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Title: Shortfall in California’s Budget Swells to $16 Billion (Moonbeam says Obama blocking budget cuts)
Source: Infowars/NY Times
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Published: May 13, 2012
Author: ADAM NAGOURNEY
Post Date: 2012-05-13 19:44:25 by Hondo68
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Keywords: new spending cuts, reductions to schools health c, illegal aliens & slut supplies
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LOS ANGELES — The state budget shortfall in California has increased dramatically in the last six months, forcing state officials to assemble a series of new spending cuts that are likely to mean further reductions to schools, health care and other social programs already battered by nearly five years of budget retrenchment, state officials announced on Saturday.


Gov. Jerry Brown, disclosing the development in a video posted on YouTube, said that California’s shortfall was now projected to be $16 billion, up from $9.2 billion in January. Mr. Brown said that he would propose a revised budget on Monday to deal with it.

“We are now facing a $16 billion hole, not the $9 billion we thought in January,” Mr. Brown said. “This means we will have to go much further and make cuts far greater than I asked for at the beginning of the year.”

Mr. Brown disclosed the news in a video that had all the trappings of a campaign announcement. In it, he aggressively accounted for the steps he said he had taken to try to scale back a $26 billion deficit he found upon taking office. And he urged viewers to back an initiative he is putting on the November ballot that would increase sales taxes by 0.25 percent and impose an income tax surcharge on wealthy Californians to try to stave off more cuts.

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#96. To: lucysmom (#95)

Map of wineries in the Santa Cruz Mountians.

See post #93.


The economy is wonderful!
Re-elect Obama, he'll pay your rent!
A chicken in every pot!
-Baghdad Bri-bri-

LoonyMing: I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires.
Translation: IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH

'It's now very common to hear people say, "I'm rather offended by that", as if that gives them certain rights. It's no more than a whine. It has no meaning, it has no purpose, it has no reason to be respected as a phrase. "I'm offended by that." Well, so fucking what?' —Stephen Fry

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2012-05-14   14:25:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#97. To: lucysmom (#89)

What do you think those mountains you saw to the west during your 10-year stay in silicon valley are called?

The Los Altos Hills.

Thanks for playing.


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The economy is wonderful!
Re-elect Obama, he'll pay your rent!
A chicken in every pot!
-Baghdad Bri-bri-

LoonyMing: I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires.
Translation: IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH

'It's now very common to hear people say, "I'm rather offended by that", as if that gives them certain rights. It's no more than a whine. It has no meaning, it has no purpose, it has no reason to be respected as a phrase. "I'm offended by that." Well, so fucking what?' —Stephen Fry

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2012-05-14   14:35:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#98. To: mininggold, sneakypete (#64)

You can tell your ignorant Alaskan mutt buddy for me that there are plenty of vineyards around San Jose and Almaden.

1.) pete isn't anybody's messenger boy hag.

2.) I LIVED and WORKED in San Jose for ten years you stupid simpering bitch.

3.) San Jose is NOT the Central Valley you stoopid gibbering bitch.

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-05-14   14:42:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#99. To: hondo68 (#68)

Whinymold I figure for jail or mental institution. Progressive JBT's.

Working there or being incarcerated there?????

Leftardism/Liberalism: The chickenschitt way to deal with life’s problems by creating solutions to problems that don’t exist, thereby creating a problem where none existed before and then having to find a solution to that one…

CZ82  posted on  2012-05-14   14:44:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#100. To: NewsJunky (#82)

"UNFAIRNESS of LIFE".

You don't piss and moan about the "oppressive" government and liberals whose ideas you think have ruined the country? Both are here to stay and aren't going anywhere anytime soon. That's life..

WTF are you gibbering about FOOL?

Just show me, show us ALL moron; ONE FUCKING TIME THAT I OR ANY OTHER CONSERVATIVE HERE HAS EVER WHINED "ABOUT HOW UNFAIR LIFE IS" you stooooopid gibbering libTURD fuckwad.

THAT was the hag's SPECIFIC assertion moron.

What's the matter sphincter boy?

Have trouble with F'ing GRADE school level ENGLISH comprehension much?

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-05-14   14:51:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#101. To: Capitalist Eric (#94)

You know what the difference is between the government and the Mafia?

The government has badges.

Did you ever hear the story of The Little Boy Wo Cried Wolf? Do you see how that might apply to you?

Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady

lucysmom  posted on  2012-05-14   14:54:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#102. To: Mad Dog (#100)

ONE FUCKING TIME THAT I OR ANY OTHER CONSERVATIVE HERE HAS EVER WHINED "ABOUT HOW UNFAIR LIFE IS"

My guess is he thinks we're whining about how unfair life is when we complain about "OUR" tax money being used for "THEM" to go on vacation in Vegas, and use their Welfare credit cards to gamble with!!!! (You know how parasites are Dog)...

Leftardism/Liberalism: The chickenschitt way to deal with life’s problems by creating solutions to problems that don’t exist, thereby creating a problem where none existed before and then having to find a solution to that one…

CZ82  posted on  2012-05-14   14:56:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#103. To: lucysmom, Capitalist Eric (#95)

Map of wineries in the Santa Cruz Mountians.

LOL!

I swear Eric, this bitch is seriously mentally RETARDED!

This magic map shows ZERO vineyards IN SAN JOSE.

This stooooopid bitch just proved YOUR point!

LOL!

I spooks me out to know that people like this insane bitch are running around loose.

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-05-14   14:59:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#104. To: CZ82 (#102)

.

I'm sure that you are right Bro.

A lifetime of dealing with these insane libTURD assholes has shown me that their ignorance is invincible.

They simply do NOT live on the same planet as normal folks do.

I know how to treat parasites.

We worm the hosts.

Then we isolate the results, we hit it with bleach, then we burn it.

They ALWAYS come back.

So we do it twice a year, no matter what.

IMO that's what AMERICA needs, a GOOD WORMING.

It will KILL those too weak from their infestations but we MUST do it.

FOR THE CHILDREN.

Right?

I despise PARASITES.

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-05-14   15:06:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#105. To: Capitalist Eric (#97)

http://www.bigdogvineyards.com/winery.htm

Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET

mininggold  posted on  2012-05-14   15:28:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#106. To: Capitalist Eric (#93) (Edited)

As to your idiotic idea, there isn't "all that produce" in San Jose; in reality, there's NONE to speak of. But of course, you knew that, and were just trying to distract from the main point of Sneaky, that's it's getting REALLY BAD there.

Only idiots like you Asperger's think that everyone living in San Jose has to also work there.

An example is: Many vineyard workers live in Napa yet there are not many vineyards within the city limits.

Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET

mininggold  posted on  2012-05-14   15:31:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#107. To: mininggold (#106)

Only idiots like you Asperger's think that everyone living in San Jose has to also work there.

Please.

Now that your claim has been thoroughly debunked, you attack again, and try to twist it all around, so that you're NOT shown to be a lying b!tch?

((( eyeball roll )))

*smirk*


The economy is wonderful!
Re-elect Obama, he'll pay your rent!
A chicken in every pot!
-Baghdad Bri-bri-

LoonyMing: I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires.
Translation: IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH

'It's now very common to hear people say, "I'm rather offended by that", as if that gives them certain rights. It's no more than a whine. It has no meaning, it has no purpose, it has no reason to be respected as a phrase. "I'm offended by that." Well, so fucking what?' —Stephen Fry

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2012-05-14   16:37:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#108. To: mininggold (#106)

Only idiots like you Asperger's think that everyone living in San Jose has to also work there.

I wonder if all those silicon valley entrepreneurs mow their own lawns and prune their own trees?

Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady

lucysmom  posted on  2012-05-14   17:15:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#109. To: lucysmom (#108)

What, you looking for a job?

You'll have to get off your fat ass, though...


The economy is wonderful!
Re-elect Obama, he'll pay your rent!
A chicken in every pot!
-Baghdad Bri-bri-

LoonyMing: I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires.
Translation: IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH

'It's now very common to hear people say, "I'm rather offended by that", as if that gives them certain rights. It's no more than a whine. It has no meaning, it has no purpose, it has no reason to be respected as a phrase. "I'm offended by that." Well, so fucking what?' —Stephen Fry

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2012-05-14   17:16:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#110. To: mininggold (#106)

Only idiots like you Asperger's

Voodoo medical diagnosis over the internet, just one of the many features of ObongoCare.


Put two aspirin between your knees, and call me in the morning.


"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul

Obama's watch stopped on 24 May 2008, but he's been too busy smoking crack to notice.

Hondo68  posted on  2012-05-14   17:27:55 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#111. To: Capitalist Eric (#107)

Now that your claim has been thoroughly debunked, you attack again, and try to twist it all around, so that you're NOT shown to be a lying b!tch?

((( eyeball roll )))

*smirk*

Says the guy who claims to have lived in silicon valley for ten years and still doesn't know the name of the mountain range to the west of San Jose.

Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady

lucysmom  posted on  2012-05-14   17:28:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#112. To: Capitalist Eric (#109)

Your obsession with my ass isn't healthy.

Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady

lucysmom  posted on  2012-05-14   17:30:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#113. To: lucysmom (#112)

Says the guy who claims to have lived in silicon valley for ten years and still doesn't know the name of the mountain range to the west of San Jose.

JEEZ.....

On post #97, there's a MAP.... And due West of where I lived was the LOS ALTOS HILLS.

Your obsession with my ass isn't healthy.

At least on this point, we agree.


The economy is wonderful!
Re-elect Obama, he'll pay your rent!
A chicken in every pot!
-Baghdad Bri-bri-

LoonyMing: I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires.
Translation: IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH

'It's now very common to hear people say, "I'm rather offended by that", as if that gives them certain rights. It's no more than a whine. It has no meaning, it has no purpose, it has no reason to be respected as a phrase. "I'm offended by that." Well, so fucking what?' —Stephen Fry

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2012-05-14   17:58:12 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#114. To: Capitalist Eric (#93)

illegal-alien-wetback scumbags

The real scumbags are those that are born here and REFUSE to work.

The reason that people hire illegal aliens to mow lawns, clean houses, and pick fruit is because blacks and white trash are too fat, dumb, and happy on the government dole to get off of their lazy asses to work and make a difference to themselves, their families, and the people around them.

I don't blame people who work hard to provide for themselves and their families.

I don't blame them at all.


we must as a species go into a period of shrinkage that we have not experienced since the Dark Ages and the Black Plague -- loonymom

jwpegler  posted on  2012-05-14   18:03:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#115. To: Capitalist Eric (#113)

On post #97, there's a MAP.... And due West of where I lived was the LOS ALTOS HILLS.

It isn't "the" Los Alto Hills, it's Los Altos Hills - it's a place name, not a geographical feature. Los Altos Hills is located in the foothills of the Santa Cruz Mountains. Further, if I refer to mountains west of silicon valley that would mean mountains, not hills - there is a difference.

Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady

lucysmom  posted on  2012-05-14   19:04:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#116. To: Capitalist Eric (#113)

Me: Your obsession with my ass isn't healthy.

Eric: At least on this point, we agree.

Then do the responsible thing and go get help.

Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady

lucysmom  posted on  2012-05-14   19:07:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#117. To: lucysmom (#115) (Edited)

Post #89: What do you think those mountains you saw to the west during your 10-year stay in silicon valley are called?

It isn't "the" Los Alto Hills, it's Los Altos Hills - it's a place name, not a geographical feature.

STILL can't read...? As I said, "On post #97, there's a MAP.... And due West of where I lived was the LOS ALTOS HILLS."

The Los Altos Hills are due WEST of the San Jose area. The Santa Cruz mountains are SSW of San Jose/Silicon Valley.

I answered the exact question you asked.

Maybe you should be more precise in your questions.

LOL. It's so easy to play you... Thanks for the laughs.

Moving on to other threads... because you're just starting to bore me with your idiocy.


The economy is wonderful!
Re-elect Obama, he'll pay your rent!
A chicken in every pot!
-Baghdad Bri-bri-

LoonyMing: I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires.
Translation: IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH

'It's now very common to hear people say, "I'm rather offended by that", as if that gives them certain rights. It's no more than a whine. It has no meaning, it has no purpose, it has no reason to be respected as a phrase. "I'm offended by that." Well, so fucking what?' —Stephen Fry

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2012-05-14   19:10:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#118. To: jwpegler (#114)

The real scumbags are those that are born here and REFUSE to work.

Because the parasites know the nanny-state will take care of them...

The nanny's dying.

They'll learn to work, or they'll die.

PISS on 'em.


The economy is wonderful!
Re-elect Obama, he'll pay your rent!
A chicken in every pot!
-Baghdad Bri-bri-

LoonyMing: I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires.
Translation: IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH

'It's now very common to hear people say, "I'm rather offended by that", as if that gives them certain rights. It's no more than a whine. It has no meaning, it has no purpose, it has no reason to be respected as a phrase. "I'm offended by that." Well, so fucking what?' —Stephen Fry

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2012-05-14   19:13:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#119. To: Mad Dog (#100)

ABOUT HOW UNFAIR LIFE IS

Life includes having to deal with the government and liberals. If you complain about either you are complaining about life.

NewsJunky  posted on  2012-05-14   19:35:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#120. To: CZ82 (#102)

"THEM" to go on vacation in Vegas

Yeah I don't think someone on welfare should be going to Vegas. And unless they lie about their income they wouldn't be able to afford something like that. TANF (cash assistance) is basically subsistence income for the woman and her children. I think all fraud should be weeded out.

NewsJunky  posted on  2012-05-14   19:49:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#121. To: NewsJunky (#119)

.

Perhaps.

But COMPLAINING is NOT the same thing as WHINING moron.

LMAOAY!!!!!!

You gibbering libTURD shithead you are forced to use ENGLISH as it is, NOT as you want it to be.

Words have actual meanings MORON.

That you are so stooopid that you conflate words that do not have the same meaning out of ignorance or agenda means NOTHING to me moron.

It would be best for you now to shut up so as NOT to prove the axiom that it is better to be thought of as a FOOL while silent than to PROVE that you are a FOOL by venting your noxious pie hole, MORON.

I'm jes sayin ...

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-05-14   19:53:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#122. To: Capitalist Eric (#117)

STILL can't read...? As I said, "On post #97, there's a MAP.... And due West of where I lived was the LOS ALTOS HILLS."

The Los Altos Hills are due WEST of the San Jose area. The Santa Cruz mountains are SSW of San Jose/Silicon Valley.

Go read your map again Eric, it doesn't "the" Los Altos Hills, it says Los Altos Hills.

I asked the name of the mountains west of San Jose, and you give me the name of a town and think just because the name has "hill" in it, you've answered my question.

You are wrong about the location of the Santa Cruz Mountains:

The Santa Cruz Mountains AVA is an American Viticultural Area centered around the Santa Cruz Mountains. It includes three counties in California: Santa Clara, Santa Cruz and San Mateo. Recognized as an AVA in 1981, the Santa Cruz Mountains Appellation was among the first to be defined by its mountain topography. Wikipedia

Just for laughs, here's a picture of a 60 arce orchard in Los Altos Hills:

Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady

lucysmom  posted on  2012-05-14   20:39:27 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#123. To: Capitalist Eric (#117)

Moving on to other threads... because you're just starting to bore me with your idiocy.

It's been said that only boring people get bored.

Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady

lucysmom  posted on  2012-05-14   20:41:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#124. To: lucysmom, Sneakypete, ALL (#122)

You stoopid bitch, it's your other half who claimed that San Jose has "PRODUCE" that needs picking by illegal aliens.

A few vineyards does NOT the Central Valley make.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

"#33. To: lucysmom, Sneakypete (#30)

If your brother thinks San Jose is bad

I wonder who else Sneaky thinks will pick all that produce or cheaply clean the offices of the computer moguls.

Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'.

Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET

mininggold posted on 2012-05-14 12:07:40 ET Reply Trace Private Reply ."

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-05-14   21:06:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#125. To: Mad Dog (#121)

Whining:

2. To complain or protest in a childish fashion

I see that every day on this site.

NewsJunky  posted on  2012-05-14   21:23:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#126. To: mininggold, Mad Dog (#64)

You can tell your ignorant Alaskan mutt buddy for me that there are plenty of vineyards around San Jose and Almaden.

Why don't you tell him yourself?

"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011

Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs

Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter.

sneakypete  posted on  2012-05-14   21:27:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#127. To: Capitalist Eric, jwpegler (#65)

I suspect that is exactly what is going to happen.

At one point or another it HAS to happen. The money just isn't there and we will reach the point where we can't borrow it anymore because it won't be in the interests of the international bankers to bail us out.

That will be the day the Second American Revolution starts.

"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011

Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs

Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter.

sneakypete  posted on  2012-05-14   21:30:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#128. To: hondo68 (#110)

Only idiots like you Asperger's

That was a dig at me. I posted that I have Asperger's Syndrome a while back,and she immediated jumped all over me for being "retarded". I then asked her what a leftie like her was doing poking fun at someone she thinks is legally retarded (she had obviously never done any research on Asperger's ),and why she wasn't ashamed of herself for this.

I also had some fun with her by telling her that many Aspberger's people have genius-level IQ's,and asking her what it feels like to know someone she was ridiculing for being retarded is smarter than her.

Now she mostly takes these indirect potshots,

"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011

Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs

Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter.

sneakypete  posted on  2012-05-14   21:59:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#129. To: jwpegler (#114)

The real scumbags are those that are born here and REFUSE to work.

And don't even know how to read,write,or speak standard English.

I'm no fan of illegal aliens because they are criminals,but they do work and they generally do good work.

"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011

Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs

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sneakypete  posted on  2012-05-14   22:01:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#130. To: sneakypete (#127) (Edited)

The money just isn't there and we will reach the point where we can't borrow it anymore because it won't be in the interests of the international bankers to bail us out.

That will be the day the Second American Revolution starts.

Who will pay for the revolution, or do you think food, weapons, ammunition, transportation, uniforms (Orly Taitz wants uniforms), medical supplies, etc. are free.

Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady

lucysmom  posted on  2012-05-14   22:04:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#131. To: lucysmom (#130)

Who will pay for the revolution, or do you think food, weapons, ammunition, transportation, uniforms (Orly Taitz wants uniforms), medical supplies, etc.

Real revolutions are spontaneous,not organized events with CPA's and social directors.

And revolutionaries are prone to take what they want or need,and shoot anybody that objects.

"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011

Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs

Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter.

sneakypete  posted on  2012-05-14   22:07:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#132. To: mcgowanjm (#9)

That was a bad, bad post on your part. It suggests that you didn't study your history books.

Contrary to your opinion, it is individual human thought, human imagination, human inventiveness and human spirit that leads the course of human events; we are not lagging or after the fact as you prophetically say. I hope you don't mind me stepping on your clumsy tippy-toes, but you are full of "hot-aire." I shall itemize your silly post into easily understood "mcgowanjm guffaws" for you to recognize.

mcgowanjm guffaw#0:

To look at this whole post from a Fourth Turning perspective, how does this Turning differ from the American Revolution, the Civil War, and the Great Depression? In each of those prior Turnings our Society was accessing Greater Wealth and Power. After the American Revolution, we were accessing the vast Wealth of the North American Continent and all its Resources.

Bad lead-in to your arguments, mcgowanjm. Here is why:

mcgowanjm guffaw#1:

After the American Revolution, we were accessing the vast Wealth of the North American Continent and all its Resources.

That is false. America (or the 13 colonies) were already involved with HUGE stakes of natural resources BEFORE the American Revolution. As one example: the American or Yankee Clipper Ships was built out of the NorthEast from natural timber. Those same ships were the fastest on oceanic travel and were principally purchased by Britain. In a true sense, America ensured the demise of the Spanish Armada, freeing Britain for world conquest after defeating Spain.

mcgowanjm guffaw#2:

After the Civil War, we were accessing the thermodynamic energy of Coal and beginning the Industrial Revolution.

The Great American Civil War (the war between the North and South) was circa ~1863 for some four years later. Much of the infrastructure of America was in a state of economic shock because of the war; this is true especially for the South; it was the bloodiest war that America has EVER fought.

Prior to the Civil War, the North maintained about 80% of the railways in America. The railways were an offshoot of technology from Europe built upon the pre-existing two-wheeled donkey carts from the older Roman Empire. I am not suggesting the Roman Empire created railway systems. I am suggesting the Roman Empire created roads EVERYWHERE in Europe and around the Mediteranian ocean. And, as a result, those same well-traveled paths of nearly 2000 years were used for the creation of a railway system.

America came at the right time to take advantage of that technology. Even to this day, America's railway system is inferior to Europes by ORDERS of magnitude.

Europe created the precursors of the Industrial Revolution several hundred before the America Civil War. We were just lucky in time and space when looking back to have taken advantage of the technologies that later came AND the America built upon, leading the world.

mcgowanjm guffaw#3:

After the Great Depression and WWII, we were accessing the thermodynamic energy of Oil and growing into the Information Age.

Incredible statement. The modern world of telecommunications occured with Joseph Henry. He created the electro-magnetic coil which in turn lead to the technology of morse code or telography or the telegraph. This happened even BEFOR the Civil War, my friend.

What you are referring to is the US government's research into semi-conductors after WW2 because of the earlier technological considerations about radio and telecommunications problems for weight and power consumption in wartime. The vacummum tube was invented WAYYY before the Great Depression to include my great-grandfather's video graphic tube.

mcgowanjm guffaw#4:

What is there left for us now to grow into after THIS Fourth Turning.

Nothing. Absolutely nothing. Based on your reasoning we should just join some cult and take a pill because a comet streamed by and we can't do anything about it.

mcgowanjm guffaw#5:

I put to you that we have nothing left to grow into now, and so we must as a species go into a period of shrinkage that we have not experienced since the Dark Ages and the Black Plaguei (sic). Like the original Dark Ages, I think this period will last near a Millenia, and who we are and how we come out of this at the end is anybody’s guess.

The DARK AGES were before the Black Plague; it occured during the decline to the Roman Empire, circa ~300 AD to ~1300 AD. At that time a religious monstrousity was built from the religious nutcases called "Catholics" that subjugated their own people. They were more brutal than even the Romans were. Because the "Catholics" went into decline for hundreds of years, fucking everyone to include Jews and Muslims in Jerusalem, a few folks went to China for increased trade benefits.

Marco Polo unintentionally brought back the Black Plague in about 1300. This disease destroyed about 60% of Europe's population base. More than that, the Black Plague stopped the silly Crusades and destroed the power of the Holy Roman Empire's Pope.

This human blight created an all-new way viewing the world in the Renaissance period, circa ~1350.

As a recommendation, please re-think your own posts. You can research everything I have discussed. But, one FACT remains: you don't know what you have talked about.

buckeroo  posted on  2012-05-14   22:17:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#133. To: lucysmom (#130)

uniforms (Orly Taitz wants uniforms),

Brown shirts maybe? cuz we all know this supposed revolution is going to be led by the right. Who else is talking about it?

NewsJunky  posted on  2012-05-14   22:40:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#134. To: lucysmom (#122)

I asked the name of the mountains west of San Jose,

There are NO mountains WEST of San Jose. The Los Altos Hills are as close as it gets. After that, it's the fucking PACIFIC OCEAN.

JEEZ, you are fucking THICK.

Oh, and the pic you posted, shows... the LOS ALTOS HILLS.

THANK YOU for proving my point.

As to posting links from wiki, I've been there, lived in the area from 1992 until 2007. It'd be the same as posting a pic of a '68 Camaro, and then use wiki to tell me ALL about it... when I'm building one in my garage!

It's been said that only boring people get bored.

It's been said [by you] that you're PROUD to be ignorant.

It's been said [by almost everyone on this forum] that you're a STOOOPID bitch.

It's been said [by me] that you're a worthless cunt.

The fact is, you think you can debate with me (or anyone else on this forum), just by virtue of the fact that you can punch the letters on a keyboard. You think wrong.

The reality is that you're an idiot, and you brag about your ignorance with every fucking post you make. You constantly attempt to discuss things like macroeconomics, when it is obvious you have NO clue about the subject. Ohhh, you try to use the dumbed-down expressions of other so-called experts, but at the end of the day, you just a stupid bitch, who mouths the empty platitudes of the MSM-propaganda.

Question:Why would ANYBODY take you seriously?
Answer: NOBODY who knows shit from shinola takes you seriously.


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Translation: IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH

'It's now very common to hear people say, "I'm rather offended by that", as if that gives them certain rights. It's no more than a whine. It has no meaning, it has no purpose, it has no reason to be respected as a phrase. "I'm offended by that." Well, so fucking what?' —Stephen Fry

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2012-05-14   22:58:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#135. To: NewsJunky (#133)

Brown shirts maybe? cuz we all know this supposed revolution is going to be led by the right. Who else is talking about it?

Red has bad political associations, green isn't any better. Purple, that's gay isn't it? In fact all the colors of the rainbow are kinda gay. Brown is a real possibility.

Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady

lucysmom  posted on  2012-05-14   22:59:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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