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Title: Zimmerman was on the ground being punched when he shot Trayvon Martin
Source: Examiner
URL Source: http://www.examiner.com/charleston- ... ed-when-he-shot-trayvon-martin
Published: Mar 24, 2012
Author: Kyle Rogers
Post Date: 2012-03-24 17:27:35 by A K A Stone
Keywords: None
Views: 21103
Comments: 69

Last weekend in the city of Chicago alone, gangbangers slaughtered ten people and wounded another forty. The youngest fatality is only six years old. The youngest person wounded is only one-year-old. Many of the victim were pedestrians sprayed with bullets in drive by shootings. The national news has said nothing about this.

So why does one shooting in Florida warrant weeks of national news? Why has there been thousands of articles a day, for the last four days, about one single shooting?

Almost all of the news items about George Zimmerman and Trayvon Martin contains a combination of false statements, opinions presented as facts, transparent distortions, and a complete absence of some of the most relevant details. Almost all news items are written soley from the point of view of the grieving family. The media also fills their articles with outdated baby-faced pictures of Trayvon. Very few include that he was a towering 6'2” football player. Is the media really reporting the news, or is this classic agitation/propaganda to advance a political agenda.

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#16. To: jwpegler (#13)

All muscle versus mostly fat.

100 lbs doesn't mean a damn thing.

Yeah right. That's why they don't have weight restriction classifications in sports such as boxing.

Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET

mininggold  posted on  2012-03-25   1:24:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Brian S (#15)

Say it ain't so...! lol

It's true.

www.huffingtonpost.com/20...von-martin_n_1335984.html

and then there's this:

The court records concern a conflict between Zimmerman and his ex-fiancée, who filed a petition accusing Zimmerman of pushing her during an argument at her Orlando home in August 2005.

articles.orlandosentinel....ons-documents-injunctions

2005 seems to have been a rough year for him.

Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady

lucysmom  posted on  2012-03-25   1:59:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: lucysmom, *Extended Clip Progressives* (#17)

In November 2002, Zimmerman claimed his ex had assaulted him with a baseball bat after he went to a concert without her.

A woman's right to choose! She could have used a tire iron.


"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul

Obama's watch stopped on 24 May 2008, but he's been too busy smoking crack to notice.

Hondo68  posted on  2012-03-25   7:45:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: hondo68 (#18)

A woman's right to choose! She could have used a tire iron.

I thought a skillet was the weapon of choice??

"If you voted for Obama in 2008 to prove you're not a racist, you'll need to vote for someone else in 2012 to prove you're not an idiot."

CZ82  posted on  2012-03-25   8:39:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Fred Mertz (#12)

Did you know the shooter weighed 100 lbs. more than the kid?

That is irrelevant. If the kid attacked him. He was right to defend himself.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-03-25   8:41:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: lucysmom (#14)

Did you know Zimmerman had an arrest record?

Yes. It said so in a early report. Irrelevant.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-03-25   8:42:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: lucysmom (#17)

The court records concern a conflict between Zimmerman and his ex-fiancée, who filed a petition accusing Zimmerman of pushing her during an argument at her Orlando home in August 2005.

Every woman who had an abortion should have a record. Only violent evil women have abortions.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-03-25   8:43:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: A K A Stone (#20)

That is irrelevant. If the kid attacked him. He was right to defend himself.

How did Zimmerman put himself in a position to get attacked?

Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady

lucysmom  posted on  2012-03-25   10:05:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: lucysmom (#23)

How did Zimmerman put himself in a position to get attacked?

He saw someone suspicious walking through his neighborhood. The kid was probably there to burglarize someone.

You are anti hispanic.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-03-25   10:07:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: A K A Stone (#21)

Yes. It said so in a early report. Irrelevant.

Would you think it mattered if the record belonged to the kid who was killed?

Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady

lucysmom  posted on  2012-03-25   10:10:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: lucysmom (#25)

Would you think it mattered if the record belonged to the kid who was killed?

It could be. But I think it is irrelevant because a witness has apparently come forward and said the black kid attacked the Mexican. If that is true then it is irrelevant if Zimmerman had a record. If the kid had a record of robbing people or places it would be relevant.

A domestic dispute between him and his wife is not relevant. That is my opinion.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-03-25   10:13:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: A K A Stone (#22)

Every woman who had an abortion should have a record. Only violent evil women have abortions.

Yet you would hold innocent a man who shot and killed an innocent 17-year old boy.

Interesting set of values you've got there Stone.

Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady

lucysmom  posted on  2012-03-25   10:14:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: lucysmom (#27)

Yet you would hold innocent a man who shot and killed an innocent 17-year old boy.

How do you know the black teenager was innocent? The new "witness" says the black teenager attacked. If that is true how is he innocent?

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-03-25   10:17:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: lucysmom (#27)

Interesting set of values you've got there Stone.

You support chopping babies into little pieces. You need to worry about your own values killer.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-03-25   10:18:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: A K A Stone (#24)

He saw someone suspicious walking through his neighborhood. The kid was probably there to burglarize someone.

And exactly what was it that made the kid suspect?

You are anti hispanic.

With a name like Zimmerman? He was half Peruvian. My mother's close friend when I was growing up was half Peruvian, and no one ever thought of her as anything but herself, a fine person and a good friend.

Obviously race matters a lot to you though.

Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady

lucysmom  posted on  2012-03-25   10:25:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: A K A Stone (#28)

How do you know the black teenager was innocent? The new "witness" says the black teenager attacked.

How did Zimmerman get himself in a position to be attacked?

Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady

lucysmom  posted on  2012-03-25   10:27:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: lucysmom (#30)

Obviously race matters a lot to you though.

Actually I consider there to be only one race. We are all decendants of Adam and Eve. We are all sexually compatible. We are one race with different characteristics. I judge by character not skin color.

You favor affirmative action don't you "racist"?

So you seem to be the one hung up on "race".

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-03-25   10:29:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: lucysmom (#31)

How did Zimmerman get himself in a position to be attacked?

So you are admitting Zimmerman was attacked?

How did the little babies in the womb get themselves in the position of being attacked?

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-03-25   10:30:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: A K A Stone (#29)

You support chopping babies into little pieces.

That is a lie. If you persist in telling lies, what does that make you?

You need to worry about your own values killer.

Another lie.

Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady

lucysmom  posted on  2012-03-25   10:31:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: lucysmom (#34)

You support chopping babies into little pieces.

That is a lie. If you persist in telling lies, what does that make you?

I may have been mistaken by your past comments.

So now go on the record and say abortion should be illegal.

The ball is in your court. We will see if you were lying.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-03-25   10:33:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: A K A Stone (#32)

Actually I consider there to be only one race.

Then why do you insist on inserting race into the discussion? Here's an example: "How do you know the black teenager was innocent?"

You favor affirmative action don't you "racist"?

Did you know affirmative action also applies to woman?

You seem to be pretty hung up on race.

Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady

lucysmom  posted on  2012-03-25   10:36:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: lucysmom (#36)

"How do you know the black teenager was innocent?"

That is an accurate description.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-03-25   10:38:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: lucysmom (#36)

Did you know affirmative action also applies to woman?

Yes, that is bullshit. Women are the majority.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-03-25   10:38:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: A K A Stone (#35)

So now go on the record and say abortion should be illegal.

нет политрук.

Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady

lucysmom  posted on  2012-03-25   10:41:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: A K A Stone (#37)

That is an accurate description.

How is that description relevant in this discussion?

Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady

lucysmom  posted on  2012-03-25   10:42:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: A K A Stone (#38)

Yes, that is bullshit. Women are the majority.

Are women also a majority in the ME? Would you say they are discriminated against?

Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady

lucysmom  posted on  2012-03-25   10:44:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: lucysmom (#39)

нет политрук.

Trnaslation: No political leader.

So you are a liar. You don't think abortion should be illegal, huh killer.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-03-25   10:44:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: lucysmom (#40)

How is that description relevant in this discussion?

Because it desribes one of the individuals.

If I said I think the one guy is innocent and the other guy is guilty. You wouldn't understand that. So you use descriptive words so you can understand what I am talking about.

The black guy. That means the black guy.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-03-25   10:45:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: lucysmom (#41)

Are women also a majority in the ME? Would you say they are discriminated against?

The women in Israel aren't discriminated against. The muslims think of women as slaves. So why again to you take the muslim side all the time?

I don't know if women are the majority or minority in the Middle East. I also don't care.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-03-25   10:47:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: A K A Stone (#42) (Edited)

So you are a liar. You don't think abortion should be illegal, huh killer.

And you hate small businesses and want people to starve or be dependent on huge corporations for their food. Enjoy your melamine sandwich.

Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET

mininggold  posted on  2012-03-25   11:11:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: A K A Stone (#44)

The women in Israel aren't discriminated against.

And Israel practices communism. Is there a correlation?

Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET

mininggold  posted on  2012-03-25   11:13:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: A K A Stone (#43)

Because it desribes one of the individuals.

If I said I think the one guy is innocent and the other guy is guilty.

So do names.

Or you could say the guy with the gun vs the guy with skittles, or any number of identifiers. It is telling that what pops into your mind is race.

Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady

lucysmom  posted on  2012-03-25   11:33:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: mininggold (#46)

And Israel practices communism. Is there a correlation?

Are you stupid or a liar or both. I think both.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-03-25   11:35:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: mininggold (#45)

And you hate small businesses and want people to starve or be dependent on huge corporations for their food. Enjoy your melamine sandwich.

You hate small businees and small children.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-03-25   11:35:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: A K A Stone (#44)

The muslims think of women as slaves.

So did many American men before the women's lib movement. Some would like it to be that way again.

Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady

lucysmom  posted on  2012-03-25   11:37:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: A K A Stone (#42)

Trnaslation: No political leader.

That's what's wrong with online translators.

Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady

lucysmom  posted on  2012-03-25   11:43:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: lucysmom (#51)

That's what's wrong with online translators.

Then tell me the meaning my little leftist friend.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-03-25   11:48:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: A K A Stone (#52)

Then tell me the meaning my little leftist friend.

No, commissar. Seemed Russian was the appropriate language to use when expressing opposition your particular brand of political correctness.

Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady

lucysmom  posted on  2012-03-25   11:50:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: lucysmom, A K A Stone (#36)

Did you know affirmative action also applies to woman?

So are you only a sexist pig, or a racist too?


"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul

Obama's watch stopped on 24 May 2008, but he's been too busy smoking crack to notice.

Hondo68  posted on  2012-03-25   11:56:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: hondo68 (#54)

So are you only a sexist pig, or a racist too?

and the old white boy network was what?

Ain't nothing like hanging out with "real" conservatives to convince me that racism and sexual discrimination is alive and well in the US.

Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady

lucysmom  posted on  2012-03-25   12:16:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: lucysmom, *Liberal Rehab Staff* (#55)

nothing like hanging out with "real" conservatives to convince me that racism and sexual discrimination is alive and well in the US.

That's great, admitting that you have a problem is the first step to recovery. Keep coming back!


"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul

Obama's watch stopped on 24 May 2008, but he's been too busy smoking crack to notice.

Hondo68  posted on  2012-03-25   12:22:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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