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Title: America's Youth 'Dependency Dilemma' Is A Political Problem, Not Just A Family One
Source: cnsnews
URL Source: http://cnsnews.com/blog/bill-hobbs/ ... al-problem-not-just-family-one
Published: Mar 19, 2012
Author: Bill Hobbs
Post Date: 2012-03-19 06:46:42 by CZ82
Keywords: None
Views: 6483
Comments: 24

America's Youth 'Dependency Dilemma' Is A Political Problem, Not Just A Family One

By Bill Hobbs

March 16, 2012

“Researchers at UCLA are studying the habits of middle-class families,” reports the Wall Street Journal today, “asking intriguing questions like why are American kids so helpless and dependent?”

The story, “A Field Guide to the Middle-Class U.S. Family," reports on the work of anthropologist Elinor Ochs and her colleagues at the University of California, Los Angeles, who have studied family life as far away as Samoa and the Peruvian Amazon region, but more recently have been studying the American middle class and asking questions like this one: Why do American children depend on their parents to do things for them that they are capable of doing for themselves?

Among the findings: The families had very a child-centered focus, which may help explain the "dependency dilemma" seen among American middle-class families, says Dr. Ochs. Parents intend to develop their children's independence, yet raise them to be relatively dependent, even when the kids have the skills to act on their own, she says. How kids develop moral responsibility is an area of focus for the researchers. Dr. Ochs, who began her career in far-off regions of the world studying the concept of "baby talk," noticed that American children seemed relatively helpless compared with those in other cultures she and colleagues had observed.

In those cultures, young children were expected to contribute substantially to the community, says Dr. Ochs. Children in Samoa serve food to their elders, waiting patiently in front of them before they eat, as shown in one video snippet. Another video clip shows a girl around 5 years of age in Peru's Amazon region climbing a tall tree to harvest papaya, and helping haul logs thicker than her leg to stoke a fire.

By contrast, the U.S. videos showed Los Angeles parents focusing more on the children, using simplified talk with them, doing most of the housework and intervening quickly when the kids had trouble completing a task. In 22 of 30 families, children frequently ignored or resisted appeals to help, according to a study published in the journal Ethos in 2009. In the remaining eight families, the children weren't asked to do much. It isn't that the kids were unable to do the tasks or that their parents didn't express a need for help, say the researchers. Rather, the studied children didn't seem to view it as their routine responsibility to contribute, the researchers say.

Reading through the story, you may recognize these children. Or, rather, you may recognize their self-centered attitudes, their laziness and their insistence that others take care of them in others around you.

You have seen it from people at your local Occupy encampment, sitting in a tent, demanding the “1 percent” give them what they want, refusing to take responsibility for their own lives.

You have seen it from people who stupidly wracked up six-figure student loan debts for degrees that are near-worthless in the job market, and now want government to forgive their loans.

You have seen it recently on the national news, when a 30-year-old law student at a school whose graduates make, on average, $160,000 a year in their first job after law school, demanded Congress make someone else pay for her birth control.

You are seeing it now from the Democratic Party, which once was lead by a President who said, “Ask not what your country can do for you, Ask what you can do for your country,” but which now is lead by a President who talks endlessly about making others pay more in order to fund more bailouts and subsidies for his constituent groups and favored supporters.

The “dependency dilemma” is not just a middle-class American family problem. It's America's political problem, too.

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#1. To: CZ82 (#0)

You have seen it recently on the national news, when a 30-year-old law student at a school whose graduates make, on average, $160,000 a year in their first job after law school, demanded Congress make someone else pay for her birth control.

Students (or their parents) are required by the university to have and pay for health insurance. Do you think students have the right to lobby for what they want and need in a product they are required to purchase?

Perhaps freedom loving "real" conservatives recognize only the rights of the controlling authority, in this case the university, to make rules which the lessor folk must follow without question.

For all students, good health is essential to achieving educational goals. Because maintaining good health requires access to health care when you need it, Georgetown University requires the students described below to have health insurance.

* Most students who are charged Georgetown University tuition and registered in resident thesis research or registered for nine or more credit hours in a GU degree program (eight or more credit hours if a law or graduate student) are eligible and required to enroll in the most comprehensive student injury and sickness plan offered through the University, unless their other insurance coverage meets specific University requirements.

A charge for this Premier Plan is placed on eligible students' accounts, per their registration status referenced above, once per Academic Year.

http://studentaffairs.georgetown.edu/insurance/

Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady

lucysmom  posted on  2012-03-20   11:10:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: lucysmom (#1)

Students (or their parents) are required by the university to have and pay for health insurance. Do you think students have the right to lobby for what they want and need in a product they are required to purchase?

When I was in college I was still covered under my parents' hospital specific health care plan, but it didn't matter to them. I still had to buy their plan as they had their own hospital on campus.

Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET

mininggold  posted on  2012-03-20   11:23:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: mininggold (#2)

I still had to buy their plan as they had their own hospital on campus.

Single payer would put an end to that.

Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady

lucysmom  posted on  2012-03-20   11:28:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: lucysmom (#3)

Single payer would put an end to that.

Ah yes the pick and choose who and what we want to treat plan.....

The plan where some political hack chooses who the winners and losers are... Kinda like the current income tax system!!

"If you voted for Obama in 2008 to prove you're not a racist, you'll need to vote for someone else in 2012 to prove you're not an idiot."

CZ82  posted on  2012-03-20   19:12:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: CZ82 (#4)

The plan where some political hack chooses who the winners and losers are...

My chronically ill mother had those fears before Medicare became law.

Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady

lucysmom  posted on  2012-03-20   19:19:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: lucysmom (#5)

The plan where some political hack chooses who the winners and losers are...

My chronically ill mother had those fears before Medicare became law.

So what happens when the money runs out??????

"If you voted for Obama in 2008 to prove you're not a racist, you'll need to vote for someone else in 2012 to prove you're not an idiot."

CZ82  posted on  2012-03-20   19:31:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: lucysmom (#3)

Single payer would put an end to that.

Canada has a single payer system.

You could move there. It's not far.

We The People  posted on  2012-03-20   19:37:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: We The People (#7)

Single payer would put an end to that.

Canada has a single payer system.

You could move there. It's not far.

I'd contribute $10 to help buy her a bus ticket!!!! :^)

"If you voted for Obama in 2008 to prove you're not a racist, you'll need to vote for someone else in 2012 to prove you're not an idiot."

CZ82  posted on  2012-03-20   19:54:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: CZ82 (#6)

So what happens when the money runs out??????

Do you expect money to run out of the private health insurance sector?

Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady

lucysmom  posted on  2012-03-20   20:33:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: lucysmom (#9)

So what happens when the money runs out??????

Do you expect money to run out of the private health insurance sector?

That would depend on how much government interference there is....

"If you voted for Obama in 2008 to prove you're not a racist, you'll need to vote for someone else in 2012 to prove you're not an idiot."

CZ82  posted on  2012-03-20   20:46:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: CZ82 (#10)

That would depend on how much government interference there is....

Well yeah, I can see how government insisting insurance companies deliver on the services they're selling could be a problem.

Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady

lucysmom  posted on  2012-03-20   20:50:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: lucysmom (#11)

Well yeah, I can see how government insisting insurance companies deliver on the services they're selling could be a problem.

So what about the services they currently don't offer that the government wants to force them to provide, for free no less!!!

And who is going to force/insist the government deliver on it's promises for services to be provided under ObozoCare that we all know they won't provide because the government has determined it costs too much?????

"If you voted for Obama in 2008 to prove you're not a racist, you'll need to vote for someone else in 2012 to prove you're not an idiot."

CZ82  posted on  2012-03-20   21:08:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: CZ82 (#12)

So what about the services they currently don't offer that the government wants to force them to provide, for free no less!!!

Such as?

Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady

lucysmom  posted on  2012-03-20   23:46:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: lucysmom (#13)

So what about the services they currently don't offer that the government wants to force them to provide, for free no less!!!

Such as?

That depends on the company and what state they are doing business in, but some that come to mind are Lasik, cosmetic surgery, lipo suction, organ transplants, contraception and abortion..... (And before you say they aren't wanting them to cover these some of things, give them time it will happen.... the last 2 are proof of that)!!

Most people know that the ultimate goal for government is to push private insurance out the door to go to single payer or universal healthcare.... It's all about control and power over the citizens, not empathy, nothing more nothing less..... it's not about healthcare at all but you can think it if you want, if it makes you feel better about who you support!!!

I'm curious as to what the "dictatorship in waiting" is gonna think when doctors start refusing to see patients because they can't make any money at it.... Oohhh that's right they already have started to refuse Medicare patients.... remember Obozo pulled 1/2 trillion from the program!!!! And good luck trying to force the doctors into seeing them because they will just close shop or retire and find some sunny beach in the Caribbean on the Med to enjoy!!!!

Just remember... healthcare in this country is expensive because of the state and government mandates, not because the average "productive" customer wants policies that cover everything!!!!

"If you voted for Obama in 2008 to prove you're not a racist, you'll need to vote for someone else in 2012 to prove you're not an idiot."

CZ82  posted on  2012-03-21   7:22:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: CZ82 (#14)

That depends on the company and what state they are doing business in, but some that come to mind are Lasik, cosmetic surgery, lipo suction, organ transplants, contraception and abortion..... (And before you say they aren't wanting them to cover these some of things, give them time it will happen.... the last 2 are proof of that)!!

Most people know that the ultimate goal for government is to push private insurance out the door to go to single payer or universal healthcare.... It's all about control and power over the citizens, not empathy, nothing more nothing less..... it's not about healthcare at all but you can think it if you want, if it makes you feel better about who you support!!!

First you complain about all the medical services insurance companies will be required to cover, like cosmetic surgery and liposuction, then, in the very next paragraph, you complain that it is the goal of federal government, through "universal or single payer" (I wonder if you know what those two terms mean?) to have power over, and control citizens. As you write it though, what you're complaining about is government setting standards for its corporate citizens while providing more options for its human citizens.

Oohhh that's right they already have started to refuse Medicare patients.... remember Obozo pulled 1/2 trillion from the program!!!! And good luck trying to force the doctors into seeing them because they will just close shop or retire and find some sunny beach in the Caribbean on the Med to enjoy!!!!

One of my mother's doctors set up a free clinic after he retired and staffed it with his retired doctor friends. He said he loved medicine and enjoyed working without the constraints placed on him by health insurance.

It is interesting that youse hard-working "real" conservatives can't imagine any motivation to work other than money, while striving to take pay and benefits away from public employees. (BTW, what's the "Caribbean on the Med"?)

Reality check: The United States ranks #52 with 2.3 doctors per 1,000 population. We're kinda low on the list for a first world country.

www.nationmaster.com/grap...ysicians-per-1-000-people

Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady

lucysmom  posted on  2012-03-21   10:53:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: lucysmom (#15)

you complain that it is the goal of federal government, through "universal or single payer" (I wonder if you know what those two terms mean?)

Call it whatever you want (why don't you add in Medicare and Medicaid) it still is the same end game ------- Government controlled, taxpayer funded, rationed, halfassed healthcare!!!!

Leftards seem to like to call something by multiple names to get people confused as to what they really mean, but in the end it all describes one thing and one thing only.....

"If you voted for Obama in 2008 to prove you're not a racist, you'll need to vote for someone else in 2012 to prove you're not an idiot."

CZ82  posted on  2012-03-22   19:03:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: lucysmom (#15)

(BTW, what's the "Caribbean on the Med"?)

I typed one letter wrong it should be "the Caribbean OR the Med".....

"If you voted for Obama in 2008 to prove you're not a racist, you'll need to vote for someone else in 2012 to prove you're not an idiot."

CZ82  posted on  2012-03-22   19:05:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: lucysmom (#15)

Reality check: The United States ranks #52 with 2.3 doctors per 1,000 population. We're kinda low on the list for a first world country.

www.nationmaster.com/grap...ysicians-per-1-000-people

That statistic if from 10 years ago.......

"If you voted for Obama in 2008 to prove you're not a racist, you'll need to vote for someone else in 2012 to prove you're not an idiot."

CZ82  posted on  2012-03-22   19:17:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: lucysmom (#15)

First you complain about all the medical services insurance companies will be required to cover, like cosmetic surgery and liposuction, then, in the very next paragraph, you complain that it is the goal of federal government, through "universal or single payer" (I wonder if you know what those two terms mean?) to have power over, and control citizens. As you write it though, what you're complaining about is government setting standards for its corporate citizens while providing more options for its human citizens.

So why is the government involved in the first place if it isn't about them controlling the people or the insurance companies?????

Why can't the health insurance companies tailor their policies to meet the "Individual" customers needs/demands instead of what some political flunky/bureaucrat (idiot) at the state or federal level thinks everybody should have????? (Oh that's right those idiots are smarter than the "Individual" and know what they need).....NOT!!!

Why not let the customer buy and pay for what he really wants and needs instead of paying for things he doesn't want and/or need??? If you want a Cadillac policy then you should pay a premium price for it and if you want a Yugo policy then you pay next to nothing for it...... (Can't do that, can't let people be "FREE" to pick and choose what they want)....(they have to be told what to do).... NOT!!!!

Why do you think some people don't purchase healthcare policies even though they can afford to do so????? Waste of money maybe????

So this brings us back to why we "DON"T" need ObozoCare in the first place!!!! I guess you have forgotten about the fines that will kick in soon for people not buying a HealthCare policy??? The people that can't afford a policy now won't be able to afford one then, and the government will be fining them for being poor.... Now does that make any sense???? That doesn't seem to be very empathetic...... Sounds more like control of their lives to me!!!!

"If you voted for Obama in 2008 to prove you're not a racist, you'll need to vote for someone else in 2012 to prove you're not an idiot."

CZ82  posted on  2012-03-22   19:49:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: CZ82 (#18)

That statistic if from 10 years ago.......

What is it now?

Never mind, you'll never look it up.

The answer is 2.4 doctors per 1,000 people as of 2009.

If you look at the price of health care inputs, you’ll see that we pay more per pill and per MRI as well. But the doctors thing is crucial. How is it that US physicians are earning higher incomes even while American patients see them less frequently? Well, our doctors are scarce...

It seems like common sense that if America is going to devote an above-average share of output to medical care while having close to the highest per capita output, we should have an above average number of doctors. Instead, we’re way below average.

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?hl=en&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&channel=s&q=cache:FyaVBDVPVEAJ:http://thinkprogress.org/yglesias/2011/11/10/366219/america-needs-more-doctor/+doctors+per+capita+united+states+2011&ct=clnk

Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady

lucysmom  posted on  2012-03-22   21:44:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: CZ82 (#19)

o why is the government involved in the first place if it isn't about them controlling the people or the insurance companies?????

Why can't the health insurance companies tailor their policies to meet the "Individual" customers needs/demands instead of what some political flunky/bureaucrat (idiot) at the state or federal level thinks everybody should have????? (Oh that's right those idiots are smarter than the "Individual" and know what they need).....NOT!!!

So then you think someone should go without health insurance until they get, say, cancer and then get free health care at the expense of your tax paying neighbors cause they sure ain't gonna get insurance at that point for any price?

I'm beginning to think your objection is the prospect of having to pay something for your medical care instead of getting it for free.

Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady

lucysmom  posted on  2012-03-22   21:53:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: lucysmom (#21)

So then you think someone should go without health insurance until they get, say, cancer and then get free health care at the expense of your tax paying neighbors cause they sure ain't gonna get insurance at that point for any price?

That's what ObozoCare will probably allow to happen, because the current system doesn't allow it.... As you well know having the pre-existing conditions you have... or so you say....

"If you voted for Obama in 2008 to prove you're not a racist, you'll need to vote for someone else in 2012 to prove you're not an idiot."

CZ82  posted on  2012-03-23   18:55:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: CZ82 (#22)

That's what ObozoCare will probably allow to happen, because the current system doesn't allow it.... As you well know having the pre-existing conditions you have... or so you say....

That's correct, the private sector (insurance companies) dumps its high risk customers on the public sector (Medicaid, state and local programs).

Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady

lucysmom  posted on  2012-03-23   19:03:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: lucysmom (#21)

I'm beginning to think your objection is the prospect of having to pay something for your medical care instead of getting it for free.

I currently have 2 policies, one is mandated because of employment and the other is voluntary..... The one that is mandated I would like to get rid of because it is way too expensive for what they actually cover, I could find a better way to spend that money..... like put it into my retirement fund!!!!

"If you voted for Obama in 2008 to prove you're not a racist, you'll need to vote for someone else in 2012 to prove you're not an idiot."

CZ82  posted on  2012-03-23   19:03:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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