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Title: Ron Paul Shocks Campaign Staff With New Position On Israel (would move US embassy to Jerusalem if requested)
Source: Business Insider
URL Source: http://articles.businessinsider.com ... lical-leaders-business-insider
Published: Apr 14, 2012
Author: Grace Wyler
Post Date: 2012-04-14 17:41:20 by Hondo68
Keywords: what does Israel want, recognizing Jerusalem as capit, candidate and evangelical lead
Views: 12513
Comments: 41

Republican presidential hopeful Ron Paul revealed this week that he would support moving the U.S. Embassy in Israel to Jerusalem, a surprising position that contradicts conventional wisdom about Paul's stance toward the Jewish state.

Paul first made this position known Wednesday night, during a private meeting with evangelical leaders interested in helping the Texas Congressman reach out to the conservative Christian community.

According to a transcript of the meeting obtained by Business Insider, the leaders started off the meeting by asking Paul whether he would sign an Executive Order to move the U.S. Embassy in Israel from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem, a major policy objective for Israeli hardliners and many leaders in the Christian Right.

"The real issue here is not what America wants, but what does Israel want," Paul told evangelical leaders, according to a transcript of the meeting obtained by Business Insider. "If Israel wants their capital to be Jerusalem, then the United States should honor that."

"How would we like it if some other nation said 'We decided to recognize New York City as your capital instead, so we will build our embassy there?'" he added.

Even Paul's senior campaign aides were surprised by his response.

"We were floored," senior advisor Doug Wead told Business Insider. "It sounds like pure Ron Paul, but it still caught us off guard...If someone would have asked him that in a national debate, I suppose it would have popped right out, but nobody did!"

Wead added that Paul's position "makes sense after the fact," noting that the candidate has frequently emphasized Israel's sovereignty.

Still, Paul's stance will likely come as a surprise to GOP leaders, most of whom view Paul's non-interventionist foreign policy ideas — and particularly his stance towards Israel — as his greatest weakness. The septuagenarian Congressman has largely been snubbed by the right-wing Jewish community, and was even excluded from a December presidential candidates' forum hosted by the Republican Jewish Coalition because of his "misguided and extreme" foreign policy views.

"I appreciate what he said about Israel — as a matter of fact, I was pleasantly surprised," Brian Jacobs, a Texas pastor who attended Wednesday's meeting, told Business Insider. "It helped answer a lot of questions that I had."

Ironically, Paul and Newt Gingrich are now the only presidential candidates who have said that they are in favor of recognizing Jerusalem as the capital of Israel and moving the U.S. Embassy there. President Barack Obama has postponed moving the Embassy. Romney "would like to see the U.S. Embassy eventually moved to Jerusalem," campaign spokesman Andrea Saul said in a statement emailed to Business Insider.

While Paul's position is unlikely to change the near-certain outcome of the Republican primary, it could help Paul gain support among evangelical leaders, many of whom have been hesitant to support Romney. Jacobs, who works as a consultant for televangelist Billy Graham's organizations, told Business Insider that several evangelical leaders — including heavyweight televangelist like James Robison and Will Graham — have started to express interest in talking to Paul in the wake of Rick Santorum's departure from the race.

Jacobs said he is now working with the Paul campaign to organize conference calls between the candidate and evangelical leaders. Christian television producer Justin Machacek, who also attended Wednesday's meeting, said he is working on arranging a larger meeting between Paul and other conservative Christian groups.

A relationship with Christian Right powerbrokers could give Ron Paul more leverage within the party, as Romney tries to unite the GOP after this year's divisive primary fight. It could also help broaden the Paul coalition, setting the stage for a future run by Paul's son, U.S. Sen. Rand Paul.

"100% of Christian leaders that I've talked to, do you know the one thing they like about Ron Paul? His son Rand Paul," Jacobs told Business Insider. "Every Christian leader will say, 'You know I'm not quite sure if Ron Paul can win the nomination'…but in the same breath, they tag it with, "But I sure do like the way his son has followed him.'"


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Gee, they finally realized that Ron Paul is a Christian.

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#6. To: hondo68 (#0) (Edited)

Oh please...

This is only a "new" position to neo-nazi scum who've tried to tag along with Paul , disregarding his libertarian positions.

If France says that Paris is their capital, it's not the U.S. government's business to challenge it.

ditto with any other country.

PERIOD.

jwpegler  posted on  2012-04-14   21:24:42 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: jwpegler (#6)

h please...

This is only a "new" position to neo-nazi scum who've tried to tag along with Paul , disregarding his libertarian positions.

If France says that Paris is their capital, it's not the U.S. government's business to challenge it.

ditto with any other country.

PERIOD.

Exactly. It boggles the mind that this is even a story.

I thought this was amusing:

a surprising position that contradicts conventional wisdom about Paul's stance toward the Jewish state.

a conventional wisdom that was created/manufactured by the two party fraud and their media sock puppets in order to ensure that Paul didn't become a danger to their agenda. This position is 100% consistent with what Dr Paul has been saying for more than 30 years.

The REAL news would have been if he had said something different.

Fibr Dog  posted on  2012-04-14   21:36:17 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Fibr Dog (#9)

a conventional wisdom that was created/manufactured by the two party fraud and their media sock puppets in order to ensure that Paul didn't become a danger to their agenda.

I think that somehow the evangelicals heard RP's remarks about ending all foreign aid (yes, including Israel, no, really, I'm not kidding, even Israel) as being tantamount to Ron Paul announcing his lifelong love and friendship for Yasser Arafat or something. The media poodles just kept asking him that question over and over, as though they could not believe that any human being could think such a thing.

This position is 100% consistent with what Dr Paul has been saying for more than 30 years.

It's shocking how shocked some people who no doubt watched all those boring debates are by all this.

Tooconservative  posted on  2012-04-14   21:44:44 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: TooConservative (#13) (Edited)

I think that somehow the evangelicals heard RP's remarks about ending all foreign aid (yes, including Israel, no, really, I'm not kidding, even Israel) as being tantamount to Ron Paul announcing his lifelong love and friendship for Yasser Arafat or something. The media poodles just kept asking him that question over and over, as though they could not believe that any human being could think such a thing.

But of course. A huge number of evangelicals/fundamentalists have made themselves subservient to the heresy of Judaism so when Dr. Paul had the nerve to include Israel in his remarks about ending foreign aid, he became enemy number 1. The mainstream media, being the propaganda department of the two party fraud, jumped on that issue in order to hurt Dr. Paul's ability to threaten their agenda.

It's shocking how shocked some people who no doubt watched all those boring debates are by all this.

I guess Dr. Paul's statements were so foreign to them that they were unable to comprehend what he was saying.

Fibr Dog  posted on  2012-04-14   21:54:29 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Fibr Dog (#15)

You could see the media poodles, little gears whirring in the their heads, like so:

end all foreign aid = end foreign aid even to Israel = Ron Paul is Hitler

It's so corny but predictable. What's humorous is how sophisticated and informed these people think they are.

Tooconservative  posted on  2012-04-14   22:01:24 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: TooConservative (#17)

You could see the media poodles, little gears whirring in the their heads, like so:

end all foreign aid = end foreign aid even to Israel = Ron Paul is Hitler

It's so corny but predictable. What's humorous is how sophisticated and informed these people think they are.

What's not so humorous though is the number of viewers who took their misrepresentation of Ron Paul to heart.

Fibr Dog  posted on  2012-04-14   22:04:46 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Fibr Dog (#20)

ok, forgive me. It's the chemo brain. Got ya now. I misunderstood.

: )))

SJN  posted on  2012-04-14   22:14:46 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: SJN (#21)

ok, forgive me. It's the chemo brain. Got ya now. I misunderstood.

: )))

No problem. It happens. I'm sorry to hear that you are having to deal with chemo. My prayers are with you and your family.

Fibr Dog  posted on  2012-04-14   22:25:14 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#30. To: Fibr Dog (#25)

Thank you so much. I don't like to use it as an excuse, but in all honestly it kind of messes with your cognitive ability.

I'm sorry I so misread and misunderstood your post.

You shouldn't of had to explain it to me, though I am so glad that you did.

SJN  posted on  2012-04-14 23:13:47 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: Fibr Dog (#25)

Thank you so much. I probably shouldn't even participate in these debate forums to tell you the truth. I've found that I forget so much and misconstrue others posts or intentions. (Not that I haven't done that with a less chemicalized brain). Don't wish to use it as an excuse, but do enjoy my time on these forums. And if I misunderstand, I am so happy when people are willing to point it out to me. Yet, do not want to take up a persons valuable time explaining stuff to a ludite.

: D

SJN  posted on  2012-04-15 01:48:43 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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