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Title: Santorum Sticks By Criticism Of Romney, Says He Wouldn't Serve In His Administration
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URL Source: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201 ... t-serve-in-his-administration/
Published: Jun 17, 2012
Author: Associated Press
Post Date: 2012-06-17 13:44:58 by Brian S
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Views: 17066
Comments: 47
Rick Santorum is sticking by earlier questions he posed about former rival Mitt Romney's authenticity, saying the points he made during the primary campaign were legitimate. Santorum said Sunday "I don't back away from any of those things." Santorum had also argued in March that Republicans should give President Obama a second term because Romney wasn't conservative enough. The former Pennsylvania senator now says "clearly, the difference between President Obama and Mitt Romney is a chasm." Should Romney win in November, Santorum says he would advise Romney if asked but not serve in his administration. He said: "It's pretty much a flat no." Santorum tells CNN'S "State of the Union" that he wouldn't consider working for a Romney administration because his priority lies with his family.
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#7. To: jwpegler (#6)
Same difference. lol
Oh yeah!
Never swear "allegiance" to anything other than the 'right to change your mind'!
No, it doesn't make me happy. But I didn't vote for Obama and I'm not voting for Romney.
I don't care what people say, I'm not voting for him. I plan on voting for Romney. Sometimes I consider not voting for him. But Obama is so horrible, the worst president in history. I will take my chance and vote for Romney. If he is the antichrist we aren't going to stop him anyways. Do you think we are the little horn that grows into the big horn or something like that. Are we Babylon?
I know where you are coming from. I often times think I just must vote for him because of Obama. But I just can't justify it in my mind. I want to! Believe me, I truly do. But this is really a matter of conscience for me, more so than I've ever been faced with voting for others.
I believe so. I've thought of that myself many times. The Babylon reference fits us to a tee.
You are not alone, SJN. I am voting for Ron Paul 2012!
I wont criticize you for not voting for Romney. I understand where you are coming from too. I may still change my mind and not vote for him. But when I think about all the liberal pieces of shit that would be happy, I say screw them. I don't want them to have a victory. I want them crushed. I think Romney will be slightly better then Obama. But again I could be wrong and he could attack Iran (Obama could too) and make gas 10 bucks a gallon. It is one of those we are damned if we do or don't.
It sure does.
What a waste of a vote Buck. In my opinion (I know you don't give a shit about my opinion but I'm giving it anyway :)) if your not going to vote against Romney you should at least vote for someone on the ballot. Ron Paul votes wont be counted my friend.
Vote for Romney all you want. You shall have nothing but more deterioration about American quality of life. Some of you silly people need to wake up. It is YOUR stinkin' chad punching for one of the two major political party that has DESTROYED America.
I try to convince people to vote in the primaries for people such as Ron Paul. Ron Paul didn't win unfortunately. So I am planning on voting for a piece of shit. I know he sucks. But it is him or Obama. Again unfortunately. I wish it wasn't true but you must admit it is. Buck I would rather vote for you for Presidnet then Romney.
Don't compromise your values. Vote your convictions. Throw the chad-puncher away and send a clear signal to EVERYONE ---
Well I know where Stone and others are coming from. My conscience is being torn all the time this way or the other. I'll keep praying on it. Best I can do. Also, we Conservatives were throwing out a message last time with Obama and it didn't work with the take over of the GOP over the last decade or so by the liberals. So, I can see both sides, big time. But in the end, it comes down to what I have to live with. (As far as my conscience, etc.).
To me, this is a good sign about your perspective. Eventually you shall arrive at a point where no more research is required and you will vote your heart. It isn't a struggle! It is objective principles that you are evaluating within the many decisions you must make to feel good about your responsibility. You are a human dynamo! If we had some 100,000,000 more great Americans like you, our nation would be much further along with respect to our quality of life as opposed to being dragged into the mud around the world.
Write Ron Paul in as your Presidential choice 2012! What you propose requires an unshakeable moral core, which cannot be bought at *any* price. Ron Paul is such a man, and he tends to attract other well- educated, honorable men. Thus, your support of him tells me volumes about your character. Here at LF, we have plenty of fair-weather friends who were quite happy to jump on the band-wagon when Paul had a chance (however meager) of winning. It's *easy* to be a revolutionary after the war has begun. Followers that they are, they'll stand by the moral man only so long as they think they're on the "winning" team. When hardships or challenges arise, they'll steal away, like a thief in the night. What have such thieves stolen? Trust and hope, from those whom they stood with. This forum- a microcosm of society- is an indication of how far society has fallen. The forum members, who encourage dancing with the devil, show how utterly weak and feckless most American (so- called) "Patriots" truly are. Those of REAL courage and convictions stand by their values regardless of the price, and despite the risks. But you'll not receive any support here. The mindlessness of the herd is too strong to break through the normalcy biases that drive them. Truly, they would rather *die than think.
"Most people prefer to believe that their leaders are just and fair, even in the face of evidence to the contrary, because once a citizen acknowledges that the government under which he lives is lying and corrupt, the citizen has to choose what he or she will do about it. To take action in the face of corrupt government entails risks of harm to life and loved ones. To choose to do nothing is to surrender one's self-image of standing for principles. Most people do not have the courage to face that choice. Hence, most propaganda is not designed to fool the critical thinker but only to give moral cowards an excuse not to think at all." Michael Rivero
TL DR As usual.
. As you of all people should know, it's easy to maintain your core values when no one pays attention to them. On the other hand, there's Willard...
I'll believe that a corporation is a person 1 second after Texas executes one...
Here at LF, we have plenty of fair-weather friends who were quite happy to jump on the band-wagon when Paul had a chance (however meager) of winning. It's *easy* to be a revolutionary after the war has begun. Followers that they are, they'll stand by the moral man only so long as they think they're on the "winning" team. When hardships or challenges arise, they'll steal away, like a thief in the night. What have such thieves stolen? Trust and hope, from those whom they stood with. This forum- a microcosm of society- is an indication of how far society has fallen. The forum members, who encourage dancing with the devil, show how utterly weak and feckless most American (so- called) "Patriots" truly are. Those of REAL courage and convictions stand by their values regardless of the price, and despite the risks. But you'll not receive any support here. The mindlessness of the herd is too strong to break through the normalcy biases that drive them. Truly, they would rather *die than think. POST OF THE DAY...and absolutely spot on!
POST OF THE DAY...and absolutely spot on! Now I know why I don't understand your logic. Of course freedom is not free. Freedom is freedom. And free is free. Be carefull with words; they tend to bite back.
He was booted from his Senate seat in Pennsylvania in the biggest loss by an incumbent in 100 years. I actually thought that it was a joke when he announced that he was running for President. Well then what's his problem, it seems like he should fit right in with a loser like Romney.... Trying to get righteous at the last minute???
Political Bumper Stickers: The fastest way in the world to let people know you are a total dumbass.... Total number of Obama 2012 bumper stickers I've seen so far......5.. Total number of Romney 2012 bumper stickers I've seen so far...0.. Total number of Obama vs GW Bush 2012 bumper stickers....2!!
and your point is...????
So when the Miami dolphins or whoever are eliminated from the playoffs. Do you still instist they should win the super bowl? In the Olympics when a boxer is eliminated by losing the bout. Do you still insist the judges should give him a gold medal? Why not just vote for Ronald Reagan?
What's Santorum's problem??? He's a lying hypocrite, that's his problem. I can't stand that asshole. I never could.
Elitist talk is cheap.
In the first place I didn't know Miami had a team anymore, but that aside, Eric is holier than thou and me, and takes a hand grenade to bed with him every night in the bunker down by the creek under the two by.
what's your point...when you sober up from your weekend "hoorah" and can clearly state your ideas...let me know.
You and Capitalist Eric believe you are the real conservatives with real courage and everyone else is a pussy. That makes you an elitist. That makes freedom less free. If, at this point you still choose to act as dumb as a rotting stump then take a course in logic, after you pass a course in civility.
IF he was "such a man," then why didn't he establish a Third Party and run for President within IT?? Instead he remained a Republican.... Go ahead: EXPLAIN.
I can't speak for CE but I don't believe "everyone else is a pussy",... just those that don't have the backbone or conviction to stand up to LIARS that HATE the Constitution. To bad you can't/won't see the two party FRAUD. How is O'Romney going to win if you don't get the votes from the folks that have "woken up"...see, I don't "fear" a KENYAN win...you do.
Well, that is your cross to carry.
Wasn't it whorin'up who claimed to be well-adjusted and reasonable... And in the next breath expressed complete faith in the ACLU?!?! In other words, he/she is *clearly* a sheeple, leading right back to the normalcy biases, and inability to step away from herd. Whorin'up is merely one more moral coward, who dislikes anyone who dares point out his/her regrettable lack of character.
"Most people prefer to believe that their leaders are just and fair, even in the face of evidence to the contrary, because once a citizen acknowledges that the government under which he lives is lying and corrupt, the citizen has to choose what he or she will do about it. To take action in the face of corrupt government entails risks of harm to life and loved ones. To choose to do nothing is to surrender one's self-image of standing for principles. Most people do not have the courage to face that choice. Hence, most propaganda is not designed to fool the critical thinker but only to give moral cowards an excuse not to think at all." Michael Rivero
Don't know, don't care. . I haven't watched TV for several years now, as I have no use for the "bread and circuses" that it represents. I've spent time offshore in places that were considered as "newsworthy" by MSM, and seen the MSM either grossly manipulate the truth, or create their news from whole cloth... We all know they lie, of course... But when you are THERE, and see how they lie with your own eyes, this forever changes your understanding... Or as Howard Beal said, So, you listen to me!...Television is not the truth! Television is a goddamned amusement park! Television is a circus, a carnival, a traveling troupe of acrobats, story-tellers, dancers, singers, jugglers, side- show freaks, lion- tamers and football players. We're in the boredom-killing business! So, if you want the truth, go to God, go to your guru, go to yourselves because that's the only place you'll ever find any real truth! But, man, you're never going to get any truth from us. We'll tell you anything you want to hear. We lie like hell! We deal in illusions, man! None of it is true!...You're beginning to believe the illusions we're spinning here. You're beginning to think that the tube is reality and your own lives are unreal...This is mass madness, you maniacs! In God's name, you people are the real thing! We are the illusion!" "Most people prefer to believe that their leaders are just and fair, even in the face of evidence to the contrary, because once a citizen acknowledges that the government under which he lives is lying and corrupt, the citizen has to choose what he or she will do about it. To take action in the face of corrupt government entails risks of harm to life and loved ones. To choose to do nothing is to surrender one's self-image of standing for principles. Most people do not have the courage to face that choice. Hence, most propaganda is not designed to fool the critical thinker but only to give moral cowards an excuse not to think at all." Michael Rivero
the uninformed have voted for the lessor of two evils for so long we are now at a point where BOTH parties are pure evil, and once again, those of us that WILL NOT sell-out are being rediculed and demeaned by the very folks that have compromised their value system long ago. The globalists win with either of their lying, corrupt, tratiorous POS. People that have no charactor have no problem supporting, and voting for, people that have no charactor.
So, you see no difference at all between... Maxine Waters and Jim DeMint? Chucky Schumer and Tom Colborn? Barbara Boxer and Rand Paul? Really??? There ARE good elected officials in the GOP today. They are still a minority in but they are a much LARGER minority than we've seen since before WWII. The Democrats on the other hand have gotten worse over the last several decades.
YOU: So when the Miami dolphins or whoever are eliminated from the playoffs. Do you still instist they should win the super bowl? In the Olympics when a boxer is eliminated by losing the bout. Do you still insist the judges should give him a gold medal? LOL. Once again you resort to the same high-school tactics, to push a losing position. THIS time it's the logical fallacy of a question-begging false analogy. X is similar to y (where the similarity depends for its strength upon some assumption which begs the question). x is P. Therefore, y is P. Really, aren't these childish attempts of yours starting to embarrass you yet??? The comparison in invalid- a bread-and-circuses game with many choices and many teams, without a single purpose beyond boredom-killing, does not correlate to whether someone has a moral core. Getting past your latest silliness, the elitists offer two poisons, one fast- acting, the other more slow and agonizing. You prefer to the take the slow and miserable path. I recognize that both are poison, and refuse both. I refuse to acquiesce to false choices. Allowing yourself to become trapped in a false dichotomy allows others to control you. With regard to the election, it's clear that my vote doesn't have any real meaning, thus whether I vote for Ron Paul carries no weight, with regard to who will occupy the White House. That's the reality, much as I dislike it. On the other hand, I imagine there will be millions who make the same choice as I. WHY? Because the refusal to participate in a patently rigged game robs the elitists of the legitimacy they require to push their agenda. I- and others- will rob them of what they want most... acceptance. Your conscious choice to take one of the poisons, is a fault in your moral character; simply put, you lack the courage to stand by your convictions, and foolishly think you can happily toss your conscious (and morals) out the window, when it is no longer convenient, or when you think nobody's watching... How comforting it must be for you, to simply walk away from your beliefs. How EASY it must be, to willingly sacrifice what matters, because it's easier to fall for a lie, than to stand for the truth... Given your constant threads about religion- the bible, different verses, arguing with other posters- it is clear that you consider yourself a religious man… And you’ll notice I never get into those discussions, because damn-near anything in the bible can be twisted and used to suit a particular viewpoint… But you know what REALLY keeps me away from them??? It’s the fact that such people who are the first to shout at the top of their lungs about some minor point on religion are usually the FIRST to walk away from their stated beliefs, when it really matters… I’ve not stated this before because while I find such hypocrisy detestable, the calling-out of such hypocrisy is almost equally distasteful, and as such, I prefer to stay quiet about such things… Morals and integrity are easy, when things are going well… The TRUE test is when things are NOT going well; does a man remain true to his values, or does he sacrifice his soul, when it is easier than standing for the right thing? You constantly push the religious angles, so you should be familiar with the story of Job… I’ll let it go at that. The truth is that you throw away what you claim to stand for, when such beliefs become a burden. Instead, you revert to "situational ethics," a practice where rationalization of anything can be done, no matter how repugnant, no matter how immoral. Contrary to your apparent self-image as a religious, righteous man… You’re neither.
"Most people prefer to believe that their leaders are just and fair, even in the face of evidence to the contrary, because once a citizen acknowledges that the government under which he lives is lying and corrupt, the citizen has to choose what he or she will do about it. To take action in the face of corrupt government entails risks of harm to life and loved ones. To choose to do nothing is to surrender one's self-image of standing for principles. Most people do not have the courage to face that choice. Hence, most propaganda is not designed to fool the critical thinker but only to give moral cowards an excuse not to think at all." Michael Rivero
In every way at every level.
Yeah, no shit. It's commonly referred to as Stockholm Syndrome, "a psychological phenomenon in which hostages express empathy and have positive feelings towards their captors, sometimes to the point of defending them. These feelings are generally considered irrational in light of the danger or risk endured by the victims, who essentially mistake a lack of abuse from their captors for an act of kindness." Does that pretty-well cover it? A quote that also applies well to this situation, is "Men, it has been well said, think in herds; it will be seen that they go mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, and one by one." "Most people prefer to believe that their leaders are just and fair, even in the face of evidence to the contrary, because once a citizen acknowledges that the government under which he lives is lying and corrupt, the citizen has to choose what he or she will do about it. To take action in the face of corrupt government entails risks of harm to life and loved ones. To choose to do nothing is to surrender one's self-image of standing for principles. Most people do not have the courage to face that choice. Hence, most propaganda is not designed to fool the critical thinker but only to give moral cowards an excuse not to think at all." Michael Rivero
PLEASE. You profess your love and admiration for the ACLU. Which means you're stupid AND disengenuous. Bozo.
"Most people prefer to believe that their leaders are just and fair, even in the face of evidence to the contrary, because once a citizen acknowledges that the government under which he lives is lying and corrupt, the citizen has to choose what he or she will do about it. To take action in the face of corrupt government entails risks of harm to life and loved ones. To choose to do nothing is to surrender one's self-image of standing for principles. Most people do not have the courage to face that choice. Hence, most propaganda is not designed to fool the critical thinker but only to give moral cowards an excuse not to think at all." Michael Rivero
That was an excellent post, Eric. Accolades to you on that one.
Thanks.
"Most people prefer to believe that their leaders are just and fair, even in the face of evidence to the contrary, because once a citizen acknowledges that the government under which he lives is lying and corrupt, the citizen has to choose what he or she will do about it. To take action in the face of corrupt government entails risks of harm to life and loved ones. To choose to do nothing is to surrender one's self-image of standing for principles. Most people do not have the courage to face that choice. Hence, most propaganda is not designed to fool the critical thinker but only to give moral cowards an excuse not to think at all." Michael Rivero
#8. To: SJN (#2)
I know many people on the right are going to be pissed off when they discover that there are Christians who simply won't vote for a leader of a cult that is so opposed to what Christianity is and that masquerades as "somewhat" Christian. .
#9. To: Brian S (#8)
#10. To: SJN (#3)
I'll go out on a limb here as well to say I could see the LDS as being the group that is associated with one of the largest if not THE 'ANTI-Christ' (there have been many smaller anti-Christs as we've seen through out history), but there is a real possibility that this CIA, LDS, Presidental contender is that very thing.
#11. To: A K A Stone (#10)
#12. To: A K A Stone (#10)
Are we Babylon?
#13. To: SJN (#3)
I don't care what people say, I'm not voting for him.
#14. To: SJN (#11)
I know where you are coming from. I often times think I just must vote for him because of Obama. But I just can't justify it in my mind. I want to! Believe me, I truly do. But this is really a matter of conscience for me, more so than I've ever been faced with voting for others.
#15. To: SJN (#12)
The Babylon reference fits us to a tee.
#16. To: buckeroo (#13)
You are not alone, SJN. I am voting for Ron Paul 2012!
#17. To: A K A Stone (#16)
#18. To: buckeroo (#17)
Some of you silly people need to wake up. It is YOUR stinkin' chad punching for one of the two major political party that has DESTROYED America.
#19. To: A K A Stone (#18)
Ron Paul didn't win unfortunately.
#20. To: buckeroo, Ping, AKA Stone (#19)
#21. To: SJN (#20)
My conscience is being torn all the time this way or the other. I'll keep praying on it. Best I can do.
#22. To: buckeroo (#19)
Don't compromise your values. Vote your convictions. Throw the chad-puncher away and send a clear signal to EVERYONE ---
#23. To: Capitalist Eric (#22)
Say hello to your grandma for me.
#24. To: Capitalist Eric (#22)
(Edited)
#25. To: Capitalist Eric (#22)
What you propose requires an unshakeable moral core, which cannot be bought at *any* price. Ron Paul is such a man, and he tends to attract other well- educated, honorable men. Thus, your support of him tells me volumes about your character.
#26. To: freedomsnotfree, Capitalist Eric (#25)
"Those of REAL courage and convictions stand by their values regardless of the price, and despite the risks."
#27. To: jwpegler (#4)
He is a big spending nincompoop, just like Bush.
#28. To: harrowup (#26)
#29. To: Capitalist Eric (#22)
Here at LF, we have plenty of fair-weather friends who were quite happy to jump on the band-wagon when Paul had a chance (however meager) of winning. It's *easy* to be a revolutionary after the war has begun. Followers that they are, they'll stand by the moral man only so long as they think they're on the "winning" team. When hardships or challenges arise, they'll steal away, like a thief in the night. What have such thieves stolen? Trust and hope, from those whom they stood with. This forum- a microcosm of society- is an indication of how far society has fallen. The forum members, who encourage dancing with the devil, show how utterly weak and feckless most American (so- called) "Patriots" truly are.
#30. To: CZ82 (#27)
Well then what's his problem, it seems like he should fit right in with a loser like Romney.... Trying to get righteous at the last minute???
we must as a species go into a period of shrinkage that we have not experienced since the Dark Ages and the Black Plague -- lucysmom (A.K.A. minnigold)
#31. To: freedomsnotfree (#28)
and your point is...????
#32. To: A K A Stone, Capitalist Eric (#29)
So when the Miami dolphins or whoever are eliminated from the playoffs. Do you still instist they should win the super bowl?
#33. To: harrowup (#31)
Elitist talk is cheap.
#34. To: freedomsnotfree (#33)
#35. To: Capitalist Eric (#22)
What you propose requires an unshakeable moral core, which cannot be bought at *any* price. Ron Paul is such a man...
#36. To: harrowup, Capitalist Eric (#34)
You and Capitalist Eric believe you are the real conservatives with real courage and everyone else is a pussy
#37. To: freedomsnotfree (#36)
I don't "fear" a KENYAN win...you do.
#38. To: freedomsnotfree (#36)
#39. To: harrowup (#32)
(Edited)
In the first place I didn't know Miami had a team anymore,
"...You people and 62 million other Americans are listening to me right now because less than 3% of you people read books, because less than 15% of you read newspapers. Because the only truth you know is what you get over this tube. Right now, there is a whole, an entire generation that never knew anything that didn't come out of this tube. This tube is the gospel, the ultimate revelation. This tube can make or break presidents, popes, prime ministers; this tube is the most awesome goddamned force in the whole godless world and woe is us if it ever falls into the hands of the wrong people...This company is now in the hands of CCA - the Communication Corporation of America...and when the twelfth largest company in the world controls the most awesome goddamned propaganda force in the whole godless world, who knows what shit will be peddled for truth on this network.
Network
#40. To: Capitalist Eric, harrowup (#38)
#41. To: freedomsnotfree (#40)
(Edited)
we are now at a point where BOTH parties are pure evil
we must as a species go into a period of shrinkage that we have not experienced since the Dark Ages and the Black Plague -- lucysmom (A.K.A. minnigold)
#42. To: A K A Stone (#29)
Capitalist Eric: Here at LF, we have plenty of fair-weather friends who were quite happy to jump on the band-wagon when Paul had a chance (however meager) of winning. It's *easy* to be a revolutionary after the war has begun. Followers that they are, they'll stand by the moral man only so long as they think they're on the "winning" team. When hardships or challenges arise, they'll steal away, like a thief in the night. What have such thieves stolen? Trust and hope, from those whom they stood with. This forum- a microcosm of society- is an indication of how far society has fallen. The forum members, who encourage dancing with the devil, show how utterly weak and feckless most American (so- called) "Patriots" truly are.
#43. To: jwpegler (#41)
The Democrats on the other hand have gotten worse over the last several decades.
#44. To: freedomsnotfree (#40)
those of us that WILL NOT sell-out are being rediculed and demeaned by the very folks that have compromised their value system long ago.
--Charles Mackay--
#45. To: harrowup (#43)
#46. To: Capitalist Eric (#22)
#47. To: buckeroo (#46)
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