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Title: The Myth About Marriage
Source: New York Review of Books
URL Source: http://www.nybooks.com/blogs/nyrblo ... s%29&utm_content=Google+Reader
Published: May 13, 2012
Author: Garry Wills
Post Date: 2012-05-13 10:23:43 by lucysmom
Keywords: None
Views: 67616
Comments: 126

Why do some people who would recognize gay civil unions oppose gay marriage? Certain religious groups want to deny gays the sacredeness of what they take to be a sacrament. But marriage is no sacrament.

Some of my fellow Catholics even think that “true marriage” was instituted by Christ. It wasn’t. Marriage is prescribed in Eden by YHWH (Yahweh) at Genesis 2.24: man and wife shall “become one flesh.” When Jesus is asked about marriage, he simply quotes that passage from Genesis (Mark 10.8). He nowhere claims to be laying a new foundation for a “Christian marriage” to replace the Yahwist institution.

Some try to make the wedding at Cana (John 1.1-11) somehow sacramental because Jesus worked his first miracle there. But that was clearly a Jewish wedding, like any other Jesus might have attended, and the miracle, by its superabundance of wine, is meant to show the disciples that the Messianic time has come. The great Johannine scholar Father Raymond Brown emphasizes this, and concludes of the passage: “Neither the external nor the internal evidence for a symbolic reference to matrimony is strong. The wedding is only the backdrop and occasion for the story, and the joining of the man and woman does not have any direct role in the narrative.”

The early church had no specific rite for marriage. This was left up to the secular authorities of the Roman Empire, since marriage is a legal concern for the legitimacy of heirs.

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Those who do not want to let gay partners have the sacredness of sacramental marriage are relying on a Scholastic fiction of the thirteenth century to play with people’s lives, as the church has done ever since the time of Aquinas. The myth of the sacrament should not let people deprive gays of the right to natural marriage, whether blessed by Yahweh or not. They surely do not need—since no one does—the blessing of Saint Thomas.

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#7. To: lucysmom (#0)

There is no such thing as "gay marriage." Marriage is between a man and a woman PERIOD.

The discussion is about "gay bonding" which is a totally different idea. I fixed your thread.

buckeroo  posted on  2012-05-13   10:39:03 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: buckeroo (#7)

There is no such thing as "gay marriage." Marriage is between a man and a woman PERIOD.

As a civil matter, marriage is whatever the law says it is.

lucysmom  posted on  2012-05-13   10:44:03 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: lucysmom (#8)

Oh just GREAT! The law based upon a pile of silly people that want to "change" something decide to make homosexuals have babies. That is too cool. Is it possible or are there more miracles running around today than baby Jesus?

buckeroo  posted on  2012-05-13   10:46:28 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: buckeroo (#9)

"The law based upon a pile of silly people that want to "change" something decide to make homosexuals have babies."

Homosexuals have babies all the time. My city has quite a large enclave of lesbian couples and singles. many of the couples have had children vis a vis artificial insemination.

The 'they can't beget children' gambit makes no rational sense as an anti-homosexual argument unless one also takes the position that infertile couples of all kinds, even those not any longer of child bearing years should break up as their relationships no longer have any raison de etre because children can not come from it.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2012-05-13   11:02:49 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Ferret Mike (#13)

Homosexuals have babies all the time.

WoW! I learn something new everyday! Can you provide a few details on this phenomena?

buckeroo  posted on  2012-05-13   11:07:03 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: buckeroo (#15)

Keep kicking their as buckeroo.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-05-13   15:31:12 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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