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Title: Walker's Wis. Lost Most Jobs in Nation
Source: newser.com
URL Source: http://www.newser.com/story/144793/ ... -lost-most-jobs-in-nation.html
Published: Apr 26, 2012
Author: By Rob Quinn, Newser Staff
Post Date: 2012-04-26 04:56:31 by Ferret Mike
Keywords: None
Views: 18588
Comments: 59

(Newser) – Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker's efforts to keep his job took a hit this week from a report showing how many voters lost theirs. Between March 2011 and March 2012, the state lost 23,900 jobs, more than any other state in the nation, according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics report. Some 17,800 of those were in the public sector, but the state also led the country in private-sector job losses with 6,100, reports the Christian Science Monitor. Only Mississippi and Rhode Island also saw the number of private sector jobs shrink in the same period.

Walker—who faces a recall election in June—has been playing up more recent data in his campaign, pointing out that the state gained 17,000 jobs in the first two months of this year. But another 4,300 jobs were lost in March, and his Democratic opponents note that Walker promised to bring 250,000 private sector jobs to the state in his first term. "He really put this number on the table. If anyone said, ‘Judge me by the jobs,’ it was Scott Walker,” a labor economist notes.

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#27. To: Ferret Mike (#0)

When I was in High School back in the early '70s, at football games the two schools sat on opposite sides of the stadium and the students would compete in a cheer: "We've got spirit, yes we do, we've got spirit, how 'bout YOU!" It was mindless fun, as it went back and forth and generated some excitement without rancor. Sometime in the last 30 years that good spirit was lost and the cheer is now: "Our team is red hot, your team ain't doodly-squat!"

This forum is apparently of the latter generations.

How about a few facts? (Not that the article is any example, as it did not detail which types of jobs were lost). Wisconsin is still struggling to balance their budget. It has among the lowest reserve (rainy day) funds among all the states. If the economy there is to recover it needs productive private sector jobs first to support whatever government services the people want.

Few understand Shumpeterian "creative destruction", which describes liquidating mal-investment (cutting your losses) to free up the investment capital for more productive pursuits. Cutting government jobs to prevent the further drag of debt on the state budget allows that saved money (both salaries and debt service) to be re-invested in more productive jobs.

Anthem  posted on  2012-04-26   11:55:07 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: Anthem (#27)

Sometime in the last 30 years that good spirit was lost and the cheer is now: "Our team is red hot, your team ain't doodly-squat!"

This forum is apparently of the latter generations.

Bingo.

LoonyMing (one person using two screen-names), rat-boy and Brian S, are all hard-core leftists.

They squeal like stuck pigs if the socket-puppet sitting in the White House has an "R" after their name, and turn into complete suck-ups, if the sock-puppet wears a "D."

Of course, the sock-puppets do the bidding of their masters (bankster-class), and are turning the country into a full-tilt police state... But to these moronic leftists, it's good if the boot that's on your neck is the left boot, and bad if it's the right boot.

Which, IMHO, is completely insane, but there you are....

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2012-04-26   13:11:16 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: Capitalist Eric, Anthem (#39)

LoonyMing (one person using two screen-names), rat-boy and Brian S, are all hard-core leftists.

You really shouldn't brag about your ability to be totally clueless to strangers. Didn't your mother warn you? And hard core...LOLOL. Exaggerate much?

mininggold  posted on  2012-04-26   13:19:23 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: mininggold (#41)

Didn't your mother warn you?

His mother excused his anti-social behavior telling him he was a smart boy who didn't suffer fools.

lucysmom  posted on  2012-04-26   14:21:28 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: lucysmom (#43)

His mother excused his anti-social behavior telling him he was a smart boy who didn't suffer fools.

She evidently didn't care if he ever learned from experience.

mininggold  posted on  2012-04-26   15:49:23 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: mininggold (#45) (Edited)

"lucysmom":His mother excused his anti-social behavior telling him he was a smart boy who didn't suffer fools.
"Ming": She evidently didn't care if he ever learned from experience.

Awww... how cute, talking to yourself again.

Another attempt to divert attention from the point I made:

LoonyMing (one person using two screen-names), rat-boy and Brian S, are all hard-core leftists.

They squeal like stuck pigs if the socket-puppet sitting in the White House has an "R" after their name, and turn into complete suck-ups, if the sock-puppet wears a "D."

Of course, the sock-puppets do the bidding of their masters (bankster-class), and are turning the country into a full-tilt police state... But to these moronic leftists, it's good if the boot that's on your neck is the left boot, and bad if it's the right boot.

Of course, your empty-headed responses are all straight out of the disinformation playbook:

Disinformation Rule #17. Change the subject.
Usually in connection with one of the other ploys listed here, find a way to side-track the discussion with abrasive or controversial comments in hopes of turning attention to a new, more manageable topic. This works especially well with companions who can 'argue' with you over the new topic and polarize the discussion arena in order to avoid discussing more key issues.

Disinformation Rule #18. Emotionalize, Antagonize, and Goad Opponents.
If you can't do anything else, chide and taunt your opponents and draw them into emotional responses which will tend to make them look foolish and overly motivated, and generally render their material somewhat less coherent. Not only will you avoid discussing the issues in the first instance, but even if their emotional response addresses the issue, you can further avoid the issues by then focusing on how 'sensitive they are to criticism.'

Of course, this also ties in to the Obvious Traits of Disinformationalists:

1) Avoidance
They never actually discuss issues head-on or provide constructive input, generally avoiding citation of references or credentials. Rather, they merely imply this, that, and the other. Virtually everything about their presentation implies their authority and expert knowledge in the matter without any further justification for credibility.

2) Selectivity
They tend to pick and choose opponents carefully, either applying the hit-and- run approach against mere commentators supportive of opponents, or focusing heavier attacks on key opponents who are known to directly address issues. Should a commentator become argumentative with any success, the focus will shift to include the commentator as well. 3) Coincidental

4) Teamwork
They tend to operate in self-congratulatory and complementary packs or teams. Of course, this can happen naturally in any public forum, but there will likely be an ongoing pattern of frequent exchanges of this sort where professionals are involved. Sometimes one of the players will infiltrate the opponent camp to become a source for straw man or other tactics designed to dilute opponent presentation strength.

Thanks for the laughs, loonyming.

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2012-04-26   16:37:50 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: Capitalist Eric (#46)

Another attempt to divert attention from the point I made:

Was your point relevant to the thread topic Walker's Wis. Lost Most Jobs in Nation

? If not, who cares.

Disinformation Rule #18. Emotionalize, Antagonize, and Goad Opponents.

Eric provides some examples:

LoonyMing (one person using two screen-names), rat-boy and Brian S, are all hard-core leftists.

They squeal like stuck pigs if the socket-puppet sitting in the White House has an "R" after their name, and turn into complete suck-ups, if the sock-puppet wears a "D."

Of course, the sock-puppets do the bidding of their masters (bankster-class), and are turning the country into a full-tilt police state... But to these moronic leftists, it's good if the boot that's on your neck is the left boot, and bad if it's the right boot.

Of course, this also ties in to the Obvious Traits of Disinformationalists: 1) Avoidance - check; 2) Selectivity - check; 4) Teamwork - check

Your score, Eric is 75% - good work

lucysmom  posted on  2012-04-26   18:18:38 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: lucysmom, Anthem, A K A Stone (#49)

Was your point relevant to the thread topic Walker's Wis. Lost Most Jobs in Nation ? If not, who cares.

Ooh, you're actually trying now, eh?

Ok, I'm good with that. I was responding to something Anthem said. His point was precise, and elegant. I simply added to it.

It was YOU who attempted to divert, and you failed.

Which brings us back to another point: You BRAG about your ignorance, and have it as your friggin' signature. So this leads to the logical question, which I've posed to you FOUR times.

What makes you think your ignorant opinion has any value?

Disinformation Rule #18. Emotionalize, Antagonize, and Goad Opponents. Eric provides some examples: LoonyMing (one person using two screen- names), rat-boy and Brian S, are all hard-core leftists.

Since when is stating objective FACT "disinformation?"

You ADMITTED you're also Ming. Want me to provide the link, where you fucked up, and exposed yourself? Wanna' go down that road again, buttercup?

But really, these are all games of semantics for you, because you think that you can "argue" against facts, even if you have to redefine words to suit your desires... You're just so desperate to divert attention away from facts, that you openly buy into Orwell's laws (WAR IS PEACE, FREEDOM IS SLAVERY, and IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH).

Indeed, that is EXACTLY what your signature infers...

Which means you are truly delusional.

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2012-04-26   19:07:44 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: Capitalist Eric (#50)

What makes you think your ignorant opinion has any value?

My response remains the same.

Since when is stating objective FACT "disinformation?"

You ADMITTED you're also Ming. Want me to provide the link, where you fucked up, and exposed yourself? Wanna' go down that road again, buttercup?

That can't be as objective fact because it isn't true - kinda puts the disinformation shoe on the other foot.

Which means you are truly delusional.

One of us is delusional, that's for sure.

lucysmom  posted on  2012-04-26   21:53:46 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#56. To: lucysmom, mininggold, A K A Stone (#54)

Capitalist Eric: What makes you think your ignorant opinion has any value?
LoonyBitch: My response remains the same.

Another failure to respond. No surprise, really. You CAN'T answer, because the logic is implacable, and you are once again trapped by it.

I also noticed you failed to accept my challenge to expose you (lucysIDIOTmom=Ming), but that's not a surprise, either. After all, you're trying to make it appear that you have some valid position, and at the same time, divert attention away from the fact that you're a boot-licking, brain- washed moron.

Bottom line: you're a fucking idiot, you're proud of your idiocy, and your ignorance is proudly displayed with every idiotic post you make.

Thanks for the clarification- I knew you had it in you.

Capitalist Eric: Get back to what you're best at- being a sperm receptacle.
LoonyBitch: I doubt it surprises anyone that that's how you see women.

To be marketable in any job, you must have some activity between the ears. Since you don't, and you're proud of it... It can easily be extrapolated that your only marketable skill is the oldest profession there is.

I don't see all women that way. I just see YOU that way. You're a dumb, worthless cunt.

And I really mean that.

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2012-04-27 00:01:04 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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