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Title: Navy Releases McCain’s Records [He Killed 168 Sailors]
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URL Source: http://rockcreekfreepress.tumblr.co ... /navy-releases-mccains-records
Published: Mar 20, 2012
Author: WAYNE MADSEN
Post Date: 2012-03-20 14:53:18 by Capitalist Eric
Keywords: None
Views: 10463
Comments: 6


USS Forrestal, July 29, 1967 - The worst accident aboard a US Navy surface vessel since WWII

BY WAYNE MADSEN/WAYNE MADSEN REPORT

The Navy released John McCain’s military record after a Freedom of Information Act request from the Associated Press. The record is packed with information on McCain’s medals and commendations but little else. The one thing that the McCain campaign does not want to see released is the record of McCain’s antics on board the USS Forestal in 1967. McCain was personally responsible for the deadliest fire in the history of the US Navy. That catastrophe, with 27 dead and over 100 wounded trumps McCain’s record as a prisoner of war in North Vietnam.

WMR has learned additional details regarding the deadly fire aboard the Navy aircraft carrier, the USS Forrestal, on July 19, 1967 in the Gulf of Tonkin. The additional details point to then-Lt. Commander John McCain playing more of a role in triggering the fire and explosions than previously reported.

On January 16, 2006, WMR reported that according to a US Navy sailor who was aboard the Forrestal on the fateful day of the fire, “McCain and the Forrestal’s skipper, Capt. John K. Beling, were warned about the danger of using M-65 1000-lb. bombs manufactured in 1935, which were deemed too dangerous to use during World War II and, later, on B-52 bombers. The fire from the Zuni missle misfire resulted in the heavy 1000 pound bombs being knocked loose from the pylons of McCain’s A-4 aircraft, which were only designed to hold 500-pound bombs.”

WMR further reported, “The unstable bombs had a 60-second cook-off threshold in a fire situation and this warning was known to both Beling and McCain prior to the disaster.” WMR also cited the potential that McCain’s Navy records were used against him by the neo-cons in control of the Pentagon, “The neo-cons, who have had five years to examine every file within the Department of Defense, have likely accessed documents that could prove embarrassing to McCain, who was on board the USS Forrestal on July 29, 1967, and whose A-4 Skyhawk was struck by an air-toground Zuni missile that had misfired from an F-4 Phantom.”

WMR has been informed that crewmen aboard the Forrestal have provided additional information about the Forrestal incident. It is believed by many crewmen and those who have investigated the case that McCain deliberately “wet-started” his A-4E to shake up the guy in the plane behind his A-4. “Wet-starts”, done either deliberately or accidentally, shoot a large flame from the tail of the aircraft.

In McCain’s case, the “wet-start” apparently “cooked off” and launched the Zuni rocket from the rear F-4 that touched off the explosions and massive fire. The F-4 pilot was reportedly killed in the conflagration. “Wet starting” was apparently a common practice among young “hot-dog” pilots.

McCain was quickly transferred to the USS Oriskany (the only Forrestal crewman to be immediately transferred). Three months later, McCain was shot down over North Vietnam on October 26, 1967.

As WMR previously reported, at the time of the Forrestal disaster, McCain’s father, Admiral John McCain, Jr., was Commander-in-Chief of US Naval Forces Europe (CINCUSNAVEUR) and was busy covering up the details of the deadly and pre-meditated June 8, 1967, Israeli attack on the NSA spy ship, the USS Liberty.

The fact that both McCains were involved in two incidents just weeks apart that resulted in a total death count of 168 on the Forrestal and the Liberty, with an additional injury count of 234 on both ships (with a number of them later dying from their wounds) with an accompanying classified paper trail inside the Pentagon, may be all that was needed to hold a Sword of Damocles over the head of the “family honor”-oriented McCain by the neo-cons.

WMR has also been informed by knowledgeable sources, including an ex-Navy A-4 pilot, the “wet-start game” was a common occurrence. However, it is between “very unlikely” and “impossible” for the Forrestal “wet start” to have been accidental. “Wet starts” were later rendered impossible by automated engine controls.

Wayne Madsen reports on military and political affairs in Washington at his website, WayneMadsenReport.com


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So much for being a war "hero." He's an asshole, he's reckless and stupid. (1 image)

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#1. To: Capitalist Eric (#0)

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McCain IS a hero.

He's an azzhole, and I despise him, but he is still a hero.

Unlike little lick spittle bubble head pussies like you erica who never served in the zone.

Btw pussy boy, the fleet's nick name for the Oriskany was the "USS Zippo" she had so many fires underway.

When you are a do nothing pussy like YOU erica, you TRY to diminish what others have actually DONE. It takes a set to be a jet jockey bubble head. Alot more than it takes to ride a bubble in the second.

You aren't a shellback either are you WOG?

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-03-20   15:20:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Mad Dog (#1) (Edited)

McCain IS a hero.

Crap. My IE crashes, and when it restores, I find YOU making such comments.

You think he's a "hero?" LOL.

Why don't you zip his pants up, and get off your knees, boy.

He's a globalist TRAITOR, and you KNOW it... You'd rather support a traitor, than someone who stands for AMERICA.

You're SCUM, you skimmer putz.

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Capitalist Eric  posted on  2012-03-20   17:11:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Capitalist Eric (#0)

So much for being a war "hero."

He never was a hero. He co-operated with his captors from day one for special treatment,and the only reason he wasn't court-martialed for it was due to a "gentleman's agreement" amongst the POW's being released to present a united front and never tell on each other for what they did while being held prisoner. The excuse was "it was for the good of the service to promote the idea that commissioned officers refused to co-operate with the enemy beyond name,rank,and service number.

Plus the additional fact that his father was a powerful Admiral that saw to it his baby boy got two Silver Stars while behind held prisoner.

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sneakypete  posted on  2012-03-20   19:40:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Capitalist Eric (#2)

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erica try to grow a set little gurl.

McCain has already PAID in blood his price as a hero.

A little bitch like you would have died if you'd gone through what he did as a POW.

That said he's now a piece of shit and has been since day one.

Try to think like a man you simpering little bitch/.

Just because a man is a hero doesn't make him God or correct you sniveling little gash.

I don't support him bitch, I've NEVER suppoprted Mcinsane you little bitch.

I was in the fleet when he was.

None of which changes the objective FACT that McInsane is a certified HERO you trivial little bubble headed WOG gash.

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-03-20   21:03:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Capitalist Eric (#2) (Edited)

BTW erica

Was Benedict Arnold a hero? (You do know who Benedict Arnold was don't you WOG?)

The answer you little tutu wearing no balls pussy bubblehead WOG is YES.

You see erica ADULTS know that people are not static things, THINGS CHANGE, and so do people, (including me, and YOU bitch).

Children and mental defectives don't get this simple FACT.

People aren't simple cardboard cutouts erica, people are complex.

LIFE is complex erica.

Talking to you as if you had a functioning adult brain is like pissing into the wind.

Useless.

Just like YOU are erica.

Btw bitch how's my "rubbing two nickels together" doing eh bitch?

I went to the boat shop yesterday and the boat show is this weekend.

I'll decide next week which way to go. All flat bottom with a jet tunnel OR a modified V? Little cricks or BIG rivers? I live on the 4 th biggest river in Alaska, but fish in the cricks or at their mouths mainly.

Does your mommy buy you some nice fish sticks erica?

Maybe you could borrow a couple of nickels from her? maybe she has some BALLS she could loan you also?

You F'ing no deployment, no zone, simpering little bubble headed WOG bitch.

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-03-21   15:33:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Capitalist Eric (#2) (Edited)

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BTW erica

Was Benedict Arnold a hero? (You do know who Benedict Arnold was don't you WOG?)

The answer you little tutu wearing no balls pussy bubblehead WOG is YES.

You see erica, ADULTS know that people are not static things, THINGS CHANGE, and so do people, (including me, and YOU bitch).

Children and mental defectives don't get this simple FACT.

People aren't simple cardboard cutouts erica, people are complex.

LIFE is complex erica.

Talking to you as if you had a functioning adult brain is like pissing into the wind.

Useless.

Just like YOU are erica.

Btw bitch, how's my "rubbing two nickels together" doing eh bitch?

I got a nice 17 foot Alumaweld Styrker w a 90 horse jet on her! Full canvas and electronics erica. Fish already fear me, now I will make them all pay, while setting up fish for this coming winter.

Maybe your mommy will buy you some nice fish sticks erica?

Maybe you could borrow a couple of nickels from her? Maybe she has some BALLS she could loan you also?

You F'ing never been nowhere, never done nothing, no deployment, no zone, simpering little bubble headed WOG bitch.

WAS BENEDICT ARNOLD A HERO, you little simpering ball less WOG BITCH?

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-03-25   18:25:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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