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Title: Nolu Chan's Posts Removed From The Internet
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Published: Apr 28, 2012
Author: A K A Stone
Post Date: 2012-04-28 10:40:30 by A K A Stone
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Views: 14327
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All of Nolu Chans posts at the nest are not visible to the public anymore. He has been censored. If fact everyone who posts at that site has had their posts hidden from the world.

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#1. To: A K A Stone, Nolu Chan (#0)

All of Nolu Chans posts at the nest are not visible to the public anymore. He has been censored. If fact everyone who posts at that site has had their posts hidden from the world.

I wonder why he's not over here then?

Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET

mininggold  posted on  2012-04-28   10:50:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: All (#1)

We should know better than to believe anything you post.

I just went over there without registering and was able to search all his posts.

Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET

mininggold  posted on  2012-04-28   10:55:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: A K A Stone (#0)

What is 'the nest'?

We The People  posted on  2012-04-28   10:55:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: A K A Stone (#0)

Where do you come up with this stuff?

Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady

lucysmom  posted on  2012-04-28   11:28:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: A K A Stone (#0)

All of Nolu Chans posts at the nest are not visible to the public anymore. He has been censored. If fact everyone who posts at that site has had their posts hidden from the world.

Nothing personal but it is more likely you have been censored since I can still read the repetitious monologue.

harrowup  posted on  2012-04-28   11:48:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: A K A Stone (#0)

Are you making things up again?

I'll bet you'll next tell us that lucysmom and mininggold are a single poster.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2012-04-28   12:53:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Fred Mertz (#6)

Oh please, nobody could be that silly.

Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady

lucysmom  posted on  2012-04-28   13:24:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Fred Mertz (#6) (Edited)

I'll bet you'll next tell us that lucysmom and mininggold are a single poster.

Well, their menopause symptoms are in sync.

Truth in disclosure I must add that it could be just group hysteria.

harrowup  posted on  2012-04-28   13:46:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: harrowup (#8)

Have you picked a Derby horse yet? It is a wide open race as I see it. Lady luck must be on my side with Alpha - he doesn't have a jockey yet and had an infection about two weeks ago so he might scratch. We'll see.

I hate to be a chalk chaser but I'll likely also bet on Union Rags.

My handicapper pal said I'm crazy but I'm predicting the winner goes on to win the Triple Crown - whoever it is.

4 friends like Bodemeister, I'll Have Another, Dullahan and Mark Valeski.

I think I will have another...

Fred Mertz  posted on  2012-04-28   13:53:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: harrowup (#8)

Truth in discloure

Homie don't know French.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2012-04-28   13:54:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: harrowup (#8)

Well, their menopause symptoms are in sync.

Truth in discloure I must add that it could be just group hysteria.

So, are you having menopausal symptoms from your CA TX?

Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET

mininggold  posted on  2012-04-28   14:04:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Fred Mertz (#9)

4 friends like Bodemeister, I'll Have Another, Dullahan and Mark Valeski.

I'll take Gemologist.

Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET

mininggold  posted on  2012-04-28   14:08:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: mininggold (#12)

My friend's daughter worked in a jewelry store for a few years and that's her pick too. Being undefeated is another plus.

I'll not be at all surprised by the outcome of the Kentucky Derby.

A couple of years ago another friend bet a 3 horse exacta and won money. Had he bet the trifecta his winnings would have quadrupled (or better, I don't recall) because his 3 picks hit the board.

I should give him a call...

Fred Mertz  posted on  2012-04-28   14:13:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: mininggold (#11)

So, are you having menopausal symptoms from your CA TX?

While, as a professional, I have never accepted the mantra of the good old boy OB/GYNees that menopause was a mental condition, having experienced hot flashes gave me a very personal and helpful understanding just how unpleasant menopause can be. I didn't find sore nipples to be much of a turn on either.

So you can rack this old fart misogynist as sympathetic to aging females. I am still not patient with younger females who allow their menstrual cycle to be an excuse for ill manners.

harrowup  posted on  2012-04-28   14:28:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Fred Mertz (#10)

Homie don't know French.

Thank you; all fixed.

As to the derby, I'm pretty down given a series of nearby stable fires killing nearly a hundred horses in the past few weeks including a jockey who lived in one of them.

I just know some son-of-a-bitch has torched their horses for the insurance and I hope they are burned at the stake.

harrowup  posted on  2012-04-28   14:34:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: harrowup (#15)

Sad story; I feel your empathy. I love animals...but not in a Mad Dog way.

Do goats have personalities?

Fred Mertz  posted on  2012-04-28   14:42:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Fred Mertz (#16)

Do goats have personalities?

Oh, my. Do they ever. They are naturally curious and mischievous. They communicate with one another when they want to play tricks on others and especially if they want to fool the human. I swear when I see them wink, I check my back.

harrowup  posted on  2012-04-28   14:49:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: A K A Stone (#0)

Nolu Chan's Posts Removed From The Internet

If only.

A movie about the losing VP candidate is called "The Undefeated"?

Bartcoprules  posted on  2012-04-28   16:20:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: mininggold (#12)

We have this local guy George who never stops talking.

I told him to bet on Done Talking.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2012-04-28   16:42:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: A K A Stone (#0)

Nolu Chan

I remember you welcoming him here, but I don't remember him posting a lot.

On which site was he censored?


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jwpegler  posted on  2012-04-28   16:55:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: jwpegler (#20)

He probably died drooling over the head bung hole !

If you ... don't use exclamation points --- you should't be typeing ! Commas - semicolons - question marks are for girlie boys !

BorisY  posted on  2012-04-28   18:11:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: BorisY (#21)

He probably died drooling over the head bung hole !

I almost always know what you mean with your cryptic style but you've stumped me on this one.

Help?

harrowup  posted on  2012-04-28   19:03:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: harrowup (#22)

The crissy matthews leg - crotch tinglies got his brown nose - mouth - tongue to explode !

If you ... don't use exclamation points --- you should't be typeing ! Commas - semicolons - question marks are for girlie boys !

BorisY  posted on  2012-04-29   8:55:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: A K A Stone (#0)

I remember that screen name,but no details about the poster or what he posted.

What is the nest and why would they hide all the posts ever made there?

"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011

Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs

Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter.

sneakypete  posted on  2012-04-30   10:31:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: harrowup (#8)

Well, their menopause symptoms are in sync.

Truth in disclosure I must add that it could be just group hysteria.

There's a difference?

"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011

Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs

Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter.

sneakypete  posted on  2012-04-30   10:33:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: sneakypete (#24)

What is the nest and why would they hide all the posts ever made there?

Stone calls The People's Forum the nest, I suppose because the owner/moderator is Robin, plus it doesn't get a whole bunch of traffic. I visit it daily for the headlines and sometimes the discussions although I don't post much. Robin banned Stone there for his potty mouth and other reasons. He is jealous and jilted.

The site is up as far as I can tell. See for yourself.

the-peoples-forum.com/cgi-bin/latestcomments.cgi

Fred Mertz  posted on  2012-04-30   10:44:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: sneakypete (#25)

"Well, their menopause symptoms are in sync. Truth in disclosure I must add that it could be just group hysteria."

There's a difference?

Now that is funny and I'm pleased there is at least one other poster here who will be lumped into the misogynist category by mingluck.

harrowup  posted on  2012-04-30   11:16:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: Fred Mertz (#26)

See for yourself.

Nope. Can't do it. Nobody can view any of the posts unless they are registered there,and I refuse to register there.

"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011

Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs

Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter.

sneakypete  posted on  2012-04-30   11:30:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: sneakypete (#28)

Okay, my error.

I understand not wanting to register. I'm very reluctant to add another user name and password to my knapsack even if it is free.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2012-04-30   11:36:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: sneakypete (#28)

I vaguely recall that you posted there a long time ago. I recall you got gang banged and then your account was restricted to something like 5 posts a day. And then you departed. I didn't enjoy seeing that happen to you.

Is my memory approximately correct? I'm getting older you know.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2012-04-30   11:40:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: Fred Mertz (#29)

LOL.

Error: Account Retired

Our records show you have requested your account be retired.

If you have questions, please contact the Site Owner.

BTW I didn't request to have my 'account be retired' but should have long ago.

Nolo fucked that place up 'but good'...

{{{chuckle}}}

Never swear "allegiance" to anything other than the 'right to change your mind'!

Brian S  posted on  2012-04-30   14:05:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: Brian S (#31)

Nolo fucked that place up 'but good'...

{{{chuckle}}}

As he has every where else he has ever infested with his bullshit.

harrowup  posted on  2012-04-30   14:18:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: harrowup (#32)

Have you got a Derby horse yet?

Fred Mertz  posted on  2012-04-30   14:24:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: Fred Mertz (#33) (Edited)

...Derby horse...?

No; I'm not going to watch any more horse races until they clean out the criminal element (again).

harrowup  posted on  2012-04-30   14:36:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: harrowup (#34) (Edited)

My Dad feels the same as you do.

If there's money (Edit: involved) then there is likely something crooked going on.

He's wise.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2012-04-30   14:41:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: Brian S (#31)

Error: Account Retired

You got banned there. I never would have thought you would be banned there.

I doube Chan banned you. I happen to know that he asks Robin before doing such a thing. At least in wars case. But he said Robin already took action.

How do you think Chan screwed it up?

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-04-30   18:25:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: Fred Mertz (#26)

Robin banned me because she bans all conservatives. I posted an article by Jhoffa_. That is why she banned me. That is ok because I don't like her anyway. I was just there to screw with the dumbasses. I consider pretty much everyone there a dumb ass. Except Chan. Destro is ok too but he is kind of goofy.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-04-30   18:28:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: Fred Mertz (#30)

I vaguely recall that you posted there a long time ago. I recall you got gang banged and then your account was restricted to something like 5 posts a day. And then you departed. I didn't enjoy seeing that happen to you.

Is my memory approximately correct?

That is exactly correct. They do not want to hear a discouraging word over there. They just stick their fingers in their ears and scream "neener! neener! neener!" until the outsider quits talking.

I had forgotten the name of that web site until you reminded me.

I'm getting older you know.

Me,too. As bad as it sucks,getting older is still usually better than the alternative.

"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011

Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs

Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter.

sneakypete  posted on  2012-04-30   20:46:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: A K A Stone (#37)

Destro is ok too but he is kind of goofy.

You are an expert on goofy.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2012-04-30   21:10:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: sneakypete (#38)

I had forgotten the name of that web site until you reminded me.

It actually wasn't that long ago...I looked it up. Jan 2011 or so.

That thread had over 15,000 hits. You're a Rock Star!

Fred Mertz  posted on  2012-04-30   22:25:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: Fred Mertz (#40)

That thread had over 15,000 hits.

You're kidding?

No doubt 14,998 of them were from posters agreeing about how horrible I am,and the other two were by you and Ferret Mike.

Who says I can't unite people?

"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011

Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs

Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter.

sneakypete  posted on  2012-04-30   23:12:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: Nolu chan (#32) (Edited)

As he has every where else he has ever infested with his bullshit.

LOL.

You and your psychotic donkey are legendary, professor.

VxH  posted on  2018-07-30   1:01:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: VxH (#42)

Damn, you are one incompetent yukon fuckstick.

15 minutes after this old 2012 thread was started, mininggold reported the falsehood of the thread story at post #2.

https://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=29748&Disp=2#C2

#2. To: All (#1)

We should know better than to believe anything you post.

I just went over there without registering and was able to search all his posts.

Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET

mininggold posted on 2012-04-28 10:55:26 ET

You are a dishonorable asshole and pathetic loser who is incapable of telling the truth....

... in addition to being a lying sack of shit fraud who claimed to know the Einsteinian math of the General and Special theory of relativity, and the theoretical math of time travel, and calculus, while you have actually demonstrated for all to see that you are incapable of using the high school trig necessary to solve for two sides of a right triangle given one side and one acute angle.

If lying were a crime, you would be a bigger crook than Hillary.

https://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=56433&Disp=71#C71

https://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=56523&Disp=63#C63

https://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=56545&Disp=47#C47

Like the intellectual whore that you are, you want to start all over as a virgin and peddle your wares on a new street corner.

I was invited to post on LF when it started up, but I declined at that time. I was invited again in 2011 when your alter ego yukon was watching gay porn and posting at the same and managed to post gay porn. I was destroying the yukon bullshit excuses on TPF (The People's Forum), aka The Nest. As my posts from TPF were being cross-posted and discussed over here, I came over and posted direct. Also, yukon and the numbnuts brigade said I was afraid to face them. There is nothing like a good challenge from a group of incompetent assholes.

https://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=23007&Disp=0#C0

Title: Welcome Nolu Chan
Source: [None]
URL Source: [None]
Published: Aug 11, 2011
Author: A K A Stone
Post Date: 2011-08-11 17:46:58 by A K A Stone
Keywords: None
Views: 313665
Comments: 437

Welcome Nolu Chan.

https://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=19063&Disp=1#C1

Title: Yukon Posts Gay Porn Link as His "Favorite Website" Over on LP by mistake and Goldi is not around to delete it
Source: libertypost.org
URL Source: http://libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=305216&Disp=0#C0
Published: Mar 27, 2011
Author: Yukon
Post Date: 2011-03-27 17:03:49 by Godwinson
Keywords: None
Views: 23663
Comments: 40

Title: New favorite website Source: Gun broker URL Source: http://www.lovethecock.com/ Published: Mar 27, 2011 Author: yukon Post Date: 2011-03-27 01:39:54 by yukon Views: 1343 Comments: 162

For shooting and killing. Addicting and no libturds!

Click for Full Text!

#1. To: Goldi-Lox (#0)

I used the wrong link.

http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=11418&Disp=35

Title: Goldi Wisely Bans Yukon From Posting Gay Porn, Calls Him a Major Distraction (Yukon Vows to Continue)
Source: [None]
URL Source: http://libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=293080&Disp=36#C36
Published: Jul 22, 2010
Author: Goldi
Post Date: 2010-07-22 11:57:12 by Biff Tannen
Keywords: Yukon, Gay Porn
Views: 15781
Comments: 42

Or at least I'm expecting him to vow to continue. He can't stop.

#36. To: yukon (#11)

you posted a link with porn.

no more photos for you as of now.

I am tired of the fights.

shape up or ship out.

we are in a battle for our county -- and you are a major distraction.

Goldi-Lox posted on 2010-07-22 10:51:53 ET

Poster Comment:

How will he handle this. I think it will hurt his feelings. It's about time she stopped him for posting gay porn.

- - - - - - - - - -

EVOLVING EXPLANATIONS

To clarify the course of excuses, yukon (the real yukon, or his hacker, or whomever) FIRST floated the excuse that he simply had too many browsers open and posted the wrong link.

#3. To: Argus (#2)

This calls for banishment!

For having too many browsers open, kook?

yukon posted on 2011-03-27 2:06:27 ET

On 3/27, We The People said, "Why do you think he hasn't defended himself? I at least expected some CT about someone hacking his computer, or something! But not a word in his own defense."

On 3/28, GeorgiaConservative offered, "Something like this will likely be the made-up-on-the-fly excuse when yukon sobers up and this thread is sent to the corn field. yukon: "my computer was hacked by a 'CT' truther and here is Goldi to confirm it!"

On 3/30, I'm Back/yukon stated: "There has been a malicious attack on the site and I hope whoever is responsible is tracked down and prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law."

[...]

nolu chan posted on 2011-08-23 4:02:09 ET

Remember all the fun we had when the asswipes claimed that the non-existent hacker's IPA was 95.154.230.291? It was a sad thing when I pointed out that the largest value in an IPv4 adddress was 255.

The good old days. You sure you want to go there? I have quite an archive.

http://libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=305216&Disp=All&#C240 [deleted thread]

Title: yukon comes out of the closet and admits he is gay (like most gay hating Republicans)
Source: libertypost.org
URL Source: http://libertypost.org/cgi-bin/read ... i?ArtNum=305216&Disp=All&#C240
Published: Mar 27, 2011
Author: yukon
Post Date: 2011-03-27 20:40:03 by Destro
Keywords: None
Views: 6680
Comments: 439

Drop it. I'm tired of hiding it anyway.

yukon posted on 2011-03-27 18:41:52 ET

Both times were unintentional. A trap hotlink and a failed ctrl+c on the gun broker one. Though this time it was a blessing that removed a large weight from me.

yukon posted on 2011-03-27 19:14:32 ET

#250. To: 22rifle (#245)

Are you actually a conservative or was that all an act? Nothing has been an act. I've never denied being gay.

yukon posted on 2011-03-27 19:25:37 ET

Ah those were the days. Jackasses such as yourself were watching gay porn and posting at the same time and you, I mean they, wound up posting gay porn. What a fucking super genius.

nolu chan  posted on  2018-07-30   10:06:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: nolu chan (#43)

LOL.

No wonder you're a psychotic legend.

Hey, keep the hits coming!

VxH  posted on  2018-07-30   15:02:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: VxH (#44)

Hey, keep the hits coming!

As you request.

Two Sides were known:

338 elevation 1290.583333333 approximate distance to target on field.

5 tenths
8 hundredths
3 thousandths
3 ten thousandths
3 hundred thousandths
3 millionths
3 ten millionths
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So you scraped your known approximate distance off an outhouse wall, where the approximate distance was given to nine decimal places, or measured to the billionth of a foot. Get the fuck out of here.

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As for 1290.583333333 feet being a known approximate distance for the shooter, what source, or sources, did that figure come from, and why do you consider it so authoritative that you assume it as a given measure????

Did you scrape it off an outhouse wall at MIT, Rensselaer, or Cal Poly?

A Google search of "1290.583333333" hits nothing but the three current threads on Liberty's Flame.

Without quotation marks is the same.

1290.58 Las Vegas Shooter returns zero hits including 1290.58.

The only apparent source of your magic number, inaccurate to 9 decimal places, is yourself doing direct data entry of the bullshit magic number you invented.

When asked for your math, you sink to your usual yukon bullshit.

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Wikipedia, retrieved 28 July 2018.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_Las_Vegas_shooting

After Paddock used a hammer to break two of the windows in both of his suites,[4] he began shooting through them at 10:05 p.m.[26] He ultimately fired more than 1,100 rifle rounds[27] approximately 490 yards (450 m) into the festival audience.[28][29][30][c]

Approximately 490 yards is approximately 1470 feet.

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https://www.thespectrum.com/story/news/2017/10/05/las-vegas-shooting-four-common-questions-being-asked/736322001/

Las Vegas shooting: Answering 4 common questions

Lucas M Thomas, lthomas@dvtnv.com
Published 1:48 p.m. MT Oct. 5, 2017 | Updated 1:58 p.m. MT Oct. 5, 2017

[excerpt]

How far can rifle bullets travel, and how far away from the Mandalay Bay was the concert?

Clark County Sheriff Joseph Lombardo said the weapons found in Paddock's hotel room ranged in caliber from .223 to .308. The concert venue for the Route 91 Harvest Festival was approximately 1,100 feet away from the 32nd floor of the Mandalay Bay.

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https://www.latimes.com/nation/la-las-vegas-shooting-live-updates-the-trigonometry-of-terror-why-the-las-1507085772-htmlstory.html

The trigonometry of terror: Why the Las Vegas shooting was so deadly

By Geoffrey Mohan
Los Angeles Times
Oct 04, 2017 | 9:54 AM

Arthur B. Alphin is well acquainted with the trigonometry of terror.

The retired Army lieutenant colonel and West Point graduate, who has a mechanical engineering degree and specialized in ballistics, has testified in many multiple-shooting cases.

What he sees so far about Las Vegas shooter Stephen Paddock is a patient, well-trained gunner who did not pick and choose his targets, but held to a steady kill zone centered in the middle of thousands of concertgoers.

Once the trigger was pulled, simple laws of physics and trigonometry sealed the fate of more than 500 people who would fall wounded in the ensuing fracas — 59 of them fatally.

"He had a huge area of three, four or five football fields with people standing shoulder to shoulder," Alphin said. "He was not aiming at any individual person. He was just throwing bullets in a huge 'beaten zone.'"

Beaten zone is an infantry term dating to World War I. Shaped like the area a searchlight casts across a flat surface, it represents the area where bullets can strike, and moves substantially with tiny changes in the tilt of the gun.

If the shooter shifted by about 1 degree, or the width of two fingers held at arm's length, Alphin said, the beaten zone would fall outside the crowd.

"That's all the distance you have to move and you aren't hitting anybody," Alphin said. "So he had to be pointing or aiming at the very center of mass and then bouncing all over with the recoil."

From a perch 320 feet above ground in a hotel whose base was about 1,050 feet from the concert venue, Paddock was firing down the 1,098-foot hypotenuse of a right triangle — and would have to adjust his aim for the arc of the bullet over that distance.

[snip]

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https://www.bostonglobe.com/news/nation/2017/10/02/look-how-far-las-vegas-shooter-was-from-concert/RH1IbGWenXPuSGg84YfqXN/story.html

How far was the Las Vegas shooter from the concert?

October 02, 2017
As of 3:20 p.m. Wednesday

"About 1200 feet."

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http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/vegas-shooting-happened-100s-shots-1-200-feet-article-1.3536512

How the Las Vegas mass shooting happened — hundreds of shots from 1,200 feet away

By Jason Silverstein
NEW YORK DAILY NEWS
Oct 02, 2017 | 4:38 PM

The gunman who killed at least 58 people and injured more than 500 at an outdoor Las Vegas concert Sunday fired hundreds of rounds from an automatic rifle within mere minutes — and from more than 1,000 feet away.

[snip]

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http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/politics/2017/10/why_the_las_vegas_shooting_was_a_nightmare_scenario_for_police_and_security.html

The second lesson from Las Vegas is that the geometry of Paddock’s attack rendered security measures ineffective—even those of Las Vegas, a city with thousands of armed police and security guards on duty around the clock, surveillance cameras covering nearly every inch of ground, and a sophisticated police department with a robust SWAT capability. Paddock apparently fired on concertgoers from a room on the 32nd story of the Mandalay Bay hotel, across the street and approximately 400 meters from the concert.

400 meters is approximately 1312.3 feet.

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https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/02/us/las-vegas-mass-shooting-weapons.html

Gunman’s Vantage Point and Preparations Opened the Way for Mass Slaughter

By C. J. Chivers, Thomas Gibbons-Neff and Adam Goldman

Oct. 2, 2017

From his hotel room on the 32nd floor of the Mandalay Bay Resort and Casino in Las Vegas, Stephen Paddock would have looked down upon a crowd of more than 20,000 people, surging to the final sets of a country music festival.

He opened fire late Sunday, killing at least 59 people and injuring 527 others in one of the deadliest mass shootings in American history, the authorities said.

But what may have seemed like a difficult feat, firing across an urban area and into a crowd from about 500 yards away — the equivalent of several football fields — appears to have been offset by Mr. Paddock’s preparations, which made it possible for him to inflict mass carnage.

[snip]

About 500 yards away is about 1500 feet away.

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For an actual KNOWN distance, where angle A is 14.70°, and side a of a right triangle is 338 feet,

tan A = tan(14.70) = 0.2623450889 = opp/adj = a/b

0.2623450889 = 338/b

b = 338 / 0.2623450889

b = 1288.379369

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Or,

tan B = tan(75.30) = 3.81177328 = opp/adj = b/a

3.81177328 = b/338

b = 338 * 3.81177328

b = 1288.379369

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side b is not approximately 1290.58 to any number of imaginary decimal places.

side b is 1288.379369.

For someone who claims abilities in Einstein's General and Special Theories of Relativity, Calculus, and the theoretical physics math of time travel, you exhibit an inability to do basic high school math when called upon to calculate the sides and angles of a right triangle with angle A of 14.70° and side a of 338 feet.

Your donkey sure has a hard time with details and decimal precision settings.

What a congenital fuckwit. You make up an incorrect side b to 9 decimal places of inaccuracy and imprecision, and fail to realize you still look like a monkey fucking a football in the middle of the stadium. Keep fucking that football. Keep demonstrating you can only talk about math but can't do it.

Approximate to 9 decimal places of inaccuracy! Approximate to the billionth of the wrong foot! You are good for comic relief.

nolu chan  posted on  2018-07-30   15:06:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: nolu chan (#45) (Edited)

LOL.

Nolu Psycho Donkey!

The Legend Continues.

VxH  posted on  2018-07-30   15:13:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: VxH (#46)

Tell us again how you derived side b.

nolu chan  posted on  2018-07-30   15:20:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: nolu chan (#47)

Asked and answered.

See if you can find where, Donkey-Shyte for Brains.

VxH  posted on  2018-07-30   15:26:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: VxH (#48)

Asked and answered.

Saying bullshit does not make it so. You have been unable or unwilling to explain how your derived your approximate distance of side b to 9 decimal places.

You are a pathetic liar and idiot. Do go on to entertain the village.

nolu chan  posted on  2018-07-30   16:41:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: nolu chan (#49)

You have been unable or unwilling to explain how your derived your approximate distance of side b to 9 decimal places.

Asked and answered.

But please do keep exemplifying your psychosis.

VxH  posted on  2018-07-31   9:20:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: VxH (#50)

Asked and answered.

I used Google Earth to measure the distance from the hotel to the center of the concert field.

You fucked up.

Google Earth which, unlike your psychosis, presents a reasonably good model of reality.

Given side a of 338 feet and angle A of 14.70, the other angles and side lengths are a mathematical certainty. Your horseshit does not work.

Your calculation IGNORES the given angle of elevation, angle a.

MATHEMATECAL CERTAINTY vs VxH BULLSHIT

Side was specified at 338 feet.

Angle A was specified at 14.70°, not 14.68.

MATHEMATICAL CERTAINTY

Angle B must be 75.30° to have a right triangle with angle A of 14.70°.

With angle A of 14.70°, side b must be 1288.379369 feet, NOT 1292.583333333 feet. Your side b is more than FOUR feet too long.

With angle a of 14.70°, side c must be 1331.978 feet, NOT 1334.1 feet. Your side c is more than TWO feet too long.

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You pulled your side b out of your ass and cannot explain how you derived your bullshit.

Rather than use the specified side of 338 feet and angle of 14.70°, you now change the angle of elevation to 14.68° after the fact to make it work with your bullshit triangle which does not work with 14.70°.

You were solving for a given angle of elevation of 14.70 degrees. You FAILED.

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MATHEMATICAL CERTAINTY FOR ANY RIGHT TRIANGLE WITH ANGLE A = 14.70°

SOH-CAH-TOA

sine = opp/hyp
cosine = adj/hyp
tangent = opp/adj

sin(14.70) = 0.253757945
cos(14.70) = 0.9672677528
tan(14.70) = 0.2623450889

sin(a) = sin(14.70) = 0.253757945 = opp/hyp
cos(a) = cos(14.70) = 0.9672677528 = adj/hyp
tan(a) = tan(14.70) = 0.2623450889 = opp/adj

= = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =

Using your sides of:

a = 338 feet
b = 1292.583333333 feet
c = 1331.978 feet

sin (a) = opp/hyp = 338/1331.978 = 0.253757945
cos(a) = adj/hyp = 1292.583333333/1331.978 = 0.97042399359
tan(a) = opp/adj = 338/1292.583333333 = 0.2614918445

In all cases, your sides fail to match the known value for sin, cos, or tan of 14.70°. The calculations do not work because your manufactured side values are too long to be compatible with the specified values of angle A and side a.

The short explanation is the sides of your triangle are bullshit and mathmatically impossible with the sides you supposedly derived with some as yet explanation for the impossible side b, used to calculate the impossible side c.

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Your triangle having been proven to be bullshit, your solution was to provide a cartoon on a triangle calculation showing an angle A of 14.68 degrees.

As the specified angle of elevation was given as 14.70 degrees, your cartoon triangle is bullshit, demonstrating only your dishonesty and inability to do basic high school math.

nolu chan  posted on  2018-07-31   22:57:00 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: nolu chan (#51)

As the specified angle of elevation was given as 14.70 degrees

14.7 which is 14.68, rounded to 1 decimal.

Accurate enough to model the system in question...unless you're a psychotic Donkey Chan.

Keep that legend alive, Psycho Donkey!

VxH  posted on  2018-08-01   10:54:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: VxH (#52)

14.7 which is 14.68, rounded to 1 decimal.

Accurate enough to model the system in question...

You stated the angle was 33 degrees until I proved the bullet would splat into the ground closer to Paddock's big toe than the fairgrounds.

Because when VxH does triangle math, he shoots himself in the foot.

#139. To: VxH, A K A Stone (#138)

How you coming along with that Average Velocity for the 75 foot segment ending at 1950 ft?

It came along quite well. Anything that travels 1950 feet in 1.06 seconds travels an average velocity of 2122.64 feet per second. The formula is distance divided by time.

How are you coming along with your bullet going splat at ~520 feet ground distance from Mandalay Bay?

How did you work out that negative 33º angle?

Side a represents the vertical height of Paddock's vantage point. At the 32nd floor, and at 10.9 feet per floor, (32-1) x 10.9 = 338 feet.

The VxH specified shooting angle was -33°. This should probably be expressed as a positive angle of declination. Not all ballistic calculators will even accept a negative angle value, but specify 0 to 90 degrees.

For another calculator, see:

http://gundata.org/blog/post/223-ballistics-chart/

It appears that VxH drew an imaginary horizontal line d at a vertical height of 338 feet from the ground, and an imaginary 338 foot line e down to the ground, bringing into view a rectangle with a mirror image triangle to that above.

VxH guessed 33º as the acute angle formed at the junction of sides c and imaginary side d at point B. VxH guessed very wrongly.

With a specified shooting angle of 33º at the junction of lines c and d, the angle made by sides c and b would also be 33º, and angle ß, made by sides a and c would be 57º. (The right angle at point A is 90º. The other two angles must add up to 90º.)

With side a being 338 feet, side b would be 520.4743578 feet, and side c would be 620.5944 feet.

As may be seen, disregarding gravity, if the bullet flew downward at the specified 33º from a height of 338 feet, it would fly a straight line of sight path into the ground at ~520 feet from the Mandalay Bay at ground level.

Calculating the bullet velocity after that point may be difficult, even with secret Klingon math.

nolu chan  posted on  2017-11-07   16:13:45 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

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#179. To: nolu chan (#176) (Edited)

It appears that VxH drew an imaginary horizontal line d at a vertical height of 338 feet from the ground, and an imaginary 338 foot line e down to the ground, bringing into view a rectangle with a mirror image triangle to that above.

VxH guessed 33º as the acute angle formed at the junction of sides c and imaginary side d at point B. VxH guessed very wrongly.

Yep. You're almost right - I've been meaning to take another look at the angle with a model in Google Sketchup... which says At 1290' from a height of 338' is -14.7

so...

[...]

Of course, this had a 1009' 4" hypotenuse, unless you want to imagine the 338' radius of the circle is added to it, but then you get 1047' 4".

This led to later reimagining that the circle had a radius of 338' on one side and 324' 6" on the other side. Because VxH circle math works like his triangle math.

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VxH specified a new angle at 14.7°.

I used Google Earth to measure the distance from the hotel to the center of the concert field.

Of course, there is no evidence whatever that Paddock aimed at the center of the concert field. From his vantage point, the bandstand was nearest, that is where the people were crammed in, and that is where he first targeted.

Of course, VxH not only "measured" the distance from the hotel to the center of the concert field, he did so to 9 decimal places. He "measured" to 9 decimal places by allegedly and arbitrarily sticking two points on a google map. Praise be to VxH math. Stupid is as stupid does, as stupid posts.

The people were packed into the forward area by the band stand, not in the rear half of the field, away from the band stand.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c799JltHhG0

Of course, now the reader must prepare for the measurement to have really, really have been to the front of the fairground where the people were packed in by the band stand.

Note above that the VxH red line starts in the wrong area of Mandalay Bay hotel. Paddock was on the right hand corner of the building.

Note from the wiki image below where the bullet strikes were occurring, which is not near where the VxH line measures to.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_Las_Vegas_shooting#/media/File:Las_Vegas_Strip_shooting.svg

Of course, now the reader must prepare for Paddock to have really, really shot from the middle of the Mandalay Bay wing, and to the middle of the fairground, rather than to where the people were packed in.

nolu chan  posted on  2018-08-01   16:10:28 ET  (4 images) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: nolu chan (#53)

{yawn}

1290.5833 is a perfectly reasonable estimate for the distance between the hotel and the field.

Nolu Chan - The Psychotic Legend lives!

VxH  posted on  2018-08-01   16:52:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: VxH (#54)

Nolu Chan - The Psychotic Legend lives!

Banned everywhere but here.

Hmmmm....

Hondo68  posted on  2018-08-01   17:05:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: hondo68, A K A Stone (#55) (Edited)

Banned everywhere but here.

"Jews are Superior to you in every way." --A K A Stone posted on 2018-07-29

LOL. I'll try to remember that next time I'm salvaging the "architecture" some kinky haired progressa-princess pulled out of her poodle's arse.

VxH  posted on  2018-08-01   17:23:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: VxH (#54)

https://rense.com/general96/diagramcampos.html

The the floor length of a wing of the Mandalay Bay, not including the curved end where Steven Paddock had a suite, was 300 feet. Math wizard VxH puts the shooter about half way down the North wing, approximately 150 feet south of reality for the starting point of the shots.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2017/national/las-vegas-shooting/img/2300vegas-shooting-promo.jpg

As shown on the Washington Post map, the shots came from the corner of the Mandalay Bay, while math genius VxH located his red line starting point about 150 feet south of that point.

WAPO noted, "The venue is about 1,000 feet from the hotel."

As for the red-lined VxH photograph of Las Vegas, it is a photo with a red line drawn on it, and the number 1290.5833' typed and placed upon it.

It is evidence that VxH can copy a picture, put a misplaced red line on it, and place a number on it.

With the red line starting about 150 feet whack to the south, VxH nevertheless makes believe he measured the distance to an accuracy of four (4) decimal places, or to the ten-thousandth of a foot. Or as math genius VxH expresses his 150 foot error, {yawn}, which is one way to recognize the yawning gap between his bullshit and reality.

From his whacko bullshit, he generates side b to nine (9) decimal places of accuracy, and replaces the given angle of elevation of angle A, and, declaring "1290.5833 is a perfectly reasonable estimate for the distance between the hotel and the field," dismisses the side b distance required by math for angle A of 14.7 degrees and side a of 338 feet.

A line which starts about 150 feet whack to the south is a reasonable estimate of the VxH phychosis, give or take about a hundred feet or so, as long as it is expressed with at least four (4) decimal places on the end.

http://994ix2y62bo94ct3ok4zzrbe-wpengine.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/Las_Vegas_Shooter_Position.jpg

Another image with a different perspective showing the rounds did not originate anywhere near the middle of the north wing of Mandalay Bay.

nolu chan  posted on  2018-08-06   13:09:50 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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