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Title: Walker's Wis. Lost Most Jobs in Nation
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URL Source: http://www.newser.com/story/144793/ ... -lost-most-jobs-in-nation.html
Published: Apr 26, 2012
Author: By Rob Quinn, Newser Staff
Post Date: 2012-04-26 04:56:31 by Ferret Mike
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Comments: 59
(Newser) – Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker's efforts to keep his job took a hit this week from a report showing how many voters lost theirs. Between March 2011 and March 2012, the state lost 23,900 jobs, more than any other state in the nation, according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics report. Some 17,800 of those were in the public sector, but the state also led the country in private-sector job losses with 6,100, reports the Christian Science Monitor. Only Mississippi and Rhode Island also saw the number of private sector jobs shrink in the same period. Walker—who faces a recall election in June—has been playing up more recent data in his campaign, pointing out that the state gained 17,000 jobs in the first two months of this year. But another 4,300 jobs were lost in March, and his Democratic opponents note that Walker promised to bring 250,000 private sector jobs to the state in his first term. "He really put this number on the table. If anyone said, ‘Judge me by the jobs,’ it was Scott Walker,” a labor economist notes.
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#19. To: TooConservative (#17)
I just got done slamming the holocaust in Germany during WW II and I'm not Jewish, gay or a member of any other target group of that genocide. So, why is that? According to your post, one must have to belong to a group to have empathy and understanding for it. I guess you are just wrong here, and no big surprise at that being so either.
Don't break your arm patting yourself on the back. You libs are obsessed with race. The biggest racists I've ever met except for a couple of guys I once met from Mississippi.
I didn't marry because my ex-wife is black. And we didn't split because of racial difference either. Race is just a normal part of the human variable. Just as gender preference is.
Look, if you want to discuss your pole-smoking habits or walking around in women's underwear, this conversation is over.
Look, if you want to discuss your pole-smoking habits or walking around in women's underwear, this conversation is over. Your standard Alinsky reply when you are trapped in a corner.
Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET
Like I said, you don't have to be Jewish to hate the Holocaust. You have no les to stand on with your baiting here. It just shows how weak your argument is, and how much good personal character you lack.
Well put. I love it when you show them they use the same tactics they accuse others of. Good post.
Alinsky knew human behavior above all else.
Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET
When I was in High School back in the early '70s, at football games the two schools sat on opposite sides of the stadium and the students would compete in a cheer: "We've got spirit, yes we do, we've got spirit, how 'bout YOU!" It was mindless fun, as it went back and forth and generated some excitement without rancor. Sometime in the last 30 years that good spirit was lost and the cheer is now: "Our team is red hot, your team ain't doodly-squat!" This forum is apparently of the latter generations. How about a few facts? (Not that the article is any example, as it did not detail which types of jobs were lost). Wisconsin is still struggling to balance their budget. It has among the lowest reserve (rainy day) funds among all the states. If the economy there is to recover it needs productive private sector jobs first to support whatever government services the people want. Few understand Shumpeterian "creative destruction", which describes liquidating mal-investment (cutting your losses) to free up the investment capital for more productive pursuits. Cutting government jobs to prevent the further drag of debt on the state budget allows that saved money (both salaries and debt service) to be re-invested in more productive jobs.
I just don't want to discuss your unsavory sexual habits.
This forum has mediocre and talentless management which is foundational as to why it lives primarily in the Ad hominem zone, so I am mindful of your lament and sympathize. Democracy is involved in a long and complicated process in Wisconsin. The koch Brothers got their stooge in the Governors house, and a Republican majority eager to do their bidding. But the public will and intelligence is a constant thorn in their side as they try to use money, influence and power to subvert the process and disenfranchise people from their role in running their country. I'll ferret around for that particular sort of data in relation to this story. And if you wish to debate this in a way not usually seen at LF, I assure you I would be most happy to.
A woman from the South told me that racial segregation back in the day had nothing to do with race. She said that negros had a special diet that made them unhealthy and separate water fountains, bathrooms, etc. was just an attempt to keep whites from catching their diseases. She would have agreed with you.
Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady
Curious you say that, because judging by your last few posts obsessing with sexual affairs, that is exactly what lights your spark plug.
Of course if those laid off employees are collecting unemployment benefits then the state is still shelling out money, but not getting the benefit of work in exchange while the exemployees are reducing growth-stimulating spending. CARSON CITY -- If Gov. Jim Gibbons and legislators decide to lay off thousands of state employees to save money, the state still will be on the hook for paying their unemployment benefits, which would cost more than $1 million a month for every 1,000 workers affected. Besides unemployment costs, the state would be obligated to pay laid-off workers for any sick leave and vacation time they have accumulated... Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady
Since mininggold does not discuss her sex habits, it's all happening in your twisted imagination.
Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady
So would I.
Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady
Acceptance of a short term loss in exchange for a 10 year loss (bonds) and the mega loss of a permanently larger government is an example of wisdom in the long run.
Careful, Anthem, the Moonies are trying to love-bomb you. They'll probably try to lure you into private chat, to their creepy Facebook pages, or their actual preferred websites like HuffPo or DemocatUnderground. Watch for cultish behavior. It doesn't take long.
Yet conservative billionaire cultist Sun Myung Moon runs the Washington Times, a hack conservative paper that is merely a trapping of his desire to work his cult and political paradigm into a position of global hegemony. Sorry Charlie Brown, but the HuffPost looks nothing like the WT, and Moon is no champion of anyone but himself. If you want to talk about the dangers of this and other cults, by all means do. But you will be finding I am on your side if you are as concerned with their dangers and the games they play, not a proponent of them and what they do.
To: Democratic Legislative Campaign Committee From: Andrew Myers and Ben Lazarus Wisconsin Recall State Senate Districts According to the findings of our recent surveys1 of Wisconsin State Senate Districts 21, 23 and 29 our data and central findings differ sharply in two of the three districts from the recent Public Policy Polling polls released. To be succinct about the differences, our polls clearly put the odds on Democrats taking back the State Senate in June. Senate District 21 Senate District 23 Looking under the surface the trends between the two polls match nearly perfectly among men (Myers Research has Dexter trailing among men by 17-points, 39 to 56 percent, while PPP’s poll has her trailing by a similar 36 to 57 percent). The real difference between our poll and PPP’s is the trend among women. According to PPP’s results, women split evenly here (45 percent apiece). Our survey shows Dexter with a double-digit edge among them, 54 to 43 percent. There is an additional, and substantial difference in these surveys in the party self-identification trend as well. Despite the National Committee for an Effective Congress (NCEC) ranking Democratic Performance here at 54.4 percent in 2010, PPP’s poll shows partisan self-identification favoring Republicans by 9 points, 26 percent Democrat, 39 independent, and 35 percent Republican. Our poll has the trend substantially closer to the historical performance, 30 Democrat, 40 independent and 29 Republican. Senate District 29 As with the 23rd Senate District, PPP’s polling has party self-identification leaning very strongly Republican, with 26 percent saying they are Democrats, 37 independent and 37 Republican. Our own polling has partisan self-identification much closer to the historical trend with 33 percent calling themselves Democrats, 36 percent independents and 31 percent Republicans. Beyond partisan self-identification, our polling again conflicts with PPP in the trend we see with women here. Specifically, our polling shows a very wide 31-point gender gap afoot in this district, with women favoring Seidel by 9-points, 53 to 44 percent while men favor Petrowski by 22-points, 36 to 58 percent. While the PPP data is an agreement with ours on the trend among men, we again differ substantially on the trend with women as they have Seidel trailing among women by double-digits, 38 to 50 percent. One final point on this district. The RSLC recently went on the air with a substantial buy and a tough spot accusing Seidel of failing on the economy and jobs. In return, Seidel is up with a tougher spot highlighting Petrowski’s lack of respect for women. If this race were a double-digit blowout as suggested by the PPP survey, it is odd that it is the first of these Senate recall campaigns to be on the airwaves. The Broader Picture http://www.dlcc.org/files/DLCC_WI_Memo_2012-04-24.pdf
This forum is apparently of the latter generations. Bingo. LoonyMing (one person using two screen-names), rat-boy and Brian S, are all hard-core leftists. They squeal like stuck pigs if the socket-puppet sitting in the White House has an "R" after their name, and turn into complete suck-ups, if the sock-puppet wears a "D." Of course, the sock-puppets do the bidding of their masters (bankster-class), and are turning the country into a full-tilt police state... But to these moronic leftists, it's good if the boot that's on your neck is the left boot, and bad if it's the right boot. Which, IMHO, is completely insane, but there you are....
To: mcToejam, rat-boy, drippy, Alzheimer Fred, whitesands, t-bird, Old Moon's getting another cool half million from Moonie follower neighbors who just sold their property.
Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET
You really shouldn't brag about your ability to be totally clueless to strangers. Didn't your mother warn you? And hard core...LOLOL. Exaggerate much?
Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET
Just curious, did you take your nick from the title of the book Anthem by Ayn Rand? It id a short work, but I liked it.
His mother excused his anti-social behavior telling him he was a smart boy who didn't suffer fools.
Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady
Yes, for the most part. I also like the National Anthem.
She evidently didn't care if he ever learned from experience.
Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET
Awww... how cute, talking to yourself again. Another attempt to divert attention from the point I made: They squeal like stuck pigs if the socket-puppet sitting in the White House has an "R" after their name, and turn into complete suck-ups, if the sock-puppet wears a "D." Of course, the sock-puppets do the bidding of their masters (bankster-class), and are turning the country into a full-tilt police state... But to these moronic leftists, it's good if the boot that's on your neck is the left boot, and bad if it's the right boot. Of course, your empty-headed responses are all straight out of the disinformation playbook: Disinformation Rule #17. Change the subject. Disinformation Rule #18. Emotionalize, Antagonize, and Goad Opponents. Of course, this also ties in to the Obvious Traits of Disinformationalists: 1) Avoidance 2) Selectivity 4) Teamwork Thanks for the laughs, loonyming.
To: mcToejam, rat-boy, drippy, Alzheimer Fred, whitesands, t-bird, Governor's jobs promise is still off pace KRISTYNA WENTZ-GRAFF - Milwaukee Journal Sentinel Capitol reporters Mary Spicuzza and Clay Barbour bring you their takes on state and Madison-area politics. Despite a bump in January, Gov. Scott Walker's goal of creating 250,000 private- sector jobs is still a long way off, according to numbers released Thursday by the Department of Workforce Development. Wisconsin has gained only 6,000 private-sector jobs in the 13 months since the governor took office, a sluggish economic pace that leaves the state far off the mark Walker set during his campaign. There were some good numbers Thursday. Wisconsin added 15,700 private-sector jobs in January 2012, though it lost 3,200 jobs in the public sector. And the state's unemployment number fell to 6.9 percent, the lowest it's been since December 2008, according to DWD Secretary Reggie Newson. But those gains were overshadowed by the state's sluggish performance since Walker took office. Excluding thousands of jobs added in December 2010 but included in Walker's total because of the way DWD tabulates numbers, the latest revisions show the state gained only 900 private-sector jobs since January 2011. It actually lost 12,500 total non-farm jobs, a number that includes public jobs. "While current job estimates are promising, today's revised actual numbers for the past year were worse than estimates, which is deeply troubling," said state Assembly Minority Leader Peter Barca, D-Kenosha. "The fact remains that job loss is the overall impact Gov. Walker and the Republicans' economic agenda has had on Wisconsin." Walker said that the jobs numbers and falling unemployment statistics released Thursday show Wisconsin is headed in the right direction. "Our economy is turning around in part because the structural reforms we put in place are creating certainty for private-sector employers to grow jobs by showing them that Wisconsin's finances are in order," said Cullen Werwie, Walker's spokesman. The jobs issue has been a touchy one for the governor, who has joked that he'd tattoo "250,000 jobs" on the foreheads of his Cabinet secretaries to remind them of the importance of turning the state's economy around. When Walker took office, Wisconsin had about 2.74 million total non-farm jobs. Over the next year, the state experienced a bumpy, uneven ride on the way to job losses in seven of 12 months. Still, on Thursday, Republicans found hope in the most recent numbers. "Wisconsin lost 150,000 jobs under the Democrats' control," said Senate Majority Leader Scott Fitzgerald, R-Juneau. "I'm glad we're making progress climbing out of that hole." State Rep. Robin Vos, R-Rochester, struck a similar theme, saying the latest numbers indicate a turnaround. "People are finding work and no longer have to worry about how they're going to put food on their tables," he said. But to Democrats, the January bump was not enough to prove Walker's changes are having the desired effect. "Gov. Walker made an ironclad promise to create 250,000 jobs in Wisconsin during his first term as governor," said state Rep. Sandy Pasch, D-Whitefish Bay. "It is quite shocking to note that his promise is behind pace by over 80,000 jobs and that we have actually lost thousands of jobs during his time in office." host.madison.com/wsj/news...politics/governor-s-jobs- promise-is-still-off-pace/article_40ace7c4-6956-11e1-8f41-001871e3ce6c.html
"If you voted for Obama in 2008 to prove you're not a racist, you'll need to vote for someone else in 2012 to prove you're not an idiot."
LMAO. Damn, that was good!!!!!!!!!!!!
To: mcToejam, rat-boy, drippy, Alzheimer Fred, whitesands, t-bird, Was your point relevant to the thread topic Walker's Wis. Lost Most Jobs in Nation ? If not, who cares. Disinformation Rule #18. Emotionalize, Antagonize, and Goad Opponents. Eric provides some examples: LoonyMing (one person using two screen-names), rat-boy and Brian S, are all hard-core leftists. They squeal like stuck pigs if the socket-puppet sitting in the White House has an "R" after their name, and turn into complete suck-ups, if the sock-puppet wears a "D." Of course, the sock-puppets do the bidding of their masters (bankster-class), and are turning the country into a full-tilt police state... But to these moronic leftists, it's good if the boot that's on your neck is the left boot, and bad if it's the right boot. Of course, this also ties in to the Obvious Traits of Disinformationalists: 1) Avoidance - check; 2) Selectivity - check; 4) Teamwork - check Your score, Eric is 75% - good work
Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady
Ooh, you're actually trying now, eh? Ok, I'm good with that. I was responding to something Anthem said. His point was precise, and elegant. I simply added to it. It was YOU who attempted to divert, and you failed. Which brings us back to another point: You BRAG about your ignorance, and have it as your friggin' signature. So this leads to the logical question, which I've posed to you FOUR times. What makes you think your ignorant opinion has any value? Since when is stating objective FACT "disinformation?" You ADMITTED you're also Ming. Want me to provide the link, where you fucked up, and exposed yourself? Wanna' go down that road again, buttercup? But really, these are all games of semantics for you, because you think that you can "argue" against facts, even if you have to redefine words to suit your desires... You're just so desperate to divert attention away from facts, that you openly buy into Orwell's laws (WAR IS PEACE, FREEDOM IS SLAVERY, and IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH). Indeed, that is EXACTLY what your signature infers... Which means you are truly delusional.
To: mcToejam, rat-boy, drippy, Alzheimer Fred, whitesands, t-bird, Like my new signature???? ;^)
Sig of LoonyMing: Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady Translation: WAR IS PEACE, FREEDOM IS SLAVERY, and IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH LoonyMing, you are one sick bitch.
Translation: WAR IS PEACE, FREEDOM IS SLAVERY, and IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH LoonyMing, you are one sick bitch. And a clueless blowhard is Eric as that is not my tagline. And I doubt you are impressing Buckaroo.
Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET
SURE it is. You already admitted you're Ming and Loony. You're splitting hairs, you dopey bitch. Get back to what you're best at- being a sperm receptacle.
Sig of LoonyMing: Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady Translation: WAR IS PEACE, FREEDOM IS SLAVERY, and IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH LoonyMing, you are one sick bitch.
My response remains the same. Since when is stating objective FACT "disinformation?" You ADMITTED you're also Ming. Want me to provide the link, where you fucked up, and exposed yourself? Wanna' go down that road again, buttercup? That can't be as objective fact because it isn't true - kinda puts the disinformation shoe on the other foot. Which means you are truly delusional. One of us is delusional, that's for sure.
Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady
I doubt it surprises anyone that that's how you see women.
Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady
Another failure to respond. No surprise, really. You CAN'T answer, because the logic is implacable, and you are once again trapped by it. I also noticed you failed to accept my challenge to expose you (lucysIDIOTmom=Ming), but that's not a surprise, either. After all, you're trying to make it appear that you have some valid position, and at the same time, divert attention away from the fact that you're a boot-licking, brain- washed moron. Bottom line: you're a fucking idiot, you're proud of your idiocy, and your ignorance is proudly displayed with every idiotic post you make. Thanks for the clarification- I knew you had it in you. To be marketable in any job, you must have some activity between the ears. Since you don't, and you're proud of it... It can easily be extrapolated that your only marketable skill is the oldest profession there is. I don't see all women that way. I just see YOU that way. You're a dumb, worthless cunt. And I really mean that.
Sig of LoonyMing: Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady Translation: WAR IS PEACE, FREEDOM IS SLAVERY, and IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH LoonyMing, you are one sick bitch.
You already admitted you're Ming and Loony. You're splitting hairs, you dopey bitch. Get back to what you're best at- being a sperm receptacle. I love how you Ron Paul supporters aren't afraid to show your ignorance and misogynistic tendencies in public.
Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET
Must be why he was forced to buy a foreign wife. Although I bet the last one showed him a thing or two.
Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET
I wonder how much the foreign wife cost? Judging by the hate he displays for American women, she showed him but good.
Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady
#20. To: Ferret Mike (#19)
I just got done slamming the holocaust in Germany during WW II and I'm not Jewish, gay or a member of any other target group of that genocide.
#21. To: TooConservative (#20)
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"You libs are obsessed with race. The biggest racists I've ever met except for a couple of guys I once met from Mississippi."
#22. To: Ferret Mike (#21)
I didn't marry because my ex-wife is black. And we didn't split because of racial difference either. Race is just a normal part of the human variable. Just as gender preference is.
#23. To: TooConservative (#22)
I didn't marry because my ex-wife is black. And we didn't split because of racial difference either. Race is just a normal part of the human variable. Just as gender preference is.
#24. To: TooConservative (#22)
#25. To: mininggold (#23)
"Your standard Alinsky reply when you are trapped in a corner."
#26. To: Ferret Mike (#25)
Well put. I love it when you show them they use the same tactics they accuse others of. Good post.
#27. To: Ferret Mike (#0)
#28. To: mininggold (#23)
#29. To: Anthem (#27)
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"This forum is apparently of the latter generations."
#30. To: TooConservative (#20)
You libs are obsessed with race. The biggest racists I've ever met ...
#31. To: TooConservative (#28)
"I just don't want to discuss your unsavory sexual habits."
#32. To: Anthem (#27)
Cutting government jobs to prevent the further drag of debt on the state budget allows that saved money (both salaries and debt service) to be re-invested in more productive jobs.
#33. To: TooConservative (#28)
I just don't want to discuss your unsavory sexual habits.
#34. To: Ferret Mike (#29)
And if you wish to debate this in a way not usually seen at LF, I assure you I would be most happy to.
#35. To: lucysmom (#32)
#36. To: Ferret Mike (#29)
Ferret: "And if you wish to debate this in a way not usually seen at LF, I assure you I would be most happy to. "
#37. To: TooConservative (#36)
#38. To: Anthem (#27)
Date: April 24, 2012
Of the three polls conducted, PPP is closest to our findings in this district and we both show the contest within the margin of error. Specifically, our live dial poll shows Democrat John Lehman starting just above majority status against Republican Van Wanggaard, 51 to 47 percent, within our survey’s margin of error. PPP showed the contest within the margin as well, though in Wanggaard’s favor, 46 to 48 percent. Regardless of who is right, there is little to no question that this race will come down to the wire.
Notably our data differ substantially from the PPP survey in this district. Specifically, our polling shows Democrat Kristen Dexter locked in a bitterly close dead heat with Republican incumbent Terry Moulton, 47 to 49 percent. PPP’s survey has the contest a 10-point race, Moulton’s favor, 41 to 51 percent.
This contest pairs two members of the Assembly for this open seat, Democrat Donna Seidel and Republican Jerry Petrowski. Again, despite the historic competitive nature of this district, which had a 52.7 percent Democratic performance rating in 2010 according to NCEC, PPP’s polling has this contest a near blowout with Petrowski besting Seidel by double-digits, 37 to 51 percent. Our polling shows a far more competitive contest from the start with the candidates locked in a much tighter 6-point race with Seidel at 45 percent to Petrowski’s 51 percent.
PPP also draws a fairly dangerous conclusion claiming they are seeing more Republican energy in these races. Our polling, and a comparison of our time series in the two districts where we have it, could not differ more substantially from their conclusion. Indeed, we see the opposite trend, and find it to be one of the most encouraging findings in our research. Specifically in 2010 in the two of these three districts we polled we faced a massive enthusiasm gap and party self-identification lagged dramatically behind what we would have expected given historical performance. However, that was then and today we see the opposite. Partisan identification has improved and is back to the level we would expect and more importantly, enthusiasm about the recall elections has rebounded and is at parity today, as shown in the graphs here. All in all, and contrary to PPP’s assertion, these contests are incredibly competitive and Democrats are clearly primed and energized to vote. Notably, Democrats need just one win to take the majority while Republicans need to run the table. Our data puts the odds on Democrats taking back the Senate.
#39. To: Anthem (#27)
Sometime in the last 30 years that good spirit was lost and the cheer is now: "Our team is red hot, your team ain't doodly-squat!"
The economy is wonderful!
Re-elect Obama, he'll pay your rent!
A chicken in every pot!
-- Baghdad Bri-bri -- loonymom, ming, e-type jackoff, goober56, wreck, cal-CON, rabid dog, dummy DwarF, biff, harrowup the communist, and meguro. You're on the "a waste of human flesh" list. Brian S[ocialist], you're a propagandist moron. ALL of you can piss off.
#40. To: Ferret Mike (#37)
Yet conservative billionaire cultist Sun Myung Moon runs the Washington Times, a hack conservative paper that is merely a trapping of his desire to work his cult and political paradigm into a position of global hegemony.
#41. To: Capitalist Eric, Anthem (#39)
LoonyMing (one person using two screen-names), rat-boy and Brian S, are all hard-core leftists.
#42. To: Anthem (#27)
#43. To: mininggold (#41)
Didn't your mother warn you?
#44. To: Ferret Mike (#42)
#45. To: lucysmom (#43)
His mother excused his anti-social behavior telling him he was a smart boy who didn't suffer fools.
#46. To: mininggold (#45)
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"lucysmom":His mother excused his anti-social behavior telling him he was a smart boy who didn't suffer fools.
"Ming": She evidently didn't care if he ever learned from experience. LoonyMing (one person using two screen-names), rat-boy and Brian S, are all hard-core leftists.
Usually in connection with one of the other ploys listed here, find a way to side-track the discussion with abrasive or controversial comments in hopes of turning attention to a new, more manageable topic. This works especially well with companions who can 'argue' with you over the new topic and polarize the discussion arena in order to avoid discussing more key issues.
If you can't do anything else, chide and taunt your opponents and draw them into emotional responses which will tend to make them look foolish and overly motivated, and generally render their material somewhat less coherent. Not only will you avoid discussing the issues in the first instance, but even if their emotional response addresses the issue, you can further avoid the issues by then focusing on how 'sensitive they are to criticism.'
They never actually discuss issues head-on or provide constructive input, generally avoiding citation of references or credentials. Rather, they merely imply this, that, and the other. Virtually everything about their presentation implies their authority and expert knowledge in the matter without any further justification for credibility.
They tend to pick and choose opponents carefully, either applying the hit-and- run approach against mere commentators supportive of opponents, or focusing heavier attacks on key opponents who are known to directly address issues. Should a commentator become argumentative with any success, the focus will shift to include the commentator as well. 3) Coincidental
They tend to operate in self-congratulatory and complementary packs or teams. Of course, this can happen naturally in any public forum, but there will likely be an ongoing pattern of frequent exchanges of this sort where professionals are involved. Sometimes one of the players will infiltrate the opponent camp to become a source for straw man or other tactics designed to dilute opponent presentation strength.
The economy is wonderful!
Re-elect Obama, he'll pay your rent!
A chicken in every pot!
-- Baghdad Bri-bri -- loonymom, ming, e-type jackoff, goober56, wreck, cal-CON, rabid dog, dummy DwarF, biff, harrowup the communist, and meguro. You're on the "a waste of human flesh" list. Brian S[ocialist], you're a propagandist moron. ALL of you can piss off.
#47. To: Ferret Mike (#0)
#48. To: TooConservative (#14)
To LoonyMing: Shouldn't you be out preparing to celebrate the glorious dictatorship of the proletariat on May Day? Oops, I forgot that we got rid of that noxious commie holiday. My bad. I know you guys get kinda touchy about that this time of year.
The economy is wonderful!
Re-elect Obama, he'll pay your rent!
A chicken in every pot!
-- Baghdad Bri-bri -- loonymom, ming, e-type jackoff, goober56, wreck, cal-CON, rabid dog, dummy DwarF, biff, harrowup the communist, and meguro. You're on the "a waste of human flesh" list. Brian S[ocialist], you're a propagandist moron. ALL of you can piss off.
#49. To: Capitalist Eric (#46)
Another attempt to divert attention from the point I made:
#50. To: lucysmom, Anthem, A K A Stone (#49)
Was your point relevant to the thread topic Walker's Wis. Lost Most Jobs in Nation ? If not, who cares.
Disinformation Rule #18. Emotionalize, Antagonize, and Goad Opponents. Eric provides some examples: LoonyMing (one person using two screen- names), rat-boy and Brian S, are all hard-core leftists.
The economy is wonderful!
Re-elect Obama, he'll pay your rent!
A chicken in every pot!
-- Baghdad Bri-bri -- loonymom, ming, e-type jackoff, goober56, wreck, cal-CON, rabid dog, dummy DwarF, biff, harrowup the communist, and meguro. You're on the "a waste of human flesh" list. Brian S[ocialist], you're a propagandist moron. ALL of you can piss off.
#51. To: lucysmom, Anthem, A K A Stone (#50)
The economy is wonderful!
Re-elect Obama, he'll pay your rent!
A chicken in every pot!
-- Baghdad Bri-bri --
#52. To: Capitalist Eric, Buckaroo (#51)
Sig of LoonyMing: Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady
#53. To: mininggold (#52)
The economy is wonderful!
Re-elect Obama, he'll pay your rent!
A chicken in every pot!
-- Baghdad Bri-bri --
#54. To: Capitalist Eric (#50)
What makes you think your ignorant opinion has any value?
#55. To: Capitalist Eric (#53)
Get back to what you're best at- being a sperm receptacle.
#56. To: lucysmom, mininggold, A K A Stone (#54)
Capitalist Eric: What makes you think your ignorant opinion has any value?
LoonyBitch: My response remains the same. Capitalist Eric: Get back to what you're best at- being a sperm receptacle.
LoonyBitch: I doubt it surprises anyone that that's how you see women.
The economy is wonderful!
Re-elect Obama, he'll pay your rent!
A chicken in every pot!
-- Baghdad Bri-bri --
#57. To: Capitalist Eric (#53)
SURE it is.
#58. To: lucysmom (#55)
I doubt it surprises anyone that that's how you see women.
#59. To: mininggold (#58)
Must be why he was forced to buy a foreign wife. Although I bet the last one showed him a thing or two.
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