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Title: Obama team trumpets new polling on gay marriage
Source: AP
URL Source: http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap ... 46fc7c6cfd4cfc90e3f659765e97df
Published: May 23, 2012
Author: JULIE PACE
Post Date: 2012-05-23 17:23:21 by Ferret Mike
Keywords: None
Views: 13341
Comments: 46

WASHINGTON (AP) — President Barack Obama's re-election campaign is beginning to express some confidence that the president's historic, yet politically risky, embrace of gay marriage may not hurt him in the November election.

In a conference call announcing efforts to get gay and lesbian voters engaged in the Obama campaign, officials said poll numbers on same-sex marriage were increasingly tilting in their favor.

"A lot of recent polls show that support for gay marriage across the country is growing," said Clo Ewing, an Obama campaign spokeswoman.

That includes a Washington Post-ABC News poll out Wednesday showing 53 percent of Americans say gay marriage should be a legal, a new high for the poll. Thirty-nine percent, a new low, say gay marriage should be illegal.

A separate poll showed that just 7 percent of registered voters said Obama's public support for gay marriage raised concerns about supporting him. For 31 percent of voters, the president's announcement reinforced their support of him and for 62 percent of voters, it did not make a difference, according to the NBC News-Wall Street Journal poll.

Immediately following Obama's announcement of support for gay marriage, White House and campaign aides readily acknowledged that the political fallout was unclear. Obama himself said it was "very hard to say" whether the issue would hurt him in his fall campaign against presumptive Republican nominee Mitt Romney.

Despite the new national polling, Obama's embrace of gay marriage comes with political risks. Thirty states have voted against gay marriage, including North Caroline, a key battleground state where voters approved a ban on same-sex unions the day before Obama announced his public support in a television interview.

The president's announcement earlier this month ended his lengthy self-described "evolution" on the hot-button social issue. While the White House insisted Obama always planned to make his views on gay marriage known this summer, some aides worried that doing so could hurt him politically with socially conservative voters in swing states, like Virginia and North Carolina.

Other Obama aides see the president's support for same-sex marriage as an opportunity to boost enthusiasm and fundraising among gay supporters and young people. With that in mind, the Obama campaign has sought to turn the president's embrace of gay marriage into an area of contrast with Romney, highlighting the former Massachusetts governor's support for a constitutional amendment banning same-sex unions.

"Romney's position on same-sex marriage is also historic but not in the way it should be," said Joe Solmonese, a co-chair of Obama's campaign. "He has pledged to write discrimination into the constitution."

The Obama campaign also announced a new effort Wednesday to boost voter registration and turnout in the gay and lesbian community through phone banks, house parties and other grassroots outreach efforts.

Follow Julie Pace at http://twitter.com/jpaceDC.

Copyright © 2012 The Associated Press. All rights reserved.

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#1. To: Ferret Mike (#0)

Also breaking at this hour more and more Germans are supporting Jews being rounded up and gassed. Oops that is old news but kind of the same.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-05-23   17:32:18 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: A K A Stone (#1)

Also breaking at this hour more and more Germans are supporting Jews being rounded up and gassed.

Oops that is old news

Not really, some of the Jew haters at LF would probably like to see just that!!

CZ82  posted on  2012-05-23   17:47:21 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: CZ82, A K A Stone (#2) (Edited)

Actually Stone, most Germans were kept in the dark on the extermination phase of the final solution. The rank and file Nazi or German just knew there was blame games, oppression and prosecution going on.

When the Allied forces mad ethe German citizens go to the death camps to see what their hateful policies had wrought, most were sickened and horrified at what they saw.

Blaming Jews as guilty of working for the downfall of civilization was a destructive game the German Nazis played, and it deservedly got them put into the dustbin of history.

Which is something hate mongers going after homosexuality should take note of. Their hatred and desire to destroy their particular group they scapegoat in the same fashion is ultimately going to get them nowhere too.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2012-05-23   18:05:17 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Ferret Mike (#3)

Which is something hate mongers going after homosexuality should take note of. Their hatred and desire to destroy their particular group they scapegoat in the same fashion is ultimately going to get them nowhere too.

Comparing Gays to Jews is like trying to compare a wood shed to a Cadillac, no similarity whatsoever!!!!

Most people would absolutely care less about the gays if they went about their peversion quietly in their own homes.... But since that's not the case (in fact it's the opposite most of the time) most people have grown tired of their contortions, intolerance, exhibitionism and illusory superiority!!!!

Oh by the way if my stepmother (a German Jew who managed to survive for 12 years in Hitlers Germany) was still alive she would disagree with your opinion that most Germans were cluless as to what was going on with the Jews... The only reason she managed to survive the war was because people "knew" and did whatever they could to help her and others just like her.....

CZ82  posted on  2012-05-24   7:14:10 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: CZ82 (#14)

Nobody has to hide for the minor fact about them such as their sexual orientation. There is not a damn thing wrong with homosexuality.

If someone discriminates against someone for being gay, they should be able to take legal action against them for it, be it for job discrimination, the right to marry so they can't be kept out of their loved one's room by intolerant blood relatives of him or her, or to go after an employer for bothering them with something that is very normative human traits to protect their jobs.

In Eugene, Oregon, one cannot discriminate against people for jobs, housing or any harassment in a public place. I helped a friend by testifying for them when they were fired from their job because I heard and saw his rights being violated.

He got his job back and his employer had to pay damages to him. That is how the system should work. I have no sympathy for you because of the disease of hatred and intolerance you suffer from.

You really need to get your head out of your forth point of contact and wake up.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2012-05-24   9:21:16 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Ferret Mike (#16)

There is not a damn thing wrong with homosexuality

There are a whole lot of "Credible" psychiatrists and most of the population that disagree with you!!!

CZ82  posted on  2012-05-24   18:03:59 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: CZ82 (#18)

All the credible, well vetted research says otherwise.

But you are going to always claim otherwise despite the evidence.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2012-05-24   21:39:43 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Ferret Mike (#19)

All the credible, well vetted research says otherwise.

But you are going to always claim otherwise despite the evidence.

You mean all of the evidence the AMA and the APA were sued into accepting even though it is false????

Or are you talking about all of the "evidence" (LOL) that gay psychologists use???? (Why do you think they became psychologists in the first place)?????

You do know that sodomy is still a crime, right!!!!

You know that Pedophilia is a crime, right!!! (perps of almost 50% of all cases reported)....

And it won't be long before knowingly spreading HIV will be a crime!!!! And you know who the #1 perpetrator of that crime is???

So don't tell me about "ignoring evidence" when your willing to ignore it yourself!!!

So who's the one anyway????? Yourself???? Family member???? Friend???? Ex- wife??? You don't have to answer I'm not really expecting one and frankly I could care less, but it explains a lot!!!

CZ82  posted on  2012-05-25   7:20:05 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: CZ82 (#20)

You sound hysterical, Mr !!!!!!!!!!!!!!???????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Which is not surprising as your emotions and not intellect is the thing I see most at play with you. It IS a crime to knowingly spread HIV. People have been charged and convicted of it. And this includes men passing the disease on to women too.

Also pedophilia is not sex with consenting adults, so this means nothing in this discussion.

Also, many men and their women partners have sodomy, and there is nothing evil about the practice. And laws passed for reasons of irrational hatred of others like you suffer from often begets bad policy and law. and this is that sort of law .

And far from 'ignoring' evidence, I have bothered to read research papers available at the AMA site, and all well done, impartial research supports my point of view, not yours.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2012-05-25   9:01:33 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Ferret Mike (#21)

And far from 'ignoring' evidence, I have bothered to read research papers available at the AMA site, and all well done, impartial research supports my point of view, not yours.

But you forgot how they came by that (cough cough) so called scientific "evidence".. Lawsuits!!!!

And I've read the papers too and they all fall into 3 categories......

1). Those who love the gays lifestyle..... (and are probably gay themselves)..

2). Those who hate the gays lifestyle..... (a skinhead or Hitler Jr)...

3). And the truth...

Try reading some in category 3 you might be amazed!!!!

CZ82  posted on  2012-05-25   14:57:13 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: CZ82 (#26)

3). And the truth...

Try reading some in category 3 you might be amazed!!!!

You're kidding, right?

He just said yesterday that he doesn't have the strength to do academic research... I guess it's just too hard to find the truth for him...

So he'll just post his personal opinions (based on nothing), in between his rounds of sweeping and toilet-plunging at whatever building he's janitor at...

And dammit, you're supposed to be impressed with his articulation, and ignore the fact that he knows... nothing.

LOL.

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2012-05-25   15:06:14 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: Capitalist Eric (#28) (Edited)

"He just said yesterday that he doesn't have the strength to do academic research... I guess it's just too hard to find the truth for him... "

Whe bait about my alleged job is just par for the course for you, but 'strength' has noting to do with why people do or don't go for a doctorate.

When I was going to the University of Oregon, I was working at a 7 Eleven by campus because though Ihad the old GI Bill, I needed an income. I had the strength to deal with that nasty job and school at the same time.

And when I flunked the Advanced International Morse Code portion of the 18E course (AIMC) at the SFQC, I refused offers to reassign me to the weapons or engineer MOS from my first choice of communications (18E).

I went to phase one as 18 series MOS unassigned, and spent one more stinking month getting my send and receive speed in doing 120 five character code groups in sixteen line format up to the standard.

Being a helicopter CE was not kind to my hearing, and it took everything I had to pass the standard to clear AIMC and then meet the higher standard for speed in phase two of the SFQC.

When I graduated from the UO, I didn't like working indoors, and got work in the woods and I did that for quite a long time and loved it. And that is work you need mental and physical endurance to be successful at it.

I am working in an office in Eugene right now for an advocacy group dealing with forest issues, and got to work some with Oregon Woods doing planting inspecting and timber cruising this last winter. And I enjoyed that a great deal like I always do.

Most of your deal is you just can't get along with others that disagree with you, and you have a ego the size of a pregnant blue whale.

I hope you do well on your doctoral dissertation, and I hope you gain enough maturity someday to get over yourself, but I started using my real name and talking honestly about what I do and have done because I am well known enough locally from doing activism and being involved in my community, I'm used to this sort of lack of privacy.

You are always welcome to vett my gig by sending away to the Register Guard in Eugene for all the articles about me or quoting me. Because I have nothing to hide.

I also am no one people mess with, and anyone coming into my community looking to manifest ill will will always find that a bad idea. And I am stoic anyway.

I don't stay awake nights fretting the fact I am going to die someday like every other mortal on Earth.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2012-05-25   17:39:32 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: Ferret Mike, A K A Stone, Murron, Liberator, Mad Dog, jwpegler, hondo68, sneakypete, Happy Quanzaa, Get Outta Dodge!, CZ82, jwpegler, Rudgear (#30)

Whe bait about my...

You are- by definition- a "poseur."

Now go back, and scrub some toilets, boy!

*Ping to the rest, for your amusement. As usual, rat-boy attempts to build himself up to be more than what he is (janitor), so that he'll be seen as an intellectual (janitor) who's so gravely concerned about 'da trees' that he hugs them when he can't get real lovin' from a woman (probably 'cause he's a janitor).

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2012-05-25   18:09:41 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: Capitalist Eric (#31)

You are- by definition- a "poseur."

No,he's not. He's one of the most honest people on the internet,and it is almost ridiculously easy to verify everything he says.

sneakypete  posted on  2012-05-25   18:49:38 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: sneakypete (#36)

You're easily impressed by BS artists.

Pity.

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2012-05-25   21:14:17 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: Capitalist Eric (#37)

You're easily impressed by BS artists.

Pity.

lol! I've been reading his posts for years,and remember when he ran for public office and was in the news for other reasons.

He IS who and what he says he is.

sneakypete  posted on  2012-05-26   10:19:55 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#45. To: sneakypete (#42)

He IS who and what he says he is.

Yeah.

A JANITOR.

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2012-05-29 14:25:43 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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