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Title: The Walker Vote Earthquake
Source: TAS.org
URL Source: http://spectator.org/archives/2012/06/07/the-walker-vote-earthquake
Published: Jun 7, 2012
Author: Peter Hannaford
Post Date: 2012-06-07 07:00:35 by CZ82
Keywords: None
Views: 4123
Comments: 22

The Walker Vote Earthquake

By Peter Hannaford on 6.7.12 @ 6:07AM

The beginning of the end for public employee unions at the state and local level.

"Walker Survives Wisconsin Recall Vote," read the tepid headline in Wednesday's New York Times. Governor Scott Walker, however, did much more than survive. He defeated his rival, Tom Barrett, convincingly. His lieutenant governor did the same in her recall election. Significantly, this election marks the beginning of the end for dominance of state, county and city budgets by public employee unions.

Lost in the Wisconsin coverage is the fact that Tuesday's election brought overwhelming votes elsewhere in favor of reducing overly-generous public employee pensions. In California, voters in two large cities decided enough was enough. San Jose voters passed Measure B by 71-to-29 percent. In San Diego, they endorsed Proposition B by 67-to-33 percent. In recent years both cities had been forced to cut back on libraries, recreation centers, fire and police services in the face of galloping pension liabilities. San Diego saw its annual contribution to pensions go from $43 million in 1999 to $231 this year, soaking up 20 percent of the city's budget. In San Jose it went from $73 million in 2001 to $245 million this year -- equal to 27 percent of the budget.

These events offer the necessary will to elected officials across the nation to pass reforms that will bring public employee pensions and health care contributions into line with private ones.

The process has already begun. In California, signatures have been gathered for a voter initiative, "Stop Special Interests," on the November ballot that, if passed, would break the umbilical cord between the state treasury and union treasuries. In California, among others, the state deducts union dues from public employee paychecks and sends these directly to the unions, thus saving them the need to persuade public employees to sign up to let the union bosses use their money in elections. This is the umbilical cord and the California unions have used it to become the most powerful special interest in Sacramento, having great influence over the Democrat-controlled state legislature.

What happens when the umbilical cord is broken? It happened in Wisconsin last year as part of Governor Walker's reform legislation. Dues stopped flowing from the state treasury to the unions. They had to sell their services to the workers.

Result: dues paying is down to 28 percent of the Wisconsin public work force.

Across the country, voter discontent has been building against overly-generous public employee benefits. Declining revenues in the recession sharpened public focus, along with the realization that, in many cases, these benefits had become far greater than they are in the private sector. In short, it began to look as if the taxpayers were working for their own employees.

What will the public employee unions do? Reeling from this loss, it is unlikely they will try another vengeance move such as the Walker recall. They also face a daunting task if many legislatures, county boards, and city councils propose reform measures, especially ones on the ballot for voters who are in no mood to continue "business as usual."


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"Across the country, voter discontent has been building against overly-generous public employee benefits"---- For quite sometime actually!!!

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#1. To: CZ82 (#0)

"Across the country, voter discontent has been building against overly-generous public employee benefits"---- For quite sometime actually!!!

Don't you live in Ohio? What happened there? Kentucky? Missouri? New Mexico?

I'll believe that a corporation is a person 1 second after Texas executes one...

war  posted on  2012-06-07   7:48:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: CZ82 (#0)

Result: dues paying is down to 28 percent of the Wisconsin public work force.

For many in WI, their old union contracts haven't expired yet or the number would be much much higher. A few of the biggest unions representing the most employees in WI renegotiated 4-year contracts just after Walker was elected. Apparently, his reforms apply mostly to new union contracts.

The .gov entities that didn't sign these contracts are the ones who have saved the most money and who have seen the biggest drop in union membership.

When Daniels in Indiana abolished public unions by executive order in 2006, union membership dropped 90% in only a few months. (Indiana had established collective bargaining by unions via executive order so Daniels just abolished it the day after he was sworn in as governor in 2007; Roy Blunt did the same thing as governor of Missouri.)

After the next few years, WI unions will suffer the same fate as they did in Indiana.

Tooconservative  posted on  2012-06-07   7:53:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: CZ82 (#0)

So the fact that I demonstrated....hondo88 told me to lighten up even....;) ....that Every election since 1968 has been gamed by the PTB,

you STILL think that the Bottom 99% just can't help themselves and are once agaon going to vote against their interests.

Even going out in one of the Most heavily attended, non regular voting events of the last 30 years.....;}

please.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-07   9:27:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: CZ82 (#0)

Title: WI Milwaukee Calls In Extra Poll Workers Amid Heavy Turnout Source: jsonline.com

URL Source: http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/news/ ... 1&pageSize=10&sort=newestfirst Published: Jun 5, 2012 Author: By Larry Sandler and Nicole Levy

Post Date: 2012-06-05 15:37:26 by Brian S Ping List: *Elections 2012* Subscribe to *Elections 2012* Keywords: None

YEah. And 62% of that Labor/Union vote goes to Barrett.

37% vote for arch nemesis 'I'm going to cut you wages in Corporation v Single aspirant' Walker.

Right.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-07   9:29:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: CZ82 (#0)

As I've been saying, the real divide in America is not between the so-called 1% and 99%. It's between all of us and the greedy government bureaucrats.

The good people of Wisconsin, San Diego, and San Jose agree.


we must as a species go into a period of shrinkage that we have not experienced since the Dark Ages and the Black Plague -- lucysmom (A.K.A. minnigold)

jwpegler  posted on  2012-06-07   13:16:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: CZ82, mcgowanjm (#3)

.

Ever notice that communists like mctoejam HATE individuals?

We're supposed to just shut up and get with the commie program, (1% 99%), like mctoejam has.

Ain't gonna happen snookums.

EVER.

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-06-07   13:46:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: CZ82, mcgowanjm (#4)

.

One reason to REALLY LOVE GOVERNOR WALKER IS BECAUASE COMMIE SCUM LIKE MCTOEJAM GET SPIT FLECKED WHEN TALKING ABOUT HIM!

Hey mctoejam! the people of Wisconsin bitch slapped you commie bitches down like the SCUM that you are.

No wages were cut SCUM, no jobs were lost SCUM, the people's TAXES went DOWN, and the budget surplus went UP SCUM.

Be afraid SCUM, be VERY afraid.

We AMERICANS are coming to bitch slap you down SCUM wherever you stink up the air.

THIS is just a faint reflection of what is going to happen to ALL of you SCUM and your messiah "king" obammy in NOVEMBER bitch!

I look forward to your epic blather freak out when your messiah "king" obammy hits the bricks SCUM.

THAT will be GOOD!

ROTFLMAOAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

SCUM

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-06-07   13:57:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: war (#1)

Don't you live in Ohio?

Issue 2 I.E. Senate Bill 5 went down because the unions had enough money to saturate the airwaves with their lies (that Kasick was gonna fire all the cops and firemen) about what was actually in the bill and that scared some people half to death...

But Issue 3 "Say NO to ObamaCare" (Which by the way the unions said nothing about so the truth managed to get out) passed with 66% of the vote!!! Go figure..

Political Bumper Stickers: The fastest way in the world to let people know you are a total dumbass.... Total number of Obama 2012 bumper stickers I've seen so far......5!! Total number of Romney 2012 bumper stickers I've seen so far...0!!

CZ82  posted on  2012-06-07   16:34:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: CZ82 (#8)

Issue 2 I.E. Senate Bill 5 went down because the unions had enough money to saturate the airwaves with their lies (that Kasick was gonna fire all the cops and firemen) about what was actually in the bill and that scared some people half to death...

This is what Democrats always do when anyone tries to reign in out of control government spending.

The Democrats have nothing to offer but fear itself.


we must as a species go into a period of shrinkage that we have not experienced since the Dark Ages and the Black Plague -- lucysmom (A.K.A. minnigold)

jwpegler  posted on  2012-06-07   16:51:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: war (#1) (Edited)

Don't you live in Ohio?

Right after Issue 2 (SB 5) went down to defeat they came out with a chart that showed how the vote went county by county.... Counties where the population had a lot of experience with unions (I.E. cities and towns that had been devastated by the GM plants leaving) voted "FOR" Issue 2, counties that didn't have much experience with unions were the ones who believed all the fear mongering and voted it down.... Around Dayton itself where they've lost 6 or 7 automobile plants and numerous union jobs in the last 25 years, almost every last county voted "FOR" Issue 2!!!! They knew it was stupid to vote for someone who doesn't care about you and outsourced your job overseas....

Even though GM got bailed out there are still retired GM employees who still haven't found out for sure if they're gonna get to keep their retirements or not...... three years after the bailout!!!! (Guess the unions haven't figured out yet if they are going to uphold their obligations to their ex-employees or give the money away as campaign contributions to help get another Leftard douchebag politician elected.... Or then again maybe the union executives need a few more houses on the French Riviera).....

Want another little tidbit, the union I work for just had it's elections on Monday.... president, treasurer, etc..etc.... One of the guys running for President ran his campaign around "Lowering" union dues and ensuring that they would not go for political campaign contributions anymore....... he won going away with over 80% of the vote....... I also think he will try to use some of those dues to help fix the shortages in the retirement program, it's currently underfunded.... (Sounds like he wants to break away from the national Union we are affiliated with). Now whether he will end up as part of some new flyover bridge being built over I75 sometime in the future remains to be seen....

Last little tidbit, most of the problems that cities and states are having with budget deficits are not from entitlements given out like Welfare, Food Stamps and Medicaid..... it's caused by the government union contracts and retirement programs!!!!! When more and more people figure this out you will see the government unions go the way of the dinosaur......

Political Bumper Stickers: The fastest way in the world to let people know you are a total dumbass.... Total number of Obama 2012 bumper stickers I've seen so far......5!! Total number of Romney 2012 bumper stickers I've seen so far...0!!

CZ82  posted on  2012-06-08   7:24:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: jwpegler (#9)

The Democrats have nothing to offer but fear itself.

And their "FAKE" empathy!!! OOhhh and don't forget about stupidity!!!

Political Bumper Stickers: The fastest way in the world to let people know you are a total dumbass.... Total number of Obama 2012 bumper stickers I've seen so far......5!! Total number of Romney 2012 bumper stickers I've seen so far...0!!

CZ82  posted on  2012-06-08   7:25:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: CZ82 (#10)

I'd like to see that...IIRC, from what I read in the week thereafter is that the SW and NW parts of the state were the only areas where support was fairly widespread...

In other words, areas of Ohio no one cares about...

But I'd still like to see that county by county assessment...

I'll believe that a corporation is a person 1 second after Texas executes one...

war  posted on  2012-06-08   7:59:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Mad Dog, All (#7)

GET SPIT FLECKED WHEN TALKING ABOUT HIM!

Just like Yukon.

I taught him to cuss. But he was Always uncomfortable with it....;}

to the very end.....8D

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-08   9:11:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: war (#12) (Edited)

In other words, areas no one cares about...

You mean like NYC???

Political Bumper Stickers: The fastest way in the world to let people know you are a total dumbass.... Total number of Obama 2012 bumper stickers I've seen so far......5!! Total number of Romney 2012 bumper stickers I've seen so far...0!!

CZ82  posted on  2012-06-08   13:32:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: mcgowanjm (#13) (Edited)

apply as needed

.

One reason to REALLY LOVE GOVERNOR WALKER IS BECAUSE COMMIE SCUM LIKE MCTOEJAM GET SPIT FLECKED WHEN TALKING ABOUT HIM!

Hey mctoejam! the people of Wisconsin bitch slapped you commie bitches down like the SCUM that you are.

No wages were cut SCUM, no jobs were lost SCUM, the people's TAXES went DOWN, and the budget surplus went UP SCUM.

Be afraid SCUM, be VERY afraid.

We AMERICANS are coming to bitch slap you down SCUM wherever you stink up the air.

THIS is just a faint reflection of what is going to happen to ALL of you SCUM and your messiah "king" obammy in NOVEMBER bitch!

I look forward to your epic blather freak out when your messiah "king" obammy hits the bricks SCUM.

THAT will be GOOD!

ROTFLMAOAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

SCUM

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-06-08   15:08:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: CZ82 (#14)

NYC has 8MM people and sends a shitload of money to Albany AND DC that it does not get back.

I'll believe that a corporation is a person 1 second after Texas executes one...

war  posted on  2012-06-08   15:16:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: war (#16)

NYC has 8MM people and sends a shitload of money to Albany AND DC that it does not get back.

So are you saying you like giving all that money to crooks, liars and parasites???

Political Bumper Stickers: The fastest way in the world to let people know you are a total dumbass.... Total number of Obama 2012 bumper stickers I've seen so far......5!! Total number of Romney 2012 bumper stickers I've seen so far...0!!

CZ82  posted on  2012-06-08   16:43:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: CZ82 (#17)

So are you saying you like giving all that money to crooks, liars and parasites???

How much we spend on defense is a real issue with me, yes.

I'll believe that a corporation is a person 1 second after Texas executes one...

war  posted on  2012-06-09   10:37:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: war (#18)

Pardon my protocol violation. Off topic.

I read that George Zimmerman had a second US passport after he thought he lost his first passport - he reapplied for one.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2012-06-09   10:42:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Fred Mertz (#19)

Sorry to jump in out of line but just saw this on Journalist Express, haven't had time to read it, but it may relate to some of our own questions.

www.cnn.com/2012/06/09/us...rse-treatment/index.html? eref=rss_topstories&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed% 3A+rss%2Fcnn_topstories+%28RSS%3A+Top+Stories%29

harrowup  posted on  2012-06-09   11:33:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: war (#18)

How much we spend on defense is a real issue with me, yes.

So you don't mind giving your money to people who "DON'T" want to support themselves???

Political Bumper Stickers: The fastest way in the world to let people know you are a total dumbass.... Total number of Obama 2012 bumper stickers I've seen so far......5!! Total number of Romney 2012 bumper stickers I've seen so far...0!!

CZ82  posted on  2012-06-09   12:12:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: harrowup (#20)

That story pains me. Thanks for sharing it.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2012-06-09   12:31:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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