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AG reveals ICE released thousands of ‘murderers and rapists’ from detention centers into US streets Status: Not Logged In; Sign In Historical See other Historical Articles Title: HEADQUARTERS GRAND ARMY OF THE REPUBLIC General Orders No.11, WASHINGTON, D.C., May 5, 1868 Source: [None] URL Source: http://www.usmemorialday.org/order11.html Published: May 26, 2012 Author: General John Logan, national commander o Post Date: 2012-05-26 02:00:24 by Mad Dog Keywords: ALL, of, them Views: 64882 Comments: 116 **** HEADQUARTERS GRAND ARMY OF THE REPUBLIC General Orders No.11, WASHINGTON, D.C., May 5, 1868 The 30th day of May, 1868, is designated for the purpose of strewing with flowers or otherwise decorating the graves of comrades who died in defense of their country during the late rebellion, and whose bodies now lie in almost every city, village, and hamlet church-yard in the land. In this observance no form of ceremony is prescribed, but posts and comrades will in their own way arrange such fitting services and testimonials of respect as circumstances may permit. We are organized, comrades, as our regulations tell us, for the purpose among other things, "of preserving and strengthening those kind and fraternal feelings which have bound together the soldiers, sailors, and marines who united to suppress the late rebellion." What can aid more to assure this result than cherishing tenderly the memory of our heroic dead, who made their breasts a barricade between our country and its foes? Their soldier lives were the reveille of freedom to a race in chains, and their deaths the tattoo of rebellious tyranny in arms. We should guard their graves with sacred vigilance. All that the consecrated wealth and taste of the nation can add to their adornment and security is but a fitting tribute to the memory of her slain defenders. Let no wanton foot tread rudely on such hallowed grounds. Let pleasant paths invite the coming and going of reverent visitors and fond mourners. Let no vandalism of avarice or neglect, no ravages of time testify to the present or to the coming generations that we have forgotten as a people the cost of a free and undivided republic. If other eyes grow dull, other hands slack, and other hearts cold in the solemn trust, ours shall keep it well as long as the light and warmth of life remain to us. Let us, then, at the time appointed gather around their sacred remains and garland the passionless mounds above them with the choicest flowers of spring-time; let us raise above them the dear old flag they saved from hishonor; let us in this solemn presence renew our pledges to aid and assist those whom they have left among us a sacred charge upon a nation's gratitude, the soldier's and sailor's widow and orphan. It is the purpose of the Commander-in-Chief to inaugurate this observance with the hope that it will be kept up from year to year, while a survivor of the war remains to honor the memory of his departed comrades. He earnestly desires the public press to lend its friendly aid in bringing to the notice of comrades in all parts of the country in time for simultaneous compliance therewith. Department commanders will use efforts to make this order effective. By order of JOHN A. LOGAN, Commander-in-Chief N.P. CHIPMAN, Adjutant General Official: WM. T. COLLINS, A.A.G. Click for Full Text! Post Comment   Private Reply   Ignore Thread   Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest #1. To: All (#0) * Memorial Day, originally called Decoration Day, is a day of remembrance for those who have died in our nation's service. There are many stories as to its actual beginnings, with over two dozen cities and towns laying claim to being the birthplace of Memorial Day. There is also evidence that organized women's groups in the South were decorating graves before the end of the Civil War: a hymn published in 1867, "Kneel Where Our Loves are Sleeping" by Nella L. Sweet carried the dedication "To The Ladies of the South who are Decorating the Graves of the Confederate Dead" (Source: Duke University's Historic American Sheet Music, 1850-1920). While Waterloo N.Y. was officially declared the birthplace of Memorial Day by President Lyndon Johnson in May 1966, it's difficult to prove conclusively the origins of the day. It is more likely that it had many separate beginnings; each of those towns and every planned or spontaneous gathering of people to honor the war dead in the 1860's tapped into the general human need to honor our dead, each contributed honorably to the growing movement that culminated in Gen Logan giving his official proclamation in 1868. It is not important who was the very first, what is important is that Memorial Day was established. Memorial Day is not about division. It is about reconciliation; it is about coming together to honor those who gave their all. Memorial Day was officially proclaimed on 5 May 1868 by General John Logan, national commander of the Grand Army of the Republic, in his General Order No. 11, and was first observed on 30 May 1868, when flowers were placed on the graves of Union and Confederate soldiers at Arlington National Cemetery. The first state to officially recognize the holiday was New York in 1873. By 1890 it was recognized by all of the northern states. The South refused to acknowledge the day, honoring their dead on separate days until after World War I (when the holiday changed from honoring just those who died fighting in the Civil War to honoring Americans who died fighting in any war). It is now celebrated in almost every State on the last Monday in May (passed by Congress with the National Holiday Act of 1971 (P.L. 90 - 363) to ensure a three day weekend for Federal holidays), though several southern states have an additional separate day for honoring the Confederate war dead: January 19 in Texas, April 26 in Alabama, Florida, Georgia, and Mississippi; May 10 in South Carolina; and June 3 (Jefferson Davis' birthday) in Louisiana and Tennessee. In 1915, inspired by the poem "In Flanders Fields," Moina Michael replied with her own poem: We cherish too, the Poppy red That grows on fields where valor led, It seems to signal to the skies That blood of heroes never dies. She then conceived of an idea to wear red poppies on Memorial day in honor of those who died serving the nation during war. She was the first to wear one, and sold poppies to her friends and co-workers with the money going to benefit servicemen in need. Later a Madam Guerin from France was visiting the United States and learned of this new custom started by Ms.Michael and when she returned to France, made artificial red poppies to raise money for war orphaned children and widowed women. This tradition spread to other countries. In 1921, the Franco-American Children's League sold poppies nationally to benefit war orphans of France and Belgium. The League disbanded a year later and Madam Guerin approached the VFW for help. Shortly before Memorial Day in 1922 the VFW became the first veterans' organization to nationally sell poppies. Two years later their "Buddy" Poppy program was selling artificial poppies made by disabled veterans. In 1948 the US Post Office honored Ms Michael for her role in founding the National Poppy movement by issuing a red 3 cent postage stamp with her likeness on it. Traditional observance of Memorial day has diminished over the years. Many Americans nowadays have forgotten the meaning and traditions of Memorial Day. At many cemeteries, the graves of the fallen are increasingly ignored, neglected. Most people no longer remember the proper flag etiquette for the day. While there are towns and cities that still hold Memorial Day parades, many have not held a parade in decades. Some people think the day is for honoring any and all dead, and not just those fallen in service to our country. There are a few notable exceptions. Since the late 50's on the Thursday before Memorial Day, the 1,200 soldiers of the 3d U.S. Infantry place small American flags at each of the more than 260,000 gravestones at Arlington National Cemetery. They then patrol 24 hours a day during the weekend to ensure that each flag remains standing. In 1951, the Boy Scouts and Cub Scouts of St. Louis began placing flags on the 150,000 graves at Jefferson Barracks National Cemetery as an annual Good Turn, a practice that continues to this day. More recently, beginning in 1998, on the Saturday before the observed day for Memorial Day, the Boys Scouts and Girl Scouts place a candle at each of approximately 15,300 grave sites of soldiers buried at Fredericksburg and Spotsylvania National Military Park on Marye's Heights (the Luminaria Program). And in 2004, Washington D.C. held its first Memorial Day parade in over 60 years. To help re-educate and remind Americans of the true meaning of Memorial Day, the "National Moment of Remembrance" resolution was passed on Dec 2000 which asks that at 3 p.m. local time, for all Americans "To voluntarily and informally observe in their own way a Moment of remembrance and respect, pausing from whatever they are doing for a moment of silence or listening to 'Taps." The Moment of Remembrance is a step in the right direction to returning the meaning back to the day. What is needed is a full return to the original day of observance. Set aside one day out of the year for the nation to get together to remember, reflect and honor those who have given their all in service to their country. But what may be needed to return the solemn, and even sacred, spirit back to Memorial Day is for a return to its traditional day of observance. Many feel that when Congress made the day into a three-day weekend in with the National Holiday Act of 1971, it made it all the easier for people to be distracted from the spirit and meaning of the day. As the VFW stated in its 2002 Memorial Day address: "Changing the date merely to create three-day weekends has undermined the very meaning of the day. No doubt, this has contributed greatly to the general public's nonchalant observance of Memorial Day." www.usmemorialday.org/backgrnd.htm l Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms. Mad Dog  posted on  2012-05-26   2:10:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #2. To: All (#0) * Decoration Day * Sleep, comrades, sleep and rest On this Field of the Grounded Arms, Where foes no more molest, Nor sentry's shot alarms! * Ye have slept on the ground before, And started to your feet At the cannon's sudden roar, Or the drum's redoubling beat. * But in this camp of Death No sound your slumber breaks; Here is no fevered breath, No wound that bleeds and aches. * All is repose and peace, Untrampled lies the sod; The shouts of battle cease, It is the Truce of God! * Rest, comrades, rest and sleep! The thoughts of men shall be As sentinels to keep Your rest from danger free. * Your silent tents of green We deck with fragrant flowers; Yours has the suffering been, The memory shall be ours. * Henry Wadsworth Longfellow Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms. Mad Dog  posted on  2012-05-26   2:48:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #3. To: All (#0) * In Flanders Fields * In Flanders Fields the poppies blow Between the crosses row on row, That mark our place; and in the sky The larks, still bravely singing, fly Scarce heard amid the guns below. * We are the Dead. Short days ago We lived, felt dawn, saw sunset glow, Loved and were loved, and now we lie In Flanders fields. * Take up our quarrel with the foe: To you from failing hands we throw The torch; be yours to hold it high. If ye break faith with us who die We shall not sleep, though poppies grow In Flanders fields. * Lieutenant Colonel John McCrae, MD (1872-1918) Canadian Army Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms. Mad Dog  posted on  2012-05-26   2:53:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #4. To: All (#0) * The Death of the Ball Turret Gunner * From my mother's sleep I fell into the State, And I hunched in its belly till my wet fur froze. Six miles from earth, loosed from its dream of life, I woke to black flak and the nightmare fighters. When I died they washed me out of the turret with a hose. * Randall Jarrell Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms. Mad Dog  posted on  2012-05-26   2:57:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #5. To: All (#0) * Remember * Remember me when I am gone away, Gone far away into the silent land; When you can no more hold me by the hand, Nor I half turn to go yet turning stay. * Remember me when no more day by day You tell me of our future that you plann'd: Only remember me; you understand It will be late to counsel then or pray. * Yet if you should forget me for a while And afterwards remember, do not grieve: For if the darkness and corruption leave A vestige of the thoughts that once I had, * Better by far you should forget and smile Than that you should remember and be sad. * CHRISTINA ROSSETTI Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms. Mad Dog  posted on  2012-05-26   3:14:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #6. To: Mad Dog (#5) House Bill HR. 4133. www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/112/hr4133 Senate Bill: S. 2165 www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/112/s2165 The U.S.-Israel Enhanced Security Cooperation Act of 2012 is now under review by the Senate Foreign Relations Committee. … Click for Full Text! #1. To: Peo111 (#0) If we survive, the Archives will be full of the following. Replace the Leading Characters/Nations with Today's USSA/Israel fools....;} World War I, German Dispatches and the Kaiser's Notes www.gwpda.org/1914/wilnotes.htmlCached You +1'd this publicly. Undo Apr 7, 1996 – DISPATCHES ANNOTATIONS BY THE KAISER. VIENNA, June 30, 1914. Dispatch from the Ger- man Ambassador at Vienna. (German ... World War I, German Dispatches and the Kaiser's Notes net.lib.byu.edu/~rdh7/wwi/1914/wilnotes.htmlCached You +1'd this publicly. Undo Apr 7, 1996 – DISPATCHES ANNOTATIONS BY THE KAISER. VIENNA, June 30, 1914. Dispatch from the Ger- man Ambassador at Vienna. (German ... REPROVES GERMAN AGITATORS.; Kaiser's Ambassador to ... query.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res... You +1'd this publicly. Undo ... says the Vienna correspondent of The Times. In speaking at the German colony s banquet in celebration of the Kaiser's birthday, the Ambassador tendered ... First World War.com - Primary Documents - Kaiser Wilhelm on ... www.firstworldwar.com/sou...kaiserscomments.htmCached - Similar You +1'd this publicly. Undo Kaiser Wilhelm II and sons Reproduced below are a series of telegrams sent by Baron Tschirschky - German ambassador in Vienna - to the German Kaiser, ... Trenches on the Web - Timeline: Jul-1914: The July Crisis www.worldwar1.com/tlplot.htmCached - Similar You +1'd this publicly. Undo Jan 15, 2000 – German Ambassador to Vienna, Count Heinrich von Tschirschky, warns ... The twenty day cruise had been planned for months and the Kaiser ... mcgowanjm posted on 2012-05-26 8:23:00 ET Reply Trace Private Reply Edit #2. To: Peo111 (#0) Charlie Madison via Arthur Silber...powerofnarrative blog: "Many Americans, at least those who prefer to think of themselves as intelligent and well-informed, are willing to laugh at their own idiocies. They are not so ready to admit that their desperately loved self-conception, an idealized view of themselves and their country that they cling to with the neurotic terror of the criminal who fears exposure at any moment, disguises a fact that has assumed awful, overwhelming clarity to much of the rest of the world: that Americans are among the most vicious killers who have ever lived. "It’s not war that’s unnatural to us – it’s virtue. As long as valor remains a virtue, we shall have soldiers. So, I preach cowardice. Through cowardice, we shall all be saved. ... I don’t trust people who make bitter reflections about war. ... It’s always the generals with the bloodiest records who are the first to shout what a Hell it is. And it’s always the widows who lead the Memorial Day parades … we shall never end wars ... by blaming it on ministers and generals or warmongering imperialists or all the other banal bogies. It’s the rest of us who build statues to those generals and name boulevards after those ministers; the rest of us who make heroes of our dead and shrines of our battlefields. We wear our widows’ weeds like nuns and perpetuate war by exalting its sacrifices. My brother died at Anzio – an everyday soldier’s death, no special heroism involved. They buried what pieces they found of him. But my mother insists he died a brave death and pretends to be very proud. mcgowanjm mcgowanjm posted on 2012-05-26 8:26:56 ET mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-26   8:28:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #7. To: mcgowanjm (#6) My brother died at Anzio – an everyday soldier’s death, no special heroism involved. They buried what pieces they found of him. But my mother insists he died a brave death and pretends to be very proud. Then why do you shit on his memory here? On a thread about a day that has ALWAYS had only ONE reason to exist, which is to HONOR AND REMEMBER ALL WHO HAVE DIED IN THE SERVICE. Including your alleged brother. You want to spew your libTURD crap do it elsewhere. Your brother was worth more than 300 MILLIONS of YOU creep. Of your own brother's death you gibber, "NO SPECIAL HEROISM INVOLVED"? You are foul beyond words. Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms. Mad Dog  posted on  2012-05-26   12:49:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #8. To: mcgowanjm, mad dog (#6) My brother died at Anzio – an everyday soldier’s death, no special heroism involved. They buried what pieces they found of him. But my mother insists he died a brave death and pretends to be very proud. Oh yeah, the silly man died fighting to free europe from the nazi occupation. Have some respect for an american patriot you pig. Veterans die year after year protecting your right to run your stupid fucking mouth. You're an ASSHOLE. "And don't get smart with me you prick. I know where you live. harrowup posted on 2012-04-30 18:55:29 ET Reply Trace" calcon  posted on  2012-05-26   12:56:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #9. To: Mad Dog (#7) He's a fucking pig. "And don't get smart with me you prick. I know where you live. harrowup posted on 2012-04-30 18:55:29 ET Reply Trace" calcon  posted on  2012-05-26   12:57:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #10. To: calcon (#9) He's a fucking pig. . I agree. But I do think that we need to apologize to pigs who suffer in the comparison. For them ALL, thank you. Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms. Mad Dog  posted on  2012-05-26   13:14:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #11. To: Mad Dog, *Military or Vets Affairs* (#0) Raul (Roy) Perez Benavidez (August 5, 1935 – November 29, 1998) was a member of the Studies and Observations Group of the United States Army. He received the Medal of Honor for his actions in combat near Lộc Ninh, South Vietnam on May 2, 1968. In 1952, during the Korean War, Benavidez enlisted in the Texas Army National Guard. In June 1955, he enlisted in the regular United States Army. He married Hilaria Coy in 1959, the year he completed his airborne training and was assigned to the 82nd Airborne Division at Fort Bragg. In 1965 he was sent to South Vietnam as an advisor to an ARVN infantry regiment. He stepped on a land mine during a patrol and was evacuated to the United States, where doctors at Brooke Army Medical Center (BAMC) thought he would never walk again. Despite serious injury to his spine, Benavidez walked out of the hospital in July 1966, his wife at his side.[citation needed] Benavidez returned to Fort Bragg to begin training for the elite Studies and Observations Group (SOG). Despite continuing pain from his wounds, he became a member of the 5th Special Forces Group and returned to South Vietnam in January 1968. On May 2, 1968, a 12-man Special Forces team was surrounded by a NVA battalion. Benavidez heard the radio appeal for help and boarded a helicopter to respond. Armed only with a knife, he jumped from the helicopter carrying a medical bag and rushed to join the trapped team. Benavidez "distinguished himself by a series of daring and extremely glorious actions... and because of his gallant choice to join voluntarily his comrades who were in critical straits, to expose himself constantly to withering enemy fire, and his refusal to be stopped despite numerous severe wounds, saved the lives of at least eight men." He was believed dead after finally being evacuated and was being zipped up in a body bag when he mustered the last of his strength and spit in the face of a medic, thereby alerting nearby medical personnel that he was still alive. (see medal citation below) Nearly dead from a total of 37 separate bayonet, bullet and shrapnel wounds received on multiple occasions over the course of the six hour fight between the 13 men and an enemy battalion,[1] Benavidez was evacuated once again to Brooke Army Medical Center, where he eventually recovered. For his heroism, the Army awarded him the Distinguished Service Cross. In 1973, after more detailed accounts became available, Special Forces Lieutenant Colonel Ralph R. Drake insisted that Benavidez receive the Medal of Honor. By then, however, the time limit on the medal had expired. An appeal to Congress resulted in an exemption for Benavidez, but the Army Decorations Board still denied him the Medal of Honor. The board required an eyewitness account from someone present during the action, but Benavidez thought that no others were alive who had been at the "Six Hours in Hell."[citation needed] In 1980, however, Brian O'Connor, a radioman in the attacked Special Forces team, provided a ten-page report of the engagement. O'Connor had been severely wounded (Benavidez had believed him dead), and was evacuated to the United States before his superiors could fully debrief him. O'Connor learned that Benavidez was alive by chance. He had been living in the Fiji Islands and was on holiday in Australia when he read a newspaper account of Benavidez from an El Campo newspaper. It had been picked up by the international press and reprinted in Australia. O'Connor soon contacted his old friend and submitted his report, confirming the accounts already provided by others and providing the missing eyewitness. On February 24, 1981, President Ronald Reagan presented Roy Benavidez the Medal of Honor. Reagan reportedly turned to the press and said: "If the story of his heroism were a movie script, you would not believe it". He then read the official award citation.[citation needed] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roy_Benavidez Whenever any of us think that life is hard and nobody cares about anybody else,remember reading this and give Roy a thought. If you can't be inspired by him you have no soul and are hopeless. Roy may be one of the most outstanding examples of what made America great,but he's not the only one. Others may have only served right here in the United States ,but they still served,they still gave up a part of their life to serve,and they all knew they could have been called at any time to go into actual combat. All this in order to preserve America and her freedoms,and to allow your children to grow up to enjoy the same life you had. So,it doesn't really matter if it Roy you think of today or your uncle that served as a cook at a stateside training facility. They all served and they all did their part to protect and preserve America. "It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011 Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter. sneakypete  posted on  2012-05-26   13:52:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #12. To: Mad Dog (#0) Here this is appropriate..... Leftardism/Liberalism: The chickenschitt way to deal with life’s problems by creating solutions to problems that don’t exist, thereby creating a problem where none existed before and then having to find a solution to that one… CZ82  posted on  2012-05-26   13:56:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #13. To: sneakypete, ALL (#11) Whenever any of us think that life is hard and nobody cares about anybody else,remember reading this and give Roy a thought. If you can't be inspired by him you have no soul and are hopeless. Roy may be one of the most outstanding examples of what made America great,but he's not the only one. Others may have only served right here in the United States ,but they still served,they still gave up a part of their life to serve,and they all knew they could have been called at any time to go into actual combat. All this in order to preserve America and her freedoms,and to allow your children to grow up to enjoy the same life you had. So,it doesn't really matter if it Roy you think of today or your uncle that served as a cook at a stateside training facility. They all served and they all did their part to protect and preserve America. . We are blessed to have such men among us. They await us in the halls of our ancestors. THEY have done their duty and much more. I am not worthy of speaking their names. For them ALL. Amen. Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms. Mad Dog  posted on  2012-05-26   14:01:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #14. To: mcgowanjm (#6) They buried what pieces they found of him. But my mother insists he died a brave death and pretends to be very proud. mcgowanjm You don't think it required an immense amount or courage to storm ashore at Anzio while under fire from dug in heavy and light machine gun positions,artillery fire,mortar fire,and rifle fire? And you should also know that the majority of the acts of bravery are never recognized because of no witnesses or all the witnesses dying. Or even lost paperwork. Read the Medal of Honor citation for Roy Benavidez that I just posted on this thread and take note that it took years for him to get the award he so richly deserved,and that he was lucky he ever got it because he was in a covert unit instead of a regular army unit. Another SOG MoH winner (Bob Howard) was put in for a Medal of Honor on THREE separate occasions before he finally got one. Soooo,don't assume a man is not a hero just because he isn't wearing one of the ribbons. "It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011 Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter. sneakypete  posted on  2012-05-26   14:08:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #15. To: sneakypete (#14) Read the Medal of Honor citation for Roy Benavidez that I just posted on this thread and take note that it took years for him to get the award he so richly deserved So did you ever get to meet him???? I did one time when he came to talk to us about Leadership and Integrity... Leftardism/Liberalism: The chickenschitt way to deal with life’s problems by creating solutions to problems that don’t exist, thereby creating a problem where none existed before and then having to find a solution to that one… CZ82  posted on  2012-05-26   14:14:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #16. To: sneakypete (#11) He was believed dead after finally being evacuated and was being zipped up in a body bag when he mustered the last of his strength and spit in the face of a medic, thereby alerting nearby medical personnel that he was still alive. (see medal citation below) Nearly dead from a total of 37 separate bayonet, bullet and shrapnel wounds received on multiple occasions over the course of the six hour fight between the 13 men and an enemy battalion, Incredible stuff in his heroics and will to survive. I've seen it before over the years and thanks for the fresh reminder of his story. Fred Mertz  posted on  2012-05-26   14:16:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #17. To: CZ82, ALL (#12) Here this is appropriate..... HERE RESTS IN HONORED GLORY AN AMERICAN SOLDIER KNOWN BUT TO GOD Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms. Mad Dog  posted on  2012-05-26   14:20:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #18. To: CZ82 (#15) So did you ever get to meet him???? Yeah,we were casual friends at Bragg. He went to VN and all of this had already happened before I got to SOG. I heard about it once I got there,though. Everybody that knew him had heard about it and were in awe of his actions. I still get the shivers just thinking about going in on a hot LZ on a Brightlight Operation,and that's loaded for bear with a full team,never mind going in alone and armed only with a Bowie knife. As they used to say in frontier times,"THERE's a man with the bark on him!" "It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011 Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter. sneakypete  posted on  2012-05-26   14:25:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #19. To: Fred Mertz (#16) Nearly dead from a total of 37 separate bayonet, bullet and shrapnel wounds received on multiple occasions over the course of the six hour fight between the 13 men and an enemy battalion, Incredible stuff in his heroics and will to survive. Yeah,and I don't think that even counts the burns he got rescuing the crew and passengers from the first chopper that got in and flew out with the wounded and got shot down. As shot up as he was,he dragged them all out of the burning helicopter and dragged them to safety,and then loaded them all up again on the next helicopter that came in. AND....,IMHO the most appropriate ending to this action was as he loaded the last of the wounded on the last helicopter out before he got in himself,a NVA came running around the tail boom with a satchel charge to throw into the chopper,and Roy killed him with his Bowie knife. In fact,the knife was still sticking out of the NVA's chest when the helicopter flew away. Hollywood is completely nuts if they don't make movies about him and Bob Howard. Not only wouldn't they have to make anything up,they might have to omit some of the things these men really did to make it believable. "It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011 Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter. sneakypete  posted on  2012-05-26   14:32:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #20. To: sneakypete (#14) You don't think it required an immense amount or courage to storm ashore at Anzio while under fire from dug in heavy and light machine gun positions,artillery fire,mortar fire,and rifle fire? Sure. Know the people who did Anzio. As well as those that did the Battle of the Bulge And btw, it wasn't 'Nuts to you' on that message to the German Commander from the US Bastogne Commander....;} The Best Evidence on how War is cleaned up for the farscicly deluded innocent American back home. I'm talking about the Very Few Captains of Industry sitting behind their comfortable desks who are sending these boys into the meat grinder. mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-28   9:39:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #21. To: sneakypete (#14) And you should also know that the majority of the acts of bravery are never recognized because of no witnesses or all the witnesses dying. Or even lost paperwork. And the fact that they lost that engagement which does nothing for the war effort back home....;} mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-28   9:40:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #22. To: sneakypete (#14) Read the Medal of Honor citation for Roy Benavidez that I just posted on this thread and take note that it took years for him to get the award he so richly deserved,and that he was lucky he ever got it because he was in a covert unit instead of a regular army unit. Another SOG MoH winner (Bob Howard) was put in for a Medal of Honor on THREE separate occasions before he finally got one. When you go covert you're either shot as a spy or a traitor. Part of the job. Why else be covert about it....;} mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-28   9:41:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #23. To: sneakypete (#14) Soooo,don't assume a man is not a hero just because he isn't wearing one of the ribbons. A hero is a coward. Don't join up. Don't go. The bravest thing you can do. War is Hell. Every war story from the trenches at the front around the world has the same lesson. mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-28   9:43:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #24. To: calcon (#8) Oh yeah, the silly man died fighting to free europe from the nazi occupation. So here's where you can tell us why the US attacked Germany. mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-28   9:51:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #25. To: Mad Dog (#7) Then why do you shit on his memory here? So to describe what War is actually like is to shit on someone's memory? please. mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-28   9:52:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #26. To: mcgowanjm (#22) When you go covert you're either shot as a spy or a traitor. Not always. That is always a real risk,though. Not a single SOG MIA was ever returned or even acknowledged by the NVA. Jerry "Mad Dog" Shriver is the only one I even know of where the NVA admitted they had him in their possession when they admitted they had his head in a radio broadcast that was captured. Every SOG guy had a bounty on his head by the NVA just for being on a SOG team,but Shriver was unique in that he was mentioned by name and had a 10 grand bounty on him. In 1968 and 69 this was BIG money. Especially to a Asian peasant. He scared the piss out of them. Most other people,too. That was in early 1969,and they haven't had one word to say about him since then. They will not admit he was KIA or captured and killed,or anything else about him. "It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011 Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter. sneakypete  posted on  2012-05-28   11:03:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #27. To: mcgowanjm, Grand Island (#23) A hero is a coward. Don't join up. Don't go. The bravest thing you can do. You really are insane. You know that,right? BTW,I pinged the one guy that probably agrees with you. "It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011 Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter. sneakypete  posted on  2012-05-28   11:05:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #28. To: mcgowanjm (#24) So here's where you can tell us why the US attacked Germany. Because they declared war on us and attacked us first? "It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011 Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter. sneakypete  posted on  2012-05-28   11:06:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #29. To: mcgowanjm (#25) md; Then why do you shit on his memory here? creep; So to describe what War is actually like is to shit on someone's memory? please. THIS is NOT the appropriate thread for you to post your libTURD crap loser. THIS thread is about MEMORIAL DAY whose only purpose is to HONOR all who have DIED in SERVICE. Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms. Mad Dog  posted on  2012-05-28   12:37:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #30. To: mcgowanjm (#20) . THIS is NOT the appropriate thread for you to post your libTURD crap loser. THIS thread is about MEMORIAL DAY whose only purpose is to HONOR all who have DIED in SERVICE. Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms. Mad Dog  posted on  2012-05-28   12:38:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #31. To: mcgowanjm (#21) .. THIS is NOT the appropriate thread for you to post your libTURD crap loser. THIS thread is about MEMORIAL DAY whose only purpose is to HONOR all who have DIED in SERVICE. Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms. Mad Dog  posted on  2012-05-28   12:38:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #32. To: mcgowanjm (#22) ... THIS is NOT the appropriate thread for you to post your libTURD crap loser. THIS thread is about MEMORIAL DAY whose only purpose is to HONOR all who have DIED in SERVICE. Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms. Mad Dog  posted on  2012-05-28   12:39:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #33. To: mcgowanjm (#23) .... THIS is NOT the appropriate thread for you to post your libTURD crap loser. THIS thread is about MEMORIAL DAY whose only purpose is to HONOR all who have DIED in SERVICE. Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms. Mad Dog  posted on  2012-05-28   12:39:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #34. To: mcgowanjm (#24) ..... THIS is NOT the appropriate thread for you to post your libTURD crap loser. THIS thread is about MEMORIAL DAY whose only purpose is to HONOR all who have DIED in SERVICE. Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms. Mad Dog  posted on  2012-05-28   12:40:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #35. To: sneakypete (#28) So here's where you can tell us why the US attacked Germany. Because they declared war on us and attacked us first? wrong. Try again. Has to do with the US breaking the German code as well as the Japanese....;} mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-28   21:33:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #36. To: All (#35) 10 US invaders killed as Mujahideen shoot down ambulance helicopter Zabihullah Mujahid E-mail Print PDF Monday, 07 Rajab 1433 Monday, 28 May 2012 17:10 PAKTIKA, May 28 – A report says that Mujahideen of the Islamic Emirate shot a US invaders ambulance while it was about to land in an area in Sarhawza district, Paktika province in order to evacuate the dead and wounded caused during a clash with Mujahideen of the Islamic on Monday. According to the reliable sources, as many as 10 American invaders were killed in the shoot-down whereas four other helicopters approached the area to airlift the dead American terrorists from the site. Witnesses say the area has remained surrounded by the enemy forces thought the day. "Contractor Deaths Exceed Military Ones in Iraq and Afghanistan (2010). At the peak of the Iraq War, 150,000 "contractors" were in-theater so our civilian "leadership" could claim to have reduced the "headcount" of military personnnel serving in Iraq. As with everything else in America, the artifice was swallowed whole because the truth was too ugly and difficult for us to bear. The sacrifices of our contractors in Iraq have been ignored by everyone: the Pentagon, the politicians and the public. Nobody wants to acknowledge the losses of those we hired to replace "official" soldiers, even though many of those contractors were ex-U.S. Armed Forces service members. mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-28   21:35:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #37. To: All (#36) Military-Industrial Complex Porn: Congress To Spend More On Tanks Than The Pentagon Wants mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-29   7:42:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #38. To: sneakypete (#28) Everything you need to know on why WWII: Many thanx, Robin As I know my family, I know that the bush's got their start thru this. IT ALL rings true, right down to their method of criminalizing/'he's mentally unbalanced' dirt in the face methods.....;} "While there is no suggestion (bullsite. I'm 'suggesting it, asshole...;} that Prescott Bush was sympathetic (look up fascvist in the dictionary and see Poppy Bush;} to the Nazi cause In 1941, Thyssen fled Germany after falling out with Hitler but he was captured in France and detained for the remainder of the war. (Now THAT's the first time I've heard that. Right there is Everything you need to know. I'd like to know what the disagreement was about. And be a fly on the wall of that discussion.....;} Erwin May, a treasury attache and officer for the department of investigation in the APC, was assigned to look into UBC's business. The first fact to emerge was that Roland Harriman, Prescott Bush and the other directors didn't actually own their shares in UBC but merely held them on behalf of Bank voor Handel. Strangely, no one seemed to know who owned the Rotterdam-based bank, including UBC's president. Even then it could be argued that BBH was within its rights continuing business relations with the Thyssens until the end of 1941 as the US was still technically neutral until the attack on Pearl Harbor. (So did Thyssen leave Germany before or after Pearl Harbour?....;} The trouble started on July 30 1942 when the New York Herald-Tribune ran an article entitled "Hitler's Angel Has $3m in US Bank". UBC's huge gold purchases had raised suspicions that the bank was in fact a "secret nest egg" hidden in New York for Thyssen Jones recommended that the assets be liquidated for the benefit of the government, but instead UBC was maintained intact (!!!!!) and eventually returned to the American shareholders after the war. (!!!!!) Some claim that Bush sold his share in UBC after the war for $1.5m - a huge amount of money at the time - but there is no documentary evidence to support this claim. No further action was ever taken nor was the investigation continued, *****despite the fact UBC was caught red-handed operating a American shell company for the Thyssen family eight months after America had entered the war and that this was the bank that had partly financed Hitler's rise to power. The most tantalising part of the story remains shrouded in mystery:******* (The Only 'mystery' is why the case was stopped cold.....;} the connection, if any, between Prescott Bush, Thyssen, Consolidated Silesian Steel Company (CSSC) and Auschwitz. "The Consolidated Silesian Steel Company situation has become increasingly complicated, and I have accordingly brought in "Sullivan and Cromwell" HUGE law firm implicated in the Truman Doctrine. Still alive and well. Their fingers in more pies than Goldman/Sachs....;}, in order to be sure that our interests are protected," wrote Knight. "After studying the situation Foster Dulles But the ownership of the CSSC between 1939 when the Germans invaded Poland and 1942 when the US government vested UBC and SAC is not clear. "SAC held coal mines and definitely owned CSSC between 1934 and 1935, but when SAC was vested there was no trace of CSSC. All concrete evidence of its ownership disappears after 1935 and there are only a few traces in 1938 and 1939," says Eva Schweitzer, the journalist and author whose book, America and the Holocaust, is published next month. :::::: Silesia was quickly made part of the German Reich after the invasion, but while Polish factories were seized by the Nazis, those belonging to the still neutral Americans (and some other nationals) were treated more carefully as Hitler was still hoping to persuade the US to at least sit out the war as a neutral country. ::::: Schweitzer says American interests were dealt with on a case-by-case basis. The Nazis bought some out, but not others. Ford Motor Truck Plant was srutinized by the Nazis, but they found that Germany could not make Ford Trucks any faster or better than Ford.....;} "The Union Banking Corporation was a holding company for the Nazis, for Fritz Thyssen," said Loftus. "At various times, the Bush family has tried to spin it, saying they were owned by a Dutch bank and it wasn't until the Nazis took over Holland that they realised that now the Nazis controlled the apparent company and that is why the Bush supporters claim when the war was over they got their money back. BULL SHITE Both the American treasury investigations and the intelligence investigations in Europe completely bely that, it's absolute horseshit. They always knew who the ultimate beneficiaries were." ;} "There is no one left alive who could be prosecuted but they did get away with it," said Loftus. "As a former federal prosecutor, I would make a case for Prescott Bush, his father-in-law (George Walker) and Averill Harriman [to be prosecuted] for giving aid and comfort to the enemy. They remained on the boards of these companies knowing that they were of financial benefit to the nation of Germany." Loftus said Prescott Bush must have been aware of what was happening in Germany at the time. "My take on him was that he was a not terribly successful in-law who did what Herbert Walker told him to. Walker and Harriman were the two evil geniuses, they didn't care about the Nazis any more than they cared about their (Sound Familiar? Poppy Bush cries in front of the Fla Leg knowing that he made the wrong son POTUS....8D) investments with the Bolsheviks." "the essential facts have appeared on the internet and in relatively obscure books but were dismissed by the media and Bush family as undocumented diatribes". Buchanan suffers from hypermania, a form of manic depression, and when he found himself rebuffed in his initial efforts to interest the media, he responded with a series of threats against the journalists and media outlets that had spurned him. The threats, contained in e-mails, suggested that he would expose the journalists as "traitors to the truth". Unsurprisingly, he soon had difficulty getting his calls returned. See Fortunate Son author commits suicide for details....;} mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-29   8:49:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #39. To: Sneaky Pete, All (#38) #133. To: All (#132) CSPAN this AM. The forum was about Obama being able to kill any American he wished, at any time for any reason he deemed fit. Of course that's not the way they worded their 'thread.'....;} But a caller stated that and called for a Reading of the Declaration of Independence and Jefferson's famous 'refreshing the Tree of Liberty' quote. The Hostess (twinkie) then asked what another caller (same line of thought on 'Unconctitutional';} thought the solution was. Of course the caller wasn't expecting that question, which was designed to silence her. She fumbled around and I turned the channel, wishing they'd ask me....;} But of course, if she HAD answered the way I would've liked, or if I had started to answer for the solution, we would both have been cut off. For the answer is that the Empire is now collapsing. The solution is to speed up the collapse and peacefully open ALL secret archives in the USSA and rename our Secret Service Agencies: The SS, CIA, FBI, and Homeland Security. Re Education Camps for all convicted of treason. mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-29   9:01:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #40. To: mcgowanjm (#35) So here's where you can tell us why the US attacked Germany. Because they declared war on us and attacked us first? wrong. Try again. No,I am NOT wrong. Germany declared war on us when we declared war on Japan. We declared war on Japan after Japan attacked Pearl Harbor. And they were sinking our merchant shipping long before they declared war. "It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011 Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter. sneakypete  posted on  2012-05-29   9:43:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #41. To: mcgowanjm (#38) Everything you need to know on why WWII: The OFF TOPIC post you made was in reference to who declared war on who,and when they did it,NOT for the causes of the war,which number in the hundreds if not the thousands. Wars don't start overnight,and they don't start for any one reason,although it is generally safe to say that greed was always the motivating factor that got the ball rolling years before the actual fighting started. And Prescott Bush wasn't the big deal you make him to be with Harriman. The only reason he got the job there was because of his father in lawCertainly not far enough up the ladder to be in a decision-making position. Yes,Harriman DID launder money for the Nazi's during WW-2. No,they did NOT launder money for the Nazi's before WW-2 because before there was a declaration of war it was not illegal to handle Nazi money. Yes,Prescott Bush took full responsibility for the whole deal,freeing the Harriman Bank from having to face any fines or other actions. Not to mention negative publicity that would have bankrupted the bank during WW-2. Prescott's reward for taking the rap was to be elected to the US Senate in 1954. 9 short years after WW-2 ended,the denizens of Ct elected somebody that gave aid and comfort to the Nazi leadership was elected to represent them in the US Senate. "It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011 Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter. sneakypete  posted on  2012-05-29   10:19:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #42. To: sneakypete (#41) Yes,Prescott Bush took full responsibility for the whole deal So just right off the bat, what penalty did Prescott pay....;} mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-29   10:33:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #43. To: sneakypete (#41) Noting how Thyssen squeezed every last mark/$ out of the German war machine before leaving at precisely the right time. Who covered for Thyssen if not the bushes? mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-29   10:35:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #44. To: sneakypete (#41) Everything you need to know on why WWII: The OFF TOPIC post you made was in reference to who declared war on who,and when they did it,NOT for the causes of the war,which number in the hundreds if not the thousands. Wars don't start overnight,and they don't start for any one reason,although it is generally safe to say that greed was always the motivating factor that got the ball rolling years before the actual fighting started. Here's what started your OFF TOPIC conversation. But of course you're cool with Calcon....;} So you start with my reply....how convenient for you. "#8. To: mcgowanjm, mad dog (#6) My brother died at Anzio – an everyday soldier’s death, no special heroism involved. They buried what pieces they found of him. But my mother insists he died a brave death and pretends to be very proud. Oh yeah, the silly man died fighting to free europe from the nazi occupation. Have some respect for an american patriot you pig. Veterans die year after year protecting your right to run your stupid fucking mouth. You're an ASSHOLE. "And don't get smart with me you prick. I know where you live. harrowup posted on 2012-04-30 18:55:29 ET Reply Trace" calcon mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-29   10:37:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #45. To: Sneaky Pete, All (#44) Wars don't start overnight,and they don't start for any one reason,although it is generally safe to say that greed was always the motivating factor that got the ball rolling years before the actual fighting started. But when us Dirty Fuckin Hippies point out what your treasonous leaders are doing to foment War... See ALL of my posts per SCOTUS Selection of bush43 with 9/11 months later and cheney's State of Emergency, still renewed every year. Good thing Tyrants always fail....;} mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-29   10:42:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #46. To: sneakypete (#41) Prescott's reward for taking the rap was to be elected to the US Senate in 1954. 9 short years after WW-2 ended Then 112263 and the bush family dynasty takes off. War is Profit. But karma always wins. mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-29   10:44:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #47. To: sneakypete (#40) No,I am NOT wrong. Germany declared war on us when we declared war on Japan. We declared war on Japan after Japan attacked Pearl Harbor. And they were sinking our merchant shipping long before they declared war. Hitler did not want to fight the US. President Roosevelt's Campaign To Incite War in Europe www.ihr.org/jhr/v04/v04p135_Weber.html This essay focuses on Roosevelt's secret campaign to provoke war in .... Although wary of German might, the Polish government supported the Munich agreement, .... assumption that the dictatorial governments, above all Germany and Japan, ... mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-29   10:46:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #48. To: mcgowanjm (#47) Hitler did not want to fight the US. Then he shouldn't have entered in to an alliance with Japan knowing that if they attacked us he would be obligated to declare war against us. I'll believe that a corporation is a person 1 second after Texas executes one... war  posted on  2012-05-29   11:40:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #49. To: mcgowanjm (#35) ...... THIS is NOT the appropriate thread for you to post your libTURD crap loser. THIS thread is about MEMORIAL DAY whose only purpose is to HONOR all who have DIED in SERVICE. Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms. Mad Dog  posted on  2012-05-29   12:52:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #50. To: mcgowanjm (#36) ....... THIS is NOT the appropriate thread for you to post your libTURD crap loser. THIS thread is about MEMORIAL DAY whose only purpose is to HONOR all who have DIED in SERVICE. Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms. Mad Dog  posted on  2012-05-29   12:53:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #51. To: mcgowanjm (#37) .. ...... THIS is NOT the appropriate thread for you to post your libTURD crap loser. THIS thread is about MEMORIAL DAY whose only purpose is to HONOR all who have DIED in SERVICE. Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms. Mad Dog  posted on  2012-05-29   12:55:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #52. To: mcgowanjm (#38) . .. ... THIS is NOT the appropriate thread for you to post your libTURD crap loser. THIS thread is about MEMORIAL DAY whose only purpose is to HONOR all who have DIED in SERVICE. Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms. Mad Dog  posted on  2012-05-29   12:57:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #53. To: mcgowanjm (#39) . .. ... .... ..... . THIS is NOT the appropriate thread for you to post your libTURD crap loser. THIS thread is about MEMORIAL DAY whose only purpose is to HONOR all who have DIED in SERVICE. Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms. Mad Dog  posted on  2012-05-29   12:58:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #54. To: mcgowanjm (#42) ........................... . .. ... .... ..... ...... ........ .......... THIS is NOT the appropriate thread for you to post your libTURD crap loser. THIS thread is about MEMORIAL DAY whose only purpose is to HONOR all who have DIED in SERVICE. Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms. Mad Dog  posted on  2012-05-29   13:01:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #55. To: mcgowanjm (#43) . .. ... . ... .. . THIS is NOT the appropriate thread for you to post your libTURD crap loser. THIS thread is about MEMORIAL DAY whose only purpose is to HONOR all who have DIED in SERVICE. Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms. Mad Dog  posted on  2012-05-29   13:02:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #56. To: mcgowanjm, ALL (#45) .. .. ... .... ... .. . THIS is NOT the appropriate thread for you to post your libTURD crap loser. THIS thread is about MEMORIAL DAY whose only purpose is to HONOR all who have DIED in SERVICE. Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms. Mad Dog  posted on  2012-05-29   13:03:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #57. To: mcgowanjm, ALL (#46) . .. .. . THIS is NOT the appropriate thread for you to post your libTURD crap loser. THIS thread is about MEMORIAL DAY whose only purpose is to HONOR all who have DIED in SERVICE. Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms. Mad Dog  posted on  2012-05-29   13:04:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #58. To: mcgowanjm, ALL (#47) . .. ... .. . .. ... .. . THIS is NOT the appropriate thread for you to post your libTURD crap loser. THIS thread is about MEMORIAL DAY whose only purpose is to HONOR all who have DIED in SERVICE. Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms. Mad Dog  posted on  2012-05-29   13:05:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #59. To: mcgowanjm (#42) So just right off the bat, what penalty did Prescott pay....;} I think he had his hand slapped and was put in the US Senate,to serve time with all the other professional criminals. "It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011 Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter. sneakypete  posted on  2012-05-29   13:21:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #60. To: mcgowanjm (#43) (Edited) Who covered for Thyssen if not the bushes? I don't know and I am not interested enough in what happened 70+ years ago to look it up. I'm more interested in what is going on today. And just how much freaking power do you think a second or third tier criminal family really has,anyhow? What part of them being EMPLOYEES is it that you don't understand? "It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011 Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter. sneakypete  posted on  2012-05-29   13:24:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #61. To: mcgowanjm (#45) But when us Dirty Fuckin Hippies point out what your treasonous leaders are doing to foment War... "MY" leaders? And take a bath! "It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011 Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter. sneakypete  posted on  2012-05-29   13:26:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #62. To: mcgowanjm (#47) Hitler did not want to fight the US. Yeah,and Clinton didn't want to get blown by Monica. That didn't prevent either from happening,did it? "It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011 Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter. sneakypete  posted on  2012-05-29   13:28:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #63. To: Mad Dog, *Military or Vets Affairs*, mcgowanjm (#49) THIS is NOT the appropriate thread for you to post your libTURD crap loser. THIS thread is about MEMORIAL DAY whose only purpose is to HONOR all who have DIED in SERVICE. exactly. It ain't like there is a shortage of threads around here on which to post paranoid fantasies. "It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011 Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter. sneakypete  posted on  2012-05-29   13:30:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #64. To: sneakypete (#63) (Edited) THIS is NOT the appropriate thread for you to post your libTURD crap loser. THIS thread is about MEMORIAL DAY whose only purpose is to HONOR all who have DIED in SERVICE. exactly. Except that LF has nothing but people like you dreaming about the glories of USSAn military conquest. And just when do we say that Empire is not what America is about. Except that America is exactly about conquest and genocide of indigenous people, so that God's destiny and Amerika's, but I'm being redundant here can be fulfilled. Memorial Day is over. Just the Bottom 99% getting a Day off.....maybe. And maybe a very few calling it a paid vacation. That's it. If you want to honor. Then bering ALL of ou8r troops home now. But you don't want that. You think that somehow something is being defended. Something honorable. But nothing of the sort is occuring. Only genocide with massive disfiguring physical/mental wounds of our military. But don't worry. Every civilization does the 'Sparta' thing. It's last hurrah. Before spiraling into the dust bin of history. Which you will learn. One way or another. And this IS the most appropriate venue for these comments. Signed, Ddirty Fuckin Hippy.....;} mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-30   9:07:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #65. To: sneakypete (#63) (Edited) And thyanx for quoting that scum , MD, Sneaky. I know you love his witty banner. I don't reply to him cause he's just another yukon wannabe. Apologizing for his Masters. The Top 1%. Probably getting some kind of paycheck from his Master. But maybe not. Maybe he's full on deluded. Always a possibility...;} mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-30   9:09:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #66. To: sneakypete (#62) You realize you haven't replied to ONE of my fact sourced posts with a coherent response? In fact falling to quoting MD on your last?...;} mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-30   9:15:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #67. To: sneakypete (#61) what your treasonous leaders are doing to foment War... "MY" leaders? Who else is slinging DU around the planet? And I haven't seen you attack any of their pet projects....;} Just can't wrap your head around the fact that the MIC controls the gov't you hate. mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-30   9:17:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #68. To: mcgowanjm (#64) (Edited) Except that LF has nothing but people like you dreaming about the glories of USSAn military conquest. Wrong,and even if that were true,who the hell are you to decide to drop a turd in the soup pot? Especially given that you have obvious emotional problems including jealousy and a devout hatred for successful people. In short,grow the HELL up,and quit acting like a whiney little bitch of a 8 year old . And this IS the most appropriate venue for these comments. Signed, Ddirty Fuckin Hippy.....;} You flatter yourself. You are just a petty,jealous,whiney little bitch. "It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011 Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter. sneakypete  posted on  2012-05-30   10:07:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #69. To: mcgowanjm (#66) And this IS the most appropriate venue for these comments. Signed, Ddirty Fuckin Hippy.....;} Try posting one. "It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011 Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter. sneakypete  posted on  2012-05-30   10:11:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #70. To: sneakypete (#68) (Edited) Wrong,and even if that were true,who the hell are you to decide to drop a turd in the soup pot? Especially given that you have obvious emotional problems including jealousy and a devout hatred for successful people. In short,grow the HELL up,and quit acting like a whiney little bitch of a 8 year old. LMFAO I'm a Dirty Fuckin Hippy, Dude Right since Katrina. And I won;t let BS go by w/o an answer. You need to call your baby sitter and tell her that the Hippy is Not playing well with others....8D And you have NEver threaded a Battle Field Report....from anywhere. But you're there to support our troops on the holidays and wonder why Memorial Day just doesn't have that Heft anymore....please. mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-30   10:11:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #71. To: mcgowanjm (#67) "MY" leaders? Who else is slinging DU around the planet? And I haven't seen you attack any of their pet projects....;} *I* am not responsible for your delusions or lack of knowledge. "It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011 Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter. sneakypete  posted on  2012-05-30   10:12:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #72. To: sneakypete (#69) And this IS the most appropriate venue for these comments. Signed, Ddirty Fuckin Hippy.....;} Try posting one. You're getting more lame with each post. The downfall was quoting MD, btw. " What's going on behind the scenes is way more dramatic than what is happening in front of you. There's a force loose in the moment that is pulling levers and pushing buttons that vested interests don't want pulled or pushed. There's a joker in the deck and the joker works for the big dealer who owns the house that we play cards in. Everything is arranged for the purpose of demonstration and an unfortunate demonstration it is, in various locations, where the demonstration is committed to 'go down' a particular way. About now, the finger pointing is going to start in earnest. Sewer rats are scrambling all over the place trying to squeeze just a little more out of the system before they hightail it out of town." mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-30   10:14:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #73. To: All (#72) (Edited) See. Let me show you how LF operates. Right now Syria's not on deck. But it will be. But by then it will be too late to show that AGITPROP is 100% behind USSA military intervention. We'll have to keep our heads down while the same ilk that pushed the lies of 9/11., Invading the Afghans and Iraq. All disproven...;} Push Syria Intervention. We don't have $$$ for Europe or the US domestics but Shit Fire we've got all we need and more for WAR....;} 'Journalism' "Phony ‘Houla Massacre’: How Media Manipulates Public Opinion For Regime Change in Syria" "BBC lies and fabrications" "Houla, Syria Stunt Proves: Old Tricks are the Best Tricks" "Guardian's Houla Massacre Propaganda Stunt Uses "Little Kid"" mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-30   10:18:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #74. To: sneakypete (#71) *I* am not responsible for your delusions or lack of knowledge. But I am responsible for making sure your Masters same gets shot down ASAP.... ;} You're in the Line of fire....you can step back and not get hurt.....;} mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-30   10:19:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #75. To: mcgowanjm, sneakypete, Mad Dog (#74) *I* am not responsible for your delusions or lack of knowledge. But I am responsible for making sure your Masters same gets shot down ASAP.... ;} You're in the Line of fire....you can step back and not get hurt.....;} Now, here is a scene straight out of The Twighlight Zone. Two of LF's most valued crackpots in a bitch fight. Who will win? Does anyone care? harrowup  posted on  2012-05-30   11:57:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #76. To: mcgowanjm (#70) I'm a Dirty Fuckin Hippy, Dude If you would just bathe you could be a clean hippy that smells good. Just saying. A K A Stone  posted on  2012-05-30   12:33:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #77. To: mcgowanjm, sneaky pete, ALL (#64) (Edited) And this IS the most appropriate venue for these comments. No, you foul, hate America FIRST! piece of gibbering libTURD SHIT, THIS THREAD IS NOT THE "PROPER VENUE" for your FILTH. Your ONLY purpose here was to do what you have done, to turn a respectful thread meant to HONOR ALL WHO HAVE DIED IN SERVICE, into a fucking political smear job. YOU, and EVERY cunt that does this to the honorable men and women who are our military, are the worst kind of FILTH. I KNEW that libTURD cunts like YOU wouldn't be able to CONTROL yourselves mctoejam. You libTURDS cunts are incapable of controlling yourselves afterall. I meant to show that YOU and ALL of your libTURD ilk are basic FILTH, by DEMONSTRATION. Then YOU demonstrate this with every post that you have made to this thread. Like ALL libTURD cunts, you try to make it about YOU. It isn't about YOU creep, it's about ALL OF THEM WHO HAVE DIED IN SERVICE! But you foul libTURD cunts aren't ever going to allow any respectful appreciation of the sacrifices OUR men and women have made, (sacrifices that enable gibbering libTURD garbage such as you to talk your foul hate filled shit as if you are sane or relevant btw creep). Your entire point here was and is to shit and piss all over the service, America, and the men and women who have DIED, (so that you can be a foul lying libTURD cunt without any consequences to you). You even shit all over your imaginary brother and mother, you FOUL beyond mere words creep. I would be VERY happy to talk to you face to face about this matter, anytime mctoejam. BUT, YOU being just another libTURD COWARD, and a LIAR, a brain dead Useful IDIOT supporter of TYRANNY with a happy face, and a literal PARASITE who exercises rights that OTHERS have paid for in BLOOD, SWEAT, AND TEARS, would never go face to face with somebody that you know would get REAL on your worthless libTURD crap. Face it mctoejam, you are a useless creep, and a PARASITE and a COWARD; AND the entire world KNOWS it. There is NOTHING that a worm like you mctoejam can EVER do to diminish or color the HONOR and RESPECT that ALL who have DIED for America HAVE by dint of their efforts and actions. YOU and your libTURD ilk in total aren't worth the wounding, let alone the life, of even one man. I wouldn't piss on you if you were on fire SCUM, and I suspect no American who loves America would either. When YOU look into the mirror creep, what looks back at you is foul beyond words. You make Dorian Grey's portrait look like a cover on some fancy magazine CREEP. I bet that you HATE yourself every time that you look into the mirror. Afterall, the ONLY things you can ever see in the mirror are a COWARD, a foul LIAR, a jealous and envious LOSER CREEP, and an over all LOSER who has to make up stories about your brother. It's obvious that you are just FILTH. To EVERYBODY. Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms. Mad Dog  posted on  2012-05-30   12:43:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #78. To: mcgowanjm, sneakypete, ALL (#65) And thyanx for quoting that scum , MD, Sneaky. I know you love his witty banner. I don't reply to him cause he's just another yukon wannabe. Apologizing for his Masters. The Top 1%. Probably getting some kind of paycheck from his Master. But maybe not. Maybe he's full on deluded. Always a possibility...;} Interesting, I posted a THREAD that HONORS MEMORIAL DAY, a day that has always been about just ONE THING, to HONOR ALL WHO HAVE DIED IN SERVICE TO AMERICA. I post it to HONOR them ALL, and to you that makes me "scum" eh mctoejam? LOL! OK. Sure, You BETCHA! My "witty banter" is orders of magnitude more intelligent, clear and information filled than you gerbil like screeching and posturing are loser. LOL! You don't reply to me you cowardly little libTURD cunt, because I DESTROY your gibbering made up BULLSHIT with absolutely ZERO effort. I have only ONE "master" mctoejam, HE is not of just this earth and HE is of ALL of THIS earth. Don't worry yer wittle noggin about it mctoejam. You OBVIOUSLY know not GOD. Gibber away fool. I would be happy to compare the factual content of ALL of my posts to that of yours creep. LOL! of course, finding ANY actual TRUTH/FACTS in your libTURD gibbering will be almost impossible. Btw mctoejam, I haven't been at LP for YEARS. Yukon has nothing to do with me, except that we live in the great state of ALASKA. But that's OK dim bulb, I understand that libTURD cunts such as you have absolutely zero chance of ever understanding INDIVIDUALS like ME, after all you libTURD cunts can't even survive outside of your HERDS, so you can't even concieve of people as INDIVIDUALS can you mctoejam? Hell you libTURD cunts can't even imagine how to deal with a world filled with INDIVIDUALS! Instead your brain dead SOP/dogma forces you to see people ONLY as parts of groups.. I'm NOT A GROUP mctoejam, I'm just ME. I'm an INDIVIDUAL American, you pitiful whiny little libTURD cunt, and you libTURD cunts have no idea about how to deal with ME or any other INDIVIDUAL American. You don't reply to me mctoejam because I stick your libTURD LIES and HYPOCRISY right back up your fat libTURD ass. I don't even bother pretending that you ever have a valid point, because you never have. It really comes down to one basic FACT, you are fucking STUPID mctoejam. Go play in the traffic loser. Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms. Mad Dog  posted on  2012-05-30   13:30:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #79. To: mcgowanjm (#70) And you have NEver threaded a Battle Field Report....from anywhere. I didn't know that was a requirement. But you're there to support our troops on the holidays and wonder why Memorial Day just doesn't have that Heft anymore....please. More proof that you are insane. I understand Memorial Day on a level that you don't because I used to be a career soldier and I lost a lot of friends. "It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011 Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter. sneakypete  posted on  2012-05-30   14:57:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #80. To: mcgowanjm (#74) But I am responsible for making sure your Masters same gets shot down ASAP.... ;} Once again,your ignorance is prize-winnning. You're in the Line of fire....you can step back and not get hurt.....;} I can't begin to tell you how skeered I am. "It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011 Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter. sneakypete  posted on  2012-05-30   14:59:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #81. To: Mad Dog (#78) Interesting, I posted a THREAD that HONORS MEMORIAL DAY, a day that has always been about just ONE THING, to HONOR ALL WHO HAVE DIED IN SERVICE TO AMERICA. Exactly. It has nothing to do with politics,and it damn sure has nothing to do with what might or might not happen in the future. Memorial Day is dedicated ENTIRELY to the past,and to the people that suffered and died so paranoid insane little shits like mcgowanjm are free to babble the nonsense they spew with practically every post. IT IS A DAY OF REMEMBRANCE FOR THE DEAD. PERIOD. "It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011 Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter. sneakypete  posted on  2012-05-30   15:03:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #82. To: harrowup (#75) Does anyone care? You do,Captain Crunch. "It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011 Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter. sneakypete  posted on  2012-05-30   15:05:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #83. To: sneakypete (#81) Interesting, I posted a THREAD that HONORS MEMORIAL DAY, a day that has always been about just ONE THING, to HONOR ALL WHO HAVE DIED IN SERVICE TO AMERICA. Exactly. It has nothing to do with politics,and it damn sure has nothing to do with what might or might not happen in the future. Memorial Day is dedicated ENTIRELY to the past,and to the people that suffered and died so paranoid insane little shits like mcgowanjm are free to babble the nonsense they spew with practically every post. IT IS A DAY OF REMEMBRANCE FOR THE DEAD. PERIOD. I can't express in mere words the depth or extent of my revulsion and contempt for Americans who can't show respect for OUR HONORED DEAD. Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms. Mad Dog  posted on  2012-05-30   16:17:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #84. To: sneakypete (#80) (Edited) *I* am not responsible for your delusions or lack of knowledge. But I am responsible for making sure your Masters same gets shot down ASAP.... ;} You did not understand. 'your Masters same' same = delusions or lack of knowledge. So: 'your Masters delusions or lack of knowledge. and like Cottontop Hatfield (&McCoys;), I don't expect you to be skeered.... ;} It's a Day of remembrance of the Dead....so is Halloween....;} but I remember the dead pretty much everyday....but that's just me. mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-31   11:45:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #85. To: sneakypete (#79) And you have NEver threaded a Battle Field Report....from anywhere. I didn't know that was a requirement. It's not, unless you want to have some cred on criticizing others for Military Acumen....;} mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-31   11:48:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #86. To: mcgowanjm (#84) . You foul gibbering libTURD cunt, you just can't help shitting all over your betters can you LOSER? Why don't YOU start a thread to discuss this crap you foul cowardly piece of shit? Oh yeah, THAT wouldn't shit all over OUR HONORED DEAD. I wouldn't piss on you if you were on fire. Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms. Mad Dog  posted on  2012-05-31   12:10:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #87. To: mcgowanjm (#85) .. You foul gibbering libTURD cunt, you just can't help shitting all over your betters can you LOSER? Why don't YOU start a thread to discuss this crap you foul cowardly piece of shit? Oh yeah, THAT wouldn't shit all over OUR HONORED DEAD. I wouldn't piss on you if you were on fire. Spit ... Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms. Mad Dog  posted on  2012-05-31   12:11:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #88. To: mcgowanjm (#85) It's not, unless you want to have some cred on criticizing others for Military Acumen....;} You really need to try peddling that crap to somebody that doesn't know any better. "It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011 Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter. sneakypete  posted on  2012-05-31   18:04:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #89. To: sneakypete (#88) HEADQUARTERS GRAND ARMY OF THE REPUBLIC General Orders No.11, WASHINGTON, D.C., May 5, 1868 First....in 1868 the Grand Army had hung my uncle 3 years earlier and by 1868, failing to find our resources had managed to steal 80 acres....;} The same 80 sticks out like a sore thumb on any land map today...;} So until Reconstruction in 1873 was over, we really didn't have much to do with the Grand Army.....;} mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-01   8:10:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #90. To: sneakypete (#88) It's not, unless you want to have some cred on criticizing others for Military Acumen....;} You really need to try peddling that crap to somebody that doesn't know any better. How do I know that you don't believe everything the Pentagon puts out then? 8D You think we win every battle? mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-01   8:11:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #91. To: sneakypete (#88) It's not, unless you want to have some cred on criticizing others for Military Acumen....;} You really need to try peddling that crap to somebody that doesn't know any better. See, the problem here, SP, is that we just don't ever find the time to talk about USSA military strategy and how it's been going since 9/11 until someone here decides it's time to Support the Troops. On one of many Troop supporting holidays....;} Which is why, maybe, it seems to you that I'm posting OffTopic/Discordant missives on same....;} Example: A Drone-Eat-Drone World With Its “Roadmap” in Tatters, The Pentagon Detours to Terminator Planet by Tom Engelhardt & By Nick Turse mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-01   8:14:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #92. To: All (#91) May 31, 2012 It’s now commonly estimated that more than 50 nations have drones, are making plans to develop them, or are at least planning to buy them from those who do produce them. In other words, the future global skies are going to be a busy -- and increasingly dangerous -- place. They will be filled not just with robotic surveillance aircraft, but also with non-U.S. remotely piloted armed assassins which, thanks to the path Washington has blazed, need pay no attention to anyone’s national sovereignty in a search for their version of bad guys to destroy. Iranians, Israelis, Russians, Chinese, Indians, British -- you name it and if they don’t already have something robotic aloft, they undoubtedly will soon enough. And those estimates don’t even include insurgent groups and terrorists, who are undoubtedly giving real thought to how to develop and use the equivalent of suicide drones. And of course I love how CSPAN (just an example of Rah Rah USSA/Israel journalism turns new ground with (? mark Topics): How do you feel about gov't cyber attacks? Or some bs like that. To intro Israel's throwing out FLame type software with ZERO consideration of blowback. mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-01   8:17:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #93. To: mcgowanjm, sneakypete (#89) HEADQUARTERS GRAND ARMY OF THE REPUBLIC General Orders No.11, WASHINGTON, D.C., May 5, 1868 First....in 1868 the Grand Army had hung my uncle 3 years earlier and by 1868, failing to find our resources had managed to steal 80 acres....;} The same 80 sticks out like a sore thumb on any land map today...;} So until Reconstruction in 1873 was over, we really didn't have much to do with the Grand Army.....;} LOL! You ignorant LYING piece of shit! The Grand Army of the Republic was a VETERANS organization you gibbering libTURD SCUM, and IT didn't even EXIST in 1865. ----- "Emerging most powerful among the various organizations would be the Grand Army of the Republic (GAR), which by 1890 would number almost 500,000 veterans of the "War of the Rebellion." Founded in Decatur, Illinois on April 6, 1866 by Benjamin F. Stephenson, membership was limited to honorably discharged veterans of the Union Army, Navy, Marine Corps or the Revenue Cutter Service who had served between April 12, 1861 and April 9, 1865. " garmuslib.org/GARhistory.htm ---- Maybe you mean one of the UNION ARMIES which in the field AT WAR in 1865 you gibbering moron? Who knows? and really, who cares? You libTURDS LIE when the simple TRUTH would do. How are we supposed to believe your LYING CRAP when you can't even get basic facts correct asshole? Turns out that you are as FOUL as you are STUPID. Of course that's SOP for you libTURD SCUM isn't it mctoejam? SCUM Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms. Mad Dog  posted on  2012-06-01   14:23:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #94. To: mcgowanjm (#90) . WHY again are you shitting all over THIS particular thread SCUM? Oh yeah, you WANT TO SHIT ON THE MEMORY OF OUR HONORED DEAD. Because you are a slimy piece of libTURD SHIT. You COWARDLY SCUM Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms. Mad Dog  posted on  2012-06-01   14:26:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #95. To: mcgowanjm (#91) .. WHY again are you shitting all over THIS particular thread SCUM? Oh yeah, you WANT TO SHIT ON THE MEMORY OF OUR HONORED DEAD. Because you are a slimy piece of libTURD SHIT. You filthy COWARDLY SCUM. Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms. Mad Dog  posted on  2012-06-01   14:29:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #96. To: mcgowanjm (#92) ... WHY again are you shitting all over THIS particular thread SCUM? Oh yeah, you WANT TO SHIT ON THE MEMORY OF OUR HONORED DEAD. Because you are a slimy piece of libTURD SHIT. You filthy COWARDLY SCUM. Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms. Mad Dog  posted on  2012-06-01   14:30:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #97. To: Mad Dog (#93) The Grand Army of the Republic was a VETERANS organization you gibbering libTURD SCUM, and IT didn't even EXIST in 1865. I know for a fact that the yankee army that marched off to the first battle with the Confederate Army was refereed to as "The Grand Army of the Republic". I have no doubt you are correct about a post Civil War yankee veterans organization also being called The Grand Army of the Republic,but the first organization to bear that title were Mr.Lincolns invaders. "It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011 Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter. sneakypete  posted on  2012-06-01   20:04:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #98. To: mcgowanjm (#92) It’s now commonly estimated that more than 50 nations have drones, are making plans to develop them, or are at least planning to buy them from those who do produce them. Looks like I'll be getting plenty of targets to practice on!!! Leftardism/Liberalism: The chickenschitt way to deal with life’s problems by creating solutions to problems that don’t exist, thereby creating a problem where none existed before and then having to find a solution to that one… CZ82  posted on  2012-06-01   20:13:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #99. To: sneakypete, ALL (#97) talking2mctoejam; The Grand Army of the Republic was a VETERANS organization you gibbering libTURD SCUM, and IT didn't even EXIST in 1865. pete; I know for a fact that the yankee army that marched off to the first battle with the Confederate Army was refereed to as "The Grand Army of the Republic". I have no doubt you are correct about a post Civil War yankee veterans organization also being called The Grand Army of the Republic,but the first organization to bear that title were Mr.Lincolns invaders. Sorry pete that is factually incorrect. According to the US Army, the UNION Army lead by McDowell was called the Army of Northeastern Virginia. "McDowell immediately began organizing what became known as the Army of Northeastern Virginia, 35,000 men arranged in five divisions." www.histo ry.army.mil/Staf...ull%20Run/Overview.htm#b1 ------------- As to "the Grand Army of the Republic". Sorry pete wrong on the facts again. There is no citation, nor ANY mention of "the Grand Army of the Republic", ever before the GAR was founded as a veterans organization in 1866. The GAR NEVER existed except as such an organization. It was NEVER a real Army. Sometimes different armies had different names, but during the WAR, no Union Army was ever called "the Grand Army of the Republic. www.civilwarhome.com/gran darmyofrepublic.htm ------- Nothing personal, just the truth. Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms. Mad Dog  posted on  2012-06-01   21:27:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #100. To: sneakypete (#97) . Sorry pete, I just searched the civil WAR's order of battle for the GAR and it does NOT exist. I can find NO citation of any such army Union or Confederate on any order of battle list. I also know from prior experience with the GAR that it was NEVER anything but a veterans organization. I can still remember wondering what that "GAR" after really old men's names was when I was a wee crumb snatcher. My own family fought for South Carolina. Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms. Mad Dog  posted on  2012-06-01   21:42:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #101. To: Mad Dog (#99) (Edited) According to the US Army, the UNION Army lead by McDowell was called the Army of Northeastern Virginia. It has been a few decades since I really researched this stuff,but I am pretty sure I remember at least on newspaper refereeing to Winfield Scott's Army that marched off to "beat the rebels and end the war in 3 days" as "The Grand Army of the Republic". This was the First Battle of Bull Run,and all the "right people" from DC society rode carriages out to the battlefield to enjoy the show because they didn't want to miss the war. That battle was a real wake-up call for a lot of people. Even people who weren't there,thanks to the battlefield photographs taken by Mathew Brady and his new-fangled camera. There is also a Civil War museum in Pa that calls itself the Grand Army of the Republic Museum,and while clearly claiming this term covers the Union Army during the Civil War,they also mention the veterans organization you write about,and indicate they took their name from that organization. http://garmuslib.org/ In my OPINION it is likely in either case that the name came from the title awarded to Scott's army by a patriotic reporter trying to juice up a story to get readers attention. "It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011 Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter. sneakypete  posted on  2012-06-01   22:18:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #102. To: sneakypete (#101) . First Bull Run is the battle I just spoke of. I was of a similar mind as you are before I started collecting GAR exonumia. But as I have looked for a citation over the years to prove to myself where I got this apparently incorrect idea, I've not been able to find one. Maybe it was used unofficially but never to my knowledge was it ever official. Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms. Mad Dog  posted on  2012-06-02   1:40:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #103. To: CZ82 (#98) Looks like I'll be getting plenty of targets to practice on!!! The first drone shot down in the US. You won't here about this except thru a non reputable site. Or if you live near where the drone went down....;} He is my hero.” Brazas’ father told the Greensboro News-Record that the sailor was shot while trying to help a soldier get in a helicopter. ***** The only reason for helping someone into a helo on the battle field is that it's an ambulance..... Several dozen of US-NATO invaders killed, 2 helicopters destroyed in martyrdom operation Zabihullah Mujahid E-mail Print PDF Friday, 11 Rajab 1433 Friday, 01 June 2012 17:32 KHOST, June. 01 – Mujahideen officials say that scores of US invaders were killed and many hurt in martyrdom operation which going on against Sahra Bagh Airbase in the capital of Khost province. Mujahideen stormed Sahra Bagh airbase with missiles, rockets and heavy and light weapons from three sides at about 1:00 p.m. today and at about 4:00 p.m. shot down two of the enemy’s helicopters and setting them on fire. Whereas, at five o’clock, Mujahideen carried out a motorcycle bomb attack on the gate of the Airfield, killing and wounding scores of the invaders who were carrying the dead and wounded to the ambulance helicopters landed far from the base for fear of being shot by Mujahideen. The fighting is still on going. mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-02   9:33:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #104. To: Mad Dog (#102) Maybe it was used unofficially but never to my knowledge was it ever official. You're probably right. It sounds like a title a presidential spokescritter/PR hack or a newspaper writer/editor would come up with,not a Army General. "It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011 Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter. sneakypete  posted on  2012-06-02   10:02:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #105. To: mcgowanjm (#103) The only reason for helping someone into a helo on the battle field is that it's an ambulance..... ANY vehicle of any sort leaving a battlefield with the wounded is a ambulance. Some ambulances are just better armed than other ambulances. "It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011 Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter. sneakypete  posted on  2012-06-02   10:04:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #106. To: sneakypete (#105) The only reason for helping someone into a helo on the battle field is that it's an ambulance..... ANY vehicle of any sort leaving a battlefield with the wounded is a ambulance. Some ambulances are just better armed than other ambulances. Thank you. The point was a man was shot putting another man on a helo in the midst of battle. And that was the only casualty? So what was the 'ambulance' doing in the middle of battle anyway....;} mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-02   10:48:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #107. To: mcgowanjm (#106) So what was the 'ambulance' doing in the middle of battle anyway....;} It was there to take off the wounded. How much more obvious could the answer be? "It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011 Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter. sneakypete  posted on  2012-06-02   12:20:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #108. To: sneakypete (#107) So what was the 'ambulance' doing in the middle of battle anyway....;} It was there to take off the wounded. So care to show me the 'battle' that took place where all this carnage happened? Noting that the article I, pulled that soldier's death out of confirmed that the Pentagon had yet to record his death....;} Cause here's what I think happened: "Several dozen of US-NATO invaders killed, 2 helicopters destroyed in martyrdom operation Zabihullah Mujahid E-mail Print PDF Friday, 11 Rajab 1433 Friday, 01 June 2012 17:32 KHOST, June. 01 – Mujahideen officials say that scores of US invaders were killed and many hurt in martyrdom operation which going on against Sahra Bagh Airbase in the capital of Khost province. Mujahideen stormed Sahra Bagh airbase with missiles, rockets and heavy and light weapons from three sides at about 1:00 p.m. today and at about 4:00 p.m. shot down two of the enemy’s helicopters and setting them on fire. Whereas, at five o’clock, Mujahideen carried out a motorcycle bomb attack on the gate of the Airfield, killing and wounding scores of the invaders who were carrying the dead and wounded to the ambulance helicopters landed far from the base for fear of being shot by Mujahideen. The fighting is still on going." Happening with regularity now. Bet Landstuhl is full. mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-02   12:27:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #109. To: mcgowanjm (#108) Cause here's what I think happened: Yeah,but you are insane and at the risk of repeating myself,a Muslim. You think all sorts of weird shit. "It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011 Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter. sneakypete  posted on  2012-06-02   12:53:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #110. To: mcgowanjm (#103) . WHY again are you shitting all over THIS particular thread SCUM? Oh yeah, YOU WANT TO SHIT ON THE MEMORY OF OUR HONORED DEAD. Because you are a slimy piece of libTURD SHIT. You filthy COWARDLY SCUM. Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms. Mad Dog  posted on  2012-06-02   13:21:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #111. To: mcgowanjm (#106) .. WHY again are you shitting all over THIS particular thread SCUM? Oh yeah, YOU WANT TO SHIT ON THE MEMORY OF OUR HONORED DEAD. Because you are a slimy piece of libTURD SHIT. You filthy COWARDLY SCUM. Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms. Mad Dog  posted on  2012-06-02   13:22:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #112. To: mcgowanjm (#108) . WHY again are you shitting all over THIS particular thread SCUM? Oh yeah, YOU WANT TO SHIT ON THE MEMORY OF OUR HONORED DEAD. Because you are a slimy piece of libTURD SHIT. You filthy COWARDLY SCUM. Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms. Mad Dog  posted on  2012-06-02   13:24:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #113. To: sneakypete (#104) Maybe it was used unofficially but never to my knowledge was it ever official. You're probably right. It sounds like a title a presidential spokescritter/PR hack or a newspaper writer/editor would come up with,not a Army General. Well, the typical media, (in the press and dispatches and speeches etc), language of the time was usually an exercise in pretty flowery, (by our standards today), rhetoric. Remember that Lincoln's "Gettysburg Address" was considered a failure at the time. One problem was that it was way too short, (about 15 minutes), political speeches of the times were almost always longer than an hour or more. I have no citations but I'm pretty sure that the dispatches/press did call some of the Union Armies "Grand" in their reports and descriptions. Our ancestors LOVED flowery/fancy language and rhetoric. Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms. Mad Dog  posted on  2012-06-02   13:46:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #114. To: sneakypete (#109) (Edited) Cause here's what I think happened: Yeah,but you are insane and at the risk of repeating myself,a Muslim. You think all sorts of weird shit. As you practice MD refutals with nothing but Ad Hominem attacks. Clever, SP...;} www.google.com/search?q=k...official&client=firefox-a And like the Murrah Building, you can tell where the USSA's weak spots are cause that's where we locate the Day Care Centers/ Schools. 'No one injured when the Explosives Laden Truck blew up except women, children, school kids.....LMFAO mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-03   9:29:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #115. To: mcgowanjm (#114) And like the Murrah Building, you can tell where the USSA's weak spots are cause that's where we locate the Day Care Centers/ Schools. And it's easy to tell where the raghead weak spots are because they are all in a city called Mecca. If you and your idiot boys keep pushing,you are likely to discover a truth you won't like. What goes around comes around. "It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011 Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter. sneakypete  posted on  2012-06-03   13:03:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #116. To: mcgowanjm, ALL (#114) As you practice MD refutals with nothing but Ad Hominem attacks. I have NEWS for you SCUM, when it's the TRUTH about YOU, it's the simple objective TRUTH, and the TRUTH IS THAT YOU ARE A KNOWN ... libTURD HYPOCRITE LYING piece of SHIT CREEP! Did you tell everybody here that you are a PARASITE that works for the gooberment mctoejam? Did you make sure that you told everybody that YOU DEPEND 100% on TAX money to live on mctoejam? Did you happen to mention to everybody that you are a practicing Mohammedan, (PISS be upon him), mctoejam? Did you happen to mention that you HATE America and AMERICANS mctoejam? Did you happen to mention how you DESPISE all US vets and active service members you foul piece of shit? You called the game SCUM. So .... Lets PLAY SCUM. SPIT ... Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms. Mad Dog  posted on  2012-06-03   15:17:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest

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