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Title: Fox News Host Tries To Walk Back Persistent Obama-Muslim Talk
Source: RAWSTORY
URL Source: http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/03/ ... -persistent-obama-muslim-talk/
Published: Mar 21, 2012
Author: Stephen C. Webster
Post Date: 2012-03-21 13:27:55 by Brian S
Keywords: None
Views: 15752
Comments: 40

A new book about the Obama Administration’s first term has Fox News backpedaling, with host Bret Baier insisting on Tuesday morning that “we found no examples of a [Fox News] host saying President Obama is a Muslim.”

The conservative Fox News Channel has seized upon the bogus claims that Obama might be a Muslim since the 2008 Democratic primaries, when Hillary Clinton’s opposition research dug up details of the president’s childhood and his two years spent at a mostly Muslim school in Indonesia. Ever since then, the Republican-leaning network has featured a steady drumbeat of guests — not hosts — who perpetually suggest that Obama might be a clandestine follower of Islam.

Baier took issue Tuesday morning with a new book by liberal author David Corn, Washington bureau chief for Mother Jones. His forthcoming book, Showdown: The Inside Story of How Obama Fought Back Against Boehner, Cantor, and the Tea Party, puts readers in the middle of the administration’s struggles with Republicans during the 2010 midterm elections, revealing for the first time that Obama felt like he had lost support among white men because Fox News continually misled viewers by giving coverage to individuals who believed he might be Muslim.

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Baier attempted to “fact check” that claim on Tuesday morning by offering a very narrow exception — that none of their regular hosts had repeated the claim as fact — but no amount of wishing can change the Republican opinion outlet’s record of misinformation.

When they first featured the claim in 2008 as if it were a serious news story, the Obama campaign shot back by condemning their irresponsible journalism. Even CNN host Wolf Blitzer criticized Fox News by proxy, explaining that CNN had sent a reporter to Indonesia to investigate the so-called story, like “any serious news organization is supposed to do.”

The drumbeat of “Is Obama a Muslim” coverage on Fox did not stop after the primaries ended, with Fox News becoming the primary television source for the so-called “Birthers” — people who believe the president was secretly born in Indonesia or Kenya, and that he secretly harbors Muslim views. Even though the conspiracy group’s claims have been repeatedly disproved, Fox News kept giving them air time for months. At one point, polling found that nearly half of New Hampshire’s Republicans believed the president secretly harbored an Islamic faith.

That helped drum up numbers of people in national polling who said they think Obama is a Muslim, which Fox News fed upon for weeks, as if it were a serious news story. The question, “Is Obama a Muslim?” became so persistent on Fox News that shortly after the 2010 midterm elections, a Fox News panel conducted by Republican pollster Frank Luntz found that nearly half of their Iowa viewers believed he really does follow Islam.

Baier is correct that Fox News hosts have not directly stated that Obama is a Muslim, but the news channel has treated birtherism as a serious news story despite the fact that it has been widely debunked. A study conducted at the University of Maryland in 2010 found that 63 percent of regular Fox News watchers believed that Obama was not born in the U.S., or that it was not clear.

Update: For an even more detailed analysis of how Fox News recycles debunked journalism to imply that the president is a Muslim, see today’s report by the progressive watchdog group Media Matters. Subscribe to *Tea Party On Parade*

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#1. To: Brian S (#0)

I don't see how Faux News can keep their Orwellian "fair and balanced" slogan with a straight face.

NewsJunky  posted on  2012-03-21   14:45:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: All (#1)

But I did forget they add "unafraid" at the end. I guess they are "unafraid" of anyone seeing through their fair and balanced charade and calling them out on it. That must be it..

NewsJunky  posted on  2012-03-21   14:48:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Brian S (#0)


"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul

Obama's watch stopped on 24 May 2008, but he's been too busy smoking crack to notice.

Hondo68  posted on  2012-03-21   15:23:25 ET  (2 images) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Brian S (#0)

I ran across a video late last night, it was speeches put together of Obama talking about Islam and our nation, it gave me chills up my spine. I'll see if I can find it and post it for anyone who may be interested, or anyone who doubts Obama's loyalty to Islam...

("Every fetus that DOESN'T go on welfare in 18 years because he/she was aborted yesterday... brings a smile to my face today" ~ GrandIsland - LibertyPost)

Murron  posted on  2012-03-21   16:58:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Brian S, ALL (#0)

"When they first featured the claim in 2008 as if it were a serious news story, the Obama campaign shot back by condemning their irresponsible journalism."

I don't put much stock in what journalist report either, that's why it's better to listen to what the horse has to say, and then make up your own mind. jmho!

"Obama admits that he is a Muslim. Obama bowing before a Muslim king. Obama talking about his Muslim family. Obama quoting from the Koran. Obama defending Islam. Obama visiting a Mosque. And many more clips of Obama and his Muslim connections."

Legal Disclaimer: The writers, producers, and editors of this video are not claiming or implying that Barack Hussein Obama is a Muslim, or that Obama said he was a Muslim, rather they are only examining the evidence surrounding the rumor that Barack Hussein Obama might be a secret Muslim.

("Every fetus that DOESN'T go on welfare in 18 years because he/she was aborted yesterday... brings a smile to my face today" ~ GrandIsland - LibertyPost)

Murron  posted on  2012-03-21   17:09:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Murron (#4)

Those indoctrinated by western MSM *always* fail to understand the fundamental difference between the Bible and the Koran; the former is the stories of men, and actions, while the latter is considered the direct words of GOD.

When you understand this fact, and THEN read the Koran, the religion of Islam takes on a very different meaning.

To: mcToejam, rat-boy, drippy, Alzheimer Fred, whitesands, t-bird, loonymom, ming, e-type jackoff, goober56, wreck, cal-CON, rabid dog, dummy DwarF, biff, harrowup the communist, and meguro. You're on the "a waste of human flesh" list. Brian S[ocialist], you're a propagandist moron. ALL of you can piss off.

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2012-03-21   17:11:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Capitalist Eric (#6)

Those indoctrinated by western MSM *always* fail to understand the fundamental difference between the Bible and the Koran; the former is the stories of men, and actions, while the latter is considered the direct words of GOD.

You've just demonstrated your own ignorance Eric.

Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady

lucysmom  posted on  2012-03-21   17:18:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Murron (#5)

Legal Disclaimer: The writers, producers, and editors of this video are not claiming or implying that Barack Hussein Obama is a Muslim, or that Obama said he was a Muslim, rather they are only examining the evidence surrounding the rumor that Barack Hussein Obama might be a secret Muslim.

I like the way they remove the evidence from its context. Very cool!

Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady

lucysmom  posted on  2012-03-21   17:19:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Brian S (#0)

whyofcourse  posted on  2012-03-21   17:54:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Brian S, Murron, hondo68, liberator (#0)

That helped drum up numbers of people in national polling who said they think Obama is a Muslim, which Fox News fed upon for weeks, as if it were a serious news story. The question, “Is Obama a Muslim?” became so persistent on Fox News that shortly after the 2010 midterm elections, a Fox News panel conducted by Republican pollster Frank Luntz found that nearly half of their Iowa viewers believed he really does follow Islam.

You can't fool those Iowans. They know a Muslim when they see one.

He did admit he's a Muslim on ABC news. George Stephanopolis dragged it out of him.

Tooconservative  posted on  2012-03-22   23:41:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: ALL (#10) (Edited)

Barack Obama, during his Cairo speech, said:  "I know, too, that Islam has always been a part  of America 's story."

AN AMERICAN  CITIZEN'S RESPONSE:

  Dear Mr. Obama:

Were those  Muslims that were in America when the Pilgrims  first landed? Funny, I thought they were  Native American Indians.

Were those  Muslims that celebrated the first Thanksgiving  day? Sorry again, those were Pilgrims and  Native American Indians.

Can you  show me one Muslim signature on the United  States Constitution?   Declaration  of Independence ?

Bill of  Rights?   Didn't  think so.   Did  Muslims fight for this country's freedom from  England ? No.   Did  Muslims fight during the Civil War to free the  slaves in America ? No, they did  not. In fact, Muslims to this day are  still the largest traffickers in human  slavery.. Your own half brother, a devout  Muslim, still advocates slavery himself, even  though Muslims of Arabic descent refer to black  Muslims as "pug nosed slaves." Says a lot  of what the Muslim world really thinks of your  family's "rich Islamic heritage," doesn't it Mr.  Obama?   Where were  Muslims during the Civil Rights era of this  country? Not present.   There are  no pictures or media accounts of Muslims walking  side by side with Martin Luther King, Jr. or  helping to advance the cause of Civil  Rights.   Where were  Muslims during this country's Woman's Suffrage  era? Again, not present. In fact,  devout Muslims demand that women are subservient  to men in the Islamic culture. So much so,  that often they are beaten for not wearing the  'hijab' or for talking to a man who is not a  direct family member or their husband.  Yep, the Muslims are all for women's rights,  aren't they?   Where were  Muslims during World War II? They were  aligned with Adolf Hitler. The Muslim  grand mufti himself met with Adolf Hitler,  reviewed the troops and accepted support from  the Nazi's in killing Jews.   Finally,  Mr. Obama, where were Muslims on Sept. 11th,  2001? If they weren't flying planes into  the World Trade Center , the Pentagon or a field  in Pennsylvania killing nearly 3,000 people on  our own soil, they were rejoicing in the Middle  East . No one can dispute the pictures  shown from all parts of the Muslim world  celebrating on CNN, Fox News, MSNBC and other  cable news networks that day. Strangely,  the very "moderate" Muslims who's asses you bent  over backwards to kiss in Cairo , Egypt on June  4th were stone cold silent post 9-11. To  many Americans, their silence has meant approval  for the acts of that day.   And THAT, Mr.  Obama, is the "rich heritage" Muslims have here  in America ...   Oh, I'm sorry, I  forgot to mention the Barbary Pirates.  They were Muslim.   And now we can  add November 5, 2009 - the slaughter of American  soldiers at Fort Hood by a Muslim major who is a  doctor and a psychiatrist who was supposed to be  counseling soldiers returning from battle in  Iraq and Afghanistan .....   That, Mr. Obama  is the "Muslim heritage" in America  . EVERY AMERICAN  MUST READ THIS !!  

GarySpFC  posted on  2012-03-23   1:25:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: GarySpFC (#11)

Did Muslims fight for this country's freedom from England ? No.

What avout the Revolutionary War hero, Peter Salem?

Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady

lucysmom  posted on  2012-03-23   1:48:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: GarySpFC (#11)

Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady

lucysmom  posted on  2012-03-23   1:53:59 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: GarySpFC (#11)

Where were Muslims during the Civil Rights era of this country? Not present.

Malcolm X, Muhammad Ali

Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady

lucysmom  posted on  2012-03-23   1:57:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: GarySpFC (#11)

Bill of Rights? Didn't think so. Did Muslims fight for this country's freedom from England ? No. Did Muslims fight during the Civil War to free the slaves in America ? No, they did not.

LOL. You seem to forget that many African slaves were originally Muslim.

Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET

mininggold  posted on  2012-03-23   2:05:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: lucysmom (#12)

What avout the Revolutionary War hero, Peter Salem?

That is nothing more than an Islamic lie. Attempts have been made to link Peter Salem's last name with the Arabic “Saleem” (one who is peaceful); however there is no evidence whatsoever that this is the case.

Salem was a hero, and blacks can take pride in that. BTW, I have a copy of John Turnbill's painting of Salem.

GarySpFC  posted on  2012-03-23   2:13:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: mininggold (#15)

LOL. You seem to forget that many African slaves were originally Muslim.

Nonsense! Islam had not gained a foothold into the areas of Africa from where slaves were obtained until long after the American Civil War.

GarySpFC  posted on  2012-03-23   2:24:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: GarySpFC (#11)

2001? If they weren't flying planes into  the World Trade Center , the Pentagon or a field  in Pennsylvania killing nearly 3,000 people on  our own soil, they were rejoicing in the Middle  East .

All of them, Gary? Every last one? Or what percentage of the world's Muslim population you reckon? I suppose it never occurred to you that some were among the 3000 who died that day. And no, I don't mean the hijackers.

meguro  posted on  2012-03-23   4:14:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: GarySpFC (#11)

"Muslim heritage" in America"

Freedom of Religion?

Does our Constitution exclude Islam?

Jameson  posted on  2012-03-23   6:31:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Jameson (#19)

Does our Constitution exclude Islam?

Freedom or religion. Not reign of cults.

The constitution doesn't protect Muslims. In fact they should all leave. Obama especially.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-03-23   7:00:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: GarySpFC (#17)

Nonsense! Islam had not gained a foothold into the areas of Africa from where slaves were obtained until long after the American Civil War.

Really? Some details please.

Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady

lucysmom  posted on  2012-03-23   11:05:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: GarySpFC (#17) (Edited)

Nonsense! Islam had not gained a foothold into the areas of Africa from where slaves were obtained until long after the American Civil War.

You are entering nut territory now. Some slaves even managed to keep their Muslim African names. One in the early 1700's who called herself Fatima comes to mind.

Just because they not were allowed to practice their religion by their good bible fearing, Christian owners doesn't mean they did not have one.

You DO remember it was those Arab Muslim traders who were originally blamed for supplying much of the product that the African slave trade depended on?

Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET

mininggold  posted on  2012-03-23   11:15:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: A K A Stone (#20)

Freedom or religion. Not reign of cults.

Yeah.... no followers of a real religion would have ever do this.

Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET

mininggold  posted on  2012-03-23   11:28:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: mininggold (#22)

You DO remember it was those Arab Muslim traders who were originally blamed for supplying much of the product that the African slave trade depended on?

Some like to have it both ways.

Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady

lucysmom  posted on  2012-03-23   11:35:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: mininggold (#22)

Just because they not were allowed to practice their religion

It isn't a legitimate religion. All mosques should be destroyed they are an affront to God. All muslims should leave or be deported. This nation is a Christian nation. Not a muslim one.

Here sing a song

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A K A Stone  posted on  2012-03-23   11:40:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: A K A Stone (#25)

It isn't a legitimate religion. All mosques should be destroyed they are an affront to God. All muslims should leave or be deported. This nation is a Christian nation. Not a muslim one.

Here sing a song

Muslims were here from the start. Brought here by good Bible thumping Christians to work their plantations for free.

Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET

mininggold  posted on  2012-03-23   11:56:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: mininggold (#26)

Muslims were here from the start. Brought here by good Bible thumping Christians to work their plantations for free.

Every mosque should be torn down. In its place a new church.

Mosques lead you to hell. Churches lead you to heaven. Mosques are of satan. The church is from God himself.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-03-23   12:01:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: A K A Stone (#27)

Every mosque should be torn down. In its place a new church.

Winning.

Report Finds Mosques Flourishing Across U.S.

{{{chuckle}}}

Never swear "allegiance" to anything other than the 'right to change your mind'!

Brian S  posted on  2012-03-23   12:18:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: Brian S (#28)

Report Finds Mosques Flourishing Across U.S.

Uugh. Uck. ;)

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-03-23   12:22:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: A K A Stone (#27)

Every mosque should be torn down. In its place a new church.

Mosques lead you to hell. Churches lead you to heaven. Mosques are of satan. The church is from God himself.

I think both religions went to hell as soon as they decided one could only worship properly in a building worth more than many kings.

Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET

mininggold  posted on  2012-03-23   12:28:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: mininggold (#30)

I think both religions went to hell as soon as they decided one could only worship properly in a building worth more than many kings.

I have never heard anyone say you can only worship in a building. Never heard that. Never thought that.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-03-23   12:37:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: A K A Stone (#31)

I have never heard anyone say you can only worship in a building. Never heard that. Never thought that.

That doesn't mean others haven't.

Why did communities impoverish themselves to build such magnificent buildings? One reportedly used 3 tons of gold in it's religious ornamentation, while the surrounding Christian population starved.

Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET

mininggold  posted on  2012-03-23   12:44:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: mininggold (#32)

Why did communities impoverish themselves to build such magnificent buildings?

There is nothing wrong with building a church. It gives you a place to attend worship out of the cold and rain.

I don't know about your unsourced claims.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-03-23   12:45:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: A K A Stone (#33)

There is nothing wrong with building a church. It gives you a place to attend worship out of the cold and rain.

I don't know about your unsourced claims.

Of course you don't, because you wear your intentional ignorance like a badge of courage.

Are you saying that worshippers live in the streets without shelter?

Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET

mininggold  posted on  2012-03-23   13:03:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: mininggold (#22)

T.

You are entering nut territory now. Some slaves even managed to keep their Muslim African names. One in the early 1700's who called herself Fatima comes to mind.

One? That's not evidence, but hearsay. You can find blacks with Russian names. Does that tell us they were born in Volograd, Russia? Sasha is Russian.

Just because they not were allowed to practice their religion by their good bible fearing, Christian owners doesn't mean they did not have one.

if they were God fearing Christians, then it's highly unlikely the owners were Christians. What solid evidence do you have that the slaves were Muslims, and what solid evidence do you have that Muslim slaves existed and were not allowed to worship Alla?

You DO remember it was those Arab Muslim traders who were originally blamed for supplying much of the product that the African slave trade depended on?

No, I don't believe that. Firstly, a Muslim enslaving another Muslim? Secondly, when did Islam spread into Western, Central, and Southern Africa. That said, if Muslims were responsible for enslaving Africans, then why do you defend Islam?

GarySpFC  posted on  2012-03-23   20:26:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: GarySpFC (#35)

What solid evidence do you have that the slaves were Muslims, and what solid evidence do you have that Muslim slaves existed and were not allowed to worship Alla?

Because Kunta Kinte said so in Roots.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-03-23   20:36:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: GarySpFC (#35) (Edited)

LOLOL Gary.

Many good Christian slave owning plantations even had their own chapels.

And whose defending Islam? I'm only stating a fact or is that another bias I see peeking out.

I don't have the time or the inclination to give you a history of the early and antebellum US. Knowing that you again consider yourself an expert although it appears to be only in your own mind is good enough for me.

Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET

mininggold  posted on  2012-03-23   20:44:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: mininggold (#37)

Many good Christian slave owning plantations even had their own chapels.

And whose defending Islam? I'm only stating a fact or is that another bias I see peeking out.

I don't have the time or the inclination to give you a history of the early and antebellum US. Knowing that you again consider yourself an expert although it appears to be only in your own mind is good enough for me.

I'm always willing to listen. However, let me caution you, two branches of my family owned plantations in the York, SC area. They did not own slaves.

GarySpFC  posted on  2012-03-24   11:47:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: mininggold (#32)

Why did communities impoverish themselves to build such magnificent buildings? One reportedly used 3 tons of gold in it's religious ornamentation, while the surrounding Christian population starved.

That is the Muslim Dome of the Rock in Jerusalem. The dome is completely covered in gold, and so is most of the interior. Muslims spend billions, and then blame Israel for keeping the Palestians impoverished.

GarySpFC  posted on  2012-03-27   17:12:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: GarySpFC (#39)

That is the Muslim Dome of the Rock in Jerusalem. The dome is completely covered in gold, and so is most of the interior. Muslims spend billions, and then blame Israel for keeping the Palestians impoverished.

No it isn't. Guess again.

Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET

mininggold  posted on  2012-03-27   19:16:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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