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Title: DOJ pressures university to allow 38-year old man access to women’s restrooms
Source: TDC.com
URL Source: http://dailycaller.com/2012/05/23/d ... an-access-to-womens-restrooms/
Published: May 25, 2012
Author: Caroline May
Post Date: 2012-05-25 16:11:27 by CZ82
Keywords: None
Views: 23200
Comments: 72

DOJ pressures university to allow 38-year old man access to women’s restrooms

Published: 11:03 PM 05/23/2012, By Caroline May

Watch out, you ladies at the University of Arkansas at Fort Smith: Those feet under the stall next to you might just belong to a 38-year-old man.

Despite opposition from female students, UAFS has decided on “advice of counsel” to allow a 38-year-old anatomically-male, transgendered student access to the women’s bathrooms on campus.

According to a report from the conservative Campus Reform, the university decided to reverse its transgender policy after receiving a letter from the Department of Justice. The school’s initial solution was to allow the man to use gender-neutral bathrooms instead of the women’s restrooms, and to offer to convert more bathrooms into gender-neutral areas.

“Because of the stance we took, the individual filed a complaint with the Office of Civil Rights in the Department of Justice,” Mark Horn, vice president of university relations, told Campus Reform.

Jennifer Braly, the 38-year-old male student who was not satisfied with the university’s policy, filed a complaint with the Justice Department and sued.

“I am frustrated and highly depressed about all of these unfair restrictions,” Braly explained in an online appeal for sex-change surgery donations. “I live as a woman full time and have been for a year and a half now. I have natural breast development bigger than some normal girls from the hormone treatment. The only thing restricting me is what’s between my legs. Everyone is so concerned with what’s between my legs. I am just as much woman as anyone else.”

According to Campus Reform’s interview with Horn, it was a letter from the Department of Justice that led to the bathroom policy change that allows Braly to use women’s restrooms.

“[T]he office of civil rights basically made its expectations through the attorney and the decision was made to respond to that direction,” Horn said. “[T]he DOJ complaint caused revisiting of our thinking. … In the eyes of the law, this individual [Braly] is entitled to use the bathroom that she identifies with.”

Neither DOJ nor UAFS have released the letter in question. DOJ explained to Campus Reform that the records “pertain to a currently active Civil Rights Division enforcement and access to the records should therefore be denied pursuant to 5 U.S.C. § 552(b)(7)(A) since disclosure thereof could reasonably be expected to interfere with Civil Rights Division enforcement proceedings.”


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The school’s initial solution was to allow the man to use gender-neutral bathrooms instead of the women’s restrooms, and to offer to convert more bathrooms into gender-neutral areas.---- What they should do is refuse to do anything at all and let the "IT" find it's own place to go to the bathroom.... Preferably at home where "IT" belongs....

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#2. To: CZ82 (#0)

She should be allowed to use the woman's rest room because that is exactly what she is. Women like her have no interest in being predatory when they prefer the opposite sex as partners. And anyone taking say Premarin estrogens conjugated and an androgen blocker like say spironolactone can't preform sexually like a man anyway.

It is unavoidable to have people do a period before surgical correction is done, as it is crucial to be very sure they are indeed transgender, as once someone's genitalia have been reshaped, breast implants given and a bilateral orchiectomy is preformed, there is no going back.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2012-05-26   0:14:20 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Ferret Mike (#2)

She should be allowed to use the woman's rest room because that is exactly what she is. Women like her have no interest in being predatory when they prefer the opposite sex as partners. And anyone taking say Premarin estrogens conjugated and an androgen blocker like say spironolactone can't preform sexually like a man anyway.

It is unavoidable to have people do a period before surgical correction is done, as it is crucial to be very sure they are indeed transgender, as once someone's genitalia have been reshaped, breast implants given and a bilateral orchiectomy is preformed, there is no going back.

My that was a mouthful, irrelevant but surely a mouthful.....

I wonder if he/she could sell it's spare parts to Chaz??? Chaz seems to be missing the appropriate "appendages" to be able to do the urinal experience!!! Also seems to be lacking enough sense on how to run it's life too!!! I wonder how much prodding from Cher had to do with making that situation/mess a reality???? (shaking head slowly back and forth)......

CZ82  posted on  2012-05-26   8:21:11 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: CZ82 (#4)

Chaz's life is more complete in the role his brain is differentiated for.

I'm sorry you suffer so badly from the affliction of bigotry you feel society has to prevent the only treatments that correct the problems when the human brain develops one way, and the body another.

Until this problem can be detected and remedied prenatally by understanding the development process and developing the means to detect this and remedy if this is at all possible, it earlier in the development of the baby in a mother's womb, the best treatments will always be to remedy this with the current methods of treatments that are used today.

It hurts no one to make people's lives richer by the means of current treatment protocols. And no one should be forced to suffer merely to appease the disease of hatred and intolerance people like you suffer from.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2012-05-26   14:17:29 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Ferret Mike (#9) (Edited)

Chaz's life is more complete in the role his brain is differentiated for.

I'm sorry you suffer so badly from the affliction of bigotry you feel society has to prevent the only treatments that correct the problems when the human brain develops one way, and the body another.

Until this problem can be detected and remedied prenatally by understanding the development process and developing the means to detect this and remedy if this is at all possible, it earlier in the development of the baby in a mother's womb, the best treatments will always be to remedy this with the current methods of treatments that are used today.

It hurts no one to make people's lives richer by the means of current treatment protocols. And no one should be forced to suffer merely to appease the disease of hatred and intolerance people like you suffer from.

Wow, you dropped "3" overused AND irrelevant cards again, all in 1 paragraph.... that must be a record!!! You could have just said that I was disgusted and you would have been 100% accurate..... Not disgusted about their obvious mental problems but disgusted in the way in which they addressed them... The simple solution is usually the best solution, but then again the doctors don't make near as much money, do they...... and it doesn't make those who want to expand the gay population happy either....

By the way what proof is there that these surgical procedures actually work????? They were messed up in the head before AND after the treatments, doesn't seem like they work too well.. Sounds like a good nut cracker and some meds would reap better results... ($5 says what few credible psyches there are left in the APA would agree with that)..... simple is better.....

CZ82  posted on  2012-05-26   17:37:36 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: CZ82 (#11)

They are the ones who have to be comfortable in their bodies, not you or me. People trying to fit into the gender role they self identify as are no danger in the rest room.

I have known transgender people before and after their physical problems were addressed and if they were comfortable and happier -- and they contently seem to be flourishing better then they did, that was all I care about.

I think transvestites which are those fully wishing to be male and are merely cross dressing for whatever particular reason they wish to need to keep out of the ladies room; but if someone has changed the gender marker on their ID or license and live as the gender they feel they are, they should be left alone.

If they are just beginning to remedy what always was a serious problem to them because they have always known the gender role of their physicality did not fit them, then they should also be considerate enough to discuss the issue in restaurants, coffee shops and other places they go to to be considerate of the feelings of others, but tbeir right to use the restroom of choice should always be respected.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2012-05-27   5:54:07 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Ferret Mike (#13)

If they are just beginning to remedy what always was a serious problem to them because they have always known the gender role of their physicality did not fit them,

Someday, like all of us, you will know that GOD doesn't make mistakes, despite your contrary smears. Satan has convinced you, and all those poor, lost souls, that GOD made a mistake when he created them.

Satan is sooo evil, he has even convinced men that their chidren who are born with downs-syndrome, autism, or some other mark that does not meet their standards of 'normal', that these children do not deserve to live, and should be put to death, even before they are born.

God loves all of us, regardless of our differences, and I believe it is our differences that makes each and everyone of us unique in HIS eyes, we ARE NOT (despite what satan would have you believe) ugly, repulsive burdens to HIM, men are arrogant, selfish, greedy, presumptuous ,weak, and weak minded creatures, GOD is not, we are all perfect individuals in HIS eyes.

God is not like man who makes mistakes and has afterthoughts leading to a change of mind, or makes decrees that HE later has to annul because HE has not considered all the consequences, or that HE lacks the infinite power to bring to pass that which he has said.

HE is not like man whose mistaken and sinful morality begs retribution. God is light, and in Him is no darkness at all.

(1 John 1:5b). "The LORD is righteous in all HIS ways, and holy in all his works" (Psalms 145:17).

We are here on earth only for a short time, but Heaven lasts forever. I believe each and everyday we are tested, and each and everyday, we all fall short of HIS GLORY!

God doesn't make mistakes, but satan is free, for a little while longer, to spread his lies that we are imperfections and deserve to be changed, or destroyed. JMHO!

Murron  posted on  2012-05-27   8:13:07 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Murron (#14)

You are more interested here in feathering the nest with people like AKA by bouncing off religious dogma at someone who is not going to do more then skim what you are saying because they have no interest in going to church with you rhetorically.

Go ahead and do all the brown nosing you want to. just leave me out of it.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2012-05-27   14:06:38 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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