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Title: Martin attorney: Zimmerman misled court about money
Source: CNN
URL Source: http://www.cnn.com/2012/04/27/justi ... man-money/index.html?hpt=hp_t1
Published: Apr 27, 2012
Author: CNN Wire Staff
Post Date: 2012-04-27 06:42:50 by Ferret Mike
Keywords: None
Views: 9566
Comments: 30

(CNN) -- The attorney for Trayvon Martin's family says George Zimmerman should be back in jail because he failed to tell a judge he had $204,000 during a recent bond hearing.

"They tried to portray themselves as indigent that they did not have any money," said Martin family attorney Benjamin Crump. "We think the court should revoke his bond immediately, and he should be held accountable for misleading the court."

Zimmerman, who is charged with second-degree murder in the fatal shooting of unarmed 17-year-old Martin, has been given about $204,000 from supporters his lawyer Mark O'Mara said Thursday.

The donations Zimmerman received will be discussed Friday at a court hearing in Florida, O'Mara said.

O'Mara told CNN's "AC360" that Zimmerman told him Wednesday of the donations as they were trying to shut down his Internet presence to avoid concerns about possible impersonators and problems with his Twitter and Facebook accounts.

"He asked me what to do with his PayPal accounts, and I asked him what he was talking about," O'Mara told Anderson Cooper. "He said those were the accounts that had the money from the website he had. And there was about ... $204,000 that had come in to date." Discussing Zimmerman's finances Zimmerman raises over $200,000 online The gun laws where you live Will Sanford politics affect case?

O'Mara had said earlier this month that he believed Zimmerman had no money. "I think he's indigent for costs," he said, adding that Zimmerman's relatives had few assets.

Zimmerman, 28, was released Monday on $150,000 bail, 10% of which his family put up to secure his release. He is accused in the February 26 death of Martin, who was African-American.

Critics have accused Zimmerman of racially profiling Martin and unjustly killing him. Zimmerman said he shot Martin in self-defense.

Asked whether knowledge of the money might have made a difference to Judge Kenneth Lester Jr., who presided at Zimmerman's bond hearing, O'Mara said, "It might have."

O'Mara continued, "I'm certainly going to disclose it to the court tomorrow -- coincidentally, we have a hearing."

The hearing was originally scheduled to discuss issues about the unsealing of Zimmerman's criminal file, but the donations could overshadow that issue.

Crump said Zimmerman's failure to reveal that he had the money shows that he is being dishonest.

"If his testimony at the bond hearing is any indication of what is to come, then the lying has already begun," Crump said.

O'Mara said he was prepared to "deal with any fallout," but predicted Lester would not feel misled. "I told him what I knew at the time, which was exactly what I was aware of."

The money has been placed in a secure account since O'Mara learned about it, he said, adding, "Nobody's touching it until we figure out how to handle it."

But criminal defense attorney Mark Geragos said Lester might not react benignly. "I know a lot of judges who would remand the guy back into custody immediately," he said. "If you've got more money stashed in an account and you could just pay the bond and be gone, that gives a lot of judges concern."

Though the account has been closed, O'Mara said he intends to open a legal defense fund for Zimmerman. "I've had dozens, hundreds actually, of people wanting to donate," he said.

O'Mara, who said he charges $400 per hour for family law cases, estimated Zimmerman's defense costs could reach $1 million. "You can really go through a lot of money on a case like this, with the intensity of it," he said.

Although details of the shooting remain murky, it is known that Martin ventured out from the Sanford home of his father's fiancee and went to a nearby convenience store, where he bought a bag of candy and an iced tea. On his way back, he had a confrontation with Zimmerman, who shot him.

Zimmerman had called 911 to complain about a suspicious person in the neighborhood, according to authorities.

In the call, Zimmerman said he was following Martin after the teen started to run, prompting the dispatcher to tell him, "We don't need you to do that." Zimmerman pursued Martin anyway but then said he lost sight of him.

According to an Orlando Sentinel story later confirmed by Sanford police, Zimmerman told authorities that after he briefly lost track of Martin, the teen approached him. After the two exchanged words, Zimmerman said, he reached for his cell phone, and then Martin punched him in the nose. Zimmerman said Martin pinned him to the ground and began slamming his head onto the sidewalk, leading to the shooting.

Police have said Zimmerman was not immediately charged because there was no evidence to disprove his account that he'd acted in self-defense. A police report indicated he was bleeding from the nose and the back of his head.

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#2. To: Ferret Mike (#0)

Zimmerman, 28, was released Monday on $150,000 bail, 10% of which his family put up to secure his release.

Bail was set and paid.

Have you disclosed everything about your assets to government?

We The People  posted on  2012-04-27   7:39:50 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: We The People (#2)

Much ado about nothing.

But it sure tells me a lot about rat-boy.

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2012-04-27   11:09:59 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: Capitalist Eric (#22)

I have nothing against you Eric, but you have consistently attacked me with little or no provocation based on a difference of opinion.

You have a right to like or dislike me, but suffice it to say I won't lose any sleep if you don't. I was civil toward you when you arrived based on things you had posted on eLPee I had liked, and when you tore into me, I just put you on my kill file list.

I find you interesting to read, but if you don't want me to listen to your perspective the remedy is easy; just start in again and back you go on the list.

It's as simple as that. Because I'll always listen to criticism or argue a point. But I won't listen to a constant diatribe in which personality and damning someone's overall ideology are the primary focus.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2012-04-27   13:52:15 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Ferret Mike (#25)

I have nothing against you Eric, but you have consistently attacked me with little or no provocation based on a difference of opinion.

You're a socialist useful-idiot. I support the Constitution, as it was originally written. It's more than just a "difference of opinion," rat-boy... it's the fact that you stand for everything I despise. You're a parasite on society. You're a poseur in the intellectual arena, when in reality you're just a friggin' janitor.

As to why I despise you, let's give a few examples from this thread:

I believe the law is deeply flawed, and the standard needed to convict is not one that serves the interest of justice.

Yeah, how DARE someone have the ability to DEFEND themselves, eh? Your "belief" is based on emotions, not "the interest of justice." People have the right to be secure in their lives, unmolested by others or the government.

Damn, that Constitution is just so inconvenient, isn't it????

Who appointed [A K A Stone] to play God and decide who deserves to live and die?

Who appointed YOU to throw out that (oh-so-incovenient) Constitution??? After all, that IS what you try to do, when you push to have "Stand Your Ground" laws repealed.

TELL us, rat-boy... How many guns do you own right now? Make, model, caliber? Or do you own any guns?

...his actions ... led to him murdering a teenage boy.

Really? And what, praytell, is your PROOF of that? What happened to "innocent until proven guilty?" (Damn that INCONVENIENT Constitution, eh?) If you were truly interested in "justice," you wouldn't be throwing around such statements. The TRUTH is, you've already made up your mind, and TRUTH BE DAMNED.

I sure wouldn't go out and bother people who are not breaking laws then shoot them. ... I would not kill because I had a bloody nose and a scraped head. If this dummy had not had a weapon, no one would of been killed.

Yeah, you're motivated by "justice," aren't you?

I am actually very well trained with firearms... I have karate training... I take the responsibility of carrying concealed very seriously. And I would not kill because I had a bloody nose and a scraped head.

Ahh, the MONEY-SHOT. When all else fails, revert to the Rules of Disinformation. LOL.

#8. Invoke authority.
Claim for yourself or associate yourself with authority and present your argument with enough 'jargon' and 'minutia' to illustrate you are 'one who knows', and simply say it isn't so without discussing issues or demonstrating concretely why or citing sources.

Thanks for playing, you (wannabe') weapons-expert karate-master legal- eagle socialist shit-bag.

Now, don't you have some toilets to clean?

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2012-04-27   15:53:17 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: Capitalist Eric (#27) (Edited)

"You're a socialist useful-idiot. I support the Constitution, as it was originally written. It's more than just a "difference of opinion," rat-boy... it's the fact that you stand for everything I despise. You're a parasite on society. You're a poseur in the intellectual arena, when in reality you're just a friggin' janitor."

Yeah, I was a paperboy far longer then a custodian. And the custodial position was secondary to my primary job at market.

I am also not a socialist, and I have a B.S. in Poli Sci at the University of Oregon. I didn't learn jargon by not studying and readingand writing papers full of jargon in many books that were far too expensive.

You essentially 'despise' to tear others down with the aim to build yourself up, hopefully at another's expense. This is an election year, and there is a great deal of work we are doing at the office I work at downtown, jerk.

And I am not karate 'expert,' I just have a brown belt in Shotakon Karate. One that is out of practice with his katas, as I was that day in Portland I was attacked. Which is why I took a good anchor before worrying about a slow, and easy to counter roundhouse kick. I was not boasting.

I am also a good shot, loved paint ball when I lived in Portland and North Carolinaalong with very good combt arms training in the Army; even have some nice handguns and weapons, but I am also hardly no expert, dick head. save the insults and belittlements.

Back on Bozo you go, because I do chose my battle wisely, and when I argue with an immature type like you, it's pointless. You just don't understand how to debate the issues.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2012-04-27   18:21:44 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: Ferret Mike (#28) (Edited)

Yeah, I was a paperboy far longer then a custodian. And the custodial position was secondary to my primary job at market.

Which means diddley-shit.

I am also not a socialist,

Your statements demonstrate otherwise. I don't care if you call yourself "Green," a "liberal," a "democrat," of a Martian, your statements demonstrate your political leanings- even on this thread.

I stand by my statement: you're a socialist useful-idiot.

I have a B.S. in Poli Sci at the University of Oregon.

A completely useless degree. No wonder you work as a janitor.

didn't learn ...

It would seem we agree on this point.

You essentially 'despise' to tear others down with the aim to build yourself up, hopefully at another's expense.

Were this hypothesis to have any value, it would logically necessitate that I gain something by talking to nitwits like you.

But you don't bring anything to the table, so what possible benefit do I get from tearing you down? You presume that I work to make you look stupid; but for that, you don't need any help. I- and others- simply won't let your bullshit lies stand unchallenged.

There are two types of people that I can't stand: liars and thieves. You LIE on a regular basis, and you want to STEAL my rights, via Government Leviathan.

And you think I'm not gonna' call you on your shit? This is the same kind of arrogance that oBungler displays... which is why America is silently buying arms and ammunition in record numbers... Because WE aren't going to tolerate your shit.

I am not karate 'expert,'

Uh-huh. Which is why you put out there that "I am actually very well trained with firearms... I have karate training..." In other words, to establish yourself as an "expert."

You failed.

I am also a good shot... I am also hardly no expert, dick head. save the insults and belittlements.

Yet you put out information to infer that you are. Oooh, you received Army training... where, at BOOT?

Again, you put it out there, to infer an expertise, that you (now) claim you don't have.

So were you lying before, or are you lying now? Which IS it, rat- boy?

It doesn't really matter if you answer; as I said, I despise liars and thieves... You're easily the first, and tacitly approve of the latter.

Face it, rat-boy... you're a loser. You're a janitor who's a wannabe- somebody, yet you have no marketable skills, you're unable to accept responsibility for your actions (leading to being booted out of the service), and you've got nothing to show for your empty life, except a few rain-bow shirts, and a startling resemblance to someone who played your intellectual twin on TV:

Thanks for playing, dipshit.

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2012-04-27   19:23:57 ET  (2 images) Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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