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Title: President Obama Signs Order To Stop Deportation Of Young Undocumented Immigrants
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GUARDIAN UK
URL Source: http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/201 ... ented-immigrants?newsfeed=true
Published: Jun 15, 2012
Author: Ed Pilkington
Post Date: 2012-06-15 11:23:51 by Brian S
Keywords: None
Views: 72311
Comments: 112
The Obama administration has announced a dramatic move to placate the rising anger of Hispanic communities across America by offering a partial Dream Act to young law-abiding immigrants without documents who will now no longer live under the threat of deportation and will have the right to work. The move will take effect immediately and could have an impact on 800,000 young immigrants, largely Hispanic, who came to the US as children and though hard-working and law-abiding have lived for years under the shadow of deportation. The department of homeland security said that those who demonstrate that they meet the criteria will be eligible to be taken off the deportation list for a period of two years, subject to renewal, and will be eligible to apply for work authorization. "Our nation's immigration laws must be enforced in a firm and sensible manner," said the secretary of homeland security, Janet Napolitano. "But they are not designed to be blindly enforced without consideration given to the individual circumstances of each case. Nor are they designed to remove productive young people to countries where they may not have lived or even speak the language. Discretion, which is used in so many other areas, is especially justified here." The Obama administration has come under growing criticism in recent months for failing to deliver on its promises to restrict deportation to the most serious criminal offenders. The disappointment expressed about the high levels of deportations has led to speculation it could damage the president's chances of being re-elected in November given the importance of the Latino voting population. The initiative goes a large way to meeting the desire of Hispanic communities for a so-called Dream Act that would grant young undocumented Latinos a pathway to citizenship. It promises to be a significant measure in an election year in which Latino voters could prove crucial in key swing states – some 500,000 new voters are created every year when legal Hispanic youths turn 18. The breaking news of the change in policy was received ecstatically by Latino and progressive organisations. "This is a bold move, a smart move by the White House. It relates to the most decent, innocent undocumented folks in this country and we applaud the president's initiative," said Angela Kelley, an immigration expert at the Center for American Progress. The new deal will be open to anyone who: • came to the US before the age of 16 and is under 30 years old; • have continuously resided in the United States for a least five years preceding the date of this memorandum and are present in the United States at the moment; • are currently in school, have graduated from high school, have obtained a general education development certificate, or are honorably discharged veterans of the Coast Guard or Armed Forces of the United States; • and have not been convicted of any crimes or significant misdemeanours. The one aspect of the Dream Act that is yet to be achieved is the right to citizenship or permanent residency for young undocumented immigrants. Kelley said that the battle for that reform would continue. "We need Congress to step up and finish the job," she said
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#38. To: Liberator (#37)
I guarantee you more than that have woken up, the media and politicians know it too.... (that's why they are flailing around like a bunch of chickens with their heads cut off). It's also why you see Obozos "supposed" approval numbers still so high, they are trying to distort the truth and discourage some voters from turning out.... That's the only way I can see that he stands a chance of being re-elected, along with voter fraud of course....
Political Bumper Stickers: The fastest way in the world to let people know you are a total dumbass.... Total number of Obama 2012 bumper stickers I've seen so far......5.. Total number of Romney 2012 bumper stickers I've seen so far...0.. Total number of Obama vs GW Bush 2012 bumper stickers....2!!
And then start taking over the party with constitutionalists and slowly but surely get rid of the statists..... That's the biggest reason I've never been in favor of a third party because it will ensure the country will deteriorate into third or fourth world status.....
Political Bumper Stickers: The fastest way in the world to let people know you are a total dumbass.... Total number of Obama 2012 bumper stickers I've seen so far......5.. Total number of Romney 2012 bumper stickers I've seen so far...0.. Total number of Obama vs GW Bush 2012 bumper stickers....2!!
Are you saying that the US Constitution was buried with the founders?
Willard M. Romney is a reconquista, running for presidente of Aztlan.
Obama's watch stopped on 24 May 2008, but he's been too busy smoking crack to notice.
I heard that Mitty the Monster agreed with 0bama's EO on all these illegal aliens. These politicians are all the same... with ONE exception: Ron Paul.
It's also why you see Obozos "supposed" approval numbers still so high, they are trying to distort the truth and discourage some voters from turning out.... That's the only way I can see that he stands a chance of being re-elected, along with voter fraud of course.... Agree... Bolded is THE only way this frickin' saboteur and Bolshevik-Nazi wins this election.
That's the biggest reason I've never been in favor of a third party because it will ensure the country will deteriorate into third or fourth world status..... Opposing the Third Party option and re-taking the GOP is valid. So is organizing a Third Party; The questions are which option is: a) Easier to facilitate b) Whether an effective winnable Third Party will ever be a possiblity c) Whether we allow the nation to be totally cratered during the next four years d) Whether during a Romneyan Statist Presidency the bleeding can be stopped long enough to remove the SOME statists from within the GOP, their statist laws, their statist agenda, and restore American nationalism and constitutionalism. The nation will remain wounded through a Romney Presidency, but the hope is that along the route the seed of conservatism can take root while rooting out the worst of the RINOs and Globalists.
At the moment only the Founders' nipples are peaking out of the dirt. What I AM saying is: 0buma is as much an option as a painful suicide.
Why did you intentionally omit Mighty Mittey the Monster of Flip/Floppers from your selected cabal of evil doers?
Hondo, I respect and understand your position - believe me. I don't disagree that Romney is a rabid statist...and pro-Mexican Invasion - as were Stain the two Arbusto Boys (see a trend here?). Yeah, this election sucks as much as either Bush election charade when the opponents were Gore and Kerry - two pompous, elitist a-holes. Look - the NWO agenda has been in the works - it's how Republicans like Bush, Stain, and Romney get the nod. That said, Romney's not a sadistic America-hating, Whitey-hating, capitalist-hating Commie-Fascist and microwave-saboteur. He'll continue (but slow down) the script that undermines America's sovereignty, standard of living, and identity - SAME AS EITHER BUSH. The difference though between he and the Kenyan is WE WILL WIN SOME issues and gain traction during Romney's regime; We have ZERO chance - that's 0.00% with another 4 years of 0buma. That on top of a sh*t-storm of hell that POS will be unleashing... Live and fight another day. Romney give you (and us) another 4 years to organize for a legit Third Party candidate, as well an opportunity to re-take the GOP.
It's a little late for me to chastise you for a lack of reading comprehension, Buck. If you've been familiar with my posts and positions, you'd know better.
Re-read your That said post, statist. You have no principles at all.
This was all about undercutting Rubio. Rubio was building a bi-partisan coalition for his immigration bill. The Obama re-election campaign got scared, so they stepped into lawlessness by enacting major changes to our immigration policy through executive fiat. The Democrat House and 60 person majority in the Senate voted the Dream Act down in 2010. Why didn't Obana act then? This is nothing more than a cynical ploy to get re-elected.
I rarely read you, Liberator. You, IMO, don't say much at all. You have little or few standards or values or principles that you personally stand upon. I only read your posts where you attack the LP Klougns Posse as they are often phunney and entertain me. Please go back there. An attack group of posters is rising against the LP Klougns without you there taking charge. Statists are a problem for a nation as dynamic as America is. And for me, you have fallen into this horrible group of posters.
"we should figure out a way to help kids who are undocumented [aka ILLEGAL INVADER ANCHOR BABIES] through no fault of their own, but there is also broad consensus that it should be done in a way that does not encourage illegal immigration in the future..." So what Rubio is suggesting here is, "What's done-is-done. It's not illegal anchor-babies' fault that the borders aren't enforced and the US Constitution a mockery..." Wait...Here HE is making a mockery of the Constitution while citing it as some kind of convenient referrence: "Today’s [de facto AMNESTY-FOR-ALL] announcement will be welcome news for many of these kids desperate for an answer, but it is a short term answer to a long term problem. And by once again ignoring the Constitution and going around Congress, this short term policy will make it harder to find a balanced and responsible long term one.” Marco-the-Cuban-Firster is a real cute politician; He TOTALLY support 0buma's Amnesty EO but instead just "reminds" us that he'd rather perform treasonous acts through Congress. With respect to the "consensus" Rubio refers to AND "responsibility" -- both short & ling term -- has been to enforce the border, get the Illegal Invaders the hell out of the US and deported, and NOT to bankrupt the country by subsidizing 40 million of them.
Either you forgot the sarcasm tag or your reading comprehension STILL remain problematic. There's even Option #3: You're not as politically saavy as you think.
Rubio was building a bi-partisan coalition for his immigration bill. The Obama re-election campaign got scared, so they stepped into lawlessness by enacting major changes to our immigration policy through executive fiat. Interesting theory and observation... So 0buma pre-empted the RINOs move to grant Amnesty? Either way, America is getting screwed by having its goobermint un-constitutionally and illegally subsidizing 40 million illegal invaders and parasites... Why opposing this isn't a winnable platform for the GOP is beyond absurd. The Democrat House and 60 person majority in the Senate voted the Dream Act down in 2010. Why didn't 0buma act then? Hmmm....Because he was already shoving 0bumaCare down everyone's throat and spending $800 gazillion on the phony stimulus to his pals? It might have made him seem a bit greedy. /s
It doesn't matter who is President or who controls the Congress, they are not going to round up upwards of 15 million people and deport them. It's not even feasible to do this without turning the country into a jack-booted police state. Anyone who thinks otherwise is delusional. Where in the Consitution does it give the federal government the power to stop you and ask for your papers? No where.
I stand on principles. Obviously, you don't. You want Mittey the Monster? OK, go punch your chad-puncher down his dangling hole. It means nothing to me anymore. You are the epitome of modern political consciousness; you are a disgrace to America and why this nation has lost its once proud individual merits.
Obama's watch stopped on 24 May 2008, but he's been too busy smoking crack to notice.
That's 40 million. Secondly, IF they had begun the process of deporation of illegal invaders during Dubya Bush's phony "War on Terror," this mess would already have been cleaned up 8 years ago. Yes, it is not only "feasible," but a necessary act. That is IF you still desire ONE nation under God instead of a Balkanized America that instead is an international host to 40 million parasites. The illegal invader demographics have not only ensured the hijacking of the most important state in the Union: California, but have FUBARed the entire economy and law & order in states, towns, and neighborhoods from coast-to-coast, Canada-to-Mexico. Anyone who thinks otherwise is delusional. That would be those of us NOT ready, willing, and able to bend over for the Statists. I guess you;re signing on, eh? Where in the Consitution does it give the federal government the power to stop you and ask for your papers? No where. That's hilarious!! So you opposed "stopping" the illegal invasion. Demanding ID for social services and drivers licensing? Duly noted. We'll just ignore ALL the immigration laws, state laws, and municipal laws, ok? By the way: Section 1325 in Title 8 of the United States Code, "Improper entry of alien", provides for a fine, imprisonment, or both for any immigrant who: 1. enters or attempts to enter the United States at any time or place other than as designated by immigration agents, or Hey - answer THIS question: Why bother having ANY border or laws or representative government?
That kind of indifference might explain why you're quite willing to accept 0buma for ANOTHER Commie-Fascist 4 years. NICE "principle" on display right there.
Again Hondo, the questions here are which option is more of a liklihood between re-taking the GOP or support of a Third Party FOR THE HERE AND NOW... a) Which is easier to facilitate? b) Will an effective winnable Third Party be a possibility in four years? (time IS just about run out) c) Should we allow the nation to be *totally* cratered by 0buma during the next four years in the meantime as oppose to Romney cratering *half* of it? d) During a Romneyan Statist Presidency, is it possible that the bleeding can be stopped long enough to remove the SOME statists from within the GOP and bowels of Goob and appreciable restoration American nationalism and constitutionalism achieved? If it's assumed the GOP can't be re-tamed from within during Romney's regime, a Third Party candidacy MUST be organized and prepared ASAP. It's a bit late now for that to happen, ain't it? We have two choices: 1) Die today 2) Die another day Was there a third option during this election?
If you vote for MITT, you have no principles; it means you are just another worthless POS poster. My principles about avoiding the other "side" of political gasbags in the American political spectrum is well-noted and shall not be explained again and again and again. Fuck you for attempting to identify me with your 0bama_nation. You are a worthless [POS] but MITT needs your vote. Go enjoy pushing your chad-puncher into his hole.
Absolutely, since the GOP has not nominated a candidate yet. Consider the many possibilities. They could have come up with a better candidate than "the presumptive nominee", by drawing a name out of a hat. Mitt has all of the charisma of Bob Dole, and the anti-American policies of McCain and Bush. IMO he'll lose because he's no different than Obama, and people just don't like either of them. ABM!
Obama's watch stopped on 24 May 2008, but he's been too busy smoking crack to notice.
Like I said, you are delusional. Demanding ID for social services and drivers licensing? Duly noted. You are confusing several things here. I oppose government social services. Getting a driver's license and registering to vote are voluntary acts - the government can and does put rules around participation. This is very different than requiring all Americans to carry a national id card, which is exactly where your anti-Mexican hysteria is going to lead. Why bother having ANY border or laws... When the U.S. was still a free country, we didn't have any border laws. The U.S. Border Patrol was created during the Progressive era in 1915. What a surprise. The federal income tax, Federal Reserve, The Great War (a.k.a. WWI), drug laws, forced sterilizations, Planned Parenthood, and the Border Patrol. I know that this is your kind of government, but it's not mine. The real statists are people like you who are willing to turn the country into a police state, instead solving the real problems.
The real statists are people like you who are willing to turn the country into a police state, instead solving the real problems. If you don't have ANY laws or its enforcement you have chaos & anarchy. Is THAT what you want and who you are? And are you telling me it's ok if Mexicans squat in your living room too and guzzling Corona in YOUR EZ-chair? What if you are unable to remove your visitors?
Great! Can't wait for President Paul's inauguration! (OR will 0buma suffice instead?) Consider the many possibilities. I KNOW there are possibilities, but they aren't probabilities at this point. Didn't you get the "GOP Nomination-is-Fixed" memo yet? Geez...
Borders? We don't need no stinking borders! We are all citizens of the world,comrade! Except for the honkies,of course.
"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011 Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter.
So, the first 130 years of the republic were "chaos and anarchy"? Wow, I didn't know that. Luckily, we had Woodrow Wilson to rescue the country from that living hell.
If anyone enters my house without permission, I'm going to shoot them in the head. I've been reading your words very carefully. Illegal immigration isn't your real issue. Your real issue is anyone who isn't a white protestant. It's very clear.
Heh Heh Heh..... funny...... It is nothing of the sort.... From the President's perspective it is a good political move..... President Obama issues a largely meaningless EO - that will appeal to the Hispanic voting bloc..... that forces the gopers to marginalize the Hispanic voters....or support his position. It's a win-win for Obama and a Lose-Lose for the republicans....... Ok - so for all of you "seal-the-borders" pragmatists..... tell me- would you rather advocate the construction of an "East-German" style border check-point system....(and you think the TSA sexual-assault centers at the airports are bad...)- or alienate the Hispanic vote and have your party's candidates come in second........again?
I agreee with you. And all the POS American presidents do this same antic. What is more important to watch is the timing of the antic. Ever notice the creeping election that is around the corner in time, wherein the same EO has no real purpose anyway?
That said, how and why do you and others continue to rationalize, discount and dismiss the ongoing Scorched Earth policy of 0buma & Co. while presuming Romney will continue 0buma's SAME policies? I haven't personally, and haven't seen anyone (on the right that is) here even attempt to rationalize, discount and dismiss the ongoing Scorched Earth policy of 0buma & Co. As far as "presuming Romney will continue 0buma's SAME policies".... you said it yourself when you said, "The Elite's Fix has been IN regarding these issues - ALL of them." Yes, we will bleed under Romney. Yes. You vote for that, then you own it. Sometime, somewhere, Americans have got to stop voting for that. Not this time you say? Then when? I stopped in 2008 and I will not ever vote for that again.
"If men through fear, fraud or mistake, should in terms renounce and give up any essential natural right, the eternal law of reason and the great end of society, would absolutely vacate such renunciation; the right to freedom being the gift of God Almighty, it is not in the power of Man to alienate this gift, and voluntarily become a slave." Samuel Adams, Rights of the Colonists, 1772
yeah...... Look for several more major policy announcements before November...... Including a deal on the Keystone XL pipeline....which will promise tens of thousands (hundreds of thousands??) of jobs and big pay-offs for the oil companies already invested in the project. Political theater at its best!
Always keep that point in mind. It is always phunney. What is not so phunney, little or nothing is accomplished by the acts of American governance these days other than higher taxes, increased and continuing foreign involvement and a lesser quality of life in America beyond the loss of individual liberties.
If we had a law abiding president, border crossings would be nothing like TSA checkpoints. All they need to check is citizenship, and taxable goods. Since all arms are legal and protected under the second amendment, no groping or X-ray needed at all.
Obama's watch stopped on 24 May 2008, but he's been too busy smoking crack to notice.
When in your own lifetime have YOU are anyone seen a "law abiding president?" There never was such a person or institution or administration.
Ford was a law abiding guy. He also vetoed 5 times as many bills in his 2 1/2 years in office than Bush vetoed in 8 years. Ford doesn't get enough credit for defending the country from the 1974 Democrat class of crazies.
Yeah. Did any objective evidence PROVE his pardons?
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#39. To: Liberator (#37)
I've often opined that our best chance to slow/reverse this globalist uber-statist trend is with the GOP in power.
#40. To: Liberator (#37)
I don't get that so-called "principle" of remaining neutral during this election if we can't dig up the DNA of George Washington.
#41. To: Liberator, buckeroo, Capitalist Eric, We The People, CZ82 (#37)
the electorate needs to wake up and smell the java this time around
"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul
#42. To: hondo68 (#41)
#43. To: CZ82 (#38)
I guarantee you more than that have woken up, the media and politicians know it too.... (that's why they are flailing around like a bunch of chickens with their heads cut off).
#44. To: CZ82, buckeroo, Capitalist Eric, We The People, hondo68 (#39)
And then start taking over the [Republican] party with constitutionalists and slowly but surely get rid of the statists.....
#45. To: buckeroo (#40)
Are you saying that the US Constitution was buried with the founders?
#46. To: Liberator (#45)
#47. To: hondo68 (#41)
Willard M. Romney is a reconquista, running for presidente of Aztlan.
#48. To: buckeroo (#46)
Why did you intentionally omit Mighty Mittey the Monster of Flip/Floppers from your selected cabal of evil doers?
#49. To: Liberator (#47)
That said
#50. To: Brian S (#0)
we must as a species go into a period of shrinkage that we have not experienced since the Dark Ages and the Black Plague -- lucysmom (A.K.A. minnigold)
#51. To: Liberator (#48)
#52. To: TooConservative, Zesta (#19)
Rubio released a statement today saying:
#53. To: buckeroo (#49)
Re-read your That said post, statist. You have no principles at all.
#54. To: jwpegler (#50)
This was all about undercutting Rubio.
#55. To: Liberator (#52)
Here HE is making a mockery of the Constitution
we must as a species go into a period of shrinkage that we have not experienced since the Dark Ages and the Black Plague -- lucysmom (A.K.A. minnigold)
#56. To: Liberator (#53)
(Edited)
#57. To: Liberator, CZ82, buckeroo, Capitalist Eric, We The People, *The Two Parties ARE the Same* (#44)
"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul
#58. To: jwpegler (#55)
It doesn't matter who is President or who controls the Congress, they are not going to round up upwards of 15 million people and deport them. It's not even feasible to do this without turning the country into a jack-booted police state.
2. eludes examination or inspection by immigration agents, or
3. attempts to enter or obtains entry to the United States by a willfully false or misleading representation or the willful concealment of a material fact.
#59. To: buckeroo (#56)
It means nothing to me anymore.
#60. To: hondo68 (#57)
#61. To: Liberator (#59)
(Edited)
NICE "principle" on display right there.
#62. To: Liberator (#60)
Was there a third option during this election?
"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul
#63. To: Liberator (#58)
(Edited)
Yes, it is not only "feasible," but a necessary act.
we must as a species go into a period of shrinkage that we have not experienced since the Dark Ages and the Black Plague -- lucysmom (A.K.A. minnigold)
#64. To: jwpegler (#63)
The federal income tax, Federal Reserve, The Great War (a.k.a. WWI), drug laws, forced sterilizations, Planned Parenthood, and the Border Patrol. I know that this is your kind of government, but it's not mine...
#65. To: hondo68 (#62)
ABM!
#66. To: Brian S (#0)
#67. To: Liberator (#64)
If you don't have ANY laws or its enforcement you have chaos & anarchy.
we must as a species go into a period of shrinkage that we have not experienced since the Dark Ages and the Black Plague -- lucysmom (A.K.A. minnigold)
#68. To: Liberator (#64)
(Edited)
And are you telling me it's ok if Mexicans squat in your living room
we must as a species go into a period of shrinkage that we have not experienced since the Dark Ages and the Black Plague -- lucysmom (A.K.A. minnigold)
#69. To: Liberator (#1)
Another dictatorial EO that violates the US Constitutional (aka that G-D piece of paper).
#70. To: Jameson (#69)
From the President's perspective it is a good political move.....
#71. To: Liberator (#21)
The Elite's Fix has been IN regarding these issues - ALL of them: universal health care, gun restrictions (for "crazies" - a GOOD law, btw), creating fake wars, the Patriot Act, TARP, allowing the illegal invasion, colluding with the Federal Reserve, shipping the economy off in a coffin to China, etc ad nauseam.
#72. To: buckeroo (#70)
What is more important to watch is the timing of the antic...
#73. To: Jameson (#72)
Political theater at its best!
#74. To: Jameson (#69)
advocate the construction of an "East-German" style border check-point system....(and you think the TSA sexual-assault centers at the airports are bad...)
"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul
#75. To: hondo68 (#74)
If we had a law abiding president ...
#76. To: buckeroo (#75)
(Edited)
When in your own lifetime have YOU are anyone seen a "law abiding president?"
we must as a species go into a period of shrinkage that we have not experienced since the Dark Ages and the Black Plague -- lucysmom (A.K.A. minnigold)
#77. To: Brian S (#0)
#78. To: jwpegler (#76)
Ford was a law abiding guy.
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