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Title: Rowdee You Are Confirmed So are you Anonymous something, sorry for the delay
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Published: Jun 22, 2012
Author: The Big Stone
Post Date: 2012-06-22 21:11:46 by A K A Stone
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Views: 57930
Comments: 109

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#1. To: A K A Stone, Moderator X, Rowdee (#0)

Moderator X, you know what to do about kicking Stone's ass for being late on any project.

Rowdee, welcome back!

buckeroo  posted on  2012-06-22   21:21:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: A K A Stone (#0)

Welcome,Rowdee! Good to see you.

"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011

Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs

Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter.

sneakypete  posted on  2012-06-22   21:58:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Rowdee (#0)

Welcome to ... uh ...here.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2012-06-22   23:00:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Fred Mertz, Rowdee (#3)

Rowdee loves us, Fred. I am praying she scolds you. You need her advise. Gambling on horse racing and TLBSHOW. She is going to charge into your fantasies of wealth.

buckeroo  posted on  2012-06-22   23:10:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: buckeroo (#4)

Somehow I think she likes horse racing and thoroughbreds. I don't know about Tubby.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2012-06-22   23:24:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Fred Mertz (#5)

Somehow I think she likes horse racing and thoroughbreds.

I should have saved the many pages of unamused's FU. Hindsight seems so apropos for most of us, however.

buckeroo  posted on  2012-06-22   23:32:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: buckeroo (#6)

I liked FU while it lasted. Oh, well.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2012-06-22   23:36:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Fred Mertz (#7)

Weird, isn't it? I guess this stuff becomes tiring, even for the best of us.

buckeroo  posted on  2012-06-22   23:38:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: buckeroo (#8)

Yes, it is slow and often boring. I see yukon is ankle biting at Clyven on elPee; the mensa Clyven.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2012-06-22   23:41:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Fred Mertz, A K A Stone (#9)

I was told by Stone that I am "Clyven" and I racked yukon, BUTT GOOD! Strange, that he thinks that way.

buckeroo  posted on  2012-06-22   23:45:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: buckeroo (#10)

Stone is a Taliban Christian - if that's possible.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2012-06-22   23:48:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: buckeroo (#10)

Stone was in Daytona last week soaking up the [fill in the blank]

Fred Mertz  posted on  2012-06-22   23:49:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Fred Mertz (#12)

Was the culture superior in the 50's and 80's or now?

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-06-22   23:52:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: A K A Stone (#13)

The Beaver Cleaver 60s were superior. His dad always wore a tie. And his mom...wow!!

Fred Mertz  posted on  2012-06-22   23:56:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Fred Mertz (#14)

Yeah, there was no Internet in those days. The good ol' days!

buckeroo  posted on  2012-06-22   23:57:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: buckeroo (#15)

I really liked Eddie Haskel. He was one wise ass for the ages.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2012-06-23   0:00:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: buckeroo (#15)

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-06-23   0:02:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Fred Mertz (#16)

Here is where TV changed and helped turn many Americans into degenerates. This show said Divorce is ok to our detriment. It brainwashed many. Some think this is a good values show. It isn't.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-06-23   0:05:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: A K A Stone (#18)

I watched it a few times but I wasn't a fan.

The eldest son screwed the mom off stage and the dad was some sort of drug user and homo - is that correct?

The youngest blonde girl had some sort of scandal if I recall correctly.

The Little Rascals were my faves as a kid. But I'm showing my age.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2012-06-23   0:10:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: A K A Stone (#18)

Here is where TV changed and helped turn many Americans into degenerates.

Remember when the married couples slept in separate beds?

Years ago I read/skimmed the 'standards of TV' for lack of remembering the proper terminology. It was spooky.

They call it programming and that is what it is. They program your mind.

I always thought Wheaties would make me a better athlete but my Dad bought us puffed rice and puffed wheat in those 19 cents bags. I could'a been a superstar!

But no.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2012-06-23   0:18:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: A K A Stone (#0)

Thank you for the okaying the account and for the welcome.

Hopefully, I can add something to some of the conversations here.

rowdee  posted on  2012-06-23   0:35:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: buckeroo (#1)

Thank you for the welcome back.........it has been a very long time. I feel a bit 'rusty'. LOL.

rowdee  posted on  2012-06-23   0:36:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: sneakypete (#2)

Thanks, Sneaky,

I don't know how much I'll add to anything, but I will try.

rowdee  posted on  2012-06-23   0:37:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Fred Mertz (#3)

Thanks, Fred, for the welcome to, uh, here! Have you been keeping up with the ponies? I have, sort of.

rowdee  posted on  2012-06-23   0:38:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: buckeroo (#4)

Although I took myself off the boards for a few years, that doesn't mean that I haven't sort of kept track of some of the old haunts. Sort of like keeping up with old acquaintances.

rowdee  posted on  2012-06-23   0:42:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: rowdee (#24)

Have you been keeping up with the ponies?

I glance at them but there are too many to keep up wiff.

I think something crooked happened with I'll Have Another. I don't know what but that is what I think.

The overseas ones are the little headlines over here: Frankel and Black Caviar.

I picked Union Rags to win the Preakness but I didn't bet him. How dumb is that?

Good to see you!

Fred Mertz  posted on  2012-06-23   0:43:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: buckeroo, Fred Mertz (#6)

I did, and still do, love thoroughbreds, and horse racing, so I couldn't come down hard on Fred...unless of course he made a REALLY dumb bet or something like that!

And FU was a lot of fun for a long time, but after the big blow up, it as never the same. I tried a time or two to go back, but to no avail. I really liked Brett (unamused),but seems like when Scott died, he lost all interest in it.

While I went to 4um, it never had the pizazz for me. I didn't post nearly as much as I had previously.

When it reached the point that I said 'enough, I wanted to be away for a long time. I needed to come to terms with a lot of stuff. I didn't need the vile drivel and/or every conspiracy theory under the sun consuming any of my time.

rowdee  posted on  2012-06-23   0:52:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: rowdee (#27)

I needed to come to terms with a lot of stuff.

You and me bofe. I'm going through some stuff myself. We'll bofe make it, I know it.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2012-06-23   0:57:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: Fred Mertz (#26)

I won't laugh at your Union Rags pick if you won't laugh at my Gemologist for the Derby!

I was a Zenyatta fan..and now follow her and her Bernardini colts' antics.

I've tried doing a virtual stable thing for about a month now. Am mostly interested in fillies. Am excited to see how Z's sister Eblouissante does when she races her first time--supposed to be by the end of the Hollywood meet.

Well, Frankel and Black Caviar are the big news right now. That Frankil is a freak. BC is probably the best sprinter ever or at least in modern history.

Personally, I think the racing industry is trying to make itself meaningless...witness the stupidy of how NY handled the Belmont; and how the California HR Board did their stupid announcement. And now KY coming out with a ruling on Salix, with NY doing the reverse, so who the hell knows. I do know I read research papers and came away thinking it isn't a big deal.

rowdee  posted on  2012-06-23   1:06:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: rowdee (#21)

Hopefully, I can add something to some of the conversations here.

There is no doubt about that.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-06-23   9:16:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: buckeroo Fred Mertz (#4)

Gambling on horse racing and TLBSHOW

Fred,PLEASE tell me you aren't laying bets on TLBSHOW! He's so fat even I could probably outrun him,and I have COPD.

"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011

Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs

Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter.

sneakypete  posted on  2012-06-23   9:53:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: Fred Mertz (#26)

I think something crooked happened with I'll Have Another.

Something crooked happened with horse racing?

Nobody will ever believe that.

"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011

Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs

Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter.

sneakypete  posted on  2012-06-23   9:56:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: rowdee (#29)

Top Australian racehorse Black Caviar came halfway around the world and proved herself on the international stage June 23, remaining unbeaten in 22 starts with victory by a short head in the $775,000 Diamond Jubilee Stakes (Eng-I) at Royal Ascot.

She won a close one! A win is a win.

http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing/articles/70762/black-caviar-just-holds-in-ascot-nail-biter

Fred Mertz  posted on  2012-06-23   12:40:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: sneakypete (#32)

Something crooked happened with horse racing?

Yes, apparently all sports with big money involved are eligible for graft, cheating and corruption - not just horse racing. Of course all sports try to maintain a 'clean' product, they're just not always successful at it.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2012-06-23   12:44:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: rowdee (#29)

Black Caviar's jockey misjudged the finish line and eased her up before she hit the wire. Lucky for him she won regardless.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2012-06-23   13:05:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: A K A Stone, Rowdee (#0)

Welcome to LF, Rowdee, it is good to see you posting again, you have been missed. ;)

"A friend will calm you down when you are angry, but a best friend will skip beside you with a baseball bat singing, "someone's gonna get it"

Murron  posted on  2012-06-23   16:26:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: Fred Mertz (#33)

Yeah, I heard about that. i read where her jockey eased up--no doubt thinking she was uncatchable the last couple of strides....that kid should read the Shoe's story about the Derby loss!

rowdee  posted on  2012-06-23   18:00:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: Murron (#36)

Thank you for the welcome back.

rowdee  posted on  2012-06-23   18:01:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: rowdee (#25)

Although I took myself off the boards for a few years, that doesn't mean that I haven't sort of kept track of some of the old haunts.

A lot of us loved your posts. Why did you leave?

buckeroo  posted on  2012-06-23   18:15:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: rowdee (#38)

Lol, i always thought you were another screennname of muuron's. Couldn't tell the difference. Doesn't bode well but do what you can

.
Whatcha lookin' at, butthead
Say hello to your grandma for me.

Biff Tannen  posted on  2012-06-23   20:05:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: buckeroo (#39)

You have mail--it isn't worth a big write-up.

rowdee  posted on  2012-06-23   20:20:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: Biff Tannen (#40)

Sorry I don't recognize your name. Were you ever at TOS, KP (TOS2), FU, 4UM, or LF?

What were you on when you had thoughts that Murron and I were one in the same? LOL.....not too many people I know would ever have thought along those lines.

rowdee  posted on  2012-06-23   20:23:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: rowdee (#42)

To be honest i don't pay that much attention to things! Lol

.
Whatcha lookin' at, butthead
Say hello to your grandma for me.

Biff Tannen  posted on  2012-06-23   20:41:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: rowdee, jwpegler, Fred Mertz (#42)

Sorry I don't recognize your name. Were you ever at TOS, KP (TOS2), FU, 4UM, or LF?

Holy Smokes! I just searched an archive of LF...

Profile for JWPegler

Email Name >Title rebel >Total Posts 1110 Fame 50 Homepage Occupation Hobbies Location Bio ICQ Number Sponsor Registered on 01/18/03 04:15 AM Favorite Threads

JW -

Just so you know, my highest rating on LF was -25. No wonder there are worlds of differences with us.

buckeroo  posted on  2012-06-23   20:48:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: rowdee, Moderator X (#41)

You have mail--it isn't worth a big write-up.

We all have issues and on this forum, the real jerk is some guy named "AKA Stone." That is why we have Moderator X to watch him. Moderator X is paid up in advance, too. Moderator X shall survive long after we all pass away, too, long after the REAL LF took a dump.

buckeroo  posted on  2012-06-23   20:54:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: buckeroo (#45)

Moderator X is your father.

.
Whatcha lookin' at, butthead
Say hello to your grandma for me.

Biff Tannen  posted on  2012-06-23   21:50:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: Biff Tannen (#46)

Silent but deadly.

buckeroo  posted on  2012-06-23   21:58:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: buckeroo, rowdee, A K A Stone (#45)

"We all have issues and on this forum, the real jerk is some guy named "AKA Stone." That is why we have Moderator X to watch him. Moderator X is paid up in advance, too. Moderator X shall survive long after we all pass away, too, long after the REAL LF took a dump."

"A friend will calm you down when you are angry, but a best friend will skip beside you with a baseball bat singing, "someone's gonna get it"

Murron  posted on  2012-06-23   22:19:52 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: A K A Stone, Fred Mertz (#18) (Edited)

This show (The Brady Bunch) said Divorce is ok to our detriment. It brainwashed many. Some think this is a good values show. It isn't.

Maybe you could try doing some actual research before getting on your high-horse and pontificating to the rest of us.

Plot summary

Mike Brady (Robert Reed), widowed architect with sons Greg (Barry Williams), Peter (Christopher Knight) and Bobby (Mike Lookinland), marries Carol Ann Martin (née Tyler) (Florence Henderson), whose daughters are Marcia (Maureen McCormick), Jan (Eve Plumb) and Cindy (Susan Olsen).

The wife and daughters take the Brady surname. Producer Schwartz wanted Carol to have been a divorcée but the network objected to this.

A compromise was reached whereby no mention was made of the circumstances in which Carol's first marriage ended.

“America is at that awkward stage; it's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards.”---Claire Wolfe

Bill D Berger  posted on  2012-06-23   23:25:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: Bill D Berger (#49)

Thanks Billdo.

They still think you're Infowarrior and it makes me laugh to this day.

An architect, really? That explains a lot.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2012-06-23   23:29:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: Bill D Berger (#49)

I just noticed your edit now re: divorcee.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2012-06-23   23:31:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: Bill D Berger (#49)

Maybe you could try doing some actual research before getting on your high-horse and pontificating to the rest of us.

Plot summary

Mike Brady (Robert Reed), widowed architect with sons Greg (Barry Williams), Peter (Christopher Knight) and Bobby (Mike Lookinland), marries Carol Ann Martin (née Tyler) (Florence Henderson), whose daughters are Marcia (Maureen McCormick), Jan (Eve Plumb) and Cindy (Susan Olsen).

The wife and daughters take the Brady surname. Producer Schwartz wanted Carol to have been a divorcée but the network objected to this.

A compromise was reached whereby no mention was made of the circumstances in which Carol's first marriage ended.

Damn. You told me.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-06-23   23:39:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: A K A Stone (#52)

Damn. You told me.

Sorry, I didn't mean to be so blunt about it, but there are plenty of shows that have contributed to the downfall of American society that are more subversive than Brady Bunch.

All in The Family, Family Guy, Married With Children, Roseanne are some of the worst of the lot.

“America is at that awkward stage; it's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards.”---Claire Wolfe

Bill D Berger  posted on  2012-06-24   0:24:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: Bill D Berger (#53)

I liked the Brady Bunch. They had good values on the show. But it seemed to me to send a message under the radar that said divorce is ok. Perhaps I was wrong.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-06-24   8:23:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: Bill D Berger (#53)

All in The Family, Family Guy, Married With Children

All three were GREAT shows.

"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011

Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs

Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter.

sneakypete  posted on  2012-06-24   11:22:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: sneakypete, Bill D Berger (#55) (Edited)

(All in The Family, Family Guy, Married With Children)

All three were GREAT shows.

'All in the Family' wuz great - until it began getting too PC...Just like MASH.

IMO the Family Guy is too vulgar and subversive. That's just me.

Married with Children had its funny/sarcastic moments...but again, I think overall it's glorification of classlessness, irreverence for shock-value sake, and vulgarity attributed to the devolution and acceptance of disrespect for young AND old people alike - and our culture in general.

'Roseanne' may have been one of THE worst shows ever. It represented the promotion and agenda of the WORST possible traits of our culture - it was vulgar, low-rent, white-trash, perverted and irreverent of virtue.

IOW, Leftist propaganda, plain and simple.

Liberator  posted on  2012-06-24   12:14:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: A K A Stone (#18)

The Brady Bunch was Disney-on-Saccharin compared to today's shows.

It demonstrated good values and lessons, IMO.

Liberator  posted on  2012-06-24   12:15:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: Liberator, , (#56)

IMO, there were several things which contributed to the current downward spiral we're facing.

First and foremost was when the S/C (government) said it was OK for the nurturers of society to kill their young. That put -0- value on life. Period.

Second was LBJs "Great Society"...the one that really put blacks on the plantation and pulled in a great number of whites, too. They encouraged women with the idea they didn't need a husband, that children didn't need fathers. That goverment would provide housing, food, medical, and other necessary things.

This extended to young girls in high school--the massive outbreak of out of wedlock births can be attributed here, I believe, when you consider the girls always had the 'government will take care of me' option if the guy they gave into didn't really 'love' them. They could play the role of head of house/home maker...be their own boss.

That, and them not getting the love and attention at home--which brings up @3.

Third was all levels of governement needing more and more $$$ to feed their bigtime programs, which meant that mommies had to go to work to help make ends meet--especially when taxation was competing with the family's deisre to own more and more goodies, to keep up with the Jones, so to speak.

#2 and #3 brought about the idea of 'entitlement'

Fourth, and on down the line would come the performing arts, fine arts, and other entertainment. All wanting to be on the cutting edge were actually trying to be a bit more outrageous/anything goes than the next movie, program, literary work, or 'work' of art.

All of these play to the baser nature of mankind. And it has been quite effective in reducing the morals and values of this once great nation to what we see today....whether it is in your face homosexuals, or teenagers on a school bus, or wall street crooks, the Kevorkians, the Susan Smiths, the Jerry Sanduskys, child murderers--what else can you expect from a society who diesn't have a problem killing the most innocent beings?

LBJs

rowdee  posted on  2012-06-24   13:22:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: rowdee, ALL (#58)

TREMENDOUS case-by-case summary of the Poisoning of America.

BRAVO!

Liberator  posted on  2012-06-24   13:39:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#60. To: Liberator, rowdee (#59)

rowdee performed a good post but it doesn't get into "root cause" of the historical facts.

WW2 destroyed America's financial and social institutions. While America was a GREAT nation for a bit of time, the rest of the world rose up to compete with our failures. America became a wasteland of toxicity not because of Stone's dismay about the Brady Bunch but BECAUSE AMERICA TURNED ON THE TELEVISION SET to begin with.

The rest is history. We are a failed nation by own successes.

buckeroo  posted on  2012-06-24   13:49:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: rowdee (#58)

First and foremost was when the S/C (government) said it was OK for the nurturers of society to kill their young. That put -0- value on life. Period.

Second was LBJs "Great Society"...the one that really put blacks on the plantation and pulled in a great number of whites, too. They encouraged women with the idea they didn't need a husband, that children didn't need fathers. That goverment would provide housing, food, medical, and other necessary things.

Just reiterating just two MAJOR cases from whence we lost our way as a nation. And they just happen to be MORAL issues that walk hand-in-hand:

1) Making acceptable (and lawful) Accepting the MURDER of PRE-BORNS as "birth control".

2) Foisting LBJ's Great Sugar Daddy Society upon American Culture, of which de-stabilized and ripped off the working class as a whole and relieved parasites and deadbeats of any financial responsibility of raising a family (that would now be Big Goob-Daddy's Job).

3) AWOL daddies and whores would then be de-stigmatized while helping UTTERLY DESTROY the Black Family to the tune of a 75% father-less family rate.

Is it any wonder many young Black Americans act as raging lunatics? This is the direct backlash of a society (including their own "leadership)) who sabotaged THEM.

Liberator  posted on  2012-06-24   13:51:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: buckeroo, rowdee, A K A Stone (#60)

rowdee performed a good post but it doesn't get into "root cause" of the historical facts.

WW2 destroyed America's financial and social institutions. While America was a GREAT nation for a bit of time, the rest of the world rose up to compete with our failures. America became a wasteland of toxicity not because of Stone's dismay about the Brady Bunch but BECAUSE AMERICA TURNED ON THE TELEVISION SET to begin with.

The rest is history. We are a failed nation by own successes.

How far back did you want him to go? How about 1913??

Rowdee NAILED EXACTLY when the wheels fell off the nation: 1965.

WW2 destroyed America's financial and social institutions. While America was a GREAT nation for a bit of time, the rest of the world rose up to compete with our failures. America became a wasteland of toxicity not because of Stone's dismay about the Brady Bunch but BECAUSE AMERICA TURNED ON THE TELEVISION SET to begin with.

WWII ushered in the Shadow Governance of a New World Order.

ANY international "competition" was financed BY American taxpayer while American technical innovations were bought off or sabotaged by corporations AND agents of Shadow Goob elites.

America became a wasteland because it's Moral Foundation was undermined by Leftists, Commies, and Elites who realized ONLY THEN could America be defeated by the collusive efforts *from within*

This includes THE "ENTERTAINMENT INDUSTRY, THE MEDIA, THE ACADEME, and the PSYCHIATRIC INDUSTRY.

Liberator  posted on  2012-06-24   14:01:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#63. To: rowdee (#58)

his extended to young girls in high school--the massive outbreak of out of wedlock births can be attributed here

I would attribute more to the decay of the inner city=ies due to the flight of jobs and opportunities. This hurt men the most and their ability to support the mother.

NewsJunky  posted on  2012-06-24   14:26:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#64. To: All (#63)

I should also add that the forces of suburbanization contributed to the flight of jobs from the the cities

NewsJunky  posted on  2012-06-24   14:33:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#65. To: Liberator (#56)

All in the Family' wuz great - until it began getting too PC...Just like MASH.

I always saw it as making fun of PC,being aware the whole time there are two faces of PC,the more common leftist one,and the right-wing one that ignores reality. We all have our sore spots that embarrass us. Well,those of us on the right,do. The left is incapable of being embarrassed.

IMO the Family Guy is too vulgar and subversive. That's just me.

I think Stewie and the alcoholic dog are hilarious. What I hate is the fact that just like almost every other tv show,the father figure is a buffoon barely smart enough to pick his own nose. I do love the fact he has a Boston accent,though. That makes it sort of believable he really could be that stupid.

Married with Children had its funny/sarcastic moments...but again, I think overall it's glorification of classlessness, irreverence for shock-value sake, and vulgarity attributed to the devolution and acceptance of disrespect for young AND old people alike - and our culture in general.

I think it was a semi-accurate account OF present day American family life,and Al was clearly an American hero. He represented "everyman". No matter how much his life sucked or his family disrespected and ignored him,he still got up out of bed every day and did the best circumstances would allow him to do to provide for his family. Anybody that doesn't claim to know a real-life Bundy family just hasn't been paying attention.

Roseanne' may have been one of THE worst shows ever.

I wouldn't know. I could never tolerate much more than 30 seconds of the braying stupidity of the oxygen thief that was the show "star",so I never watched it.

So much for the stereotype that all Jews are smart.

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sneakypete  posted on  2012-06-24   16:00:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#66. To: rowdee (#58)

Second was LBJs "Great Society"...the one that really put blacks on the plantation and pulled in a great number of whites, too. They encouraged women with the idea they didn't need a husband, that children didn't need fathers. That goverment would provide housing, food, medical, and other necessary things.

THE greatest tragedy of the 20th Century. Even more damaging than WW-2,because WW-2 was about governments,and the alleged War on Poverty and the Civil Wrongs Act of 1964 especially were direct attacks on families,neighborhoods,and American culture itself.

And make no mistake about it,American culture is directly responsible for the majority of the population of the planet Earth living free and fed today. We really WERE what everybody else wanted to be.

Now we are a sick joke whose education system falls behind that of former Soviet block countries thanks to the fact that not only are students taught lies (We are NOT a democracy!) but students can't be failed and minority teachers can't be fired. Yet we throw billions at our school system to have them do the same things they are doing now and expect to see improvements.

We don't even have neighborhoods anymore,thanks to things like bussing. There is no sense of community anywhere.

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sneakypete  posted on  2012-06-24   16:08:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#67. To: buckeroo (#60)

IMO, we found out via WWII that women could work outside the home where their traditional role had them as the base of society. For a single woman that wouldn't present much of a problem. But for a wife and mother, there had to be compromises.

I haven't looked at employment figures between WWII and Korea, but I would venture to say it wasn't chalk full of women.

But with WWII over, men began using the GI bill for educating themselves for better jobs meaning a step up in society. More money meant spending more for the house with the white picket fence, a 2-car garage, yada yada.

This, in turn, saw the working tradesmen class attempting to keep up while at about the same time government at all levels were spending like drunken sailors who just got a months pay and a dime store in which to spend it all.

Taxation began taking a chunk out of family income making it harder and harder to raise a family in the style most people wanted on a single wage earners pay. This required Dad to take a second job or for the woman to take on a job.

Taking on a job was not just an 8 - 5 proposition for a woman. Besides that, she also cooked, cleaned, grocery shopped, clothing shopped, bathed kids, did whatever ironing the family needed. Not to mention that she was still to be the sex goddess for her husband.

She was too frazzled and worn out to be chief disciplinarian and educator--enter the TELEVISION--the grand old babysitter! Cartoons with some character, animal or human, beating up on some other character.

Not so many years later, along came Pacman and Videomania! Parents had no clue; kids loved this blood and gore simulation crap.

Along with abortion came easy to get divorces, wimmens libs.

And all the while, government minions are scurriously working to get God out of the center of society. After all, we can't have any morals or ethics to interfere with what Satan's minions want.

rowdee  posted on  2012-06-24   16:24:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#68. To: buckeroo (#60)

WW2 destroyed America's financial and social institutions.

No,it didn't. In fact,it CREATED America as an industrial giant. We got rich supplying war supplies to warring nations early,and then got even richer supplying the materials to rebuild a world bombed into rubble.

Only a fool could think those conditions could or would exist forever,and they didn't. Eventually,thanks to our own loans and special import deals,our former enemies rebuilt their homes and industry,and started selling their newly manufactured goods to us. Our politicians allowed them special deals on import fees to help them get on their feet,and after all this we act surprised when American industry starts to slow down and we blame Eisenhower for the recession of 58.

And proving we don't learn,we went through this again when all our industries were moved offshore due to over-regulation,taxes,and unions. Yeah,the stocks went up and idiots were smiling ear to ear as they said "This will last forever! Money for nothing,and your chicks for free!". More recently these same idiots were weeping into their wheeties and sobbing about how their lives are over because their stocks crashed.

And oddly enough it never seems to occur to these people that money is NEVER "lost" on Wall Street. If somebody loses it,you can be sure somebody else just "found" it. People like Soros,who manipulate the markets to cause the prices to rise and fall so they can make a profit on both ends. Wasn't it Soros that bankrupted the Bank of England and made a couple of Billion dollars doing it?

As those great American prophets Sonny and Cher used to sing,...."And the beat goes on,and the beat goes on."

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sneakypete  posted on  2012-06-24   16:24:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#69. To: Liberator, rowdee (#61)

1) Making acceptable (and lawful) Accepting the MURDER of PRE-BORNS as "birth control".

Just to be more accurate here,abortions have only been illegal or prosecuted in recent times. LOTS of deformed babies were smothered at birth back in the days of mid-wifes,and a lot of babies were just left abandoned on doorsteps or even in fields by women who lost their husbands for various reasons,or who didn't have a man to support them and the child.

Yet we still evolved to a point were very few of the babies that would have been smothered at birth a century ago don't make it to adulthood.

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sneakypete  posted on  2012-06-24   16:28:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#70. To: Liberator (#61)

Is it any wonder many young Black Americans act as raging lunatics? This is the direct backlash of a society (including their own "leadership)) who sabotaged THEM.

Their leaders for the most part, are pathetic. And I don't hold their parent (s) in much higher regard, either.

I come from a very poor backgruond. But let me tell you, had my brothers or I done the stuff many of these kids do, either of my parents would have torn us a new one. Cops or no cops!

If they had my Mom, they'd have had their asses switched good with a willow branch, backs of their legs, too......ears pulled off and mouth washed with the worst soap she could find.

Had we ever acted the way those kids did on that school bus, we'd still be standing up sleeping!!

Did we do stuff wrong? You bet we did.....but nothing on the magnitude of what is done today. And we knew we were wrong and elected to do the wrong knowing we'd get our asses whupped. I much preferred doing good in school and sleeping flat in my bed at night.

When my kid brother was involved with a theft, he was punished...and my parents paid restitution. He then worked it off for them.

rowdee  posted on  2012-06-24   16:42:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#71. To: Liberator (#62)

How far back did you want him to go?

"him" IS a "her".

rowdee  posted on  2012-06-24   16:44:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#72. To: NewsJunky (#64) (Edited)

The mobility of society certainly has played a major part in the breaking up of the family, and hence society. I failed to note anything about it.

I've been doing genealogy for many years now and came to the conclusion a long while back that mobility while industrializing the nation took a toll on the families.

My father left his parents and headed to Califronia as a young person looking for a better life--more jobs, more money. He returned to visit them, but never returned to live.

On the other hand, some of his brothers and sisters moved to California, only to return back to their roots.' ' But to return to the comments.....the Great Society said for a woman to get benefits there couldn't be a man in the house.

rowdee  posted on  2012-06-24   16:56:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#73. To: sneakypete (#66)

You're correct about the great tragedy that the Great Society brought about.

Its even had its hand in pitting the races against each other.

rowdee  posted on  2012-06-24   16:59:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#74. To: rowdee (#73)

Its even had its hand in pitting the races against each other.

It's called "divide and conquer". As long as we are busy fighting with each other we are both too busy to be paying attention to what the political class are doing TO us.

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sneakypete  posted on  2012-06-24   18:55:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#75. To: sneakypete (#65)

Roseanne' may have been one of THE worst shows ever.

I wouldn't know. I could never tolerate much more than 30 seconds of the braying stupidity of the oxygen thief that was the show "star",so I never watched it.

How could you even tolerate 30 seconds of that?

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nativist nationalist  posted on  2012-06-26   2:42:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#76. To: Liberator (#56)

'Roseanne' may have been one of THE worst shows ever. It represented the promotion and agenda of the WORST possible traits of our culture - it was vulgar, low-rent, white-trash, perverted and irreverent of virtue.

There for a second I thought you were talking about "Survivor"!!

Oh wait, you were.... LOL.....

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CZ82  posted on  2012-06-26   6:54:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#77. To: CZ82 (#76)

There for a second I thought you were talking about "Survivor"!!

Oh wait, you were.... LOL.....

HEH!

You may be right (from what little I've seen of it). Uggh....

Liberator  posted on  2012-06-26   11:27:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#78. To: nativist nationalist, sneakypete (#75)

How could you even tolerate 30 seconds of that?

'Roseanne was like watching a runaway train plunge off a cliff. VOILA! There's your 30 seconds!

(I felt like I had to shower after a minute)

Liberator  posted on  2012-06-26   11:30:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#79. To: rowdee (#71)

"him" IS a "her".

You?

Liberator  posted on  2012-06-26   11:31:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#80. To: sneakypete (#69)

Just to be more accurate here,abortions have only been illegal or prosecuted in recent times. LOTS of deformed babies were smothered at birth back in the days of mid-wifes,and a lot of babies were just left abandoned on doorsteps or even in fields by women who lost their husbands for various reasons,or who didn't have a man to support them and the child.

Yet we still evolved to a point were very few of the babies that would have been smothered at birth a century ago don't make it to adulthood.

Yes, but not to the tune of millions per year, nor were abortions an institutional, goob/society-sanctioned act. Abortions were performed behind closed doors for good reason: It was still a shameful act.

The truth is:

Abortion is used 99% of the time AS "Birth Control".

Liberator  posted on  2012-06-26   11:37:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#81. To: rowdee (#70)

Their [black] leaders for the most part, are pathetic. And I don't hold their parent (s) in much higher regard, either.

I come from a very poor backgruond. But let me tell you, had my brothers or I done the stuff many of these kids do, either of my parents would have torn us a new one. Cops or no cops!

If they had my Mom, they'd have had their asses switched good with a willow branch, backs of their legs, too......ears pulled off and mouth washed with the worst soap she could find.

Had we ever acted the way those kids did on that school bus, we'd still be standing up sleeping!!

Hear ya.

MY behavior (of lack thereof) was taken as a personal affront by my parents....and embarrassment.

Lack of economic status STILL didn't justify the lack of discipline within a family, school, society, OR culture.

During the Great Depression (especially in the cities), crime was TOTALLY under control.

Did we do stuff wrong? You bet we did.....but nothing on the magnitude of what is done today. And we knew we were wrong and elected to do the wrong knowing we'd get our asses whupped. I much preferred doing good in school and sleeping flat in my bed at night...When my kid brother was involved with a theft, he was punished...and my parents paid restitution. He then worked it off for them.

Therein lies THE difference between today and yesterday; Theft = Entitlement. And the socialists, politicians, psychiatrists, and media toons ALL agree the have-nots are "entitled" to their share of a pie THAT IS NOT THEIRS TO SHARE.

Liberator  posted on  2012-06-26   11:45:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#82. To: Liberator (#79)

Yup. :)

rowdee  posted on  2012-06-26   13:39:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#83. To: Liberator (#81)

During the Great Depression (especially in the cities), crime was TOTALLY under control.

LOL ...

In the 1930's there were two factors that made crime widespread:

One was the Great Depression, which made some people desperate for money and willing to do anything.

The second was Prohibition, this allowed organized crime to expand their operations to illegal bootlegging, a very bloody crime.

http://www.slideshare.net/ajc19091993/crime-in-the-1930s-1397796

and ...

The Great Depression was years of povery, starvation and crime in the US.

http://www.slideshare.net/guesswhatgracie/crime-in-the-1920s30s

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Biff Tannen  posted on  2012-06-26   13:53:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#84. To: Liberator (#81)

Therein lies THE difference between today and yesterday; Theft = Entitlement. And the socialists, politicians, psychiatrists, and media toons ALL agree the have-nots are "entitled" to their share of a pie THAT IS NOT THEIRS TO SHARE.

Sadly, I don't think it is all based on 'entitlement'.

Let me explain...

My Mother who would take my granddaughter during summer vacations always tried to instill good values and morals on the GD. One time they had gone to the grocery store and GD had wanted some chewing gum. Mom said not this time.

They finished shopping, paid, and went home. Within minutes of being home, GD pulls out gum. Mom asks where it came from. Finally comes out she just took it. So, off to the store they go with GD pleading couldn't they just put it back on the shelf.

Mom, wanting to make a lasting impression, said they were going to see what the manager of the store wanted to do, like call the police, or make her work it off, or whatever.

They get to the store; they go to the manager's office; GD holds out the gum while Mom explains what has happened. The clueless manager says, 'oh, thats OK, it happens all the time'!

My Mom was furious, and if you had mentioned gum to her the day before she died, she would have told you how mad she was about that teaching moment being tossed aside!

rowdee  posted on  2012-06-26   13:54:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#85. To: rowdee (#82)

Not that there's anything wrong with that.

;-)

Liberator  posted on  2012-06-26   14:46:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#86. To: Biff Tannen (#83)

In the 1930's there were two factors that made crime widespread:

One was the Great Depression, which made some people desperate for money and willing to do anything.

The second was Prohibition, this allowed organized crime to expand their operations to illegal bootlegging, a very bloody crime.

Crime was NOT "widespread," nor were anywhere the number of violent crimes committed during the depression or else there would have been Martial Law - DESPITE the desperation of the poor and hungry.

Prohibition was a victimless crime - except when it became a mob op and the payola made police/goob corruption rife. It was the precursor to the fake "war on drugs" that's made it so profitable...for corrupt alphabet agencies and again, mobs.

Btw:

a) Petty crimes don't count.

b) Talk to older people who lived during the time. There was NO wilding nor flash-mobs in the Big Cities, OR blatant merchandise theft by the general populace.

c) Though people were poor and STILL by and large didn't perform wholesale heists.

Liberator  posted on  2012-06-26   14:55:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#87. To: rowdee (#84)

Sadly, I don't think it is all based on 'entitlement'.

Let me explain...

Cute story...WRONG impression (unless we're discussing the issue the day before mom died) ;-)

BUT, better than if you had to drive back a new CAR back to the dealer...(ooops!)

Liberator  posted on  2012-06-26   15:00:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#88. To: Liberator (#86)

You insufferable twit.

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Biff Tannen  posted on  2012-06-26   15:17:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#89. To: Fred Mertz, A K A Stone (#19)

I watched it a few times but I wasn't a fan.

The eldest son screwed the mom off stage and the dad was some sort of drug user and homo - is that correct?

The youngest blonde girl had some sort of scandal if I recall correctly.

The Little Rascals were my faves as a kid. But I'm showing my age.

What is interesting, O'Reilly did a segment on the old 50s, 60s and 70s "family" TV shows a few months ago. He had some conservative media research dude come on and show how all the shows we thought were very American and very conservative actually had a Hollywood producer, director or writer put some underhanded progressive undertow in the plots. You got the Brady Bunch right, it told America being divorced was ok. It also highlighted Alice the maid who always seemed to be interested in finally finding Mr. Right but prefers to live in the basement running her own life. An underhanded way of promoting feminism. The offset "lifestyles" never made it on the show but was a sign of the times for Hollywood, which is usually 10 years or so ahead in the sin and depravity dept. The other one O'Reilly showcased was "Happy Days." On the surface it was "Leave it to Beaver" with a mid 50s golden age American family. One father, one mother and the kids belonged to both! But on the underside the show went to great lengths to show that the Cunninghams were square and obsolete in a rapidly modern era. The father was always bested by Fonzi, the James Dean knock off. The mother and children listened more to Fonzi with his broken home background than they did to dear ol hard working dad. Then in later episodes the dad softens to the first signs of the counterculture. Then comes Mork from Ork (soon to have his own spinoff) in a Halloween special on Happy Days with his "nanu nanu" and gasp his rainbow suspenders. What we all thought was wholesome TV took a turn for the obsurd.

So even in the Golden Age of American TV, Hollywood was in secretly injecting their venom behind the scenes and in certain characters, which gave birth to the radical leftist directors and producers like Ron Howard. Don't get me started on "All in the Family" and how on "Andy Griffith" Aunt "B" seemed to not like men.

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redleghunter  posted on  2012-06-26   15:42:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#90. To: redleghunter (#89)

So even in the Golden Age of American TV, Hollywood was in secretly injecting their venom behind the scenes and in certain characters, which gave birth to the radical leftist directors and producers like Ron Howard.

Remember that "RUST NEVER SLEEPS."

The entire American "left" has been working towards the worker's paradise since day one.

They are Fabians who have been working in public for a couple hundred years.

Mass media is the favored tool of tyrants.

The ONLY antidote is KNOWLEDGE.

One way would be to get ALL US children to read and UNDERSTAND "1984" and the rest of Orwell, and Ayn Rand's "Anthem", and Vance Pakard's "The Hidden Persuaders", while they are still in grade school or junior high school. They also need to go to a broadcast studio and watch a TV show, and a radio show happen live. They should also go to the newsrooms of any paper or mag that would have them.

People need to know what is being used against them, to understand how to fight it.

TURN YOUR BRAIN BACK ON! TURN YOUR BROADCAST TVs OFF!

"RUST NEVER SLEEPS!"

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-06-26   16:07:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#91. To: Biff Tannen (#88)

You insufferable twit. I

Couldn't maintain a sane debate, eh?

Your inane response is why you aren't taken seriously by anyone...and have all the social skills of a baboon on Quaaludes.

Liberator  posted on  2012-06-26   23:25:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#92. To: redleghunter, Mad Dog (#89) (Edited)

What is interesting, O'Reilly did a segment on the old 50s, 60s and 70s "family" TV shows a few months ago. He had some conservative media research dude come on and show how all the shows we thought were very American and very conservative actually had a Hollywood producer, director or writer put some underhanded progressive undertow in the plots. You got the Brady Bunch right, it told America being divorced was ok. It also highlighted Alice the maid who always seemed to be interested in finally finding Mr. Right but prefers to live in the basement running her own life. An underhanded way of promoting feminism. The offset "lifestyles" never made it on the show but was a sign of the times for Hollywood, which is usually 10 years or so ahead in the sin and depravity dept. The other one O'Reilly showcased was "Happy Days." On the surface it was "Leave it to Beaver" with a mid 50s golden age American family. One father, one mother and the kids belonged to both! But on the underside the show went to great lengths to show that the Cunninghams were square and obsolete in a rapidly modern era. The father was always bested by Fonzi, the James Dean knock off. The mother and children listened more to Fonzi with his broken home background than they did to dear ol hard working dad. Then in later episodes the dad softens to the first signs of the counterculture. Then comes Mork from Ork (soon to have his own spinoff) in a Halloween special on Happy Days with his "nanu nanu" and gasp his rainbow suspenders. What we all thought was wholesome TV took a turn for the obsurd.

So even in the Golden Age of American TV, Hollywood was in secretly injecting their venom behind the scenes and in certain characters, which gave birth to the radical leftist directors and producers like Ron Howard. Don't get me started on "All in the Family" and how on "Andy Griffith" Aunt "B" seemed to not like men.

Interesting take on the Brady Bunch...AND Happy Days. In 'Happy Days', the Fonz seemed to join the establishment later on AS the dad softened his position to the counter-culture.

I never did get Mork and Mindy (were they actually integrated on a Happy days show?? Just like Laverne and Shirley?) Lol - how about Lenny and Squiggy?

Aunt Bea was just a bit over-cautious about men, IMO. And the pickings seemed a bit slim in Mayberry - what, between Floyd the Barber, Otis, Gomer, Goober, and Barney.

I will admit to liking Mayberry RFD, 'Petticoat Junction', the 'Beverly Hilbillies', and Green Acres. It was said that the new liberal CBS honchos didn't like that rural innocence and simple, clean humor...despite competitive ratings and unloaded ALL of them at nearly the same time. Replaced it of course with "edgy" social-message stuff like 'All in the Family,' The Jeffersons', 'Maude', Mary Tyler Moore, etc.

Liberator  posted on  2012-06-26   23:37:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#93. To: Liberator. Biff Tannen (#91)

Couldn't maintain a sane debate, eh?

Wrong question, I want to add: it is not all your fault either as YOU examine life, life and the pursuit of happiness for yourself and family and business and country.

ARE you VOTING FOR ROMNEY? OR THE OTHER GUY?

buckeroo  posted on  2012-06-26   23:43:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#94. To: Mad Dog, redleghunter (#90)

The entire American "left" has been working towards the worker's paradise since day one.

They are Fabians who have been working in public for a couple hundred years.

Mass media is the favored tool of tyrants.

The ONLY antidote is KNOWLEDGE.

The problem is NOT "knowledge" but intellectual laziness and acceptance of ignorance and massive brainwashing by and of the majority.

One way would be to get ALL US children to read and UNDERSTAND "1984" and the rest of Orwell, and Ayn Rand's "Anthem", and Vance Pakard's "The Hidden Persuaders", while they are still in grade school or junior high school. They also need to go to a broadcast studio and watch a TV show, and a radio show happen live. They should also go to the newsrooms of any paper or mag that would have them.

Good ideas in theory....

But that kind of truth and knowledge these days would expose public schools as charades and teachers as mass manipulators and tools of subversiveness.....BY STUDENTS. Ain't happening.

People need to know what is being used against them, to understand how to fight it. TURN YOUR BRAIN BACK ON! TURN YOUR BROADCAST TVs OFF!

WE can; These last couple of generations are...ZOMBIES. No helping them. Until it's too late. They are ALL swept-up victims of the same stream of social-media consciousness....or else they are ostracized by the main trunk of the Zombie Movement.

Liberator  posted on  2012-06-26   23:47:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#95. To: buckeroo (#93)

Are YOU voting for the Muslim-Queer-Fascist-Commie Destroyer of America and Hater of Whitey?

Or sand-bagging, handing back 0buma a country he sh*ts on every single day?

Liberator  posted on  2012-06-26   23:49:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#96. To: Liberator (#95)

I AM VOTING FOR THE one MAN OF PRINCIPLE IN ALL OF THE USA FOR President.

ron paul

You can vote for Mitt, 0bama and other political muther-fuckers all you want but YOU OR ANYONE WON'T SEE CHANGE CORRECTED TOWARDS THE IDEAS YOU HAVE WITHIN YOUR OWN SPHERE OF BEING. YOU SHALL NEVER SEE PRINCIPLES AGAIN, as you punch a chad for the two dominating choices that have nothing to do with the US Constitution or the laws of the land.

buckeroo  posted on  2012-06-27   0:00:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#97. To: buckeroo (#96)

Why not just piss you vote away on a fire hydrant?

Liberator  posted on  2012-06-27   0:02:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#98. To: Liberator (#97)

Punch your chad ALL you want, you won't get anything out of the archaic and unstructured voting system of communists that gets a "nod" from the two political parties, much less your personal dignity.

You could improve your odds of choices by punching a voodoo doll with a pin to develop America in a way that you have vision about. (hint, hint and enjoy a whiskey)

buckeroo  posted on  2012-06-27   0:08:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#99. To: buckeroo (#98)

I want breathing room and a chance to win battles...and down the line the war. Romney provides IT.

We (you) are winning JACKSQUAT with 0buma setting fire to EVERY SINGLE corner of this nation. Hey - but at least your conscience will be clear, eh Buck?

Liberator  posted on  2012-06-27   0:14:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#100. To: Liberator (#99)

Romney provides IT.

What does "ROMNEY" actually provide? Please explain. So far, all he has NO VISION for a diminished US federal governance plan than expanding US GOVERNMENT.

He has lied to you. And you bit into a plan that has nothing to do with the destruction of America. You bit into a plan that attempts to counter-balance 0bama.

Why? Think critically while there is still time. Think for yourself.

buckeroo  posted on  2012-06-27   0:22:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#101. To: Liberator (#94)

One way would be to get ALL US children to read and UNDERSTAND "1984" and the rest of Orwell, and Ayn Rand's "Anthem", and Vance Pakard's "The Hidden Persuaders", while they are still in grade school or junior high school. They also need to go to a broadcast studio and watch a TV show, and a radio show happen live. They should also go to the newsrooms of any paper or mag that would have them.

Good ideas in theory....

But that kind of truth and knowledge these days would expose public schools as charades and teachers as mass manipulators and tools of subversiveness.....BY STUDENTS. Ain't happening.

Not "theory".

It was the way that I was raised.

I learned about all of them from my parents, NOT my school.

My mother always made sure that we EXPERIENCED what the real world was. She took us kids to TV shows and radio stations and newspapers. I used to have my name cast in lead in linotype that I typed on a linotype machine at the Denver Post. It's long lost now, but I remember doing it as a young kid.

I knew from before I was 12 years old what a FRAUD TV is. It's FICTION people. FICTION.

We don't need the frikking gooberment.

Take control of your own lives people.

THAT'S no "theory".

But I agree 100% that LAZINESS certainly is. That and the fear of standing out from the herd of course.

There are plenty of good kids who will break free if we give them the chance, by showing them what is what.

Hell, just call BULLSHIT the next time you are in a line and some bozo comes out with some libTURD dogma talking point when they say "everybody knows fill in ... libTURD BULLSHIT".

Just call BULLSHIT.

Say NO, everybody certainly does NOT know that because that is BULLSHIT.

Then tell them why it's BULLSHIT.

ONE person at a time.

LIVE.

That's how we beat these wannabe tyrants.

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-06-27   0:23:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#102. To: Mad Dog (#101)

We don't need the frikking gooberment.

So, dawg .. as your puppy dawg imprint is laid into US governance as an Alaskan voting right, whome did YOU growl for? Someone that ensures you purrina dawg chow? ruff-ruff

buckeroo  posted on  2012-06-27   0:30:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#103. To: redleghunter (#89)

and how on "Andy Griffith" Aunt "B" seemed to not like men.

If she didn't like men back then I wonder what she would think of "so called" men nowadays that manscape???

Political Bumper Stickers: The fastest way in the world to let people know you are a total dumbass.... Total number of Obama 2012 bumper stickers I've seen so far......5.. Total number of Romney 2012 bumper stickers I've seen so far...0.. Total number of Obama vs GW Bush 2012 bumper stickers....2!!

CZ82  posted on  2012-06-27   6:43:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#104. To: buckeroo (#100)

What does "ROMNEY" actually provide? Please explain.

How many times must I explain this??

Simply enough of a dose of sanity and oxygen and freedom that this nation's conservative/constitutional factions can breathe, and re-calibrate and re-occupy the halls of goob and the culture.

With 0buma, we're being sufficated/burned to the ground.

Easy enough to understand??

Liberator  posted on  2012-06-27   10:16:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#105. To: Mad Dog (#101)

My mother always made sure that we EXPERIENCED what the real world was. She took us kids to TV shows and radio stations and newspapers. I used to have my name cast in lead in linotype that I typed on a linotype machine at the Denver Post. It's long lost now, but I remember doing it as a young kid.

I knew from before I was 12 years old what a FRAUD TV is. It's FICTION people. FICTION.

We don't need the frikking gooberment.

Take control of your own lives people.

THAT'S no "theory".

Yes, but the majority are bleating SHEEPLE.

When too many are bleating, stupid pods, that creates a BIG problem for the rest of us.

Liberator  posted on  2012-06-27   10:18:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#106. To: Liberator (#92)

Replaced it of course with "edgy" social-message stuff like 'All in the Family,' The Jeffersons', 'Maude', Mary Tyler Moore, etc.

Yes that WAS a radical (pun fully intended) change of programming. Don't forget "Alice" as well. All those shows attacked the straight conservative father figure head of family. All in the Family basically told Americans, that the WWII generation of Archie is dead and we are to embrace "Meathead" because he is the now and future. Not much balance on that show. The show got great ratings because men like my Dad, in or rapidly approaching middle age, loved Archie and agreed with most of what Archie said. They actually saw Meathead as the idiot guy who they would not let get on the porch to take a daughter on a date. As a matter of fact, around the time of All in the Family a long haired hippy with beard tried "calling on" my sister and he got as far as the porch steps before the "ol" man put an end to his "court'in." The Jeffersons probably gave rise to the Jeremiah Wright faction of Black America. Maude gave rise to the feminist that belittled the husband and was a closet lesbian. Mary Tyler Moore was the mold for future TV SITCOM and TV "Drama" by casting the men to be weak and curiously ambivalent to women. So yeah Hollywood did a job on a few generations but those 70s shows really showed their hand.

As iron sharpens iron, So a man sharpens the countenance of his friend. -Proverbs 27:17 (NKJV)

redleghunter  posted on  2012-06-27   15:46:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#107. To: Liberator (#95)

Are YOU voting for the Muslim-Queer-Fascist-Commie Destroyer of America and Hater of Whitey?

Or sand-bagging, handing back 0buma a country he sh*ts on every single day?

What the sheeple have done in electing Odinga to office is akin to having the Steinbrenner family hire a Boston Red Sox fan to be GM for the Yankees.

As iron sharpens iron, So a man sharpens the countenance of his friend. -Proverbs 27:17 (NKJV)

redleghunter  posted on  2012-06-27   15:50:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#108. To: Liberator (#105)

Yes, but the majority are bleating SHEEPLE.

When too many are bleating, stupid pods, that creates a BIG problem for the rest of us.

so WHAT?

T'was EVER thus.

ALL of HUMAN history shows the exact same pattern.

The active third is what has ALWAYS moved human societies.

That's the way it IS.

We do what WE do, FUCK the rest of them.

So what?

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-06-27   16:34:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#109. To: redleghunter (#89)

...how on "Andy Griffith" Aunt "B" seemed to not like men.

That's kind of a stretch.

I recall a few episodes where Aunt Bea had dates with men, and IIRC she was widowed, not a spinster.

“America is at that awkward stage; it's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards.”---Claire Wolfe

Bill D Berger  posted on  2012-06-27   16:43:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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