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Title: Three Articles that help explain Israel
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WELS (Wisconsin Evangelical Lutheran Synod)
URL Source: http://www.wels.net/news-events/for ... december-2008/invisible-church
Published: Jun 24, 2012
Author: various - Noted at end of each article.
Post Date: 2012-06-24 10:03:21 by SJN
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The Invisible Church As the Bible describes the church, it becomes clear that the church is both what we see and what we cannot see. Church. The word paints a picture. You see the building in which you worship. It may be a small, white-frame building set on a hill in the quiet countryside. Or it may be a large, stone structure occupying a street corner in a busy city. It’s not unusual for us to think of a building when we think of church. Worship is an important part of our lives, and that worship takes place in a building we love, whether it is fancy or plain. But that is not the way the word church is used in the Bible. In Scripture, church most often refers to people and not to buildings. The church is invisible In the New Testament the word ecclesia is often translated as church. Ecclesia refers to a group of people who have been called together. It is an assembly. Yet even that definition does not fully explain what the church is. As the Bible describes the church, it becomes clear that the church is both what we see and what we cannot see. The church is both visible and invisible. Why would we call a church invisible? You can see a building. You can see the people who gather in that building. Yet we do speak of the church as invisible in the Apostles’ Creed when we confess “I believe in the holy Christian church, the communion of saints.” Sometimes people mistakenly use the term saint to refer to a person who does an abundance of good deeds, someone who helps others. But the Bible uses the term to describe simply a believer. We even distinguish between believers who have been called home to heaven and those who still battle in this world. We speak of saints triumphant and saints militant. The apostle Peter describes these believers as “a chosen people, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, a people belonging to God” (1 Peter 2:9). Together all believers form the holy Christian church, a “spiritual house” made up of living stones chosen by God. When the Holy Spirit works faith in our hearts, we become part of this structure. The Lord Jesus can see the faith in our hearts. We, however, can only see the fruits of faith and not the faith itself. Because we cannot see faith, the church is invisible to our eyes. The prophet Elijah did not recognize that there were still seven thousand believers in Israel (1 Kings 19:8-18). He thought that he was the only believer left. Likewise, we cannot always tell whether a person is a believer or an unbeliever. As the Bible describes the church, it becomes clear that the church is both what we see and what we cannot see. Although the church may be invisible to us, the Lord sees his church clearly. “The Lord knows those who are his” (2 Timothy 2:19). At the same time each person knows what is in his or her heart. Trusting in the promises the Lord gives us, we know that we belong to that communion of saints, the church of God. Characteristics of the invisible church This invisible gathering of all believers is not limited by geography. The apostle John reminds us that believers come from different places and “from every nation, tribe, people and language” (Revelation 7:9). In addition, the church is not limited by time. All believers who have lived, are now living, and will live until Jesus returns at the end of time—all these believers are part of this church. The church, the body of all believers, is invisible, and it is also universal. Once again we confess this fact in the Third Article of the Apostles’ Creed. “I believe in the holy Christian church.” The first people who used this confession of faith said, “I believe in the holy catholic church.” The word catholic originally had no denominational connotation. It simply meant universal. When catholic became associated with a particular organization, the word Christian was substituted to prevent confusion. In the Apostles’ Creed we confess that we believe that the Lord gathers together everyone whose faith is in Jesus Christ as the Savior. People believe in many things. We say that we believe in our team, in our country, and in people who are dear to us. Likewise, many people believe in some religious figure other than Christ. God’s invisible church gathers together only those people who confess Jesus as their Savior. We distinguish ourselves from the followers of Judaism, Islam, Buddhism, and every other religion. We confess that Jesus Christ is true man and true God. We believe that Christ is sinless and perfect and that he is the Lamb of God who takes away the sins of the world. As the Bible describes the church, it becomes clear that the church is both what we see and what we cannot see. In a world that suggests that it does not matter what you believe as long as you believe, it becomes important to remember that the invisible church gathers together all believers in Christ. Without faith in Jesus we cannot be saved. Without Jesus we have no part in the communion of saints, the gathering of all believers. Jesus makes that clear when he says, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me” (John 14:6). People die. Church buildings may fall apart. Congregations may disband. But the invisible church continues. The Lord has promised that there will always be true believers who are kept faithful by the power of God. “My sheep listen to my voice; I know them, and they follow me. I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; no one can snatch them out of my hand” (John 10:27,28). What a comfort it is to know that the Holy Spirit, who calls us to faith, also preserves us in that faith through the gospel in Word and sacraments! It is easy to become attached to a congregation. It is in that fellowship that we listen to the good news of Jesus proclaimed. There we hear that our sins are forgiven. In our congregation we draw close to Jesus as we receive the sacrament of his body and blood. Likewise the building in which a congregation worships may be a special place. It may be the same structure in which we were baptized, confirmed, and married. It reminds us of all the blessings God has showered upon us. But we are part of something that is even more valuable, the holy Christian church. Our triune God has brought us together with people we may never see or know on this side of eternity. Through faith the Lord has made us a part of the congregation of all believers. Right now we are not able to see this church in its entirety. Yet what is invisible to our eyes now will be seen when the Lord returns in glory. What a joy it will be to see all believers from every part of the world and from all times! The day will come when we will gather together and praise the God of grace who gives us membership in his family, the invisible church. That church is not really invisible. It is only invisible to us. God sees it clearly. James Korthals, a professor at Wisconsin Lutheran Seminary, Mequon, Wisconsin, is a member at David’s Star, Jackson. Peter's Picture of the Church 1 Peter 2:4-10 The word "temple" in our modern society usually describes a large, beautiful building which is used for the worship of some god. The use of such temples goes back thousands of years. Peter used it to paint a beautiful word picture of Jesus and his church in 2:4-8. Made up of living stones Jesus is pictured in many ways in John's gospel. Peter adds his own picture here, when he writes, "The Lord Jesus is the living stone" (v. 4). In verse 6 he gives the original source for this statement (Isaiah 28:16), where God said, "Look! I'm laying a stone in Zion [another name for Israel], a very special cornerstone of great value, and the person who believes in him will never be disappointed." In the ancient world the cornerstone was more than a stone on which was carved the date of construction. The cornerstone determined the length, the width, and the height of the building, so that the whole building depended on that cornerstone. That is the picture Peter uses to describe the church in verse 5a, where he says, "And since you are living stones, as you come to him you are built up into a spiritual temple," of which Jesus is the cornerstone. The church is built on Jesus, and around Jesus, the cornerstone. And it is made up of people who are like Jesus--perfectly holy beings in God's sight. That is the way God sees every person who truly believes in Jesus as his or her Savior, because our God-given faith makes us new creatures who are perfectly holy in God's sight, and every such person "will never be disappointed" on Judgment Day. Then Peter explains in verse 7, "This means that he's of great value to you people who believe in him, but for those who don't believe in him, 'the stone which the builders [the Jewish nation as a whole] decided was no good, is the very one which has become the cornerstone'; and 'the stone which will make people stumble, and the rock which will make them fall.' "How clear Peter makes it that Jesus is the difference between eternal life and eternal damnation. We are now a holy group of priests Next Peter uses a new metaphor in verse 5 when he says that the believers who come to Jesus as living stones "are built up into a spiritual temple, to be a holy group of priests, who offer up spiritual sacrifices which God is happy to receive." He continues in verses 9,10, "There was a time when you were no people at all, but now you are God's people. You who never knew God's mercy have now received his mercy." Praise the Lord! Peter is reminding us that there was a time when we were all outsiders, so far as God is concerned, unbelievers who had never heard of the triune God. But now that we have heard the good news and have come to believe it, we are God's people, while the Jews, as a nation, have rejected their Messiah and are outsiders. Now you must take note of the fact that every believer is a priest whose principal occupation it is to offer spiritual sacrifices to our triune God each day of our lives. Yes, from morning to evening we offer our God our thanks and praises for the undeserved love he has shown us by sending first his Son to atone for all our sins, and then his Holy Spirit who has brought us to believe the good news that all our sins are forgiven by Jesus' death on the cross, so that we are now God's children who are perfectly holy in God's sight. Our task as priests is to also bring him our other sacrifices. First there are our time and our talents which we spend carrying out the different tasks we can do as members of our congregations. In some cases we may give our Lord all of our time and talents to serve as pastors, teachers, missionaries, or church office workers. All of us, whether we are active workers or not, can offer the Lord a portion of our financial resources, which represent the value of our time spent in some gainful occupation. And of course the temple in which we serve is known to us as the church, the whole body of believers. The picture of the church that Peter gives us here is perhaps the most complete picture to be found anywhere in the Bible. Julian Anderson is a retired pastor and seminary professor living in Naples, Florida. Samuel: A Judge in Israel Concentrating on the Lord is daunting when dangers clamor for attention. Think back 300 years before Samuel. Following the death of those who carved a Jewish homeland out of Canaan, “another generation grew up, who knew neither the Lord nor what he had done for Israel” (Judges 2:10). To awaken his spiritually-anesthetized people, God enlisted neighboring nations to harass, enslave, and terrorize Israel. Slapped to consciousness, God’s people recognized their sin, pleaded for forgiveness, and prayed for relief. God then raised up leaders—judges—who with the Lord’s power pushed back the oppressors. Moral and spiritual health flourished. But “when the judge died, the people returned to ways even more corrupt than those of their fathers . . .” (Judges 2:19). Repenting to God This cycle of godlessness, oppression, repentance, freedom, upright living, and a return to godlessness repeated itself until Samuel. Remember Eli and his sons? 1 Samuel 7 brings us to a repentance and freedom section of that cycle and to Samuel as Israel’s final judge. The Ark of the Covenant remained in the border town of Kiriath-Jearim for 20 years after the Philistines captured it and then returned it to stem a Lord-induced plague. During those two decades “all the people of Israel mourned and sought after the Lord” (7:2). To confirm that renaissance of faith, Samuel summoned his countrymen to a spiritually essential, but politically provocative, act—national purification and rededication. Israel was not a free country. Philistine overlords kept close watch. When their surveillance noticed huge numbers of Israelites staging at Mizpah (literally, “look out point”), their early-warning alarms wailed. Mizpah was a military gem mounted in hills about eight miles north of Jerusalem. Soon the sound of Philistine marching boots, the clank of armor, and the bellow of war trumpets echoed off Mizpah. “When the Israelites heard of it, they were afraid . . .” (7:7). No doubt. Concentrating on the Lord is daunting when dangers (dare we add personal problems or financial difficulties) clamor for attention. Victory through God Samuel, however, urged Israel to fasten on God. “Do not stop crying out to the Lord our God for us, that he may rescue us” (7:8). Strength was not in their military might, but in the Lord’s omnipotence. God confirmed that. With Israeli knees bent in prayer and without an Israeli sword unsheathed, God’s deafening thunder routed the Philistine army. Panicked, the troops stumbled south toward safety. Their backs made easy targets. The Philistine losses that day did not completely free Israel. We await Saul and David to accomplish that. Israel, however, did enjoy a season of peace with Philistia and, as a fringe benefit, with the Amorites. Concentrating on the Lord is daunting when dangers clamor for attention. To mark the victory, Samuel set up a monument called Ebenezer (“stone of help”). Ebenezer stones (church cornerstones, wedding anniversaries, birthdays) remind us, “Thus far has the Lord helped us.” But our most conclusive proof that there’s always an upside in our downside world is Jesus, “the stone the builders rejected [that] has become the capstone” (1 Peter 2:7). James A. Aderman is pastor at Fairview, Milwaukee.
(The Following article should help to illuminate why the Nation of Israel and it's people have seen thousands of years of turmoil).
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God calls us for a purpose. He graciously asks us to participate in calling others to faith in Jesus. An incomprehensible aspect of God's salvation plan is that from the very beginning he planned to let his people participate in it. Speaking of our mother, Eve, he said to the serpent, "I will put enmity between you and the woman, and between your offspring and hers; he will crush your head, and you will strike his heel" (Genesis 3:15). The Savior would win salvation, but humanity would be involved. In fact, humanity would be the way God would bring his calling to the world. GOD CHOOSES HUMANS TO BRING ABOUT HIS PROMISES From the time Adam and Eve left the garden, God involved human beings in bringing his promise, which the world desperately needed to hear, by calling to himself a people with a purpose. In the Old Testament, God called the nation of Israel for a special purpose. In Genesis 12, the Lord appears to Abram, a childless old man married to a barren wife, and promises to make of him a great nation, a people begotten by the promise of God, a people with the purpose of sharing the promise of God with the world: "I will make you into a great nation and I will bless you; . . . and all peoples on earth will be blessed through you" (vv. 2,3). God had a purpose to achieve, and he called a people into existence to carry out that purpose. The purpose was the promise made to the patriarchs that all people on earth might be blessed by the arrival of God in the flesh. The calling was to be the people through whom the Seed of woman would come. They would carry this promise and the line of the Promise-fulfiller through generation after generation. Why did God call these people? Why would he involve them in his plan of salvation? His reasons defy our logic. The only answer is grace. They carried the promise and told the story of the coming Savior even when they were unaware of it. For example, the straying kings of Judah still carried David's line forward. And then one day about two thousand years after Abram heard the promise—and two thousand years before we had—this people achieved their purpose in the womb of a virgin overshadowed by the power of the Most High and bearing the hope of all the ages and the promised Son of Israel, God with us. MEN AND WOMEN CALLED TO SHARE THE GOSPEL In the New Testament, the need for a physical bloodline to carry the promise of the Savior had passed. Yet God wanted his promise of forgiveness shared with the world. Again defying all human logic, the Lord of heaven and earth took the priceless treasure and put it into jars of clay. He invited men and women to be involved with his plan of salvation. Just as God called Israel into existence to fulfill his purpose, so now has God called a new people out of nothing to carry out his purposes in the world. This people too would carry Christ to the world. God called a people with a purpose—he called the church: "You are a chosen people, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, a people belonging to God, that you may declare the praises of him who called you out of darkness into his wonderful light. Once you were not a people, but now you are the people of God" (1 Peter 2:9,10). The church is a chosen people, a body of priests and kings, a nation holy and belonging to God. That is what God made us by calling us to faith and sonship in Christ. Immediately following these amazing statements of what we are, Peter tells us why God made us all those things. He tells us the calling that God gives the church, her purpose—namely, that the church might declare the praises of him who called us out of darkness into light. Our calling as the church is to be the mouth of God to this world. Grace upon grace, God took a mission the angels wish they had and gave it to us. Christ has invited us to participate in his rescue mission for the world. Jesus outlined the purpose and mission of the church at the end of Luke's gospel: "Then he opened their minds so they could understand the Scriptures. He told them, 'This is what is written: The Christ will suffer and rise from the dead on the third day, and repentance and forgiveness of sins will be preached in his name to all nations, beginning at Jerusalem' " (24:45-47). That is the purpose God has given us. He calls us to preach the law and the gospel, repentance and forgiveness, to a world that needs to hear it. No longer does God's voice thunder from the mountain or from the skies. Rather, God puts his words into the mouths of his church and his ministers, and God speaks through us. This is what St. Paul meant when he said: "All this is from God, who reconciled us to himself through Christ and gave us the ministry of reconciliation: that God was reconciling the world to himself in Christ, not counting men's sins against them. And he has committed to us the message of reconciliation. We are therefore Christ's ambassadors, as though God were making his appeal through us. We implore you on Christ's behalf: Be reconciled to God" (2 Corinthians 5:18-20). SHARE THE WORD; KEEP THE WORD As called members of the church, God has given us twin directives to guide our mission of preaching the gospel: share the Word with the world and keep the Word for the world. Our calling as the church is to preach the gospel. However, the call to preach the gospel is like a two-sided coin. One aspect of preaching the gospel is sharing the Word and promises of God with both the lost and the found. But on the other side of the coin, preaching the gospel also means to keep the Word for the world. As the Bible encourages us: "Watch your life and doctrine closely" (1 Timothy 4:16). "Be ready always to give an answer" (1 Peter 3:15; KJV). "Rightly dividing the word of truth" (2 Timothy 2:15; KJV). Christ did not intend for us to have only one side of the coin or the other. They are two different aspects of the same call. Christ wants us to both share the Word and keep the Word so that both we and our hearers be saved. God called us from eternity to be his children. God calls us in time to live as his sons and daughters in the roles and stations where he placed us in the world. But we have another calling too. This calling again is one of pure grace; and again, it is a calling to fulfill the purpose God has for us. He calls us to be his church—that is our calling for the world. Contributing editor Jonathan Schroeder is pastor at Faith, Sharpsburg, Georgia. This is the fifth article in an eight-part series on our calling. I've added another (4th article), to illuminate just what Israel means. Both as nation and church. I put in bold the pertinent part to the article and the former articles as well.
"And so the escalation-cum-provocation-cum false flag is complete. There was a time when shooting down a foreign jet over one's territory was considered self-defense. But not when the one doing the defending is perpetual media bogeyman Syria, which "unnamed sources say" kills hundreds, nay thousands of its own people daily, usually in round, soundbitey numbers." Anything starting out to explain the Jewish Homeland fostered by the 1916 Sykes Picot Agreement, augmented by the Churchill 1921 Cairo Conference, furthered by the Balfour declaration 1926 , and cemented with the POTUS LBJ calling back the fighters to the USS Saratoga to leave the USS Liberty at the mercy of Israeli full on attack.... Anything starting out with: 'As the Bible describes' is full on bat shite crazyland.....;}
Next steps: 1. NATO issues formal complaint, with open-ended demands. 2. Russia, then China, respond in kind. 3. Geopolitical risk goes offerless.
War for the Jews stays on perpetual track to Samson Option....;}
I have no doubt that anything to do with the Gospel is "crazyland" to you. You have planks over your eyes and your heart is stone cold. May our Lord and Savior have mercy on you.
Sun, 06/24/2012 - 10:14 | 2555498 Azannoth Azannoth's picture From wikipedia "..As of 2008, 631 Phantoms remained in active service worldwide, while the Phantom also remains in use as a target drone operated by the U.S. military." - maybe that unarmed solo fligh didn't even have a pilot? just wondering
This thread is a Bible Study. It was posted as such. It is meant to help other Christians see the folly of misinterpreting what Israel should mean to Christians as a whole.
And THAT would explain the USSA of a VietNam era jet. ;}
I would appreciate it if you could focus on the topic.
May our Lord and Savior have mercy on you. Me and the Lord Saviour are tight thank you very much....;} While dates are hard and fast....;} Of which you supply very little. Power trumps Religion always. The Sweet Baby Jesus understands completely.
I doubt very much that you read what was posted. And if you believe human power trumps the Christian religion. You have quite an awakening in store.
Title: Three Articles that help explain Israel I'm right on the topic....;} Title: Three Articles that help explain Israel I'm explaining how Israel perpetuates the perpetual war for the Jews. And the latest salvos to provide Israel with all the cover it needs....;}
This thread, as I stated before is about BIBLE STUDY. Why don't you stay with your own thread, unless you have biblical notes to back your thesis.
Sure I did. After you put down: 'As the bible describes...' together with your title: 'Title: Three Articles that help explain Israel' I just brought it up to date. June 7, 2012 Anniversary of the attack on the USS Liberty....like that....;}
There is nothing of the Gospel in what you have posted to back your contention.
O yeah, and mine: LF McGowanjm wire is about Current Events. I'll make you and your bible study mates a deal. You keep your holy roller ziofundy bible cartoons off my thread and I'll stauy away from yours.... And unless and until you do....well....here I am..... Me and you and the sweet baby hesus.....;}
Sure there is: 'Blessed are the peacemakers' 'Blessed are the poor' 'Blessed are the meek' ;}
I don't post anything on your thread. Why don't you try treating individuals as they treat you, instead of lumping people together?
The Roots of Christian Zionism sowed by Scofield The Roots of Christian Zionism sowed by Scofield from Chuck Coty on Vimeo.
I am more interested in Christians who have either misunderstood the clear scripture on just what Israel is/means, or have purposefully warped what the Bible has to say. So many Christians have bought in to the Israel propaganda and seem unwilling to look at what the Gospel actually says. (Yes, the fallout of such misunderstanding is politically clear).
I'll listen to more of this video later. I only caught a little bit of it for now. But yes, clearly Dispensationalism is contrary to various clear and explicit Bible statements and based on misinterpretations of several Bible prophecies (mostly in the Old Testament).
You have planks over your eyes and your heart is stone cold. Jimmy's mad at God...Because the Free Will he's given man has been abused (by listening too much to the whispers of Satan). Thus, Jimmy's (ironically) agree to do Satan's bidding. As "revenge". If THAT isn't crazy, what is?? May our Lord and Savior have mercy on you. That depends on Jimmy humbling hilsef, doesn't it?
The Dark hates the Light.
JM's resistance of the beast you worship is truly the work of the Lord. Jesus, afterall, was a rebel.
Sorry, I failed to ping you to #24
So...It's your contention that God is to blame for JM's rejection of God...and worship of Satan? Wanna clarify?
No God, no Satan. One can't exist without the other. So when is God going to do domething about this Satan person? Waiting...waiting...waiting...
I guess God doesn't think this would be as interesting a place without ole Satan here to mix things up a little.
Ha. The last thing that needs to happen is for the gods to pull up this planets file for review. It won't be pretty when it happens.
Never swear "allegiance" to anything other than the 'right to change your mind'!
A self-evident truth.
Yeah, I s'pose a little diversity never hurt anyone.
Btw, I believe in a creator. I'm just not sure of his religious affiliation.
First....It's Mister Jimmie to you, Lib...;} Second...not mad at anyone....I don't get mad...I get even. Your god(s) fucked up the planet they created. Planet Hell. Second....It's ONLY free will until us 30 year long(period of Independence from ancestor fuckups and senility;) mortals decide that it IS PLANET HELL and act accordingly.... and then your vengeful god(d) who fucked this place up and created us decide to send us to the ETERNAL Burning tire Junk pile.... That's your god? Fuck him.....;}
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That depends on the nature of "doing something"... Do you mean eliminate Satan? That'll be after the Second Coming....Until then, the Evil of Satan is becoming increasingly stronger during his last days (which is upon us).... For now Satan is given a free shot at whispering in your ear about sinning, reed, being your own god, etc., and ignoring Jesus' offer of Eternal Life (see John 3:16). So for now you have your own FREE WILL to do as you please. Choose wisely. No God, no Satan. One can't exist without the other. Yes, both exist. And so do demons. We see God in some people AND the Devil - THAT much is clear even to an Un-Believer.
Will you pass The Almighty's test and humble yourself? Or succumb to your nature and the lies of Satan? The REALLY "interesting" place will be God's Heaven - and its unimaginable glory. The OTHER place - not so much. Imagine spending ALL Eternity with THE worst of human elements.
It won't be pretty when it happens. That's called 'Judgment Day'. When the Book of Life is opened, and the record of EVERY SINGLE moment of your life is recorded (we have ALL sinned) it won't be pretty. THE Big Question: Will *your* name be there? Or will Jesus Christ testify on your behalf? God will NOT allow sinners NOT cleansed by the Blood of Jesus (that's everyone, btw) into His Kingdom (barring special circumstances that ONLY He knows).
Only if you let it consume your soul.
Close, but NO cigar come Judgment Day. You may want to refine your belief and invest in the destination of your soul. Just sayin'...
Don't forget to give him a tract. I'm sure he's interested after your ... ugh, blather.
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ou have planks over your eyes and your heart is stone cold.
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I would appreciate it if you could focus on the topic.
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This thread, as I stated before is about BIBLE STUDY.
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There is nothing of the Gospel in what you have posted to back your contention.
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I have no doubt that anything to do with the Gospel is "crazyland" to you.
#23. To: SJN, mcgowanjm (#18)
I don't post anything on your thread. Why don't you try treating individuals as they treat you, instead of lumping people together?
#24. To: Liberator (#22)
#25. To: mcgowanjm (#17)
#26. To: Logsplitter (#24)
JM's resistance of the beast you worship is truly the work of the Lord.
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#28. To: Logsplitter (#27)
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So when is God going to do domething about this Satan person?
#29. To: Logsplitter (#27)
So when is God going to do domething about this Satan person? Waiting...waiting...waiting...
#30. To: Logsplitter (#27)
One can't exist without the other.
#31. To: NewsJunky (#28)
#32. To: Liberator (#26)
#33. To: Liberator, All (#22)
Jimmy's mad at God..Because the Free Will he's given
#34. To: Logsplitter (#24)
JM's resistance of the beast you worship is truly the work of the Lord. Jesus, afterall, was a rebel.
#35. To: Logsplitter, Redleghunter (#27)
So when is God going to do domething about this Satan person? Waiting...waiting...waiting...
#36. To: NewsJunky, Logsplitter (#28)
I guess God doesn't think this would be as interesting a place without ole Satan here to mix things up a little.
#37. To: Brian S, Logsplitter (#29)
Ha. The last thing that needs to happen is for the gods to pull up this planets file for review.
#38. To: Logsplitter (#31)
Yeah, I s'pose a little diversity never hurt anyone.
#39. To: Logsplitter (#32)
Btw, I believe in a creator. I'm just not sure of his religious affiliation.
#40. To: Liberator (#39)
Say hello to your grandma for me.
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