text

"If men through fear, fraud or mistake, should in terms renounce and give up any essential natural right, the eternal law of reason and the great end of society, would absolutely vacate such renunciation; the right to freedom being the gift of God Almighty, it is not in the power of Man to alienate this gift, and voluntarily become a slave." Samuel Adams, Rights of the Colonists, 1772

We The People  posted on  2012-07-05   11:08:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: Deckard, sneakypete (#5)

Even if he was, I'm not going to let that one mis-step keep me from enjoying his massive body of entertainment.

Benidict Arnold won some battles for this country before he betrayed it.

Sorry, I'm going to give Andy a pass on that one.

No need to be sorry. You have a right to your opinion, and speaking it doesn't cause me pain.

some text

"If men through fear, fraud or mistake, should in terms renounce and give up any essential natural right, the eternal law of reason and the great end of society, would absolutely vacate such renunciation; the right to freedom being the gift of God Almighty, it is not in the power of Man to alienate this gift, and voluntarily become a slave." Samuel Adams, Rights of the Colonists, 1772

We The People  posted on  2012-07-05   11:11:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: Brian S (#7)

Yet I'm sure you are so proud of this son of a bitch and his reverse mortgage ripoff...pathetic piece of shit, you!

LOL!

Me? A Fan of Fred? It's like you don't even know me anymore. ;o)

pathetic piece of shit, you!

Lighten up, Francis.

some text

"If men through fear, fraud or mistake, should in terms renounce and give up any essential natural right, the eternal law of reason and the great end of society, would absolutely vacate such renunciation; the right to freedom being the gift of God Almighty, it is not in the power of Man to alienate this gift, and voluntarily become a slave." Samuel Adams, Rights of the Colonists, 1772

We The People  posted on  2012-07-05   11:13:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: Liberator (#12)

Was Andy YOUR "Daddy" too? Or just Santa?

Be easy on them. They're mourning the death of a favored socialist.

some text

"If men through fear, fraud or mistake, should in terms renounce and give up any essential natural right, the eternal law of reason and the great end of society, would absolutely vacate such renunciation; the right to freedom being the gift of God Almighty, it is not in the power of Man to alienate this gift, and voluntarily become a slave." Samuel Adams, Rights of the Colonists, 1772

We The People  posted on  2012-07-05   11:16:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: sneakypete, Liberator (#21)

Then again,you operate off image,not facts.

Careful Pete, one could turn that around on you.

Can't we all just be allowed our opinions without others freaking out?

Me? If Obama had died on the same day as Andy, I'd consider it a twofer and call it a national holiday.

some text

"If men through fear, fraud or mistake, should in terms renounce and give up any essential natural right, the eternal law of reason and the great end of society, would absolutely vacate such renunciation; the right to freedom being the gift of God Almighty, it is not in the power of Man to alienate this gift, and voluntarily become a slave." Samuel Adams, Rights of the Colonists, 1772

We The People  posted on  2012-07-05   11:22:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: We The People (#29)

I apologize if the truth, and my outlook on it, causes you pain.

It doesn't because I realize you are a idiot.

"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011

Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs

Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter.

sneakypete  posted on  2012-07-05   11:55:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: We The People (#33)

Me? If Obama had died on the same day as Andy, I'd consider it a twofer and call it a national holiday.

Joe Biden.

Within days you would be pining for "the good old days under Obummer."

"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011

Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs

Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter.

sneakypete  posted on  2012-07-05   11:57:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: We The People (#31)

Lighten up, Francis.

LMAO!!!

"Most people prefer to believe that their leaders are just and fair, even in the face of evidence to the contrary, because once a citizen acknowledges that the government under which he lives is lying and corrupt, the citizen has to choose what he or she will do about it. To take action in the face of corrupt government entails risks of harm to life and loved ones. To choose to do nothing is to surrender one's self-image of standing for principles. Most people do not have the courage to face that choice. Hence, most propaganda is not designed to fool the critical thinker but only to give moral cowards an excuse not to think at all." Michael Rivero

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2012-07-05   13:13:54 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: sneakypete (#34)

I apologize if the truth, and my outlook on it, causes you pain.

It doesn't because I realize you are a idiot.

"Then again,you operate off image,not facts."

LOL!

But.... I still like you, Pete!

some text

"If men through fear, fraud or mistake, should in terms renounce and give up any essential natural right, the eternal law of reason and the great end of society, would absolutely vacate such renunciation; the right to freedom being the gift of God Almighty, it is not in the power of Man to alienate this gift, and voluntarily become a slave." Samuel Adams, Rights of the Colonists, 1772

We The People  posted on  2012-07-05   13:24:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: Brian S (#0)

RIP, Andy...

I loved the show for what it was......I miss the goodness of simpler down home way of life.

And thanks to the show we have Ron Howard as a director.

rowdee  posted on  2012-07-05   13:49:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: sneakypete (#3)

And for proof of how nice he was,go to the internet boards were people are discussing his death,and you can't even find any negative comments. I really do believe this is the first time I have seen this. Mother Theresa got negative comments.

I don't recall that he was ever in negative publicity, i.e., out drunk somewhere, or sleeping around, or acting like the immature crowd in Hollywood that think they are something great.

rowdee  posted on  2012-07-05   13:52:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: Deckard (#5)

Thaks for the info on Andy. I didn't know his political leanings.

As for making the commercial......I believe he was being honorable in promoting what he thought was good for his peers, the seniors of the nation, and not some ulterior evil motive.

Just because people have some different values than we do, it does not make them evil necessarily. I think way too many are jaundiced nowadays to thinking that people are evil unless they march lock step with our thoughts and principles.

rowdee  posted on  2012-07-05   13:57:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: sneakypete (#14)

What you two seem to be missing is that people of his generation grew up with Democrats that were conservatives. Yeah,FDR and that bunch out of the NE were commies,but things were different in most of the rest of the country.

I read that and started smiling big time as memories flooded back. This is sooooo true.

My maternal grandfather was a democrat, but he hated LBJ's guts with a bloody passion!

If anyone dared called my Grandpa a commie or a socialist to his face, he'd have kicked their arse down the street a couple of blocks and then used their mop of hair to sweep up all the mess!

Grandpa was a southern democrat, as was his Daddy.......and being southerners, they hated Lincoln, the Republican. That, and how businessmen treated employees back in their day is what made my ancestors democrats, I'm sure.

I'm still amazed that just my oldest brother and I are/were Republicans, and I've been an independent for a long time now.

rowdee  posted on  2012-07-05   14:11:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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