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Title: Rapture Believers Headed for the Great FALLING AWAY, NOT the Great Flying Away, The TRUE IDENTITY of the Antichrist Direct From Revelation 13
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Published: May 23, 2012
Author: Coral Snake - Bible Verses from the King
Post Date: 2012-05-23 00:59:06 by Coral Snake
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Rapture Believers Headed for the Great FALLING AWAY, NOT the Great Flying Away, The TRUE IDENTITY of the Antichrist Direct From Revelation 13

By Coral Snake

Of all the cults in the world probably the WORST of them holds in its thrall most most churches calling themselves Bible Believing, largely because they do not offer Bible study in an depth chapter by chapter and verse by verse method. This is the cult of the Rapture regardless of the part of the Great Tribulation Period they might believe that it comes in.

The Rapture as a doctrine basically started in the 1830s in response to the "visions" of a mentally ill woman by the name of Mergret McDonald in Scotland. These visions caught the attention of a minister by the name of John Nelson Darby who spread the doctrine through a denomination of his own called the Catholic Apistolic Church because he attached it to Jesuit Writings relating to a future Antichrist as a flesh man. The Rapture doctrine was spread in America to virtually every church claiming to believe the King James Bible through a version of it called the Schofield Reference Bible basically put out by the Kenites (more on Kenites in later studies in this series) using me Schofield as a front. (As we will see further on in this article the Antichrist is in the future but he will NOT be a flesh man as claimed by Rapture pushers. Indeed the New World Order will rule the majority of the Tribulation Period WITHOUT their Antichrist leader who will put in his appearance in THE LAST FIVE MONTHS of the period.

The rest of this article will be in the form of a chapter and verse Bible study that will show the reader:

1. Why the belief in the Rapture will lead the majority of Bible Believers who do not read and study what they claim to believe TO THE ANTICHRIST in these End Times.

2. The TRUE IDENTITY of the Antichrist.

3. Why he will rule only the LAST FIVE MONTHS of the Great Tribulation Period and not the whole of it as the Pre Trib Rapturists teach or in one half of it as the Mid and Post Tribbers teach.

The Bible study part of this article will be the most familiar of all chapters in the Bible concerning the Antichrist, Revelation 13. Virtually all people who authored pro Raptrue "prophesy books" include parts of this chapter above all others in the Bible but basically gloss over it missing the meat of it entirely for this chapter IDENTIFIES FULLY AND COMPLETELY the identity of the Antichrist beyond any shadow of a doubt.

Revelation 13:1 And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon the horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy.

Rapture pushers promote the idea that this beast is the Antichrist. IT IS NOT. Rather it is the political, religious, economic and educvational system commonly refered to as the New World Order.

Revelation 13:2 And the beast I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of a bear. and his mouth as the mouth of a lion: and the dragon have him his power, and his seat, and great authority.

As we will see later when we study the book of Daniel this beast is a conglomerate of the four beasts in the Prophet Daniel's prophetic dream concerning the various "New World Order" empires that would rule the world between that dream and the Second Coming of Yashhua Messiah (Jesus Christ in English). We also see that the DEVIL (the Dragon) gave these "New World Orders" their power and authority.

Revelation 13:3 And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast.

This indicates that no matter how the conspirators behind the "New World Order" may try they will not be able to build a full powered one world government on their own. This is the "fatal wound" in the one world system of government that will be healed in only one way, the Personal appearamce of Antichrist. The inability to get "gun control" passed in the United States is one of many current examples of this deadly wound in flesh man made One Worldism.

Revelation 13:4 And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? Who is able to make war with him?

The Antichrist has created a complete One World System at this point but HAS NOT YET BEEN REVEALED to the physical world. There is a little hint of his identity here for those who have the eyes to see and ears to hear to pick it up. I will not be revealing it at this time. If you have eyes to see and ears to hear it is YOUR responsibility to find it at this point.

Revelation 13:5 And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies, and power was given unto him to continue fourty and two months.

This fourty two months represents the total rule of the New Wolrd Order both with and without the Antichrist.

Revelation 13:6 And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God to blaspheme his name and tabernacle, and them that dwell in heaven.

This still refers to the new world order WITHOUT the actual presense of the Antichrist as do all Revelation verses refering to the first beast that appears. The first beast is the POLITICAL SYSTEM that the Kenites (more on this in a later study) create for the Antichrist to eventually rule over.

Revelation 13:7 And it was given unto him to make war with the saints and overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues and nations.

One should see by this verse that the Rapture doctrine is a FRAUD. The saints is ALWAYS a plural term for the BODY OF CHRIST / THE CHURCH in the Bible. It clearly shows that the saints are ON THE EARTH during the rule of the New World Order including the part of it ruled over by the Antichrist.

Revelation 13:8 And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.

Now you may start thinking that this first beast was the Antichrist after all since the population is worshipping it. However worshipping a POLITICAL SYSTEM in place of a diety is quite common amongst people in the collectvist or as we usually say today the Leftist or "Progressive" branch of politics who make the STATE their idol. This verse should be considered as a final condemnation of STATE WORSHIP before the actual appearance to the Antichrist to personify that One World State being worshipped.

Revelation 13:9 If any man hath an ear, let him hear.

This means pay strict attention now. The deadly wound in the first beast has actually occured and the ANTICHRIST is about to be revealed fully and completely for ALL to see who he is.

Revelation 13:10 He that leadeth into captivity shall go into captivity: he that killeth with the sword must be killed with the sword. Here is the patience of the saints.

The deadly wound has occured. The new world order that has persecuted the saints (the Church)and the formerly free nations in the world with USURY, EXCESSIVE TAXATION, FALSE TEACHING, FALSE IMPRISONMENT, VIOLATION OF RIGHTS and RIDICULE and God with BLASPHEMY and REJECTION appears to meet its comeuppance here but as Revelation 13: 3 has alreqady shown this deadly wound will be HEALED, the appearance of the Antichrist in the LAST five of the forty two month New Wolrd Order will in fact be that healing.

Revelation 13:11 And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon.

This is the verse we were all waiting for. The Antichrist has now been revealed PUBLICALLY and his Identy should be clear for all to see as SATAN THE DEVIL (the Dragon or Serpent) pretending to be JESUS / YASHUAH (the Lamb). This is why most people believing in the Rapture doctrine will be a part of a great FALLING away rather than the great FLYING away they will expect. The Rapture doctrine believers believe that Jesus will come to fly them away before ANY direct Satanic manefistations on earth that are tied to the Antichrist identity. They therefore will follow after THE FIRST supernatural spirit being to put in an appearance on earth and that this being is not Jesus but this second beast of Revelation SATAN THE DEVIL HIMSELF as an INSTEAD OF (the meaning of Anti in the term Antichrist) Christ.

Revelation 13:12 And he excersisethall of the power of the first beast before him and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast whose deadly wound was healed.

In this verse the Antichrist, SATAN THE DEVIL HIMSELF will promote worship of the new world order which he now personifies as a condition of being chosen to "fly away" with him. Most biblically illiterate Christians who actually faught the New World Order up until this time will now fall for it and EMBRACE it because they see it being ruled by "Jesus Christ" rather than the former satanic forces (The Kenites) that created it. This is because of the "fly away" rapture doctrine that teaches that the Antichrist is a human dictator possessed by Satan much like a Hitler or a Stalin who will be revealed AFTER they "fly away" and not a supernatural spiritual being SATAN HIMSELF as this chapter of Revelation really teaches.

Revelation 13:13 And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men.

No flesh and blood human, even possessed by the devil himself can do such things as this. This is another verse identifying the antichrist, the second beast of Revelation as SATAN THE DEVIL HIMSELF as only a SUPERNATURAL SPIRIT BEING is capable of performing supernatural wonders.

Revelation 13:14 And he decieveth them that dwell on the earth by means of those miracles which he hath the power to to in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth that should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by the sword and did live.

Yet for the third time we are given the identity of the Antichrist beyond any shadow of a doubt as a supernatural being capable of perforning supernatural miracles, SATAN THE DEVIL HIMSELF. This is so emphisized in this chapter because it is THE MOST IMPORTANT THING a Christian reader is to learn from it. The image or idol mentioned in this verse even though it will be TO the first beast, (the new world order political / religious / economic / educational system) will probably be OF the Second Beast (Satan the Devil / The Antichrist) who now personifies the system represented by the first beast.

Revelation 13:15 And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.

Most people think that this means that some kind of horrible Hitler or Stalin like genocide of flesh and blood Christians is going to occur at this time. Once again they are in IGNORANCE of what is actually being taught in this chapter. The Antichrist is not coming as a Hitler or a Stalin, he is coming as a FAKE JESUS CHRIST playing the roll of Jesus as taught in the "fly away" rapture doctrine. This verse only shows that one of the powers that he will claim for this purpose is the power to damn people who don't worship him to HELL, the second, eternal and final death of Revelation 19 and 20. This hellfire doctrine is used by Satan the Devil THE ONLY ONE SENTENCED TO GO THERE AS OF THIS TIME to get the remaining true Christians on the earth at this time who will NOT fall for the "fly away" rapture doctrine to worship him. Another thing we must take from this verse along with Revelation 19 and 20 is that Hell is NOT the place of eternal burning torture that most fundamentalists preach. It is simply the final and eternal "boot hill" or cemetary of the most icorragabley wicked anongst us that die the second and eternal death with their boots of rebellion on. Those who do NOT worship the beast will not die however. They will simply be delivered up to the false Elder Councils of the One World State/Church that the DEVIL as the Antichrist sets up to be FALSELY sentenced to hell unless they worship the DEVIL in his false Christ roll. Instead of worshipping them they will again speak the Tounge of Pentecost day which is not the Pentecostal gobbledy gook called "speaking in tongues" now but the True Tongue of Pentecost Day which every person will understand in their own language. This was the tongue of Acts Chapter 2 and probably the tongue we had before the confusion of languages at the Tower of Babel. These elect persons who will not bow the knee to Baal in his false Christ roll will actually have the Holy Spirit speaking through them in this tongue just as happened in acts chapter 2 and will not be speaking or even be premeditating what they will say but will wait on the Holy Spirit to give them the words just as happened in Acts Chapter 2. This event actually moves many people away from the Antichrist and begins the end of his reign.

Revelation 13:16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in the right hand or in their foreheads:

This and the verse that follows are in all probability the most well known verses in the book of Revelation. Many FALSE prophesy teachers have made big bucks out of presenting this mark as some kind of real mark such as a tattoo or a mark left by the injection of some kind of "mark of the beast" microchip in their right hands or foreheads. The true meaning of this lies in simply understanding wnat is IN your forehead. It happens to be this gray semi solid thingy known as YOUR BRAIN. To have the "mark of the beast" is to have WORSHIP OF SATAN AS INSTEAD OF (Anti's real meaning) CHRIST IMPLANTED IN YOUR BRAIN through false doctrines like the "fly awaqy" rapture doctrine or the eternal torture hellfire doctrine. To have the "mark of the beast" in the right hand (which is the power hand) means to do the WORKS of Satan in promoting false doctrines that lead to Satan worship when he comes as Antichrist such as tithing to or promoting the money making social events of a church that teaches such doctrines.

Revelation 13:17 And that no man might buy or sell save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.

The meaning of this verse is that Satan is going to abandon the current Debt / Usury system set up by his Kenites and set up a system that will appear to be more fair. Many FALSE prophesy teachers that this will probably be based on credits tied to in implanted microchip in the body located at the locations mentioned for the "mark of the beast" (right hand or power hand and forehead). Many say that this will be based on gold but there is not enough gold in existance in this Earth Age for even Satan the Devil to provide enough of it for a monetary system. Rather I think Satan will base his new money on a perversion of the Social Credit system which will reward people world state dividends in return for their worship and it will probably be cash money (paper or plastic notes and base metallic coins) just like today's national currencies. However this money system will be the end times part of the "mark of the beast" in the hand. It will be doing and promoting SATAN'S WORKS in the end times. This is why people will not be able to buy or sell unless the have the mark in the hand. not because they did not receive a microship injection or a tatoo. SATAN'S MONEY NO MATTER WHAT FORM IT TAKES EVEN IF IT STAYS IN TRADITIONAL CASH FOR IS THE MARK IN THE HAND OF THE END TIMES!!!

Revelation 13:18 Here is Wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is six hundred threescore and six.

This is the final verse of the chapter. The most important word here is COUNT. the deeper meaning of this word is to count with counting stones that have been worn round with age and actually indicates that this mark or number has existed since the beginning of of our current Earth Age (the second) and is not simply a new mark that arrives with the Antichrist. In future studies we will be "counting" the Number of the Beast with the counting stones to see the man the Number of the Beast is actually the number of. But I will tell you right here that this counting will lead ultimately to CAIN, the first murderer of the Cain and Able account in Genesis and the father of the Kenite peoples behind the "New World Order".

I pray to the Father Yahovah in the name of his son Yashuah Massiah (known in English as Jesus Christ) that you have enjoyed the first in my series of in depth Bible studies. Our next study will be on the Parable of the Fig Tree and the Parable of the Sower that Yashuah taught during his earthly ministry. These two parables are very important "counting stones" for the last verse of Revelation 13 and Yashuah particularly emphisized the importance of one of them when he told us in no uncertain terms LEARN THE PARABLE OF THE FIG TREE. Until the next time Amen.

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#2. To: Coral Snake (#0)

Of all the cults in the world probably the WORST of them holds in its thrall most most churches calling themselves Bible Believing, largely because they do not offer Bible study in an depth chapter by chapter and verse by verse method.

Coral Snake let me be blunt honest. Going verse by verse didn't do you any good. You deny hell.

Revelation 22:19

And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.

Snake I hate to say it but that is describing you my friend. Wise up and quit ripping things out of the Bible. It is important. Go back and redouble your efforts on this subject. I is eternally important.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-05-23   6:08:05 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: A K A Stone, Coral Snake (#2)

Wise up and quit ripping things out of the Bible. It is important

You deny hell.

What did CS rip out of the Bible, he's not like Darby and the rapture monkeys who rip it to shreds and try to rearrange the pieces?

IMO, he's not denying hell, but the fake hell of the antichrist. He's off to a good start by condemning the heretic Darby.

Hondo68  posted on  2012-05-23   9:54:07 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: hondo68 (#17)

What did CS rip out of the Bible, he's not like Darby and the rapture monkeys who rip it to shreds and try to rearrange the pieces?

IMO, he's not denying hell, but the fake hell of the antichrist. He's off to a good start by condemning the heretic Darby.

Explain how Darby was a heretic?

redleghunter  posted on  2012-05-24   14:39:51 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: redleghunter (#35)

Explain how Darby was a heretic?

By Ellis Skolfield

A widely held end-time view is that a seven-year time of
trouble will take place at the end of this age. Few know the
origin of the doctrine and the Great Tribulation (as it is called)
is generally accepted as an established fact. But just having an
explanation for a few puzzling Bible verses doesn't mean the
explanation is true.

As popular as the Seven-Year Tribulation view might be, it
might also be wrong because there is no direct scriptural
support for it. Oh, there are verses we interpret as a sevenyear-
tribulation, but not one verse in the Bible says we are
going to have such a time at the end of the age. Few question
the origin of the view, but it had a most dubious beginning . .
. and here's the story.

From the early Church fathers until the Reformation, the
generally accepted view of Bible prophecy was "linear historic,"
that Revelation was in the process of being fulfilled
throughout the Christian Era. But in the 16th century, a new
view of Bible prophecy was devised by a Jesuit priest to stop
the Reformers from teaching that the Catholic Church was
probably the "whore of Babylon" of Revelation 17:3-6.

In 1591AD, the Jesuit Ribera invented a "futurist" view. He
claimed that Revelation would not be fulfilled until the end of
the Christian Era. Ribera taught a rebuilt Babylon, a rebuilt
temple in Jerusalem and an end-time Antichrist, etc., etc.
Sound familiar? It should, Ribera is the father of the prophetic
views taught by many major denominations today.
But Ribera is only part of the story. In 1731, there was a
Spanish family living in Chili named the de Lacunzas, who had
a boy named Manuel. After fifteen years at home, young

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Manuel decided to become a Catholic priest so he boarded a
ship to Spain. Thirty-six years later (when the Jesuits were
expelled from that country because of their brutality) the now
"Father" Manuel de Lacunza y Diaz had to move to Imola, Italy,
where he remained for the rest of his life.

In Imola, de Lacunza claimed to be a converted Jew named
Rabbi Juan Jushafat Ben-Ezra. Under that alias, he wrote a 900
page book titled The Coming of Messiah in Glory and Majesty. In
it, Lacunza theorized that the Church would be taken to be
with the Lord some 45 days before Jesus' final return to Earth.
During that 45 days (while the Church was in heaven), God
was supposedly going to pour out His wrath upon the wicked
remaining on Earth.1 Believe it or not, a Chilean Jesuit, a.k.a.
a Jewish Rabbi, theorized the earliest mini-trib, pre-trib-rapture
view on record!2 But to continue on . . .

De Lacunza died in Imola in 1801 and that should have been
the end of it. But after his death, Lacunza's views were taught
in Spain. In 1812 his book was published in Spanish. Fourteen
years later, it was translated into English by a radical cultist
named Edward Irving. Lacunza's views could have died there,
too, for most in England saw Irving as a heretic.
 
But now the plot thickens. About the same time, an Irvingite
evangelist named Robert Norton met a little Scottish girl
named Margaret Macdonald who supposedly had a vision of
the church being secretly raptured. Norton was so charmed by
the idea that he preached her "vision" all over England.
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Footnotes
1 De Lacunza derived his view from a premature interpretation of the 1290 and the 1335
days of Dan 12:11-12. We now know his view to be faulty because we now have the true
fulfillment of those prophecies in the new nation of Israel and can prove with certainty
what those "days" really mean. You can read the details in Skolfield's book The False
Prophet, also downloadable from this site.
2 Though not so well known, an 18th century American pastor, Morgan Edwards,
may have published a pre-trib rapture paper slightly earlier than de Lacunza. But
when one looks at the tremendous impact the Scofield Bible had on the western
church, it appears that Ribera-Lacunza-Macdonald-Darby-Scofield is the route
through which this view gained wide acceptance. A copy of Irving's translation of
Lacunza's work is archived in Oxford University Library, Oxford, England. (John
Brey, The Origin of the Pre-Tribulation Rapture Teaching, pp1-12)
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3

John Darby, founder of the Plymouth Brethren, became
interested in this new doctrine so he attended several Irvingite
meetings. In his letters Darby states that he had "come to an
understanding of this new truth" and made no secret of the fact
that he had been influenced by de Lacunza's writings.

Darby, however, wasn't satisfied with the rather simplistic
Lacunza-Irving 45-day tribulation idea, so he devised a more
complex scheme. Darby thought the last week of Daniel's 70
weeks (Dan 9:24-27) was still unfulfilled so he theorized that
the 70th week might actually be a future seven-year-tribulation
that would take place at the end of the Christian Era. To make
his idea fit world history, he also invented a 2000 year gap
between Daniel's 69th and 70th weeks. It was all guesswork
theology, but there you have it, the true origin of the seven-year
tribulation and pre-trib rapture doctrines!  Upon that
dubious foundation, Darby and his associates then added a few
of Jesuit Ribera's wrinkles:

1. That a Jewish temple would be rebuilt and animal
sacrifices reestablished.
2. That Antichrist would appear and rule the world for
seven years.
3. That after 3½ years of good rule, this supposed
Antichrist would turn against the Jews, stop the sacrifices,
and start the battle of Armageddon.

Whew, it went on and on in a dizzying profusion of unsupportable
conjectures, all based upon Darby's imaginary 2000
year gap theory and the seven-year-tribulation he conjured up
from Daniel's 70th week.

If Darby hadn't visited the United States, his seven-year idea
could have died right then, too. After all, there weren't many
Darbyites around. But while visiting the United States, Darby
met C. I. Scofield.

C. I. was so taken by the Ribera-Lacunza-Macdonald-Darby
ideas that he decided to include them in the annotated Bible he
was working on. Sound Bible scholars of the day like A. J.
Gordon, Charles R. Erdman and W.G. Moorhead tried to
dissuade him. Three members of Scofield's revision committee
even resigned because of his unswerving support for the view,

4

but their voices were not heard. The seven-year-tribulation
doctrine remained . . . and that's how a Jesuit's imaginative
creation - which grew like a poisonous mushroom - was
incorporated into the now-famous notes of the Scofield
Reference Bible.3

Since the Protestant Church held the Jesuits and Irvingites
to be heretical, everyone involved tried to hide the origin of the
doctrine and by almost unbelievable deception claimed to be
the originators of the creed themselves. They were generally
successful, for most pastors and theologians believe John Darby
and C. I. Scofield to be the fathers of what is known today as
Dispensational Eschatology.

In the following decades, the Scofield Bible became the most
widely read Bible in the English language so that annotated
Bible is the primary vehicle by which the seven-year-tribulation
view was spread throughout American churches. Scathing
reviews have been written against Scofield's views by various
respected scholars, but others presume Scofield's notes to be all
but inspired. Even today, some folks think a commentator's
notes below the line are as valid as the text above it.4

Dr. Ironside of Moody Bible Institute fully supported Darby-
Scofield, but later in life admitted that it was "full of holes."
Dallas Theological Seminary, Biola University and other centers
of dispensational thinking also support Darby's views. There
have been a host of rebuttals by conservative theologians, but
few have bothered to refute the Ribera-Lacunza-Mcdonald-
Darby-Scofield view in a language that the everyday saint can
understand.
__________________________

Footnotes
3 Albertus Pieters wrote, "From start to finish it [the Scofield Bible] is a partisan
book, definitely, both openly and under cover, an instrument of propaganda in
favor of an exceedingly doubtful eschatology . . . [u]If Darby and his school are
right, the entire Christian church, for eighteen-hundred years, was wrong[/u] on a
vital part of the Christian faith" Candid Examination of the Scofield Bible, Albertus
Pieters, (Union City, PA, Bible Truth Depot, 1932) pp25, 27.
4 Dr. T. T. Shields humorously commented: "From a position of entire ignorance
of the Scripture to a position of oracular religious certainty -- especially in
eschatological matters -- for some people requires but from three to six months
with a Scofield Bible" The Gospel Witness (Toronto Canada, April 7th, 1932).
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5

It is almost impossible to believe that major end-time
doctrines of the Protestant church began in the minds of a
couple of Jesuit priests, one of which wrote under an assumed
name . . . and even more unbelievable, that those views were
amplified by the supposed vision of a fifteen year old girl who
had only been a Christian for a year, dabbled in the occult and
had a documented levitation.5 But the historic record of the
origin of Dispensational Eschatology is unassailable.6

Many seminary students have tried to reconcile the plain
assertions of Scripture with the dispensational position, but to
no avail. Eventually, the future pastors just accept Ribera-
Lacunza-Macdonald-Darby-Scofield and after being ordained
go forth and happily teach this false doctrine to their flocks.
Rarely do they question the quivering foundation upon which
they are trying to build: the questionable opinions of the Jesuits
who started it all.7

Many evangelical churches still champion the seven-year
view, but it is so counter to the plain statements of the Bible
itself - particularly the last trumpet - that one wonders how it
has managed to command so many ardent supporters . . .
2Ti 4:3-4 For the time will come when they will not endure
sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to
themselves teachers, having itching ears; And they shall turn
away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.
_____________________________
Footnotes
5 Levitation is recognized by most churches as a sign of demonic activity.
6 The Church is indebted to Dave MacPherson, The Rapture Plot, (Simpsonville,
SC, Millennium III Publishers) for 23 years of researching source documents to
uncover the true origin of present-day dispensational eschatology.
7 Dr. Harry Ironside of Moody Bible Institute, himself an ardent supporter of the
Ribera-Lacunza-Macdonald-Darby-Scofield eschatological scheme, admitted in his
Mysteries of God, p.50: ". . . until brought to the fore through the writings of . . .
Mr. J. N. Darby, the doctrine taught by Dr. Scofield [i.e., the Seven-Year Tribulation
theory] is scarcely to be found in a single book throughout a period of 1600 years.
If any doubt this statement, let them search, as the writer has in measure done,
the remarks of the so-called Fathers, both pre- and post-Nicene, the theological
treatises of the scholastic divines . . . the literature of the reformation . . . the
Puritans. He will find the 'mystery' conspicuous by its absence."
Yes indeed, that so-called "mystery is absent," because the Bible doesn't teach
it!
________________________________

6

We are very near the end of all things. The Jews are home
in Israel now, just as the Lord predicted they would be in
countless Scriptures. Because of the many prophecies that have
been fulfilled in the last sixty years, we can now state
conclusively that all Scriptures used to formulate the sevenyear-
tribulation view, including Daniel's 70th week, have been
fulfilled. The Ribera-Lacunza-Irving-Macdonald-Darby-Scofield
dispensational end-time scheme just isn't true. And since it isn't,
maybe we should look at Daniel's prophecies again to see if we
can find out what they are really all about.8

You can download an explanation of Daniel's 70th Week from
this site, but to get the complete picture, you should also
download Skolfield's latest book on Bible prophecy, The False
Prophet.

God is truth, so how well a person serves the Lord is not
based on how good he is at defending his doctrine, but on
how willing he is to seek out and follow the truth.
______________________________

Footnotes
8 The futurist view, contrived by the Jesuit priest Ribera in 1591AD, was the
foundation for Lacunza's "tribulation" musings. Ribera theorized a future
antichrist, a rebuilt Babylon and a Jewish temple in Jerusalem at the end of this
age. The Praeterist view, conceived by the Jesuit priest Alcazar in 1614AD,
claimed just the opposite - that the book of Revelation was fulfilled by the fall of
Jerusalem in 70AD. Both views were in opposition to the linear historic view that
until then had been the generally accepted position of the true church.  Those two
innovative Jesuit positions succeeded in excluding fifteen centuries of unsavory
Roman Church history from the scrutiny the Bible prophecies that showed the
Roman Church hierarchy to be at least one face of Rev 17's "whore of Babylon."
For documentation, read Michael de Semlyen, All Roads Lead To Rome? (Gerrards
Cross, Bucks, UK, Dorchester House Publications, 1991) p. 202.

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Hondo68  posted on  2012-05-24   15:38:35 ET  (1 image) Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#42. To: hondo68 (#41)

De Lacunza died in Imola in 1801 and that should have been the end of it. But after his death, Lacunza's views were taught in Spain. In 1812 his book was published in Spanish. Fourteen years later, it was translated into English by a radical cultist named Edward Irving. Lacunza's views could have died there, too, for most in England saw Irving as a heretic.

But now the plot thickens. About the same time, an Irvingite evangelist named Robert Norton met a little Scottish girl named Margaret Macdonald who supposedly had a vision of the church being secretly raptured. Norton was so charmed by the idea that he preached her "vision" all over England.

John Darby, founder of the Plymouth Brethren, became interested in this new doctrine so he attended several Irvingite meetings. In his letters Darby states that he had "come to an understanding of this new truth" and made no secret of the fact that he had been influenced by de Lacunza's writings.

Darby, however, wasn't satisfied with the rather simplistic Lacunza-Irving 45-day tribulation idea, so he devised a more complex scheme. Darby thought the last week of Daniel's 70 weeks (Dan 9:24-27) was still unfulfilled so he theorized that the 70th week might actually be a future seven-year-tribulation that would take place at the end of the Christian Era. To make his idea fit world history, he also invented a 2000 year gap between Daniel's 69th and 70th weeks. It was all guesswork theology, but there you have it, the true origin of the seven-year tribulation and pre-trib rapture doctrines!

Nice hit piece hondo, but full of holes. Darby never attended anything called "Irvingite meetings." Ellis Skolfield should have noted that the "meeting in question" was the one of the conferences on biblical prophecy at Powerscourt House (the home of Lady Powerscourt) and various other localities in County Wicklow from 1830 to 1840. MANY denominations sent representatives to this conference and succeeding conferences.

So, I guess (since you have not stated), you adhere to linear historic view that Revelation is in the process of being fulfilled throughout the Christian Era? If so, show me how, since some or most or all has been fulfilled according to Ellis Skofield's statement. Or did you just pick Ellis Skofield because it was a hit piece on Darby easily accessed on the internet? Because if you do believe Skofield, then you know he peddles his own eschatology theory of a Muslim false prophet.

Now after all that, I have to say Ellis Skofield never read the source material of Darby or any dispensationalist. Why? Because he mentions Darby touting a 2000 year "gap" between week 6 and 7 of Daniel chapter 9. Nowhere in Darby's writings does he make a 2000 year gap. No dispensationalist has EVER put a timeline on the Second Coming of Christ.

redleghunter  posted on  2012-05-24 16:16:06 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: hondo68 (#41)

If you attend a futurist Church simply ask your pastor, or the guy in charge of doctrine: "How many Churches held futurist doctrine prior to the Darby's Plymouth Bretheren"

I asked this of pastors for months. Not a single one can cite a single church that held futurist doctrine prior to a portion of the Plymouth Bretheren, and then not until the late 1800s and on into the 20th century protestant church, thanks to C.I. Scofield.

The above is from Ellis Skolfield's website. A very dangerous proposition I dare say. One could say "before Luther or Calvin how many churches' doctrine held that salvation is by Grace through faith..."

redleghunter  posted on  2012-05-24 16:22:52 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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