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Title: Witness: Martin attacked Zimmerman (hoodie beating red sweater)
Source: MyFox Tampa Bay
URL Source: http://www.myfoxtampabay.com/dpp/ne ... in-attacked-zimmerman-03232012
Published: Mar 24, 2012
Author: Fox 13
Post Date: 2012-03-24 10:45:57 by Hondo68
Keywords: on top beating up, Zimmerman was in red, I was calling 911
Views: 19765
Comments: 46

Witness: Martin attacked Zimmerman: MyFoxTAMPABAY.com

ORLANDO - A witness we haven't heard from before paints a much different picture than we've seen so far of what happened the night 17-year-old Trayvon Martin was shot and killed.

The night of that shooting, police say there was a witness who saw it all.

Our sister station, FOX 35 in Orlando, has spoken to that witness.

What Sanford Police investigators have in the folder, they put together on the killing of Trayvon Martin few know about.

The file now sits in the hands of the state attorney. Now that file is just weeks away from being opened to a grand jury.

It shows more now about why police believed that night that George Zimmerman shouldn't have gone to jail.

Zimmerman called 911 and told dispatchers he was following a teen. The dispatcher told Zimmerman not to.

And from that moment to the shooting, details are few.

But one man's testimony could be key for the police.

"The guy on the bottom who had a red sweater on was yelling to me: 'help, help…and I told him to stop and I was calling 911," he said.

Trayvon Martin was in a hoodie; Zimmerman was in red.

The witness only wanted to be identified as "John," and didn't not want to be shown on camera.

His statements to police were instrumental, because police backed up Zimmerman's claims, saying those screams on the 911 call are those of Zimmerman.

"When I got upstairs and looked down, the guy who was on top beating up the other guy, was the one laying in the grass, and I believe he was dead at that point," John said.

Zimmerman says the shooting was self defense. According to information released on the Sanford city website, Zimmerman said he was going back to his SUV when he was attacked by the teen.

Sanford police say Zimmerman was bloody in his face and head, and the back of his shirt was wet and had grass stains, indicating a struggle took place before the shooting.

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#6. To: Rudgear (#4)

Has anyone ever been to either one of their churches? What denomination are they? Why does nobody ask? /s.

So in your world, worshiping God can only be done in a special building?

Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET

mininggold  posted on  2012-03-24   11:24:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: mininggold (#6)

More dust from the apparatchik.

war has to do something for entertainment; the voices in his head aren't speaking to him and his imaginary friends have found reasons not to come over anymore.

Rudgear  posted on  2012-03-24   11:24:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: A K A Stone (#5)

Interesting development. Now arrest the black panthers for attempted murder. Or soliciting murder.

You better watch it, as YOU have just as much standing and posted evidence to be arrested under those terms too

Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET

mininggold  posted on  2012-03-24   11:26:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Rudgear (#7) (Edited)

More dust from the apparatchik.

And you are still unable to argue your point. How was jail?

Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET

mininggold  posted on  2012-03-24   11:27:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: mininggold (#9)

Race pimps, hatemongers and bigots don't worship God. How's that for arguing a point? Never been to jail, multiple personality disorder. You?

war has to do something for entertainment; the voices in his head aren't speaking to him and his imaginary friends have found reasons not to come over anymore.

Rudgear  posted on  2012-03-24   11:30:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Rudgear (#4)

Has anyone ever been to either one of their churches?

They churches be de wurld.

What denomination are they?

De church ob "I wants my money!".

Why does nobody ask? /s.

Because everybody is scared of them. Piss them off and they will send a Tan Klan mob around to burn your store down with you in it,and then send a team of government lawyers paid by the taxpayers to investigate you for some sort of made up crime.

"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011

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sneakypete  posted on  2012-03-24   11:31:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Rudgear (#10)

Race pimps, hatemongers and bigots don't worship God. How's that for arguing a point? Never been to jail, multiple personality disorder. You?

Yet you seem to be living proof that they do.

Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET

mininggold  posted on  2012-03-24   11:32:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: sneakypete (#11)

They churches be de wurld.

What denomination are they?

De church ob "I wants my money!".

Why does nobody ask? /s.

Because everybody is scared of them. Piss them off and they will send a Tan Klan mob around to burn your store down with you in it,and then send a team of government lawyers paid by the taxpayers to investigate you for some sort of made up crime.

They are no different than Billy Graham except he was much less effective.

Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET

mininggold  posted on  2012-03-24   11:34:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: mininggold (#12)

You don't know anything about me, multiple personality disorder. All you have is deliberately provocative statements to strangers you meet on the web to avoid backing up your point. Otoh, you've never really had a point, have you?

war has to do something for entertainment; the voices in his head aren't speaking to him and his imaginary friends have found reasons not to come over anymore.

Rudgear  posted on  2012-03-24   11:39:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: mininggold (#13)

They are no different than Billy Graham except he was much less effective.

See? Typical drive-by post from a bomb-throwing anarchist web troll.

war has to do something for entertainment; the voices in his head aren't speaking to him and his imaginary friends have found reasons not to come over anymore.

Rudgear  posted on  2012-03-24   11:40:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: A K A Stone (#5)

Interesting development. Now arrest the black panthers for attempted murder. Or soliciting murder.

The ACORN of their times.

Railroaded and killed like Malcolm X, who was supposed to speak instead of MLK in DC '63...;}

"Retha Timmons said that her uncle, who was bedridden for more than a year with his injuries, never reclaimed his farm and that she stayed away for 70 years.

Lang's lynching "broke up our family. ... That's why I was raised by women," said Sims, who said Lang was falsely accused of firing the shots, which did not harm anyone, into the store.

"When my great-aunt talked about it, she would sit on the porch and cry. When you can see the pain and heartache, how he didn't even have a chance to go to the court to explain - it hurts," said Sims, who cried.

"It still hurts."

--Researcher John Martin contributed to this report. Dan DeWitt can be reached at 352 754-6116 or dewitt@sptimes.com

No one's forgettin. You get tired of working over the Palestinian?

Want a race war?

fuck....US blacks/native Americans ain't forgotten a thing....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-24   12:32:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Rudgear (#15)

See? Typical drive-by post from a bomb-throwing anarchist web troll.

Spam

Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET

mininggold  posted on  2012-03-24   14:01:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: mininggold (#17)

Spam

See? Typical drive-by post from a bomb-throwing anarchist web troll.

war has to do something for entertainment; the voices in his head aren't speaking to him and his imaginary friends have found reasons not to come over anymore.

Rudgear  posted on  2012-03-24   14:11:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: mininggold (#13)

They are no different than Billy Graham except he was much less effective.

I am not and never have been a fan of Billy Graham,but I don't recall him every trying to stir up white people to riot and murder blacks.

Maybe you could remind me of when he did this?

"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011

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sneakypete  posted on  2012-03-24   22:27:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: sneakypete (#19)

I am not and never have been a fan of Billy Graham,but I don't recall him every trying to stir up white people to riot and murder blacks.

Maybe you could remind me of when he did this?

Don't be such a drama queen, he had other ways of fleecing his flock.

Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET

mininggold  posted on  2012-03-24   22:50:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Rudgear (#1)

This is shaping up to be another attempt by the esteemed Clergymen Jackson and Sharpton to solidify their power through hate.

Yep, same old song and dance


Iran’s main drive for acquiring atomic weapons is not for use against Israel but as a deterrent against U.S. intervention -- Major General Zeevi Farkash, head of the Israeli Military Intelligence Directorate

jwpegler  posted on  2012-03-24   23:42:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: mininggold (#20)

he had other ways of fleecing his flock.

Yeah,but those ways didn't include racism,riots,and murder.

"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011

Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs

Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter.

sneakypete  posted on  2012-03-25   1:07:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: sneakypete (#22)

Yeah,but those ways didn't include racism,riots,and murder.

I'm not so sure about the racism especially during his crusades (hint, hint) during the sixties, but no one but you seems to think that's the only way it can be done.

Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET

mininggold  posted on  2012-03-25   1:20:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: mcgowanjm (#16)

Want a race war?

gonna be a doozy this time around but it won't just be 'racial'... class warfare is about you.

gird your gated communities as your $10hr rent-a-cops flee to join the rabble.

it is on...

prepare...

enjoy...

breed...

Never swear "allegiance" to anything other than the 'right to change your mind'!

Brian S  posted on  2012-03-25   1:42:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: Brian S, mcgowanjm, *The Two Parties ARE the Same* (#24)

won't just be 'racial'... class warfare is about you.

gird your gated communities as your $10hr rent-a-cops flee to join the rabble.

Better get a Rick Santorum vest to identify yourself as one of the 99%!


"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul

Obama's watch stopped on 24 May 2008, but he's been too busy smoking crack to notice.

Hondo68  posted on  2012-03-25   7:27:04 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: hondo68 (#25)

cute....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-25   9:26:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Brian S (#24)

gird your gated communities as your $10hr rent-a-cops flee to join the rabble.

it is on...

Big $$$ is covering Zimmerman.

The parents are going after the deep pockets neighborhood gated community.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-25   9:28:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: mininggold (#23)

I'm not so sure about the racism especially during his crusades (hint, hint) during the sixties,

You should be because he was never a racist.

You don't seem to understand what he meant by Crusades. Actually you don't seem to know about the original Crusades,either.

"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011

Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs

Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter.

sneakypete  posted on  2012-03-25   12:44:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: sneakypete (#28)

You should be because he was never a racist.

You don't seem to understand what he meant by Crusades. Actually you don't seem to know about the original Crusades,either.

And you evidently don't know all the meanings of the word.

Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET

mininggold  posted on  2012-03-25   12:47:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: mininggold (#29)

And you evidently don't know all the meanings of the word.

Yet oddly enough I know the meaning I intended and implied.

You also seemed to be the one one that read my post that didn't understand it,too.

"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011

Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs

Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter.

sneakypete  posted on  2012-03-25   21:52:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: Brian S, mcgowanjm (#24)

Want a race war?

gonna be a doozy this time around but it won't just be 'racial'... class warfare is about you.

gird your gated communities as your $10hr rent-a-cops flee to join the rabble.

it is on...

prepare...

enjoy...

breed...

You repulsive little murder supporting c@cksuckers.

You best not let your alligator mouths overload your humming bird azzes.

IF it should ever come to THAT; (almighty GOD forbid it I pray); you repulsive little murder supporting c@cksuckers will be mist in the breeze.

BELIEVE it.

Spit ...

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-03-25   22:55:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: sneakypete (#28) (Edited)

You should be because he was never a racist.

An all inclusive is a lie.

I'm still to this day working to get rid of racism.

It's planted deep by society. From birth.

And why 'Uncle Tom's' are so despised.

Same Race Hatred.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-26   8:44:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: sneakypete, minggold, All (#32)

It's planted deep by society. From birth.

And why 'Uncle Tom's' are so despised.

Same Race Hatred.

And here's A K A with a sterling example of same:

Title: Black friend defends shooter of Florida teen Source: [None] URL Source: http://www.reuters.com/article/2012 ... g-friend-idUSBRE82O0FE20120325 Published: Mar 26, 2012 Author: Daniel Trotta Post Date: 2012-03-26 01:45:58 by A K A Stone Keywords: None Views: 13 Comments: 2

http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin...gi?ArtNum=28905&Disp=2#C2

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-26   8:49:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: mcgowanjm (#32)

You should be because he was never a racist. An all inclusive is a lie.

I'm still to this day working to get rid of racism.

Ain't you and your crusade,"special"? Do you wear a cape when you go out to stomp out racism where none exists?

BTW,I am refering to racism as it is taken to be by the general public,a rabid hatred that can result in genocide,not the generic sense that it is natural for people to prefer to be around those that look and think like them.

"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011

Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs

Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter.

sneakypete  posted on  2012-03-26   13:24:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: sneakypete, mcgowanjm (#34)

Ain't you and your crusade,"special"? Do you wear a cape when you go out to stomp out racism where none exists?

More of your drama queen persona on exhibit whenever you are backed into a corner.

Yet it doesn't change the truth of what Jim posted. And your attempts to change the terms are duly noted.

Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET

mininggold  posted on  2012-03-26   13:53:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: sneakypete (#34)

to stomp out racism where none exists?

RU Serious?

Again that all inclusive.

Do you wear blinders 24/7?

Or do you take them off when you go to sleep.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-26   14:09:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: mininggold (#35)

;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-26   14:10:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: mininggold (#35)

More of your drama queen persona on exhibit whenever you are backed into a corner.

You really do think you have the ability to back me into a corner,don't you?

"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011

Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs

Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter.

sneakypete  posted on  2012-03-26   18:59:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: sneakypete (#38) (Edited)

You really do think you have the ability to back me into a corner,don't you?

No, as you do fine all by yourself.

Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET

mininggold  posted on  2012-03-26   20:35:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: sneakypete (#34)

Do you wear a cape when you go out to stomp out racism where none exists?

Excellent question.

I'm sure McGoober has a pithy answer.

Thunderbird  posted on  2012-03-26   20:51:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: mininggold (#39)

Zing!

Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady

lucysmom  posted on  2012-03-26   21:42:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: Thunderbird, Boris Y, cz82 (#40)

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-03-26   22:03:41 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: sneakypete (#38)

The only pinning down that flabby dope addled whorebag slut whiningskank / lucysbreeder can do is in pinning a truck driver down on the mattress long enuf for him to get off or throw up.

Death to everybody who does not get outta my way. (decided to retire the beatdowns on old worthless retread posters that are bozoed)

e_type_jag  posted on  2012-03-26   22:10:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: A K A Stone (#42)

That has to be a photo shop thing. Even that cretin isn't stupid enough to really pose with that shirt in public where photos can be taken.

"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011

Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs

Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter.

sneakypete  posted on  2012-03-27   13:22:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: sneakypete (#19)

mininggold: They are no different than Billy Graham except he was much less effective.

Sneaky: Maybe you could remind me of when he did this?

She won't.

From Everything Is A Lie: The Deliberate Intent To Deceive People Is At An All Time High [Tactics of Leftist & NeoCon Shills]:

Rule of Disinformation #4: Use a straw man.

Find or create a seeming element of your opponent's argument which you can easily knock down to make yourself look good and the opponent to look bad. Either make up an issue you may safely imply exists based on your interpretation of the opponent/opponent arguments/situation, or select the weakest aspect of the weakest charges. Amplify their significance and destroy them in a way which appears to debunk all the charges, real and fabricated alike, while actually avoiding discussion of the real issues.

To: mcToejam, rat-boy, drippy, Alzheimer Fred, whitesands, t-bird, loonymom, ming, e-type jackoff, goober56, wreck, cal-CON, rabid dog, dummy DwarF, biff, harrowup the communist, and meguro. You're on the "a waste of human flesh" list. Brian S[ocialist], you're a propagandist moron. ALL of you can piss off.

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2012-03-27   14:48:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: sneakypete (#38)

mininggold: More of your drama queen persona on exhibit whenever you are backed into a corner.

Sneaky: You really do think you have the ability to back me into a corner,don't you?

No, that's not what she thinks. She's just attacking you, manufacturing your loss, to force you to defend yourself, instead of discussing the article. Any valid points you might make, are diverted, because she's making you defend yourself.

From Everything Is A Lie: The Deliberate Intent To Deceive People Is At An All Time High [Tactics of Leftist & NeoCon Shills]:

Disinformationalist Trait #2: Selectivity

They tend to pick and choose opponents carefully, either applying the hit-and- run approach against mere commentators supportive of opponents, or focusing heavier attacks on key opponents who are known to directly address issues. Should a commentator become argumentative with any success, the focus will shift to include the commentator as well.

To: mcToejam, rat-boy, drippy, Alzheimer Fred, whitesands, t-bird, loonymom, ming, e-type jackoff, goober56, wreck, cal-CON, rabid dog, dummy DwarF, biff, harrowup the communist, and meguro. You're on the "a waste of human flesh" list. Brian S[ocialist], you're a propagandist moron. ALL of you can piss off.

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2012-03-27   14:52:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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