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Title: California Land Use Declares War on Suburbia – No Backyards and No Cars
Source: GFP.com
URL Source: http://godfatherpolitics.com/4700/c ... rbia-no-backyards-and-no-cars/
Published: Apr 16, 2012
Author: Giacomo
Post Date: 2012-04-16 18:28:32 by CZ82
Keywords: None
Views: 10017
Comments: 33

California Land Use Declares War on Suburbia – No Backyards and No Cars

April 14, 2012 by Giacomo

In 2006 California passed Assembly Bill 32 otherwise known as the Global Warming Solutions Act. The purpose of the bill was to establish long range statewide programs to help reduce greenhouse gas emissions to 1990 levels by the year 2020. The bill established mandatory caps on numerous sources of greenhouse gas emissions by this year, 2012.

In 2008 California passed Senate Bill 375 known as the Sustainable Communities and Climate Protection Act. The target of this bill was automobiles and their emissions which according to the statistics used to help pass the bill, constitute up to 30% of all greenhouse gas emissions in the state. The measure sought ways to reduce the amount of auto emissions using technology along with the reduction of the number of cars and distances people are commuting to and from work.

Using these two measures as their guidelines, state, county and city land planners are looking at ways to bring people closer to jobs and well, just plain closer together. For example, any new developments in the San Francisco Bay area will have to develop the property with no fewer than twenty housing units per acre. The current density requirement is no fewer than 4 units per acre.

Instead of single family homes, most of the future development will be duplexes, triplexes, condos and apartments. Some of the planners are looking at European models such as the way the Swedes live like sardines packed close together in a can.

One of the problems facing land planners is that more and more people have been moving away from the cities out to the suburban areas. This has led to an increase in the number of automobiles and the distances they are traveling, thus an increase in the amount of auto emissions.

To solve this problem, they are looking at ways to bring people back to the city. One of the ways they plan to do this is to limit the amount of development in the suburban and rural areas and direct their efforts to redeveloping urban corridors. By packing people back into downtown housing they hope to eliminate cars and commuting.

Other areas in California will be limited to what they call transit villages which will have a minimum of 30 units per acre. By 2035, more than two-thirds of regional new housing developments will be condos and apartments.

As I read this report in the Wall Street Journal, I couldn’t help but recall my impressions of New York City when I visited family there when I was a kid. Tall apartment buildings everywhere and no one had a backyard, a tree to climb, or a car to drive. They took the subway, busses or taxis everywhere they went. Their life was reminded me of the ant farm I had back home. When I looked out of my aunt’s apartment window, everyone down below looked like ants scurrying to and fro.

California wants to become like Sweden and New York City. As for me, that’s just another reason why I wouldn’t want to live there.

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#1. To: CZ82 (#0)

Don't worry.

suburgatory being evac'ed at massive rate.

Can't afford the gas.

As soon as they get to urban core, the car is ditched.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-17   10:24:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: All (#1)

Climate change- and Peak Oil deniers are like turkeys who gather in a corner of the farm convincing each other that this mysterious circumstance called ‘Thanksgiving’ is a fraud.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-17   10:25:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: mcgowanjm (#1)

Don't worry.

suburgatory being evac'ed at massive rate.

Can't afford the gas.

As soon as they get to urban core, the car is ditched.

Urban housing is now outselling suburban housing for the first time in my lifetime. You can blame Ike for all of our current problems.

Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET

mininggold  posted on  2012-04-17   10:44:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: CZ82 (#0)

They took the subway, busses or taxis everywhere they went.

Friends in San Francisco have cars but leave them garaged most of the time because it is cheaper and easier to take public transportation. If you'd ever tried to find a parking space in SF, you'd understand.

Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady

lucysmom  posted on  2012-04-17   11:17:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: CZ82, *Extended Clip Progressives* (#0)

Global Warming Solutions Act

Urban FEMA camps. Get everyone in the city and then all that's left to do, is the fence and razor wire.

Packed like sardines between progressive jack booted thugs, and forced to listen to Obongo teleprompter readings.


"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul

Obama's watch stopped on 24 May 2008, but he's been too busy smoking crack to notice.

Hondo68  posted on  2012-04-17   11:18:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: hondo68 (#5) (Edited)

Packed like sardines between progressive jack booted thugs, and forced to listen to Obongo teleprompter readings.

You mean you don't like the way it was done in the 'Good Old Days', to which every true conservative wants to return? Just change the scene to locked exits, and 18 hour shifts.

Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET

mininggold  posted on  2012-04-17   12:12:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: mcgowanjm (#2)

Climate change- and Peak Oil deniers are like turkeys who gather in a corner of the farm convincing each other that this mysterious circumstance called ‘Thanksgiving’ is a fraud.

mctoejam you are THE poster child for libTURD stupidity.

There is no such thing as "peak oil", SCIENCE shows this you gibbering FOOL. How much time do you have in petro engineering you simpleton DNC parrot? NONE is how much. In fact moron, oil may well be ABIOTIC.

Nobody denies "climate change" you blithering libTURD parrot idiot. SCIENCE denies HUMAN CAUSED climate change. I understand that a fool such as YOU cannot understand the actual SCIENCE and so you just parrot what your DNC masters tell you to spew.

If there is anybody around here in denial it's YOU and your gibbering bunny hugging ilk mctoejam.

LOL!

What arrogant FOOLS you libTURDS are!

What useful IDIOTS you are!

FOOL.

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-04-17   14:17:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Mad Dog (#7)

SCIENCE denies HUMAN CAUSED climate change.

What science shows that?

NewsJunky  posted on  2012-04-17   15:29:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: hondo68 (#5)

Urban FEMA camps. Get everyone in the city and then all that's left to do, is the fence and razor wire.

Packed like sardines between progressive jack booted thugs, and forced to listen to Obongo teleprompter readings.

That reminds me of the movie "Escape from New York", starring Kurt Russell AKA Snake Plisken!!!

"If you voted for Obama in 2008 to prove you're not a racist, you'll need to vote for someone else in 2012 to prove you're not an idiot."

CZ82  posted on  2012-04-17   17:13:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: NewsJunky (#8)

SCIENCE denies HUMAN CAUSED climate change.

What science shows that?

"The Science of Sane People"...

"If you voted for Obama in 2008 to prove you're not a racist, you'll need to vote for someone else in 2012 to prove you're not an idiot."

CZ82  posted on  2012-04-17   17:21:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: NewsJunky (#8)

You could start here:

wattsupwiththat.com/resources/

SJN  posted on  2012-04-17   17:33:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: lucysmom (#4)

Friends in San Francisco have cars but leave them garaged most of the time because it is cheaper and easier to take public transportation. If you'd ever tried to find a parking space in SF, you'd understand.

Certain areas of London and Rome are the same way during the work week....

I think the absolute worst/funniest place I ever had to drive was in Khartoum, Sudan..... Say you have a 8 lane highway (4 lanes going each direction) and nobody was coming towards you from the other direction, everybody would spread out over all 8 lanes to try to get around slower traffic (buses, ox and donkey pulled carts) then make a mad dash to get back in the correct lane before the next traffic light..... LOL....

"If you voted for Obama in 2008 to prove you're not a racist, you'll need to vote for someone else in 2012 to prove you're not an idiot."

CZ82  posted on  2012-04-17   17:45:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: NewsJunky (#8)

SCIENCE denies HUMAN CAUSED climate change.

What science shows that?

ALL HONEST SCIENCE denies anthropomorphic climate change.

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-04-17   18:36:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: CZ82 (#12)

I think the absolute worst/funniest place I ever had to drive was in Khartoum, Sudan.....

Cairo, back in the early 70s was under a blackout, that made night time driving thrilling to say the least.

Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady

lucysmom  posted on  2012-04-17   20:26:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: mcgowanjm (#1)

suburgatory being evac'ed at massive rate.

Can't afford the gas.

As soon as they get to urban core, the car is ditched.

Without jobs nobody's moving anywhere, much less into expensive cities.

Thunderbird  posted on  2012-04-17   20:58:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: mininggold (#3)

You can blame Ike for all of our current problems.

I've got my System Railroad, Emergency mule breeding program all ready....

Get the GSA on the line...we can work together....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-17   20:59:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Thunderbird (#15)

Without jobs nobody's moving anywhere, much less into expensive cities.

Easy cheap transport trumps all.

See ghettoes for details.

BTW, speaking of ghettoes, hear about that Prison takeover in Brazil?

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-17   21:02:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Mad Dog (#13)

ALL HONEST SCIENCE

Who decides what is honest science?

NewsJunky  posted on  2012-04-17   23:48:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: NewsJunky (#18)

Who decides what is honest science?

LOL!

Spare me from such ignorance!

Don't you know what SCIENCE is watermelon?

PUBLIC, HONEST DISCUSSION of the allegations made by Independent scientists based on repeatable EXPERIMENTS, using empirical data, supported by the repeating of the results that others have found using the same verified and valid sort of data and methods.

(It's called "the scientific method", you brainwashed idiot.)

I'm not going to argue minutiae with you watermelon, you are a credulous true believer.

When you get the above we'll talk, (but this time you'll need to use non MADE UP "DATA").

Until then, piss off.

Your bunny hugging delusions bore the hell out of me.

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-04-18   1:49:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: NewsJunky (#18)

ALL HONEST SCIENCE

Who decides what is honest science?

Here ya go bunny hugger.

Read and TRY to LEARN.

"Introduction to the Scientific Method

The scientific method is the process by which scientists, collectively and over time, endeavor to construct an accurate (that is, reliable, consistent and non-arbitrary) representation of the world.

Recognizing that personal and cultural beliefs influence both our perceptions and our interpretations of natural phenomena, we aim through the use of standard procedures and criteria to minimize those influences when developing a theory.

As a famous scientist once said, "Smart people (like smart lawyers) can come up with very good explanations for mistaken points of view."

In summary, the scientific method attempts to minimize the influence of bias or prejudice in the experimenter when testing an hypothesis or a theory.

The scientific method has four steps

1. Observation and description of a phenomenon or group of phenomena.

2. Formulation of an hypothesis to explain the phenomena. In physics, the hypothesis often takes the form of a causal mechanism or a mathematical relation.

3. Use of the hypothesis to predict the existence of other phenomena, or to predict quantitatively the results of new observations.

4. Performance of experimental tests of the predictions by several independent experimenters and properly performed experiments."

If the experiments bear out the hypothesis it may come to be regarded as a theory or law of nature (more on the concepts of hypothesis, model, theory and law below). If the experiments do not bear out the hypothesis, it must be rejected or modified. What is key in the description of the scientific method just given is the predictive power (the ability to get more out of the theory than you put in; see Barrow, 1991) of the hypothesis or theory, as tested by experiment. It is often said in science that theories can never be proved, only disproved. There is always the possibility that a new observation or a new experiment will conflict with a long-standing theory."

MORE ...

teacher.n srl.rochester.ed.../AppendixE/AppendixE.html

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-04-18   16:17:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Mad Dog (#19)

PUBLIC, HONEST DISCUSSION of the allegations made by Independent scientists based on repeatable EXPERIMENTS

I thought it was the scientists through doing science that decide what honest science is. Not lay people such as you or I.

NewsJunky  posted on  2012-04-18   16:47:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: NewsJunky (#21)

I thought...

No, you didn't.

And therein lies the problem.


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Re-elect Obama, he'll pay your rent!
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Capitalist Eric  posted on  2012-04-18   18:05:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: NewsJunky (#21)

.

You "thought" wrong.

What part of this don't you understand?

Your bunny hugging zealots LIED about their data. They cherry picked and made "data" up out of whole cloth. They LIED to each other and the public. They NEVER had SCIENCE behind their LIES.

The SCIENCE never said what they said that it said.

You see in SCIENCE words actually mean specific things.

SCIENCE is done by the SCIENTIFIC METHOD, by people who are not all card carrying "scientists".

Ever heard of the Wright brothers?

Even you could do science IF you use the scientific method.

Science isn't up to a "vote". It has to be backed up by REPEATABLE practical EXPERIMENTS.

Get with the program.

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-04-18   18:10:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Mad Dog, NewsJunky (#23)

Your bunny hugging zealots LIED about their data. They cherry picked and made "data" up out of whole cloth. They LIED to each other and the public. They NEVER had SCIENCE behind their LIES.

And on top of that they even admitted doing it!!!!

"If you voted for Obama in 2008 to prove you're not a racist, you'll need to vote for someone else in 2012 to prove you're not an idiot."

CZ82  posted on  2012-04-18   19:09:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: CZ82, NewsJunky (#24)

And on top of that they even admitted doing it!!!!

Yet the cult still rolls on.

It's purposeful invincible IGNORANCE, spit flecked delusional in the face of actual FACTS and SCIENCE!

It's white knuckles grasping at the scope of the FRAUD they worship.

Their insufferable DELUSIONS and LIES kicked in the noggin by the spring colts of FACTS and true SCIENTIFIC METHOD, ergo by SCIENCE! the very SCIENCE that these trolls claim to worship!

Proving, yet again, that this ALL actually has shit all to do with climate change.

It's ALL about POWER.

POWER of the STATE.

It always has been.

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-04-19   1:11:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Thunderbird (#15)

Without jobs nobody's moving anywhere, much less into expensive cities.

Except in this case they;ll have to.

The suburbs they live in are literally (out West) located in the middle of the desert.

And the others are located in 'Deserts' meaning absolutely no life support functions.

Cheap gas and low cost housing was the only thing making these places viable.

Now they'll be abandoned. See Las Vegas for details.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-19   9:11:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Capitalist Eric (#22)

I thought...

No, you didn't.

And therein lies the problem.

Oh Eric, you need to spice up your insults with a little variety.

Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady

lucysmom  posted on  2012-04-19   9:51:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: Mad Dog (#23)

Your bunny hugging zealots LIED about their data.

Who said they lied about their data? Find some objective source that says they lied. I bet you can't..

NewsJunky  posted on  2012-04-19   22:42:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: NewsJunky (#28)

MD; Your bunny hugging zealots LIED about their data.

TOOL; Who said they lied about their data? Find some objective source that says they lied. I bet you can't..

LMAO!

THEY, your heros, have ADMITTED it FOOL!

They have been found to have done so in COURT!

LOL! You MORON!

Don't even TRY to squirm you slimy watermelon.

It's LAST YEAR'S news you gibbering TOOL!

There ya have it folks! more PROOF that you really do HAVE to be STUPID to be a libTURD!

LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-04-20   1:09:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: Mad Dog (#29)

It's LAST YEAR'S news you gibbering TOOL!

If you are talking about the emails I haven't seen any respected news organization claim they are evidence of fraudulent data. Maybe you can link me to one. An unbiased objective one. Just one..

NewsJunky  posted on  2012-04-21   3:16:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: NewsJunky (#30)

It's LAST YEAR'S news you gibbering TOOL!

TOOL; If you are talking about the emails I haven't seen any respected news organization claim they are evidence of fraudulent data. Maybe you can link me to one. An unbiased objective one. Just one..

.

LOL!

Piss OFF watermelon!

I couldn't care less what you do or do not believe FOOL.

I'm not going to debate your delusions with you FOOL.

PROVE MAN MADE/CAUSED Global WARMING or COOLING you gibbering watermelon chimp, or shut the F up.

Spare me the I can't show you another side, I certainly can.

But it's no use, you are a true believer, your church is the church of man made glow bull warming.

YOU are just another useful IDIOT.

You are a TOOL.

I piss on you and your big gooberment approach to ALL of life.

PROVE your assertions without making data up or changing it or cherry picking it.

Tell me the answer to one simple question TOOL, "how much of the thermal exchange in the global system is due to WATER VAPOR?"

Tell us ALL TOOL, how the total system water vapor was measured and how it was calculated.

Then show us ALL where YOUR number for WATER VAPOR and your calculations of it have been repeated and verified by independent researchers.

Then azzwipe show us where YOUR number for said WATER VAPOR has been accepted industry wide as a VALID and ACCURATE number.

I'd say I'd wait but I won't wait FOREVER because you gibbering simpleton you can't even describe in a rigorous manner the main player in GLOBAL weather change.

So, I say again watermelon;

PISS OFF!

LOL!

FOOL.

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-04-21   14:03:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: Mad Dog (#31) (Edited)

Tell me the answer to one simple question TOOL, "how much of the thermal exchange in the global system is due to WATER VAPOR?"

Tell us ALL TOOL, how the total system water vapor was measured and how it was calculated.

I am not a climate scientist and I have no idea. Are you a climate scientist or do you depend on what you are TOLD on biased right wing web sites? While at the same time ignoring all the science presented by climate scientists.

NewsJunky  posted on  2012-04-21   18:46:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: NewsJunky (#32)

TOOL; I am not a climate scientist and I have no idea. Are you a climate scientist or do you depend on what you are TOLD on biased right wing web sites? While at the same time ignoring all the science presented by climate scientists.

No I'm not a climate "scientist".

I'm just a trained electronics engineer who knows how the scientific method works and what pier review journals are. I'm just trained in the use and understanding of statistics and probability and modeling and such things.

I just have experience matching engineering solutions to real world problems.

I just know how to define a problem, and then TEST my assertions in THAT REAL WORLD.

Unlike YOU and the general public I know BULLSHIT when people try to pass BULLSHIT off as SCIENCE. Because of my TRAINING and EXPERIENCE.

You see TOOL, I depend on ME and others smarter than me to decide what is real and what is BULLSHIT, "science" wise.

Am I naturally smarter or "better" than YOU and people like YOU?

Maybe, at least when it when it comes to actually DOING "science".

Do you know what "GARBAGE in GARBAGE out" MEANS TOOL?

You really should, because it defines the so called "science" the glow bull warming/change hucksters are selling.

Bottom line TOOL, when you explore something with SCIENCE, you don't manipulate your data and models to get the results that you WANT.

THAT'S NOT SCIENCE, IT'S PROPAGANDA.

Get a clue TOOL.

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-04-22   14:01:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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