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Title: Here listen christines point of view.
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URL Source: http://freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=146916&Disp=63#C63
Published: Jun 8, 2012
Author: christine
Post Date: 2012-06-08 18:54:00 by A K A Stone
Keywords: None
Views: 40925
Comments: 76

good posts, both of you. you make some very astute points. there's one point that i think you're missing here and, that is, that many of us are disappointed again in what we see as a lack of honesty here not that we expected Ron Paul to be our saviour. i think all of us on 4um are more realistic than that. this is a repeat of 2008 when Ron Paul pulled out just before the Texas primary. we were led to believe that he had a delegate strategy. now with this, he's pulled the rug out from under all those who worked to become delegates and who planned to cast a vote for him at the convention. he pulled up short again and i am certain that that it was not a sudden decision.

imo, he and Rand both owe his many, many supporters an immediate explanation.

and one more thing...how is it after all the criticism of Romney heretofore can the Pauls suddenly do a 180 and endorse him (assuming Ron plans to also)? that to me is an abandonment of his principles.

christine posted on 2012-06-08


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#1. To: A K A Stone (#0)

Maybe you could go over to 4um if you're so interested. I doubt christine will reply over here.

Tooconservative  posted on  2012-06-08   19:15:04 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: TooConservative (#1)

Stonie is banned at 4UM. He is for Zionism and the undue influence they have in Washington, and this conflicts with the general sentiments at 4UM.

I'm a poster there and would ping her for him, but she has made it very plain he has a perma-ban, and that stepping in one of mad Dog's puppy poops is more pleasant an experience then conversing with him.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2012-06-08   19:37:49 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Ferret Mike (#2)

Mike you are a dumb ass. Their problem is with real christians. Dumbass. Spit. Sock. Punch Blam.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-06-08   19:48:57 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: A K A Stone, Ferret Mike (#5)

Their problem is with real christians.

The evangelical clergy almost swoon over Rand.

There was a stop-Romney meeting of all the big megachurch pastors and those with a big political following like Focus on the Family, back when Perry was still in the race. Sort of the Protestant's Last Stand (except Santorum was allowed in). The campaigns all sent representatives to this shindig. Ron Paul's guy didn't find much interest in Ron, some scattered positive remarks but no real support, but he reported that every single person they talked to spoke glowingly about Rand, how much they liked him, the way he spoke, the strong stands he takes, the way he speaks with a certain moral authority. He speaks their language, shares their concepts. Even the mild Kentucky accent appeals to them.

Think for a moment: if you could roll together a candidate that appealed to the Huckabee crowd and the Paulian Horde and you controlled the Iowa GOP, had strong party insider connections of New Hampshire (because no one faction controls the NH GOP), and then you had Jim DeMint backing you in South Carolina, wouldn't that make for a formidable campaign for the nomination? Add to that the many states where Ron Paul supporters have embedded themselves throughout the GOP state organizations, much as the evangelicals did back in the Nineties.

It could be formidable. You might even unseat a Prez Romney in 2016 if he has betrayed the conservative base.

Unlike Ron, Rand has no problems with the Religious Right. For one thing, Rand never says on national TV that heroin should be legal; that would be Ron. They respond warmly to him. It isn't just policy positions or personality; they recognize Rand shares their values, speaks their language, values what they value. He's someone they're very comfortable with supporting. Even while endorsing Romney, you see Rand building on this narrative, talking about being in large families, the values of family men, discussing policy very broadly within a family context. Very churchy in appeal and Rand pulls it off with perfect confidence and aplomb. This is why they like him so much.

The clergy just gobble that stuff up. And that is something that Ron, bless his heart, could never pull off.

Tooconservative  posted on  2012-06-08   20:13:54 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#22. To: TooConservative (#8)

I won't quote anything from you. But you know what is going on.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-06-08 22:53:02 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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