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Title: HEADQUARTERS GRAND ARMY OF THE REPUBLIC General Orders No.11, WASHINGTON, D.C., May 5, 1868
Source: [None]
URL Source: http://www.usmemorialday.org/order11.html
Published: May 26, 2012
Author: General John Logan, national commander o
Post Date: 2012-05-26 02:00:24 by Mad Dog
Keywords: ALL, of, them
Views: 64975
Comments: 116

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HEADQUARTERS GRAND ARMY OF THE REPUBLIC

General Orders No.11, WASHINGTON, D.C., May 5, 1868

The 30th day of May, 1868, is designated for the purpose of strewing with flowers or otherwise decorating the graves of comrades who died in defense of their country during the late rebellion, and whose bodies now lie in almost every city, village, and hamlet church-yard in the land. In this observance no form of ceremony is prescribed, but posts and comrades will in their own way arrange such fitting services and testimonials of respect as circumstances may permit.

We are organized, comrades, as our regulations tell us, for the purpose among other things, "of preserving and strengthening those kind and fraternal feelings which have bound together the soldiers, sailors, and marines who united to suppress the late rebellion."

What can aid more to assure this result than cherishing tenderly the memory of our heroic dead, who made their breasts a barricade between our country and its foes?

Their soldier lives were the reveille of freedom to a race in chains, and their deaths the tattoo of rebellious tyranny in arms.

We should guard their graves with sacred vigilance.

All that the consecrated wealth and taste of the nation can add to their adornment and security is but a fitting tribute to the memory of her slain defenders.

Let no wanton foot tread rudely on such hallowed grounds.

Let pleasant paths invite the coming and going of reverent visitors and fond mourners.

Let no vandalism of avarice or neglect, no ravages of time testify to the present or to the coming generations that we have forgotten as a people the cost of a free and undivided republic.

If other eyes grow dull, other hands slack, and other hearts cold in the solemn trust, ours shall keep it well as long as the light and warmth of life remain to us.

Let us, then, at the time appointed gather around their sacred remains and garland the passionless mounds above them with the choicest flowers of spring-time; let us raise above them the dear old flag they saved from hishonor; let us in this solemn presence renew our pledges to aid and assist those whom they have left among us a sacred charge upon a nation's gratitude, the soldier's and sailor's widow and orphan.

It is the purpose of the Commander-in-Chief to inaugurate this observance with the hope that it will be kept up from year to year, while a survivor of the war remains to honor the memory of his departed comrades.

He earnestly desires the public press to lend its friendly aid in bringing to the notice of comrades in all parts of the country in time for simultaneous compliance therewith.

Department commanders will use efforts to make this order effective.

By order of

JOHN A. LOGAN, Commander-in-Chief

N.P. CHIPMAN, Adjutant General

Official: WM. T. COLLINS, A.A.G.

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#5. To: All (#0)

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Remember

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Remember me when I am gone away,

Gone far away into the silent land;

When you can no more hold me by the hand,

Nor I half turn to go yet turning stay.

*

Remember me when no more day by day

You tell me of our future that you plann'd:

Only remember me; you understand

It will be late to counsel then or pray.

*

Yet if you should forget me for a while

And afterwards remember, do not grieve:

For if the darkness and corruption leave

A vestige of the thoughts that once I had,

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Better by far you should forget and smile

Than that you should remember and be sad.

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CHRISTINA ROSSETTI

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-05-26   3:14:16 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Mad Dog (#5)

House Bill HR. 4133. www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/112/hr4133

Senate Bill: S. 2165 www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/112/s2165

The U.S.-Israel Enhanced Security Cooperation Act of 2012 is now under review by the Senate Foreign Relations Committee. …

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#1. To: Peo111 (#0)

If we survive, the Archives will be full of the following.

Replace the Leading Characters/Nations with Today's USSA/Israel fools....;}

World War I, German Dispatches and the Kaiser's Notes www.gwpda.org/1914/wilnotes.htmlCached You +1'd this publicly. Undo Apr 7, 1996 – DISPATCHES ANNOTATIONS BY THE KAISER. VIENNA, June 30, 1914. Dispatch from the Ger- man Ambassador at Vienna. (German ...

World War I, German Dispatches and the Kaiser's Notes net.lib.byu.edu/~rdh7/wwi/1914/wilnotes.htmlCached You +1'd this publicly. Undo Apr 7, 1996 – DISPATCHES ANNOTATIONS BY THE KAISER. VIENNA, June 30, 1914. Dispatch from the Ger- man Ambassador at Vienna. (German ...

REPROVES GERMAN AGITATORS.; Kaiser's Ambassador to ... query.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res... You +1'd this publicly. Undo ... says the Vienna correspondent of The Times. In speaking at the German colony s banquet in celebration of the Kaiser's birthday, the Ambassador tendered ...

First World War.com - Primary Documents - Kaiser Wilhelm on ... www.firstworldwar.com/sou...kaiserscomments.htmCached - Similar You +1'd this publicly. Undo Kaiser Wilhelm II and sons Reproduced below are a series of telegrams sent by Baron Tschirschky - German ambassador in Vienna - to the German Kaiser, ...

Trenches on the Web - Timeline: Jul-1914: The July Crisis www.worldwar1.com/tlplot.htmCached - Similar You +1'd this publicly. Undo Jan 15, 2000 – German Ambassador to Vienna, Count Heinrich von Tschirschky, warns ... The twenty day cruise had been planned for months and the Kaiser ...

mcgowanjm posted on 2012-05-26 8:23:00 ET Reply Trace Private Reply Edit #2. To: Peo111 (#0)

Charlie Madison via Arthur Silber...powerofnarrative blog:

"Many Americans, at least those who prefer to think of themselves as intelligent and well-informed, are willing to laugh at their own idiocies.

They are not so ready to admit that their desperately loved self-conception, an idealized view of themselves and their country that they cling to with the neurotic terror of the criminal who fears exposure at any moment,

disguises a fact that has assumed awful, overwhelming clarity to much of the rest of the world: that Americans are among the most vicious killers who have ever lived.

"It’s not war that’s unnatural to us – it’s virtue. As long as valor remains a virtue, we shall have soldiers. So, I preach cowardice. Through cowardice, we shall all be saved.

...

I don’t trust people who make bitter reflections about war. ... It’s always the generals with the bloodiest records who are the first to shout what a Hell it is.

And it’s always the widows who lead the Memorial Day parades … we shall never end wars ... by blaming it on ministers and generals or warmongering imperialists or all the other banal bogies.

It’s the rest of us who build statues to those generals and name boulevards after those ministers; the rest of us who make heroes of our dead and shrines of our battlefields. We wear our widows’ weeds like nuns and perpetuate war by exalting its sacrifices. My brother died at Anzio – an everyday soldier’s death, no special heroism involved.

They buried what pieces they found of him. But my mother insists he died a brave death and pretends to be very proud.

mcgowanjm

mcgowanjm posted on 2012-05-26 8:26:56 ET

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-26   8:28:03 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: mcgowanjm, mad dog (#6)

My brother died at Anzio – an everyday soldier’s death, no special heroism involved.

They buried what pieces they found of him. But my mother insists he died a brave death and pretends to be very proud.

Oh yeah, the silly man died fighting to free europe from the nazi occupation.

Have some respect for an american patriot you pig. Veterans die year after year protecting your right to run your stupid fucking mouth.

You're an ASSHOLE.

calcon  posted on  2012-05-26   12:56:55 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: calcon (#8)

Oh yeah, the silly man died fighting to free europe from the nazi occupation.

So here's where you can tell us why the US attacked Germany.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-28   9:51:02 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: mcgowanjm (#24)

So here's where you can tell us why the US attacked Germany.

Because they declared war on us and attacked us first?

sneakypete  posted on  2012-05-28   11:06:06 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: sneakypete (#28)

So here's where you can tell us why the US attacked Germany.

Because they declared war on us and attacked us first?

wrong. Try again.

Has to do with the US breaking the German code as well as the Japanese....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-28   21:33:56 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: mcgowanjm (#35)

......

THIS is NOT the appropriate thread for you to post your libTURD crap loser.

THIS thread is about MEMORIAL DAY whose only purpose is to HONOR all who have DIED in SERVICE.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-05-29   12:52:53 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#63. To: Mad Dog, *Military or Vets Affairs*, mcgowanjm (#49)

THIS is NOT the appropriate thread for you to post your libTURD crap loser.

THIS thread is about MEMORIAL DAY whose only purpose is to HONOR all who have DIED in SERVICE.

exactly.

It ain't like there is a shortage of threads around here on which to post paranoid fantasies.

sneakypete  posted on  2012-05-29   13:30:17 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#64. To: sneakypete (#63) (Edited)

THIS is NOT the appropriate thread for you to post your libTURD crap loser.

THIS thread is about MEMORIAL DAY whose only purpose is to HONOR all who have DIED in SERVICE.

exactly.

Except that LF has nothing but people like you dreaming about the glories of USSAn military conquest.

And just when do we say that Empire is not what America is about.

Except that America is exactly about conquest and genocide of indigenous people,

so that God's destiny and Amerika's, but I'm being redundant here can be fulfilled.

Memorial Day is over. Just the Bottom 99% getting a Day off.....maybe.

And maybe a very few calling it a paid vacation.

That's it.

If you want to honor. Then bering ALL of ou8r troops home now.

But you don't want that. You think that somehow something is being defended.

Something honorable.

But nothing of the sort is occuring. Only genocide with massive disfiguring physical/mental wounds of our military.

But don't worry. Every civilization does the 'Sparta' thing.

It's last hurrah. Before spiraling into the dust bin of history.

Which you will learn. One way or another.

And this IS the most appropriate venue for these comments.

Signed,

Ddirty Fuckin Hippy.....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-30   9:07:16 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#68. To: mcgowanjm (#64) (Edited)

Except that LF has nothing but people like you dreaming about the glories of USSAn military conquest.

Wrong,and even if that were true,who the hell are you to decide to drop a turd in the soup pot?

Especially given that you have obvious emotional problems including jealousy and a devout hatred for successful people.

In short,grow the HELL up,and quit acting like a whiney little bitch of a 8 year old

. And this IS the most appropriate venue for these comments.

Signed,

Ddirty Fuckin Hippy.....;}

You flatter yourself. You are just a petty,jealous,whiney little bitch.

sneakypete  posted on  2012-05-30   10:07:55 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#70. To: sneakypete (#68) (Edited)

Wrong,and even if that were true,who the hell are you to decide to drop a turd in the soup pot?

Especially given that you have obvious emotional problems including jealousy and a devout hatred for successful people.

In short,grow the HELL up,and quit acting like a whiney little bitch of a 8 year old.

LMFAO

I'm a Dirty Fuckin Hippy, Dude

Right since Katrina.

And I won;t let BS go by w/o an answer.

You need to call your baby sitter and tell her that the Hippy is Not playing well with others....8D

And you have NEver threaded a Battle Field Report....from anywhere.

But you're there to support our troops on the holidays and wonder why Memorial Day just doesn't have that Heft anymore....please.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-30   10:11:29 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#79. To: mcgowanjm (#70)

And you have NEver threaded a Battle Field Report....from anywhere.

I didn't know that was a requirement.

But you're there to support our troops on the holidays and wonder why Memorial Day just doesn't have that Heft anymore....please.

More proof that you are insane. I understand Memorial Day on a level that you don't because I used to be a career soldier and I lost a lot of friends.

sneakypete  posted on  2012-05-30   14:57:06 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#85. To: sneakypete (#79)

And you have NEver threaded a Battle Field Report....from anywhere.

I didn't know that was a requirement.

It's not, unless you want to have some cred on criticizing others for Military Acumen....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-31   11:48:44 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#88. To: mcgowanjm (#85)

It's not, unless you want to have some cred on criticizing others for Military Acumen....;}

You really need to try peddling that crap to somebody that doesn't know any better.

sneakypete  posted on  2012-05-31   18:04:38 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#89. To: sneakypete (#88)

HEADQUARTERS GRAND ARMY OF THE REPUBLIC General Orders No.11, WASHINGTON, D.C., May 5, 1868

First....in 1868 the Grand Army had hung my uncle 3 years earlier and by 1868, failing to find our resources had managed to steal 80 acres....;}

The same 80 sticks out like a sore thumb on any land map today...;}

So until Reconstruction in 1873 was over, we really didn't have much to do with the Grand Army.....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-01   8:10:04 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#93. To: mcgowanjm, sneakypete (#89)

HEADQUARTERS GRAND ARMY OF THE REPUBLIC General Orders No.11, WASHINGTON, D.C., May 5, 1868

First....in 1868 the Grand Army had hung my uncle 3 years earlier and by 1868, failing to find our resources had managed to steal 80 acres....;}

The same 80 sticks out like a sore thumb on any land map today...;}

So until Reconstruction in 1873 was over, we really didn't have much to do with the Grand Army.....;}

LOL!

You ignorant LYING piece of shit!

The Grand Army of the Republic was a VETERANS organization you gibbering libTURD SCUM, and IT didn't even EXIST in 1865.

-----

"Emerging most powerful among the various organizations would be the Grand Army of the Republic (GAR), which by 1890 would number almost 500,000 veterans of the "War of the Rebellion."

Founded in Decatur, Illinois on April 6, 1866 by Benjamin F. Stephenson, membership was limited to honorably discharged veterans of the Union Army, Navy, Marine Corps or the Revenue Cutter Service who had served between April 12, 1861 and April 9, 1865. "

garmuslib.org/GARhistory.htm

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Maybe you mean one of the UNION ARMIES which in the field AT WAR in 1865 you gibbering moron?

Who knows? and really, who cares?

You libTURDS LIE when the simple TRUTH would do.

How are we supposed to believe your LYING CRAP when you can't even get basic facts correct asshole?

Turns out that you are as FOUL as you are STUPID.

Of course that's SOP for you libTURD SCUM isn't it mctoejam?

SCUM

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-06-01   14:23:34 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#97. To: Mad Dog (#93)

The Grand Army of the Republic was a VETERANS organization you gibbering libTURD SCUM, and IT didn't even EXIST in 1865.

I know for a fact that the yankee army that marched off to the first battle with the Confederate Army was refereed to as "The Grand Army of the Republic".

I have no doubt you are correct about a post Civil War yankee veterans organization also being called The Grand Army of the Republic,but the first organization to bear that title were Mr.Lincolns invaders.

sneakypete  posted on  2012-06-01   20:04:28 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#99. To: sneakypete, ALL (#97)

talking2mctoejam; The Grand Army of the Republic was a VETERANS organization you gibbering libTURD SCUM, and IT didn't even EXIST in 1865.

pete; I know for a fact that the yankee army that marched off to the first battle with the Confederate Army was refereed to as "The Grand Army of the Republic".

I have no doubt you are correct about a post Civil War yankee veterans organization also being called The Grand Army of the Republic,but the first organization to bear that title were Mr.Lincolns invaders.

Sorry pete that is factually incorrect.

According to the US Army, the UNION Army lead by McDowell was called the Army of Northeastern Virginia.

"McDowell immediately began organizing what became known as the Army of Northeastern Virginia, 35,000 men arranged in five divisions."

www.histo ry.army.mil/Staf...ull%20Run/Overview.htm#b1

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As to "the Grand Army of the Republic".

Sorry pete wrong on the facts again. There is no citation, nor ANY mention of "the Grand Army of the Republic", ever before the GAR was founded as a veterans organization in 1866.

The GAR NEVER existed except as such an organization. It was NEVER a real Army.

Sometimes different armies had different names, but during the WAR, no Union Army was ever called "the Grand Army of the Republic.

www.civilwarhome.com/gran darmyofrepublic.htm

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Nothing personal, just the truth.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-06-01   21:27:52 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#101. To: Mad Dog (#99) (Edited)

According to the US Army, the UNION Army lead by McDowell was called the Army of Northeastern Virginia.

It has been a few decades since I really researched this stuff,but I am pretty sure I remember at least on newspaper refereeing to Winfield Scott's Army that marched off to "beat the rebels and end the war in 3 days" as "The Grand Army of the Republic". This was the First Battle of Bull Run,and all the "right people" from DC society rode carriages out to the battlefield to enjoy the show because they didn't want to miss the war. That battle was a real wake-up call for a lot of people. Even people who weren't there,thanks to the battlefield photographs taken by Mathew Brady and his new-fangled camera.

There is also a Civil War museum in Pa that calls itself the Grand Army of the Republic Museum,and while clearly claiming this term covers the Union Army during the Civil War,they also mention the veterans organization you write about,and indicate they took their name from that organization.

http://garmuslib.org/

In my OPINION it is likely in either case that the name came from the title awarded to Scott's army by a patriotic reporter trying to juice up a story to get readers attention.

sneakypete  posted on  2012-06-01   22:18:30 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#102. To: sneakypete (#101)

.

First Bull Run is the battle I just spoke of.

I was of a similar mind as you are before I started collecting GAR exonumia.

But as I have looked for a citation over the years to prove to myself where I got this apparently incorrect idea, I've not been able to find one.

Maybe it was used unofficially but never to my knowledge was it ever official.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-06-02   1:40:50 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#104. To: Mad Dog (#102)

Maybe it was used unofficially but never to my knowledge was it ever official.

You're probably right. It sounds like a title a presidential spokescritter/PR hack or a newspaper writer/editor would come up with,not a Army General.

sneakypete  posted on  2012-06-02   10:02:09 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#113. To: sneakypete (#104)

Maybe it was used unofficially but never to my knowledge was it ever official.

You're probably right. It sounds like a title a presidential spokescritter/PR hack or a newspaper writer/editor would come up with,not a Army General.

Well, the typical media, (in the press and dispatches and speeches etc), language of the time was usually an exercise in pretty flowery, (by our standards today), rhetoric.

Remember that Lincoln's "Gettysburg Address" was considered a failure at the time. One problem was that it was way too short, (about 15 minutes), political speeches of the times were almost always longer than an hour or more.

I have no citations but I'm pretty sure that the dispatches/press did call some of the Union Armies "Grand" in their reports and descriptions.

Our ancestors LOVED flowery/fancy language and rhetoric.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-06-02 13:46:46 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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