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Title: Drone Program Aims To 'Accelerate' Use Of Unmanned Aircraft By Police
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URL Source: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/ ... aircraft-police_n_1537074.html
Published: May 22, 2012
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Post Date: 2012-05-22 20:51:16 by sneakypete
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WASHINGTON -- The Department of Homeland Security has launched a program to "facilitate and accelerate the adoption" of small, unmanned drones by police and other public safety agencies, an effort that an agency official admitted faces "a very big hurdle having to do with privacy." The $4 million Air-based Technologies Program, which will test and evaluate small, unmanned aircraft systems, is designed to be a "middleman" between drone manufacturers and first-responder agencies "before they jump into the pool," said John Appleby, a manager in the DHS Science and Technology Directorate's division of borders and maritime security. Appleby provided program details to a friendly audience at the Counter Terror Expo here last week. Just days before, the Federal Aviation Administration had issued new rules to streamline licensing for government agencies seeking to operate lightweight drones. The DHS program "is meant to aid the user community in making informed decisions" about buying drones, said a DHS spokeswoman. She said the department can help law enforcement agencies "better understand what this technology can contribute in areas such as real-time law enforcement operational support; special event response; crime scene situational awareness; border security; fire/wildfire detection; and disaster evaluation and initial response." Appleby said he hopes to invite vendors to participate in field tests of sensors and other drone capabilities at a military base somewhere in the Southwest this summer. Later this year, the FAA plans separate tests that will focus on how to safely and efficiently integrate unmanned aircraft into the same airspace with piloted airplanes. It may be a few years before these automated eyes fill the sky, but privacy advocates, lawmakers and civil liberties groups are already worried about potential abuses. Poster Comment: Nothing to see here,move on. It's just our government protecting us from those wascally Muslims by peeking into our back yards and tapping our phone lines. And if they have to start tracking each of us in the near future by tracking our cell phones or even implants under the skin,well,that's a small price to pay to maintain our freedoms,right? It's a good thing the funide Muslims exist,or our government would have to invent them. And we all know how messy something like that can be (Waco,Texas,OKC bombing,KKK/FBI church bombings,etc,etc,etc).
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#1. To: sneakypete, *Jack-Booted Thugs* (#0)
No telling what sort of hazardous conditions they might spot, radical terrorist "feral" hogs, Edison incandescent bulbs, expired license plates on an old truck, kids reading radical right wing stuff like the US constitution. Maybe even bombs, couple of old soda pop bottles and a can of gas... Molotov cocktails! Unauthorized home improvements without permits, fees, and inspections, it goes on and on... Weeds that might be maryjane... send in the paraquat drones! We're all guilty of something, but Obama'a letting us slide because he's such a cool dude. /s
Obama's watch stopped on 24 May 2008, but he's been too busy smoking crack to notice.
Oh,yeah. With practically everything being either illegal or suspicious,it's almost impossible to NOT be guilty of something. A perfect example is the county is after me now for having unlicensed cars in my yard,and threatening to sell my house at auction to pay the 100 a day fine since somebody complained and sent them photographs of the cars. This despite the fact I have been doing this here since 1980,all the cars are antiques that are exempt by state law from having to have inspection stickers (which require license plates),and I don't have any neighbors within a mile. The facts that I am grandfathered and county ordinances are contrary to state law seems to not be a consideration by them. A "neighbor" complained. The "neighbor" owns a plot of land across the street that is wetlands and nobody will ever be able to build a house on,plus the "neighbor" lives about 500 miles away and I have never even seen them. Not to mention I have been through this very same thing twice in the last 25 years,the last time being about 7 years ago. Both times before the county had to agree I was not in violation,but the new people up there figure they need to prove "there is a new sheriff in town" to the thousands of yankees who have moved into the county in the last 7 years. They obviously have more votes than I do. I feel like SUCH a criminal for preserving American automotive history. All of these cars and trucks except for two are from the 30;s,40's,and early 50's. Two are 1972 pickups I have for parts.
"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011 Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter.
Sorry to hear about your situation, petey. I hope it doesn't cost you an arm and a leg to win for a third time. Best of luck! What a wonderful 'neighbor' you have. /sarc
It's either not going to cost me a dime,or it is going to cost me everything. I'm not paying any fines and I'm not getting rid of any PRIVATE PROPERTY that I don't WANT to get rid of. This is so wrong on so many levels I just can't let it pass. The ironic part is that due to age and health reasons I have been getting rid of them on my own. The last one left out of here last Saturday,heading for Darlington,SC. I have probably got rid of 10 or 12 cars and trucks in the last 2 months,all due to ME needing to get rid of them for my own personal reasons,and I was planning on stripping out 2 more this week that are nothing but junkers with a few good parts so I can haul the remains to the crusher. Right now I have those two on hold because I don't want to give the county the impression they are successfully pushing me and can get away with it. You either stand up for your rights or you wake up one day and realize you no longer HAVE any rights. If they back off and leave me alone,there will only be a very few antique cars left in my yard by the end of June unless I get hurt or sick again. If they get pushy,I will get pushy. If this sounds like a lot of cars in a yard,my yard is 8 acres. Right now it is costing me lost sleep and higher blood pressure because I am all pissed off,and I try hard to not get mad anymore. Then I get madder because I am mad. It's like a self-perpetuating engine.
"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011 Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter.
They say worrying doesn't help anything but it is easier said than done. I've had my share of worries these past six months and a few restless nights. I would think the county knows your past history with these vehicles. Do you have contact with them? I hope it is quickly resolved in your favor so you can get peace of mind and lower blood pressure.
The pigs were harrassing me for an unlicensed truck I had sitting on my property. I wasn't driving it and was going to fix it. I went to federal court and sued them. I had the sheriff serve papers on the city. Eventually it took to much of my time and I gave in and sold the truck to a neighbor. But it was fun screwing with them for a while.
Some old man once told me you don't want to screw with an old man. While someone may take a few years of his life he can take a whole lot of your years away from you.
Yes.I talked to the county manager on the telephone yesterday. He said he couldn't find any "proof you are grandfathered". My response to him was "I have been here doing this since 1980. How much more fucking proof do you need?" Then I asked him does he keep records of everybody that isn't violating the law,and of how and why they are not violating the law because it was MY impression that guilt had to be proven,not innocence. He said he would get back with me and see if we could work something out. The only thing I am interested in agreeing on is the status quo.
"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011 Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter.
Oh,they know. A county commissioner that represented me last time has told them I am grandfathered,but they aren't taking his or my word as proof. They want evidence I am grandfathered. I told them this is America,and I want evidence I am NOT grandfathered. The manager said he would get back with me in a few days. I hope it is quickly resolved in your favor so you can get peace of mind and lower blood pressure. Me,too. I am starting to get and stay pissed off,and I always try to avoid that if at all possible. I'm even mad when I wake up now. I'm getting too old for this crap.
"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011 Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter.
My dad had a few run-ins with the local ordinance folks over the years. They somehow worked things out in good order. It was a long time ago and the details are fuzzy now. He had more than a few used cars with plates in good running order beside his home. He couldn't pass up a good deal when he saw one, plus he could afford them. Eventually he sold most of them, some to family and friends. It didn't reach a crisis point as far as I recall, but he did get rid of them. I'd like to think your county folks will work with you. That 100/day fine sounds pretty intimidating. Again, petey, best of luck. If no one can see them but you they aren't an eyesore is my point of view. But logic and good judgment sometimes don't make sense to the bureaucrats.
That's the purpose of it. To scare the citizens so badly they meekly pay up right away rather than fight them in court and take a chance on losing and getting hit with fines impossible for anyone to pay. And each day is considered to be a separate violation,so technically they can force you to take them to court 90 times if you are behind 90 days in paying the fines. I don't k now if they could really get away with that because harassment should be pretty easy to prove if they tried it,but technically they could do it. This has nothing to do with the law or justice. It's about a raw power grab and violating citizens rights.
"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011 Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter.
Hang in there, brother. Keep the focus on them having to prove their case and you not having to prove anything.
I'll believe that a corporation is a person 1 second after Texas executes one...
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"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul
#2. To: hondo68 (#1)
We're all guilty of something,
#3. To: sneakypete (#2)
#4. To: Fred Mertz (#3)
I hope it doesn't cost you an arm and a leg to win for a third time. Best of luck!
#5. To: sneakypete (#4)
#6. To: sneakypete (#2)
#7. To: sneakypete (#4)
#8. To: Fred Mertz (#5)
I would think the county knows your past history with these vehicles. Do you have contact with them?
#9. To: Fred Mertz (#5)
I would think the county knows your past history with these vehicles. Do you have contact with them?
#10. To: sneakypete (#9)
I'm getting too old for this crap.
#11. To: Fred Mertz (#10)
That 100/day fine sounds pretty intimidating.
#12. To: sneakypete (#8)
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