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Title: Why Socialism Isn’t Biblical — What Liberals Don’t Get
Source: PU.com
URL Source: http://patriotupdate.com/articles/w ... iblical-what-liberals-dont-get
Published: Jun 14, 2012
Author: Tad Cronn
Post Date: 2012-06-14 21:44:18 by CZ82
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Comments: 7

Why Socialism Isn’t Biblical — What Liberals Don’t Get

Written on Thursday, June 14, 2012 by Tad Cronn

A former associate of mine posted a cartoon the other day that said, “Church: where Republicans go to worship a long-haired socialist hippie who condemned the rich and told people to pay taxes.”

I see this sort of thing a lot from my left-wing friends and others who don’t seem to know much about the Bible but are mightily convinced that it talks about Jesus being a socialist.

Recently, Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi, who is as socialist as they come yet calls herself a Catholic, went so far as to say that Catholic archdioceses that have opposed President Obama’s contraceptives mandate — itself part of the biggest piece of socialist legislation to come down the pike in years — don’t represent the church.

There’s no end of left-leaning churchgoers or of entire denominations that have gone over to modern liberalism. So there must be good reason, right?

Actually, the Bible is unabashedly pro-capitalist (although our American form of capitalism doesn’t follow biblical principles, which is part of the reason we’re in our current mess).

From the proclamation “six days shall you work” to the Parable of the Talents in Matthew 25:14-28, the Bible promotes the virtue of honest work and the joys of making a profit from that work.

But didn’t Jesus tell rich people to give up all their riches and follow him?

A few times, Jesus did say that, the best known probably being the “eye of the needle” speech.

But was he really saying that rich people couldn’t follow him, or that his followers could never be rich?

No. Take the case of the rich ruler in Luke 18:18-25:

“And a ruler asked him, ‘Good Teacher, what must I do to inherit eternal life?’ And Jesus said to him, ‘Why do you call me good? No one is good except God alone. You know the commandments: “Do not commit adultery, Do not murder, Do not steal, Do not bear false witness, Honor your father and mother.”‘ And he said, ‘All these I have kept from my youth.’ When Jesus heard this, he said to him, ‘One thing you still lack. Sell all that you have and distribute to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven; and come, follow me.’ But when he heard these things, he became very sad, for he was extremely rich. Jesus, seeing that he had become sad, said, ‘How difficult it is for those who have wealth to enter the kingdom of God! For it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich person to enter the kingdom of God.’”

Follow the conversation closely. Jesus begins by noting the deliberate flattery and stating that no one is good but God, then tells the ruler to follow the commandments. When the ruler says that he has done so, he expects more from Jesus. In other words, the rich ruler assumes there is something special that he can do beyond that which God has commanded of everyone else. The implicit assumption the ruler is making is that he deserves guaranteed entry into heaven before others — in modern terms, he basically wants to reserve the best table for himself.

Jesus apparently picks up on this attitude and tells the man the last thing he wants to hear — that he must give up that which he most prizes, his wealth. It’s the very thing that makes the ruler feel he is special, more deserving than others. In other words, Jesus is really telling the ruler that if he wants to follow, then he needs to bring his ego back down to earth with the “regular” people. This isn’t about money, it’s about pride.

Then Jesus reflects that many wealthy people have the same problem. They’re too attached to their wealth, and it produces exactly the same sort of pride that the ruler had, making it easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle. (Incidentally, “camel” may be a mistranslation. In Aramaic, the word “gamla” apparently meant both “camel” and “rope” as ropes were made of camel hair.)

But, desperate socialists may point out, didn’t the Apostles of Jesus live in a communal fashion, sharing their wealth and distributing to everyone according to his need?

This is true also.

Liberals point to that and various passages about giving up your riches to share with others as proof that Jesus supported socialism. In the first century, after Christ ascended into heaven, the Apostles did adopt a communal lifestyle where all were equal and anyone in need could count on the community’s help.

The very model of socialism and communism, right? Except for one minor detail.

“Honor the Lord with your wealth and with the firstfruits of all your produce; then your barns will be filled with plenty, and your vats will be bursting with wine.” — Proverbs 3:9-10.

The center of Christian communal life was, and continues to be, Jesus. The entire community organizes itself not around economics but around Jesus’ example. Such communities are in existence today. Members pray a lot, hold the same religious views, tend to wear robes and live a spartan existence.

Most socialists wouldn’t like that sort of thing, as God is usually the first casualty of the liberal lifestyle — or at least any notion of a god who actually expects moral behavior. Socialists generally expect their government gods to pay for a car, cable TV, cell phone, possibly an Xbox, etc.

God can hold a community together; Marx or Alinsky can’t without the threat of violence, as over 100 million people killed under atheistic communism demonstrate.

Socialists who would still attempt to find support in the Bible’s teachings for their political views should start with Ecclesiastes 10:2 — “The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left.”


Poster Comment:

“The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left.”---- Even 2,000 years ago they knew that those on the Left were fools!!!! LOL....

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#1. To: CZ82 (#0)

Bible Study

Jesus loves me this I know....;}

And nuclear reactor meltdown is covered where in the bible?

This is Planet Hell.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-15   9:07:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: mcgowanjm, CZ82 (#1) (Edited)

And nuclear reactor meltdown is covered where in the bible?

Armageddon?

Armageddon Apocalypse?

harrowup  posted on  2012-06-15   9:10:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: harrowup (#2)

Armageddon?

No. That would be conflagration.

Nuke meltdowns just sit there and the people quietly go about their bizness with decades taken off their life span...;}

Or what happens when people fill up the planet from being fruitful and eating all the other animals?

Planet Hell.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-15   9:13:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Stoner (#0)

Self Ping

Stoner  posted on  2012-06-15   10:29:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: CZ82, A K A Stone (#0)

You can easily argue for early Christian communes as examples of a failed socialist experiment.

Recall the old stories about the early Christians, confronting the pagans: "You hold nothing in common but your wives. We hold everything in common but our wives."

This may not have been uniform in the early churches but the evidence for it is pretty strong.

You also see the repeated references to sending money for the relief of the Jerusalem church. This was because the Christians in Jerusalem were taking in everyone who came, to shelter and feed. So a lot of people like widows, orphans, freed slaves, and others got dumped on them to feed/shelter. Hence the constant appeals for charity in scripture until the destruction of Jerusalem in 70 A.D.

Tooconservative  posted on  2012-06-15   10:44:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: mcgowanjm, redleghunter (#1)

This is Planet Hell.

According to the Bible, you DO know who was given dominion over this world, right?

Given free-will by our Creator, man's natural inclination is to do what? Sin.

Adam and Eve are us. Though they lived in a perfect Eden they were STILL seduced by Satan who told them (who also happens to whispers to us every single day): "Greed is good!", "Do it if it feels good!" and worst of all, "Be your own God!". At man's worst, he enslaves each other AND himself. Physically AND spiritually.

And YOU wanna know why this is "Planet Hell"? (If you think THIS is bad Jimmy, think about the "gnashing of teeth" forever.)

Thus...Will you humble yourself and prepare for the NEXT world, or will you succumb to another of Satan's great lies that THIS world is all there is, AND that you don't control your ultimate fate?

Or are you going to let the chips fall where they may come Judgment Day?

Liberator  posted on  2012-06-15   11:00:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: CZ82, all (#0)

Liberals point to that and various passages about giving up your riches to share with others as proof that Jesus supported socialism. In the first century, after Christ ascended into heaven, the Apostles did adopt a communal lifestyle where all were equal and anyone in need could count on the community’s help.

The very model of socialism and communism, right? Except for one minor detail.

“Honor the Lord with your wealth and with the firstfruits of all your produce; then your barns will be filled with plenty, and your vats will be bursting with wine.” — Proverbs 3:9-10.

Excellent post in its entirety, CZ!

In other words, Jesus is really telling the ruler that if he wants to follow, then he needs to bring his ego back down to earth with the “regular” people. This isn’t about money, it’s about pride.

Scripture and Jesus never condemned wealth; Only the worship of it and its priority with respect to Eternal Life. Scripture and Jesus condemned "idle hands", "sloth," and "envy"; commanded hard, honest work that produced fruits of our labor (aka "wealth".)

The entitlement philosophy of Communists and Socialists break a number of Ten Commandments (KJV):

Thou shalt have no other gods before me.

(Commies and Socialist believe the Goobermint IS "God".)

Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above...

(Frankly, many Americans worship flags, seals, statues, and other symbols)

Thou shalt not kill.

(except IF you have what Commies and Socialists feel entitled to)

Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour

(unless they are Communitah Organizers, Progressive Democrats, and Democrat Presidents, Congressmen, Senators, and Attorney Generals)

Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour’s house, thou shalt not covet thy neighbour’s wife, nor his manservant, nor his maidservant, nor his ox, nor his ass, nor any thing that is thy neighbour’s.

(THIS is the most obvious shattering of the Ten Commandments by Commies, Socialists, and those who abide in the entitlement mentality...)

Liberator  posted on  2012-06-15   11:25:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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