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Title: SEALs slam Obama for using them as 'ammunition' in bid to take credit for bin Laden killing during election campaign
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daily mail UK
URL Source: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art ... killing-election-campaign.html
Published: May 1, 2012
Author: harnden
Post Date: 2012-05-01 09:31:37 by calcon
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Serving and former US Navy SEALs have slammed President Barack Obama for taking the credit for killing Osama bin Laden and accused him of using Special Forces operators as ‘ammunition’ for his re-election campaign. The SEALs spoke out to MailOnline after the Obama campaign released an ad entitled ‘One Chance’. In it President Bill Clinton is featured saying that Mr Obama took ‘the harder and the more honourable path’ in ordering that bin Laden be killed. The words ‘Which path would Mitt Romney have taken?’ are then displayed. Besides the ad, the White House is marking the first anniversary of the SEAL Team Six raid that killed bin Laden inside his compound in Abbottabad, Pakistan with a series of briefings and an NBC interview in the Situation Room designed to highlight the ‘gutsy call’ made by the President. Scroll down for video Taking credit: President Obama has used bin Laden's death as a campaign tool Taking credit: President Obama has used bin Laden's death as a campaign tool Mr Obama used a news conference today to trumpet his personal role and imply that his Republican opponent Mr Romney, who in 2008 expressed reservations about the wisdom of sending troops into Pakistan, would have let bin Laden live. ‘I said that I'd go after bin Laden if we had a clear shot at him, and I did,’ Mr Obama said. ‘If there are others who have said one thing and now suggest they'd do something else, then I'd go ahead and let them explain it.’ Ryan Zinke, a former Commander in the US Navy who spent 23 years as a SEAL and led a SEAL Team 6 assault unit, said: ‘The decision was a no brainer. I applaud him for making it but I would not overly pat myself on the back for making the right call. ‘I think every president would have done the same. He is justified in saying it was his decision but the preparation, the sacrifice - it was a broader team effort.’ Mr Zinke, who is now a Republican state senator in Montana, added that MR Obama was exploiting bin Laden’s death for his re-election bid. ‘The President and his administration are positioning him as a war president using the SEALs as ammunition. It was predictable.’ Obama has faced criticism even from allies about his decision to make a campaign ad about the bin Laden raid. Arianna Huffington, an outspoken liberal who runs the left-leaning Huffington Post website, roundly condemned it. She told CBS: ‘We should celebrate the fact that they did such a great job. It's one thing to have an NBC special from the Situation Room... all that to me is perfectly legitimate, but to turn it into a campaign ad is one of the most despicable things you can do.’ Campaigning in Portsmouth, New Hampshire, Mr Romney responded to a shouted question by a reporter by saying: ‘Even Jimmy Carter would have given that order.’ A serving SEAL Team member said: ‘Obama wasn’t in the field, at risk, carrying a gun. As president, at every turn he should be thanking the guys who put their lives on the line to do this. He does so in his official speeches because he speechwriters are smart. ‘But the more he tries to take the credit for it, the more the ground operators are saying, “Come on, man!” It really didn’t matter who was president. At the end of the day, they were going to go.’ Chris Kyle, a former SEAL sniper with 160 confirmed and another 95 unconfirmed kills to his credit, said: ‘The operation itself was great and the nation felt immense pride. It was great that we did it. ‘But bin Laden was just a figurehead. The war on terror continues. Taking him out didn’t really change anything as far as the war on terror is concerned and using it as a political attack is a cheap shot. ‘In years to come there is going to be information that will come out that Obama was not the man who made the call. He can say he did and the people who really know what happened are inside the Pentagon, are in the military and the military isn’t allowed to speak out against the commander- in-chief so his secret is safe.’ Senior military figures have said that Admiral William McRaven, a former SEAL who was then head of Joint Special Operations Command (JSOC) made the decision to take bin Laden out. Tactical decisions were delegated even further down the chain of command. Mr Kyle added: ‘He's trying to say that Romney wouldn't have made the same call? Anyone who is patriotic to this country would have made that exact call, Democrat or Republican. Obama is taking more credit than he is due but it's going to get him some pretty good mileage.’ A former intelligence official who was serving in the US government when bin Laden was killed said that the Obama administration knew about the al-Qaeda leader’s whereabouts in October 2010 but delayed taking action and risked letting him escape. ‘In the end, Obama was forced to make a decision and do it. He knew that if he didn’t do it the political risks in not taking action were huge. Mitt Romney would have made the call but he would have made it earlier – as would George W. Bush.’ Brandon Webb, a former SEAL who spent 13 years on active duty and served in Iraq and Afghanistan, said: ‘Bush should get partial credit for putting the system in place. ‘Obama inherited a very robust package with regards to special ops and the intelligence community. But Obama deserves credit because he got bin Laden – you can’t take that away from him. ‘My friends that work in Special Operations Command (SOCOM) that have been on video teleconferences with Obama on these kill or capture situations say that Obama has no issue whatsoever with making decisions and typically it's kill. He’s hitting the kill button every time. I have a lot of respect for him for that.’ But he said that many SEALs were dismayed about the amount of publicity the Obama administration had generated about SEAL Team Six, the very existence of which is highly classified. ‘The majority of the SEALs I know are really proud of the operation but it does become “OK, enough is enough – we’re ready to get back to work and step out of the limelight.” They don’t want to be continuously paraded around a global audience like a show dog. ‘Obama has a very good relationship with the Special Operations community at large, especially the SEALs, and it’s nice to see. We had the same relationship with George W. Bush when he was president.’ It was ‘stretching a little much’ for Mr Obama to suggest only he would have made the decision. ‘I personally I don't think Romney would have any problem making tough decisions. He got a very accomplished record of making decision as a business professional. ‘He may not have charisma but he clearly has leadership skills. I don’t think he'd have any problem taking that decision.’ Clint Bruce, who gave up the chance of an NFL career to serve as a SEAL officer before retiring as a lieutenant after nine years, said: ‘We were extremely surprised and discouraged by the publicity because it compromises the ability of those guys to operate. ‘It’s a waste of time to speculate about who would and wouldn’t have made that decision. It was a symphony of opportunity and intelligence that allowed this administration to give the green light. We want to acknowledge that they made that decision. ‘Politicians should let the public know where they stand on national security but not in the play-by-play, detailed way that has been done recently. The intricacies of national security should not become part of stump speeches.’ Read more: www.dailymail.co.uk/news/...mpaign.html#ixzz1tcmKzVdA
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#6. To: mcgowanjm (#1)
Never did get a story that made sense....;} He died due to lung problems in December, 2001. His obituary: It was reported by Fox News (here): "The Coalition troops are engaged in a mad search operation but they would never be able to fulfill their cherished goal of getting Usama alive or dead," the source said. Bin Laden, according to the source, was suffering from a serious lung complication and succumbed to the disease in mid-December, in the vicinity of the Tora Bora mountains. The source claimed that bin Laden was laid to rest honorably in his last abode and his grave was made as per his Wahabi belief. The "I got bin Laden" story is all a complete fabrication. Typical for our police-state masters...
Sig of LoonyMing: Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady Yes. OBL has never made any sense except as a CIA patsy. Neither has 9/11, except as a false flag. All coming to an end now as a new Meme is presented.
Then you are almost certainly wrong. All tenses are correct. * Bin Laden: Everyone Is Missing the Big Picture Posted by: George Washington Post date: 04/30/2012 - 21:11 Obama and Romney Are Both Ignoring the Real Issue with Killing Bin Laden
What is the new one?
all a non story for an event that did not happen. anyone outside the dimtard circle jerk would do best to ignore it and "the story" will die in a few days as it rightly should.
(posting anything TO Brain Shit is pointless....rather posting derisively AT him makes sense)
I don't know what the 'George' Washington Post is but The Washington Post search did not yield Obama and Romney Are Both Ignoring the Real Issue with Killing Bin Laden so perhaps you can provide a hot link. As it stands, your statements just don't make sense: Who is claiming he is alive?
What do you read? Bin Laden: Everyone Is Missing the Big Picture | ZeroHedge http://www.zerohedge.com › Blogs › George Washington's blogCached http://www.zerohedge.com/contrib...ryone-missing-big-picture 7 hours ago – Laden1 Bin Laden: Everyone Is Missing the Big Picture Painting by Anthony ... Posted by: George Washington ... George Washington's picture ... And a BTW, Hup. I will never ever except in the the extremis ever link to WaPo....just sayin'...;}
Good Question. imagine the Decade of the 70's on steroids. By the end of this one, cars and Happy Motoring will be a distant memory....for example. The USSA will have collapsed. Our colonies will be gone.
Thank you for the link. The site loads badly for me but I still don't know what your comments mean.
IF he's dead why are we still in the Afghans? "The actual evidence which would reveal what the administration is actually doing, what the results of these drone attacks actually are, continue to be concealed (based on the administration’s long-standing insistence to courts that it cannot safely even confirm or deny the existence of the drone program, even though Brennan did exactly that yesterday: "the United States Government conducts targeted strikes against specific al-Qa’ida terrorists, sometimes using remotely piloted aircraft, often referred to publicly as drones"). In lieu of evidence and oversight, we are asked, instead, to simply place our faith in John Brennan and his claims, judgment and magnanimity. Brennan himself — like Rodriguez — was a Bush-era CIA agent who expressly advocated "enhanced interrogation techniques" (short of waterboarding) and rendition. He also has a history of demonstrated lying about the civilian deaths from U.S. drones and spouting blatant, narrative-shaping falsehoods about the killing of Osama bin Laden. What possible justification exists for placing our blind faith in his unverifiable pronouncements, or more so, vesting him with the unchecked and secret power of life and death, imprisonment and freedom?
Milwaukee Red Cross notified to get ready for the Evac of Chicago. Red Zone created for NATO Invasion...;} Looking for first Drone Strike i the USSA proper...;} "As I noted last week — and as Pierce elaborated on — the real scandal from the Jose Rodriguez book tour is that the Obama DOJ has protected him and his fellow criminals from all forms of accountability. Yesterday, Democratic Sen. Diane Feinstein (The banality of evil) issued a statement about his 60 Minutes interview matter-of-factly stating that his order to destroy videotapes "illustrates a blatant disregard for the law." Yes, obviously it does: and that’s what makes the DOJ’s refusal to prosecute him so corrupt. Of course, Executive Branch officials, even when it comes to most egregious crimes, are beyond the rule of law when it comes to actions they take as part of U.S. Government policy.
And just in case of inquiries....;} Concerns About NATO Summit Violence Leave Chicago Guessing ... chicago.cbslocal.com/2012...t-security-chicago/Cached 2 days ago – A Red Cross memo out of Milwaukee indicates that there is. Officials there have been asked to make plans to assist residents in the event of a ... Red Cross Told To Be Ready For Chicago Evacuation During NATO Summit…
We do not know what happened to OBL.
Oh, okay; I have suggested that if the raid is true and if they disposed at sea, did they at least have the foresight to collect DNA to see if the little kids from the compound reportedly born post 9/11 are OBL's and one of his 'new' wives. I agree and like the JFK assassination I seriously doubt we ever will really know. It does piss me off that obamamamadingdong might.
We'll know. Someone's always got to do CYA. Like RFK two shooters per CNN.
I saw that news headline but I didn't dig for the details of it. Shame on me.
All you need to know. And I'm betting the Arkansas Derby Winner to take the ' Kentucky....;} And that was before I saw this. I'm doubling up if an Arkansas jockey is riding....8D 1. Bodemeister and Union Rags favored in 138th Kentucky Derby MiamiHerald.com - 9 hours ago Arkansas Derby winner Bodemeister and Union Rags head the field for Saturday's 138th running of the Kentucky Derby at Churchill Downs. 1. Bodemeister draws post 6 for Derby ESPN - 3 hours ago
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_E._Smith One good friend likes Bodemeister too. Another friend is a big Mike Smith fan. Good luck!
Mike Smith's riding Bodemeister? Load the boat. I bet Mike all day long at Oaklawn. A Pat Day/Mike Smith exacta box never did pay that much....;} With Calvin Borel to show.
I'm going with Alpha #11 with Rajiv Maragh in the irons. It's a hunch bet - I liked the name when I saw it.
Ever see Big Red race when you were younger?
No, I've only adopted the horse racing bug in the past six years. I'm mostly an observer and occasional bettor.
Ever go to River Downs? That is the only place I've ever seen a horse race. They are supposed to be building a horse track here in Dayton.
I must admit that though we owned horses in Connecticut I have never been into the racing aspect. I saw the Disney movie on Red and watched the videos on You Tube and find I am awe struck at just how incredible a horse he was.
Seattle Slew was better. He sired the best of the best. Is stone trying to engage me?
Yeah, it's a low budget track with crappy televisions.
I just ate, I can't deal with a thought like that until my food is a wee bit more digested. Unless you mean engage in conversation. I'm not sure if he is.
I've probably been there 3 times. Not for about 15 years though.
Bet the #11 horse in the 11th race tomorrow at Churchill Downs.
I don't bet to much Blackjack is fun.
Bet #11 to show if you've got no balls on the win bet.
I wouldn't know how to if I wanted to. I'd have to search out a website and all kinds of stuff. I'd rather save my money and buy a big mac or go shopping at Walmart. :)
You're an A-hole, but you made me laugh, so thanks. Screw Wally World.
Which name. Alpha or Rajiv? ;}
BTW, speaking of hunches, if I don't bet an Oaklawn jockey, I go with someone from Louisiana. If no one from either, I go with the Mexican/Latino.....;}
Blackjack is fun. Finally....8D I knew there was something we had in common.
Bettor (sic) bet. Pair your longshot with the fave in an exacta box.
Thanks for the free advice. I lost less than I normally do. Your choice, Bodemeister, hit the board and ran like a freight train into the stretch...and then got caught. He'll likely be the fave in the Preakness if he runs in it. Good pick!
Lulz...8D I'd go with a Union Rags/Bodemeister exacta in the Preakness. Rags got boxed in early. I do love feeding the ponies....;}
I saw that Union Rags will skip the Preakness. I'll guess they're going to have him ready for the Belmont Stakes.
So tell me how Obama died again?
Usama bin Laden has died a peaceful death due to an untreated lung complication, the Pakistan Observer reported, citing a Taliban leader who allegedly attended the funeral of the Al Qaeda leader.
The economy is wonderful!
Re-elect Obama, he'll pay your rent!
A chicken in every pot!
-- Baghdad Bri-bri --
Translation: IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH
#7. To: A K A Stone (#5)
It is my opinion that Osama was dead pre 911. He died of Kidney failure at that hospital.
#8. To: harrowup (#4)
I am almost certain you meant to use another tense.
#9. To: mcgowanjm (#7)
All coming to an end now as a new Meme is presented.
#10. To: A K A Stone (#5)
#11. To: mcgowanjm (#8)
So if Bin Laden is alive, American leaders have to explain why they have repeatedly chosen not to pull the trigger.
And if he is dead, they have to explain why they are claiming that he’s alive and authenticating his videos.
#12. To: harrowup (#11)
I don't know what the 'George' Washington Post is
#13. To: Fred Mertz (#9)
What is the new one?
#14. To: mcgowanjm (#12)
#15. To: harrowup (#11)
(Edited)
Who is claiming he is alive?
#16. To: All (#15)
#17. To: All (#16)
#18. To: harrowup (#14)
The site loads badly for me but I still don't know what your comments mean.
#19. To: mcgowanjm (#18)
We do not know what happened to OBL.
#20. To: harrowup (#19)
agree and like the JFK assassination I seriously doubt we ever will really know.
#21. To: mcgowanjm (#20)
Like RFK two shooters per CNN.
#22. To: Fred Mertz (#21)
(Edited)
Like RFK two shooters per CNN.
#23. To: mcgowanjm (#22)
Michael Earl "Mike" Smith (born August 10, 1965, in Roswell, New Mexico) is an American jockey who has been one of the leading riders in U.S. thoroughbred racing since the early 1990s.
#24. To: Fred Mertz (#23)
(Edited)
One good friend likes Bodemeister too. Another friend is a big Mike Smith fan.
#25. To: mcgowanjm (#24)
#26. To: Fred Mertz (#25)
#27. To: Ferret Mike (#26)
#28. To: Fred Mertz (#27)
#29. To: Fred Mertz (#27)
#30. To: Ferret Mike (#29)
#31. To: A K A Stone (#28)
Ever go to River Downs?
#32. To: Fred Mertz (#30)
"Is stone trying to engage me?"
#33. To: Fred Mertz (#31)
Yeah, it's a low budget track with crappy televisions.
#34. To: A K A Stone (#33)
#35. To: Fred Mertz (#34)
#36. To: A K A Stone (#35)
#37. To: Fred Mertz (#36)
#38. To: A K A Stone (#37)
#39. To: Fred Mertz (#25)
I liked the name when I saw it.
#40. To: Fred Mertz (#25)
#41. To: A K A Stone, Fred Mertz (#35)
I don't bet to much
#42. To: Fred Mertz (#36)
Bet #11 to show if you've got no balls on the win bet.
#43. To: mcgowanjm (#42)
Pair your longshot with the fave in an exacta box.
#44. To: Fred Mertz (#43)
I lost less than I normally do.
#45. To: mcgowanjm (#44)
I'd go with a Union Rags/Bodemeister exacta in the Preakness.
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