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Title: Here listen christines point of view.
Source: [None]
URL Source: http://freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=146916&Disp=63#C63
Published: Jun 8, 2012
Author: christine
Post Date: 2012-06-08 18:54:00 by A K A Stone
Keywords: None
Views: 37698
Comments: 76

good posts, both of you. you make some very astute points. there's one point that i think you're missing here and, that is, that many of us are disappointed again in what we see as a lack of honesty here not that we expected Ron Paul to be our saviour. i think all of us on 4um are more realistic than that. this is a repeat of 2008 when Ron Paul pulled out just before the Texas primary. we were led to believe that he had a delegate strategy. now with this, he's pulled the rug out from under all those who worked to become delegates and who planned to cast a vote for him at the convention. he pulled up short again and i am certain that that it was not a sudden decision.

imo, he and Rand both owe his many, many supporters an immediate explanation.

and one more thing...how is it after all the criticism of Romney heretofore can the Pauls suddenly do a 180 and endorse him (assuming Ron plans to also)? that to me is an abandonment of his principles.

christine posted on 2012-06-08


Poster Comment: Total lightweight airhead.

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#17. To: A K A Stone (#0)

Total lightweight airhead.

Stone, are you fucking serious? I would side ANYDAY with christine based on her known values and principles. She is absolutely correct. You are a dismal pain in the ass chit chat channel manager that falls off of roofs.

buckeroo  posted on  2012-06-08   22:39:50 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: buckeroo (#17)

"Stone, are you fucking serious? I would side ANYDAY with christine based on her known values and principles. She is absolutely correct. You are a dismal pain in the ass chit chat channel manager that falls off of roofs."

I agree Buck... even about the part about being a human lawn dart is no boast; be it from a tree or a roof. ;-D

Ferret Mike  posted on  2012-06-08   22:43:14 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Ferret Mike, A K A Stone (#18)

Stone is well known to fall off of roofs pretending to be a contractor. As a result he carries his delusional stat-of-mind to the forum.

buckeroo  posted on  2012-06-08   22:49:29 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: buckeroo (#20) (Edited)

"Stone is well known to fall off of roofs pretending to be a contractor. As a result he carries his delusional stat-of-mind to the forum."

Yeah, he did say he only hires lops who agree with him politically. Or at least say they do to get the under the table work. I'm sure that after a day on a job site with him many of them go home and tell the wife, "The things I do to make money."

Ferret Mike  posted on  2012-06-08   22:56:50 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Ferret Mike (#23)

Why does Stone have his nose up christine's ass in the first place? Why is importing a comment, posting it and playing .... AND HE TOOK HOURS TO READ THE STUFF to begin with.

buckeroo  posted on  2012-06-08   23:19:26 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: buckeroo (#24)

#59. To: A K A Stone (#0)

don't think that i don't realize what your intention was in starting this thread.

1. to bait without desire of temperate discussion.

2. an attempt to get posters to your forum.

3. to incite conflict between forums.

if it weren't for the fact that there are good comments by posters here, i would delete the thread.

christine posted on 2011-07-12 21:41:09 ET [Locked] Trace Private Reply

http://freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=135605&Disp=59#C59

Stone hates it because a smart woman who can dispassionately cut to the chase in an articulate way few forum owners can match rhetorically cleaned his clock.

She summed up Stone oh so well in this reality check he was asking for. I remember when I first read it; I laughed so hard I ached. He is an idiot.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2012-06-09   9:47:35 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: Ferret Mike (#32)

Keep in mind, that christine is "passionate" as you say. Sometimes she can be rash and a wee bit irritable as well.

buckeroo  posted on  2012-06-09   11:38:32 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: buckeroo (#34)

"Keep in mind, that christine is "passionate" as you say. Sometimes she can be rash and a wee bit irritable as well."

Well, neither you or I am any more perfect than the next human being, so that is a given.

But in that case, she handled Stone's gambit to do what he wanted to do with that vanity thread. That is my point.

And I want Stone to rebut this directly which is a purpose to my post. I certainly don't tweak his beak any worse then he has done himself.

He can rebut the post, too and I will listen to and respond to his feedback.

But he can't 'command' me to do anything as he explicitly tried to do in a recent vanity thread header. That merely amuses me,

Ferret Mike  posted on  2012-06-09   11:56:44 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: Ferret Mike (#38)

Stone continuously went to 4um for no other reason but to TROLL some archaic BS about elevating Jews to a pristine platform of never-ending-love&respect.

Stone, often goes off on a tangent (particularly when he falls off of roof-tops) and hits his head.

The Jews are no more to be trusted than a crook in a federal penitentiary.

buckeroo  posted on  2012-06-09   12:10:54 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: buckeroo (#40) (Edited)

I read Leon Iris as a boy and used to be enamored with Israel too. But in the activism I did in the 1980s against South African Apartheid I became aware of the Israel and SA connection which led me to do a closer look at what Zionism is, and why it resonated so well with what I hated about South Africa under the Nationalist Party Apartheid government.

I strongly oppose Zionism. But I refuse to engage in blanket bigotry of an entire religion because of that.

I just want it clear where I stand; it is against a bad philosophy and policy, not an entire people.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2012-06-09   12:19:11 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: Ferret Mike (#41)

But I refuse to engage in blanket bigotry of an entire religion because of that.

Oh BS, the Jews started off as goat herders in the desert. And then Abraham screwed his wife (both were about 100 years old) and had a baby.

Do you believe that crap? They lied from the beginning of time.

buckeroo  posted on  2012-06-09   12:29:48 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: buckeroo (#42)

Abraham screwed his wife (both were about 100 years old) and had a baby.

Do you believe that crap?

Abraham was quite shocked himself...

But again, whatever natural forces (God's own rules) that were altered and allowed man's life-span to be hundreds of years instead of today's 85 years old...were in effect. Evidently, even both Sarah and Abraham were shocked that a woman of 100 years old (still apparently "too old" even back in those days) could bear a child.

Why dismiss the Creator's power to change his own natural laws and planet for reasons ONLY he knows??

Liberator  posted on  2012-06-10   19:34:11 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#66. To: Liberator (#62)

Why dismiss the Creator's power to change his own natural laws and planet for reasons ONLY he knows??

How do you know that the Creator changed anything? That you believe in a myth? How profound is that?

The story of Abraham and Sarah defy: common sense, scientific fact and any collaboration of any source other than the Jewish fables called the Torah; the Torah was written about 500BC (after the Jewish EXILE to Babylon) based on hearsay from generations of goat herders that just made the stuff up.

The Jews learned educational concepts that were applicable to themselves from the Babylons, too. Hence, the written word for protestants called the Old Testament.

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