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Title: Homophobic? Maybe You’re Gay
Source: New York Times
URL Source: http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/29/o ... omophobic-maybe-youre-gay.html
Published: Apr 27, 2012
Author: RICHARD M. RYAN and WILLIAM S. RYAN
Post Date: 2012-05-03 20:31:31 by lucysmom
Keywords: None
Views: 10083
Comments: 27

In recent years, Ted Haggard, an evangelical leader who preached that homosexuality was a sin, resigned after a scandal involving a former male prostitute; Larry Craig, a United States senator who opposed including sexual orientation in hate-crime legislation, was arrested on suspicion of lewd conduct in a men’s bathroom; and Glenn Murphy Jr., a leader of the Young Republican National Convention and an opponent of same-sex marriage, pleaded guilty to a lesser charge after being accused of sexually assaulting another man.

One theory is that homosexual urges, when repressed out of shame or fear, can be expressed as homophobia. Freud famously called this process a “reaction formation” — the angry battle against the outward symbol of feelings that are inwardly being stifled. Even Mr. Haggard seemed to endorse this idea when, apologizing after his scandal for his anti-gay rhetoric, he said, “I think I was partially so vehement because of my own war.”

It’s a compelling theory — and now there is scientific reason to believe it. In this month’s issue of the Journal of Personality and Social Psychology, we and our fellow researchers provide empirical evidence that homophobia can result, at least in part, from the suppression of same-sex desire.

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#1. To: A K A Stone, Anti-ping to CE, Fred Mertz, Godwinson, go65, war, no gnu taxes, Skip Intro, ferret mike, jwpegler, brian s, mininggold, mcgowanjm (#0)

Notably, these “discrepant” individuals were also significantly more likely than other participants to favor anti-gay policies; to be willing to assign significantly harsher punishments to perpetrators of petty crimes if they were presumed to be homosexual; and to express greater implicit hostility toward gay subjects...

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Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady

lucysmom  posted on  2012-05-03   20:33:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: lucysmom (#0)

This is a very real problem. I never hear about homosexuality from neighbors who are gay couples, as they are secure and happy with their lives and it is nobody's business about the aspect of their lives that partially is manifested in their bedrooms.

But some people who are obsessed with homosexuality protest way too much that they hate the sexual orientation if same gender attraction. They should get therapy, find a partner their gender and shut the heck up and stop bothering people about their obsession 24-7.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2012-05-03   20:43:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: lucysmom (#0)

Bitchy women cause men to seek - find a father figure - savior !

If you ... don't use exclamation points --- you should't be typeing ! Commas - semicolons - question marks are for girlie boys !

BorisY  posted on  2012-05-03   20:46:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: BorisY (#3)

Bitchy women cause men to seek - find a father figure - savior !

Realizing you have that problem is the first step.

Seek a qualified therapist.

“America is at that awkward stage; it's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards.”---Claire Wolfe

Bill D Berger  posted on  2012-05-03   20:51:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Bill D Berger (#4)

A fatherless home - maternal uncles is what happened to you !

If you ... don't use exclamation points --- you should't be typeing ! Commas - semicolons - question marks are for girlie boys !

BorisY  posted on  2012-05-03   20:55:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: lucysmom (#0)

One theory is that homosexual urges, when repressed out of shame or fear, can be expressed as homophobia. Freud famously called this process a “reaction formation” — the angry battle against the outward symbol of feelings that are inwardly being stifled. Even Mr. Haggard seemed to endorse this idea when, apologizing after his scandal for his anti-gay rhetoric, he said, “I think I was partially so vehement because of my own war.”

That would explain yukon.

“America is at that awkward stage; it's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards.”---Claire Wolfe

Bill D Berger  posted on  2012-05-03   20:56:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Bill D Berger (#6)

homo denial - projection !

If you ... don't use exclamation points --- you should't be typeing ! Commas - semicolons - question marks are for girlie boys !

BorisY  posted on  2012-05-03   21:02:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Bill D Berger (#6)

One theory is that homosexual urges, when repressed out of shame or fear, can be expressed as homophobia. Freud famously called this process a “reaction formation” — the angry battle against the outward symbol of feelings that are inwardly being stifled. Even Mr. Haggard seemed to endorse this idea when, apologizing after his scandal for his anti-gay rhetoric, he said, “I think I was partially so vehement because of my own war.”

That would explain yukon.

He should have stayed out of the closet.

When he was resigned to the fact that everyone knew, he immediately stopped being an asshole.

We The People  posted on  2012-05-03   21:07:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Bill D Berger (#6)

That would explain yukon.

Exactly what I was thinking!

Abcdefg  posted on  2012-05-03   22:21:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: We The People (#8)

When he was resigned to the fact that everyone knew [he is a homo], he immediately stopped being an asshole.

Well, he got over it.

Abcdefg  posted on  2012-05-03   22:22:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Bill D Berger (#6)

That would explain yukon.

but i thought HE WUZ HACKED!

"And don't get smart with me you prick. I know where you live. harrowup posted on 2012-04-30 18:55:29 ET Reply Trace"

calcon  posted on  2012-05-03   22:34:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Abcdefg, We The People (#10)

Hi yukie how's it going???

(you know the closet queen will be trolling this thread just like he trolls those gay websites.)

"And don't get smart with me you prick. I know where you live. harrowup posted on 2012-04-30 18:55:29 ET Reply Trace"

calcon  posted on  2012-05-03   22:37:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: calcon, Ferret Mike (#12)

Hell! Threads like this are a wet dream of Mikes, he soooo wants to be excepted he just keeps on fishing for a 'gay headcount' to please himself, so he keeps harping on anyone who believes homosexuality is wrong, a sin. He ignores those who tolerate homosexuals that are not radical, its the radicals with an agenda I despise, but he's too stupid to understand the difference, he thinks if you bitch at a person enough, call them names, they can be shamed into changing their minds. Bull Shit! He actually thinks you can brow beat a person into accepting behavior you loath, and abhor. Go figure!

It's his problem, he's the one who needs lots of 'therapy', with GOD Himself, man can't do a thing for him, but stroke his ego, and doom his soul! jmho!

"A friend will calm you down when you are angry, but a best friend will skip beside you with a baseball bat singing, "someone's gonna get it"

Murron  posted on  2012-05-04   0:53:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Murron (#13) (Edited)

Actually, after posting on forums since the mid nineties, not to mention doing quite a bit real time activism, I know those with whom I actively debate issues like this with are not likely to change their minds anymore then they will make me change mine.

And usually, the game is to aim the focus at those lurking. Something not really a huge demographic in this forum's audience. So actually, it's very obvious I just discuss political issues and stories mainly because as a political animal, I like to.

Your view of what I post and why are twisted by your overwhelming desire to lash out at me for your own purposes, Louise.

You can't browbeat me with your distortions about me or my political beliefs anymore then you could win with that thread you did a while back where you posted about people with names similar to mine trying to ferret out no-existing evidence that I am probably a criminal hoping in vain one of them would turn out to be me.

Amusing post, sweet heart. Thanks for sharing.

(By the way, you mean 'accepted,' not 'excepted.')

Ferret Mike  posted on  2012-05-04   1:14:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: lucysmom (#1)

See Hitler for details....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-04   7:08:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Murron (#13)

It's his problem, he's the one who needs lots of 'therapy', with GOD Himself, man can't do a thing for him, but stroke his ego, and doom his soul! jmho!

Agree.

F****t Mike has a myriad of psycological problems that would take a team of Viennese doctors a year to diagnose.

Personally I think he has a crush on Stone who he sees as a father/authority figure.

Thunderbird  posted on  2012-05-04   8:42:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Thunderbird (#16) (Edited)

Agree.

F****t Mike has a myriad of psycological problems that would take a team of Viennese doctors a year to diagnose.

Personally I think he has a crush on Stone who he sees as a father/authority figure.

Naaah.... Murron is the one with the crush on Mike. Boofer

Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET

mininggold  posted on  2012-05-04   11:07:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: mininggold (#17)

"Personally I think he has a crush on Stone who he sees as a father/authority figure."

Heehee, I didn't see that because I have Badeye on bozo. Sound more like he is speaking for himself then me. ;-)

He tried for making me sound gay, and wound up accusing me of wanting to commit bestiality.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2012-05-04   11:25:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Ferret Mike (#18)

He tried for making me sound gay, and wound up accusing me of wanting to commit bestiality.

Projection seems to be another rampant conservative trait.

Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET

mininggold  posted on  2012-05-04   11:38:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: mininggold, thunderbird, (#17) (Edited)

"Mike has a myriad of psycological problems that would take a team of Viennese doctors a year to diagnose."

Boofie, if you are going to practice psychiatry without a license, at least try to spell psychological correctly, K?

http://www.meganslaw.ca.gov/cgi/prosoma.dll?searchby=offender&id=1869408335399

Murron tried to get dirt on me and probably paid badlie to do the background check. If this is the best results you can give her four eyes, she deserves a refund.

The guy above is the Californian she was hoping was me. And if she got the hots from him and thus is devastated into deep depression and disappointment, she lives in Kentucky. She can always go out in the hills and find a bubba like him that craves 14 year old girls or younger without even breaking a sweat trying. So she does not have my sympathy.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2012-05-04   11:39:01 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Ferret Mike, Murron, thunderbird, *Liberal Rehab Staff* (#20)

paid badlie to do the background check

This side by side comparison reveals that the hetrophobe on the left, is a lot queerer.


"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul

Obama's watch stopped on 24 May 2008, but he's been too busy smoking crack to notice.

Hondo68  posted on  2012-05-04   12:09:16 ET  (2 images) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: hondo68 (#21)


Poertland Saturday Market scene.

Actually, that 2006 picture shows me leaving the Portland Saturday market office after a hard weekend's work.

I see that picture of me quite differently, dude. You can see the scars on my arms from my injuries doing activism, the shirt was one I made and much like the others I sold jointly with a partner because I had my duties as an at will employee keeping me too busy to do a venue there all by myself.

I am wearing a 40.00 handmade hat by the Hat People from Talent Oregon, have an expensive bicycle and bicycle messenger bag with me because I'm about to ride eleven miles home.

If you think hippie and iconoclast=gay, you are spinning yourself into oxygen deprivation honda-do.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2012-05-04   12:21:00 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: hondo68 (#21)

This side by side comparison reveals that the hetrophobe on the left, is a lot queerer.

Is the one on the right you? Or between the two of you does Mike have more huevos?

Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET

mininggold  posted on  2012-05-04   12:25:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: lucysmom (#0)

Homophobic? Maybe You’re Gay

LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!

You mean like, if you are a "liberal"/"progressive"?

Do you HATE CONSERVATIVES? Maybe you ARE CONSERVATIVE?

LOL!

Toady.

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-05-04   12:58:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: hondo68 (#21)

This side by side comparison reveals that the hetrophobe on the left, is a lot queerer.

Yikes!..is that the same person?

The one on the left seems to be wearing lipstick.

Thunderbird  posted on  2012-05-04   13:31:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Ferret Mike, mininggold, thunderbird (#20)

"Murron tried to get dirt on me and probably paid badlie to do the background check. If this is the best results you can give her four eyes, she deserves a refund.

The guy above is the Californian she was hoping was me. And if she got the hots from him and thus is devastated into deep depression and disappointment, she lives in Kentucky. She can always go out in the hills and find a bubba like him that craves 14 year old girls or younger without even breaking a sweat trying. So she does not have my sympathy."

Heterophobic Paranoia...

"A friend will calm you down when you are angry, but a best friend will skip beside you with a baseball bat singing, "someone's gonna get it"

Murron  posted on  2012-05-04   21:35:02 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Murron (#26)

That's two words. Now, can you do a complete sentence? Explain why you are intolerant of us heterosexuals and where does paranoia fit in?

Ferret Mike  posted on  2012-05-04   21:39:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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