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Title: Paul supporters make mark at Maine GOP convention
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FOXNEWS: the voice of the GOP
URL Source: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201 ... -mark-at-maine-gop-convention/
Published: May 6, 2012
Author: staff
Post Date: 2012-05-06 10:22:01 by buckeroo
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Views: 26499
Comments: 52
"I think it shows that our numbers are here," Aaron Quinn, a 28-year-old Paul supporter from Brunswick, said after the close chairmanship vote. Paul supporter Brent Tweed, a state committee member from York County, was elected chairman with 1,118 delegates' votes, just four more votes than the mainstream candidate, Charles Cragin, a one-time gubernatorial candidate. A Paul supporter was also narrowly elected secretary. The votes were largely symbolic but important because they show the level of support at the crowded convention for the libertarian-leaning Paul. His supporters' real goals were to elect majorities on Republican county, state and national committees -- and elect a majority of the state's delegates to this summer's GOP national convention in Tampa, Fla. Delivering 13 of Maine's 24 delegates to Paul would ensure he gets a chance to address the convention, said Matthew McDonald of Belfast, a Paul-supporting delegate. "That's why Maine today is really, really important," McDonald said. Nevada Republicans, who were holding their convention Saturday, also expected a strong Paul showing. "I think it's a democratic process with a small D," Cragin said. "I just hope this enthusiasm continues with some longevity after Tampa." Votes for a party platform, national delegates and national committee members were also scheduled for Saturday. Paul supporters said they had no objections to the platform, which included calls for fiscal prudence and no new taxes, strong local and weak national governments, making English the official language of Maine, right to work and voter ID law, and other items. Two years ago, tea party activists who showed up in force at the convention forced changes that left their mark on the platform. Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/05/06/paul-supporters-make-mark-at-maine-gop-convention/#ixzz1u6E5aNoqAUGUSTA, Maine – Ron Paul's army of supporters in Maine flexed their muscle Saturday as they elected their candidate for chairman of the state Republican convention, a first step toward taking over key party committees and giving the Texas congressman a voice at this summer's national convention.
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#1. To: buckeroo (#0)
For all you neo's out there... if you do not have those 'libertarian leanings', you are not a conservative. This has been a Public Service announcement.
Perhaps if you described or otherwise identified what those "libertarian leanings" are we'd have a more useful yardstick. Nancy Pelosi has "libertarian leanings", but I doubt you'd agree she's a conservative.
Sure! :o) I'd love to! Well, we can first take a look at the Bill of Rights, or, the first 10 Amendments to the Constitution as one of, and arguably the most important of, our guidelines. There can be no doubt that the BOR has an immense libertarian leaning. And if one were to really stop and think about it, conservatism itself is deeply dependent, fundamentally, to libertarian leanings. Being fiscally conservative with the peoples' money stems from the basic and rudimentary libertarian belief that a man owns the fruits of his own labor. Today's 'social conservatism' is actually not conservatism at all, but an ideology from the authoritarian left, adopted by the right, (just like the leftist foreign policy of intervention has been adopted by the right) and coming from the belief that government can and should regulate what government considers the moral affairs of its citizens. This even leads to a bigger and more powerful central government which is polar opposite of conservatism. In true social conservatism, government has no business intervening in the moral affairs of its citizens. As long as one is not violating the rights of others, government has no constitutional authority. Then there is also foreign policy conservatism or nonintervention, which also stems from the basic libertarian belief against coercion. Liz Cheney, even from her senior thesis, "The Evolution of Presidential War Powers" has proven that she, like her father, prefers a unitary executive, big government and the leftist approach of intervention in the foreign affairs of other countries, in 'making the world safe for democracy', which is a leftist doctrine. Nancy Pelosi has "libertarian leanings", but I doubt you'd agree she's a conservative. Nancy Pelosi has absolutely no libertarian leanings. She may hold a couple views in common with the Big L, Libertarian Party, but her reasoning to reach those conclusions are polar opposite of conservative thought. EDIT: Sorry for the edit, but these are a few basic points concerning the most obvious issues. We can go even further in depth if you'd like.
Citations would help but rather than waste my time with your bloviations I might suggest you reflect on the fact that the libertarians in general and the wacko libertarians here are not conservatives. But you already know that. That isn't a compliment either.
You want citations to my own descriptions? Badeye asked...(Oops, sorry Badeye) I mean, Thunderbird asked, "Perhaps if you described or otherwise identified what those "libertarian leanings" are we'd have a more useful yardstick." So I described and identified the most obvious. If you want a citation, here you go... libertysflame.com/cgi-bin...gi?ArtNum=29939&Disp=5#C5 but rather than waste my time with your bloviations I might suggest you reflect on the fact that the libertarians in general and the wacko libertarians here are not conservatives. Pardon me for being so blunt, but you wouldn't know conservatism if it climbed up into your lap and called you mommy. Conservatism is completely foreign to you. Don't claim knowledge of that which you know nothing about, or I may be forced into joining you in making you look like an idiot.
Don't believe everything you hear WTP... I'm sure ole Badeye himself would get a 'chuckle' over the fact that I've been 'identified' as him by the usual band of boring liberal fuck-ups.
Don't believe everything you hear WTP... I'm sure ole Badeye himself would get a 'chuckle' over the fact that I've been 'identified' as him by the usual band of boring liberal fuck-ups. Sorry. You're right. But Badeye and I had very similar discussions, and his positions were very similar to yours. But you're right, I jumped to a conclusion. Your logic, language and posting style appear almost identical though. Actually, I miss having these discussions. Where is Badeye?
Your logic, language and posting style appear almost identical though. Actually, I miss having these discussions. Where is Badeye? As far as I know..Badeye got tired of some of the trolls at this site and posts almost exclusively on Facebook where folks can't hide behind a screen name. He and I share some of the same political philosophy, but he's been posting on these chit-chat sites much longer than I have. Our differences are more likely to be on some social issues (for example I don't like pit bulls and he's into dog rescue) than political issues, but I haven't really kept up with his views in the past year or so. I agree though, he'd make this a more interesting place.
Exclusively on FB since I stopped posting here. Yes, the trolls with fake screen names, and faked internet lives got tedious, but I also grew tired of the personal attack threads posted as 'breaking news'. I will say I find it hilarious just how many of these idiots claim I have multiple accounts and screen names here. Kooks are funny, to a point anyway. I see war got banned from here and another website again...continuing a 12 year pattern (laughing). Anyway....nice to see the site is a tad more focused on whats 'real' these days.
Well..apparently they think Thunderbird is one of those names, with the dwarf being the main instigator. I guess its projection on his part considering the multiple screen names & accounts he's used to follow you like a puppy across multiple chit chat sites over the years. It must satisfy some pathetic *need* he has to appear relevant to think he's responding to his 'nemesis' when he's posting to me, who knows? Fwiw I've posted on some of the same forums with you over the years too, using a different moniker. Some other names you'd likely remember from those days are LuisG, Sabertooth, and Magic (r.i.p.). Anyhow, thanks for dropping by and setting the record straight. Cheers -TB
The problem that you have Boofer is your total lack of creativity. The above is a near verbatim typical Boofer screech about the means old nasties dwarfs. What you will never understand about life, Boof, is that some people are *sharks* and some are *food*...the shark never complains...the food always *does*. Stop complaining... BTW, the person who *chased* you across multiple forums is pretty well known to everyone and everyone pretty well knows that it was not me...Cement Mixer was a different story that goes like this: Once upon a time Boofer got hoisted on his own petard and the hoister lived happily ever after...the end... *sniff* *sniff* I just love a story with a happy ending...
What you will never understand about life, Boof, is that some people are *sharks* and some are *food*...the shark never complains...the food always *does*. All this tells me is that you're a bigger fool and a lot less connected with reality than I thought WARt. Feel better huh? -btw I'm sure Badeye at least is getting a *chuckle* over your misplaced obsession.
Whatever...no one believes you anyway and it was more or less affirmed on the other site yesterday. (snicker)
#49. To: war (#47)
Lol..the only thing affirmed at the other site is that you're a whiny troll who gets smacked around. You're no more credible in your latest *incarnation* than you have been elsewhere. How many sites have you been kicked off to date..is it 8 or 10? (lmao)
Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/LatestThe votes were largely symbolic but important because they show the level of support at the crowded convention for the libertarian-leaning Paul.
#3. To: We The People (#1)
For all you neo's out there... if you do not have those 'libertarian leanings', you are not a conservative.
#5. To: Thunderbird (#3)
(Edited)
Perhaps if you described or otherwise identified what those "libertarian leanings" are we'd have a more useful yardstick.
#6. To: We The People (#5)
...but these are a few basic points concerning the most obvious issues. We can go even further in depth if you'd like.
#7. To: harrowup (#6)
(Edited)
Citations would help
#12. To: We The People, Badeye (#7)
Badeye asked...(Oops, sorry Badeye) I mean, Thunderbird asked,
#14. To: Thunderbird (#12)
Badeye asked...(Oops, sorry Badeye) I mean, Thunderbird asked,
#16. To: We The People, Badeye (#14)
But Badeye and I had very similar discussions, and his positions were very similar to yours. But you're right, I jumped to a conclusion.
#27. To: Thunderbird (#16)
s far as I know..Badeye got tired of some of the trolls at this site and posts almost exclusively on Facebook where folks can't hide behind a screen name.
#39. To: Badeye (#27)
I will say I find it hilarious just how many of these idiots claim I have multiple accounts and screen names here. Kooks are funny, to a point anyway.
#42. To: Thunderbird (#39)
(Edited)
I guess its projection on his part considering the multiple screen names & accounts he's used to follow you like a puppy across multiple chit chat sites over the years. It must satisfy some pathetic *need* he has to appear relevant to think he's responding to his 'nemesis' when he's posting to me, who knows?
#44. To: war, badeye (#42)
The problem that you have Boofer is your total lack of creativity. The above is a near verbatim typical Boofer screech about the means old nasties dwarfs.
#47. To: Thunderbird (#44)
(Edited)
Replies to Comment # 47. Whatever...no one believes you anyway and it was more or less affirmed on the other site yesterday.
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