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Title: Romney Says He Wouldn't Need Approval of Congress to Attack Iran
Source: The New American
URL Source: http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnew ... val-of-congress-to-attack-iran
Published: Jun 20, 2012
Author: Written by Joe Wolverton, II
Post Date: 2012-06-20 12:20:38 by SJN
Keywords: None
Views: 37962
Comments: 73

Appearing with Bob Schieffer on Sunday’s Face the Nation, Republican presidential candidate and “presumptive nominee” Mitt Romney said that if he is elected in November, he would not need congressional approval to start a war with Iran.

Specifically, Romney said:

I can assure you if I'm president, the Iranians will have no question but that I will be willing to take military action if necessary to prevent them from becoming a nuclear threat to the world. I don't believe at this stage, therefore, if I'm president that we need to have a war powers approval or special authorization for military force. The president has that capacity now. I understand that some in the Senate for instance have written letters to the president indicating you should know that a containment strategy is unacceptable. We cannot survive a course of action which would include a nuclear Iran, and we must be willing to take any and all actions.

Republicans, particularly those occupying the conservative corner of that big tent, may question how Romney’s stance differs significantly from that of President Obama, who famously exercised these imagined “war powers” to initiate military action in Yemen, Libya, and likely Syria.

In his Six-Month Report of the 2012 War Powers Resolution, President Obama informed Congress that the United States, acting under the ostensible authority of the United Nations, NATO, and the Authorization for the Use of Military Force, is currently conducting military operations in Afghanistan, Iraq, Yemen, Somalia, Republic of South Sudan, the Democratic Republic of the Congo, the Central African Republic, Uganda, Egypt, and Kosovo.

American military intervention in every one of these foreign conflicts came about by order of the president without a congressional declaration of war, in direct violation of the separation of powers and enumeration thereof in the Constitution.

Apparently, a President Romney would retain his predecessor’s predilection for ignoring the Constitution and usurping powers that are not his.

This theory is not some politically motivated assertion by Romney’s rivals or an operative of the Obama reelection campaign. As Daniel Larson explained in the American Conservative:

These are not statements that Romney’s critics are putting into his mouth. No one is speculating about what Romney’s position on Iran might be, and no one is imputing views to him that he doesn’t claim to hold. He is telling the public plainly that he believes the United States cannot survive a containment policy directed against Iran. It is fair to conclude from this that Romney is delusional (or is pretending to be delusional) and cannot be entrusted with the responsibilities of the Presidency.

Larson continued:

Romney obviously does not believe war is a last resort, and he clearly doesn't believe that the Congress has anything to say about attacking Iran. According to Romney, it is something that the president could do tomorrow if he believed it necessary. The Constitution is completely irrelevant to Romney, and so is the consent of the American people expressed through its representatives. No one should have any illusions about how Romney would conduct foreign policy if he is elected.

Curiously, it is one of Romney’s newest supporters that once spoke out eloquently and inspiringly against the sort of dictatorial presidency that Romney is promising to perpetuate. On the floor of the Senate, Senator Rand Paul (R-Ky.) said:

Our Founding Fathers were quite concerned about giving the power to declare war to the Executive. They were quite concerned that the Executive could become like a king. Many in this body cannot get boots on ground fast enough in a variety of places, from Syria to Libya to Iran. We don't just send boots to war. We send our young Americans to war. Our young men and women, our soldiers, deserve thoughtful debate. Before sending our young men and women into combat, we should have a mature and thoughtful debate over the ramifications of and over the authorization of war and over the motives of the war. James Madison wrote that the Constitution supposes what history demonstrates. That the Executive is the branch most interested in war and most prone to it. The Constitution, therefore, with studied care vested that power in the Legislature.

Friends of freedom are hopeful that Senator Paul’s endorsement of Mitt Romney has not cost him his dedication to the Constitution or his opposition to the unconstitutional exercise of “war powers” on the part of the occupant of the White House regardless of the letter after his name.

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#2. To: SJN (#0)

Romney's notions here are nothing new. All part of unitary executive theory.

This is part of why an American president is always dangerous. Few real constraints on their power to go to war.

Congress can defund a war. But in a real power struggle between Congress and the executive branch, the president will always hold the upper-hand and will have plenty of ways to keep troops in the field or to use nukes with no consultation at all.

Romney could nuke Tehran and get away with it. So could Obama.

Tooconservative  posted on  2012-06-20   12:32:45 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: TooConservative (#2)

James Madison wrote that the Constitution supposes what history demonstrates. That the Executive is the branch most interested in war and most prone to it. The Constitution, therefore, with studied care vested that power in the Legislature.

So what happened to the above?

SJN  posted on  2012-06-20   13:12:10 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: SJN (#3)

So what happened to the above?

Only Congress can declare a war.

But nothing forbids a president from starting a war and carrying it on for some time without any consultation with Congress.

And only Congress, specifically the House, can restrain such wars by defunding them.

People need to be aware of exactly what the Constitution does and does not say about war powers and other matters.

Tooconservative  posted on  2012-06-20   13:36:00 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: TooConservative (#5)

Only Congress can declare a war. But nothing forbids a president from starting a war and carrying it on for some time without any consultation with Congress.

Is that officially or un-officially?

Consultation with and Congressional approval means diddly. Why is anyone pretending otherwise??

0buma dictatorial governance is proof that he can indeed defy the USCON, Congress, Senatorial Inquiry, and enforce edicts that everyone MUST sh*t rainbows. OR ELSE.

Failure to comply could be met with the Wrath Khan of all the other fedgoob alphabet agencies and personnel whose budgets and paychecks. OR else.

His (and our) entire governance is coercive up and down the goobermental Food-Chain.

People need to be aware of exactly what the Constitution does and does not say about war powers and other matters.

As thought it actually matters?? Lol - Come on, TC.

Liberator  posted on  2012-06-20   15:00:23 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Liberator (#7)

As thought it actually matters?? Lol - Come on, TC.

A president isn't restrained by Congress at all in foreign policy and defense (including making war).

The Senate can reject treaties the prez signs. The House can defund his wars. That's about it, War Powers Act or not.

The fundamental problem is that you do not have a consistent permanent antiwar faction in either political party. So politics naturally reflects this, no matter what the laws and the Constitution says.

Look at the Republican support for Obama's optional warfare in Yemen, Libya and the clamor for war in Syria and Iran.

Tooconservative  posted on  2012-06-20   15:28:22 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: TooConservative (#11)

A president isn't restrained by Congress at all in foreign policy and defense (including making war).

The Senate can reject treaties the prez signs. The House can defund his wars. That's about it, War Powers Act or not.

The fundamental problem is that you do not have a consistent permanent antiwar faction in either political party. So politics naturally reflects this, no matter what the laws and the Constitution says.

Irrespective of "politics," the lynch-pin by which all authority is derived and delegated is a failure to have a consistent respect for the letter of the law and Constitution which has clearly been compromised AT THE TOP. This has been achieved through a collusive "gentleman's agreement" between Congress, the Executive Branch, and Judicial Branch. Immunity for all who violate the constitution's pesky constraints.

Moreover, when the U.S. Senate refused to hear the evidence of crimes committed by Bubba and dismissed Impeachment charges, it became excruciatingly painful that this single act signaled to all that a President would now and forever be declared to be immune to and from justice. Thus: Since Bubba wuz declared "King," the Oval Office has become Throne of the U.S. Goobermint. No wonder the Dems and media subjects never want to give it up.

Liberator  posted on  2012-06-20   18:59:14 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Liberator (#13)

The government will dare whatever the voters will tolerate.

Tooconservative  posted on  2012-06-20   19:14:44 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: TooConservative (#14)

The government will dare whatever the voters will tolerate.

? I think you are half an idiot.

The government shall do anything *IT* fucking wants when it has realized the gargantuan size of the US government.

The size of American government has been inflated to the point that all it does is play games of silly international gambits that lead nowhere but failure. Of course, the taxpayers nor the voters are considered by any post WW2 US government, other than their loyalty to a tired, derelict two-party system that created this travesty.

buckeroo  posted on  2012-06-20   20:38:37 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: buckeroo, TooConservative (#21)

The government shall do anything *IT* fucking wants...

100% true.

It's delusional to believe otherwise...

This disgraceful goob became its own god began when Bubba broke ELEVEN Commandments, wagged his finger and laughed at the American People on live tee-bee - and still wasn't jailed, impeached, or tar & feathered.

Liberator  posted on  2012-06-20   20:46:16 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Liberator (#22)

This disgraceful goob became its own god began when Bubba broke ELEVEN Commandments, wagged his finger and laughed at the American People on live tee-bee - and still wasn't jailed, impeached, or tar & feathered.

I like that comment, Liberator just one caveat however: I say Bubba was and *IS* the infamous GWBush. There are so many BUBBAs in the American political CON system though. You can take you pick of presidents and can't go wrong since WW2.

buckeroo  posted on  2012-06-20   20:59:00 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: buckeroo (#24)

I like that comment, Liberator just one caveat however: I say Bubba was and *IS* the infamous GWBush.

There is only one original Bubba.

Dubya wouldn't have the temerity to wag his finger at the country, "Aaah NEVER...bla, blah, blah..."

There are so many BUBBAs in the American political CON system though. You can take you pick of presidents and can't go wrong since WW2.

I guess it can be said there have been degrees of "Bubba-ism" since WWII. But somehow, the worst of the lot just happen to be Dems.

Liberator  posted on  2012-06-21   17:51:03 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#40. To: Liberator (#39)

I guess it can be said there have been degrees of "Bubba-ism" since WWII.

You just "guess"? What the FUCK? You can't figure the political system out based on the merits of US governance since WW2?

What happened to YOU along the way?

buckeroo  posted on  2012-06-22 00:04:55 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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