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Title: GOP Tries To Water Down Violence Against Women Act, Expresses Willingness To Tolerate Some Domestic Abuse
Source: TPM
URL Source: http://thinkprogress.org/justice/20 ... tchiso-vawa-tribal-provisions/
Published: Apr 26, 2012
Author: Annie-Rose Strasser
Post Date: 2012-04-26 12:00:57 by Brian S
Keywords: None
Views: 4909
Comments: 21

From the very beginning, Sen. Chuck Grassley (R-IA) led the opposition to reauthorizing the Violence Against Women Act (VAWA) — even leading Senate Judiciary Republicans to unanimously vote against it because they object to its protections for LGBT victims, immigrants and Native Americans. Grassley has now teamed up with Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchison (R-TX) “offer a substitute that would address GOP concerns with the bill.”

Although the full details of Grassley and Hutchinson’s watered down protections for domestic violence victims have yet to be released, it is likely that they will map Grassley’s previously stated opposition to providing greater support for LGBT, undocumented, and tribal victims of domestic violence. The Hutchison/Grassley amendment will likely leave out some victims who face particularly harsh discrimination. If Senate Republicans embrace Grassley’s earlier objections to reauthorizing VAWA, they will show that they are willing to tolerate a certain amount of domestic violence by ignoring certain victims:

For Native victims: In 86 percent of reported rapes or sexual assaults on Native women, the perpetrators are non-Native. While Hutchison has criticized the tribal provisions, saying that ‘any American’ could be imprisoned by tribal courts, in actuality, the provisions allow tribal members to prosecute a non-tribal people who commit domestic violence and who either live or work on a reservation, or are married to a tribal member. The Grassley / Hutchison amendment requires any domestic violence to be prosecuted in federal courts, meaning that rural tribal victims won’t seek help. Additionally, federal prosecutors “already decline to prosecute half of Indian Country crimes
that are referred to them,” and with the added number of domestic violence crimes, victims are likely to never see justice.

For LGBT victims: The new version of the bill also lacks any additional provisions for the LGBT community, blanketing over LGBT-specific issues with gender neutral language that lumps the needs of gay and lesbian protections in with the needs of straight couples. The original version of VAWA says that domestic violence shelters cannot discriminate against gay, lesbian, or trans people, but the new version says nothing about this issue. Grassley has said that he does not believe discrimination in shelters is an issue — despite the fact that “44.6 percent of LGBT/HIV-positive survivors of intimate partner violence were turned away from shelters.”

For undocumented victims: The Grassley/Hutchison version of the bill takes out the added visas for undocumented people who are beaten and seek assistance from the state. The visas are put in place so that victims aren’t too scared to contact the authorities when they find themselves physically harmed or in danger. When such protections don’t exist, people are forced to work outside of the law to protect themselves.

But there may be a bit of good news in the bill. It may offer increased funding for rape kits, the processing of which is notoriously backlogged in the criminal justice system across the U.S. This funding should be increased, but LGBT, Native American and immigrant victims should not have to suffer for it.

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#1. To: Brian S (#0)

The Grassley/Hutchison version of the bill takes out the added visas for undocumented people who are beaten and seek assistance from the state. The visas are put in place so that victims aren’t too scared to contact the authorities when they find themselves physically harmed or in danger.

Any excuse to hand out more visas and goodies to the shiftless Third World illegal aliens that have invaded our country.

Tooconservative  posted on  2012-04-26   12:08:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Brian S (#0)

How about just repealing the VAWA and leave prosecuting crime to the states, counties, and tribal governments.

This is an example of both political parties competing within an artificially narrow debate to see who can dominate the process of centralizing control of all functions of society.

Anthem  posted on  2012-04-26   12:23:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Anthem (#2)

How about just repealing the VAWA and leave prosecuting crime to the states, counties, and tribal governments.

You'd be surprised how the old boy network functions in some jurisdictions to protect the abuser.

Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady

lucysmom  posted on  2012-04-26   14:17:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: lucysmom (#3)

[what's with the different sized text in the first line?]

No, I wouldn't. I know that expanding butt kissing networks to the federal level does not help; in fact it makes things worse.

There is no substitute for courage and true leadership; a community without them will be at the mercy of bullies.

Expecting better from a bigger bully only increases the scale of harm that they can do.

Anthem  posted on  2012-04-26   15:07:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Anthem (#4)

[what's with the different sized text in the first line?]

Are you asking about TooConservative's post?

There is no substitute for courage and true leadership; a community without them will be at the mercy of bullies.

Expecting better from a bigger bully only increases the scale of harm that they can do.

I dare say most bullies would prefer to keep it local.

Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady

lucysmom  posted on  2012-04-26   18:29:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: lucysmom (#5)

.

One of the most intelligent men in history, Ben Franklin (a true polymath) wrote:

“Those who would give up Essential Liberty, to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."
I don't want to stop you from daring to approach a bigger bully for protection from a lesser one, just leave me and mine out of it. If you, instead, ask for help in exposing the racket, then I'm more than willing to dare along with you.

Anthem  posted on  2012-04-26   22:01:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Anthem (#6) (Edited)

Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady

lucysmom  posted on  2012-04-26   22:10:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Anthem (#6)

I don't want to stop you from daring to approach a bigger bully for protection from a lesser one, just leave me and mine out of it. If you, instead, ask for help in exposing the racket, then I'm more than willing to dare along with you.

Too bad you weren't there when a friend's soon-to-be ex husband was driving up and down the street where she lived, waving a gun and threatening to shoot her. She had a restraining order, but the local sheriff wouldn't respond because he and her husband were friends.

Women in her position haven't got much freedom to give up.

Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady

lucysmom  posted on  2012-04-26   22:25:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: lucysmom (#8) (Edited)

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And how would VAVA have helped her?

If she called the police there should be a recording of the call that she can get and use to expose the sheriff's negligence. If the county prosecutor is corrupt then her next stop is the state AG's office.

What she needs is a video camera / phone to document the threat, and a gun (and training) to defend herself. If she is too helpless to do either, then she needs to find a friend or courageous member of her community who is willing to respond to her call. There isn't a law that can be imagined that would have changed the situation on the ground for her. He was already breaking a half dozen laws. Even if there was a federal marshal that she could have called, what if the guy was friends with him too?

Freedom requires an effort, not an expectation that someone else is responsible for it.

Anthem  posted on  2012-04-27   0:06:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Anthem (#9)

If the county prosecutor is corrupt then her next stop is the state AG's office.

The county prosecutor had been her husbands lawyer. Charges against her husband were dropped because the evidence against him mysteriously disappeared.

Freedom requires an effort, not an expectation that someone else is responsible for it.

"Nothing is impossible to the man who doesn't have to do it."

Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady

lucysmom  posted on  2012-04-27   0:16:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: lucysmom (#10)

The county prosecutor had been her husbands lawyer.

And so the guy probably would be friends with any federal cop planted in the community. Bigger bully, same result.

She's outnumbered. She has two options: Charge or retreat. If she can't find a lawyer to take it to the state AG's office or anybody to take on the corruption locally, then she needs to move to a different county.

You didn't answer my question.

Anthem  posted on  2012-04-27   0:26:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: lucysmom (#3)

There is no constititonal authorization for this. If there is site it. There isn't you can't.

So called transgendered people are mentally defective and should be euthanized.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-04-27   7:00:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: lucysmom (#3)

You'd be surprised how the old boy network functions in some jurisdictions to protect the abuser.

Are you talking about how the nigger Eric Holder protects the niggers in the New Black Panther party making death threats and threts of kidnappings.

Get rid of the nigger in the white house and the nigger attorney general. Then maybe we can come back to this discussion.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-04-27   7:02:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: A K A Stone (#13) (Edited)

Your racism shuts down discussion, it does not invite it.

You are the one with the disease of hatred and intolerance, not her.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2012-04-27   7:19:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Ferret Mike (#14)

Your racism shuts down discussion, it does not invite it.

What racism? Oh you mean I said Nigger.

I guess Trayvon was a racist too. And Chris Rock.

No dumb ass. It is just an insult to throw at the blacks who happen to be evil.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-04-27   7:30:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: A K A Stone (#15) (Edited)

There is a difference between a racist White like you who would probably beat his son or daughter for dating a person darker then they are and a Black man or woman chosing the tactic of dis-empowering the epithet.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2012-04-27   7:33:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: A K A Stone (#12)

"So called transgendered people are mentally defective and should be euthanized."

Why do yu hate the U.S. Constitution and human right so much, Mr. Hitler/Stone?

That is only a page out of the German Nazi play book.

Or are you now in support of the Holocaust which was done with exactly the same mindset as your comment here?

Ferret Mike  posted on  2012-04-27   7:46:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Ferret Mike (#17)

Why do yu hate the U.S. Constitution and human right so much, Mr. Hitler/Stone?

That would be Mr. honky Hitler/Stone.

Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady

lucysmom  posted on  2012-04-27   9:39:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Anthem (#11)

She's outnumbered. She has two options: Charge or retreat. If she can't find a lawyer to take it to the state AG's office or anybody to take on the corruption locally, then she needs to move to a different county.

She lived in a small town (Sarah Palin's "real America" sort of place), had two young children and was caring for her husband's daughter (incest victim), no money and no car. Nobody locally helped her.

She did manage to escape with the kids, moved about 200 miles away.

Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady

lucysmom  posted on  2012-04-27   10:05:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Ferret Mike, A K A Stone (#17)

Why do yu hate the U.S. Constitution and human right so much, Mr. Hitler/Stone?

Stone loves pedophile rock stars too. As long as they support the GOP.

Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET

mininggold  posted on  2012-04-27   11:02:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: lucysmom (#19)

She lived in a small town (Sarah Palin's "real America" sort of place), had two young children and was caring for her husband's daughter (incest victim), no money and no car. Nobody locally helped her.

That sounds like Rush's dream scenario of conservative life in the 21st century.

Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET

mininggold  posted on  2012-04-27   11:08:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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