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Title: Lucysmom and mininggold are the same poster beware
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Published: Mar 7, 2012
Author: A K A Stone
Post Date: 2012-03-07 15:19:16 by A K A Stone
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Comments: 188

They are the same poster.

Proof here on ths thread libertysflame.com/cgi-bin...?ArtNum=21416&Disp=63#C63

You see minningold posted this

#63. To: Wood_Chopper (#62)

You little sweetheart you, re-writing the pledge are you?

So now its worded, "I pledge allegiance to the government" according to you.

I see you've even resorted to changing my posts in order to try to make YOUR point. But I see you can't refute anything...... again.

mininggold posted on 2011-06-21 12:41:38 ET Reply Trace Private Reply Edit

You see the only problem is that it was a post from Lucysmom. Here is her post

#62. To: lucysmom (#53)

Imagine how they would scream if government schools decided not to have children begin their day by pledging allegiance to the government

You little sweetheart you, re-writing the pledge are you?

So now its worded, "I pledge allegiance to the government" according to you.

Wood_Chopper posted on 2011-06-21 12:38:34 ET Reply Untrace Trace Private Reply Edit #63. To: Wood_Chopper (#62)

You little sweetheart you, re-writing the pledge are you?

So now its worded, "I pledge allegiance to the government" according to you.

I see you've even resorted to changing my posts in order to try to make YOUR point. But I see you can't refute anything...... again.

mininggold posted on 2011-06-21 12:41:38 ET Reply Untrace Trace Private Reply Edit Replies to Comment # 63.

#65. To: mininggold, A K A Stone (#63) (Edited)

You little sweetheart you, re-writing the pledge are you?

So now its worded, "I pledge allegiance to the government" according to you.

I see you've even resorted to changing my posts in order to try to make YOUR point. But I see you can't refute anything...... again.

Hey yukon, you're answering a post I made to lucysmom and claiming it as yours. Too many windows open???

Are you and lucysmom one and the same?

Wood_Chopper posted on 2011-06-21 12:56:52 ET Reply Untrace Trace Private Reply Edit

In case someone thinks I edited it like the liberal trash here is trying to say. That isn't the case or someone would have noticed it at the time. Also anyone is free to contact pinguinite to have him confirm that nothing has been edited. So what we have here is a liberal who needs 2 screen names to back themselves up. That poster is such a lightweight that they try to make up for it by having 2 screen names. That is against the rules. The poster in question could never "man" up and answer the question. So a warning to all forums these people are one in the same.

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#65. To: mininggold (#60)

Your time to address the question is running out. You know the question.

Tick tock tick tock

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-03-09   8:31:07 ET  [Locked]   Trace   Private Reply  


#66. To: lucysmom, Murron, Wood_Chopper, A K A Stone, Fred Mertz, mininggold, (#64)

"Personally I'm not wasting my time on it anymore, because this bunch sure can't shoot straight and I have nothing further to offer that hasn't already been said."

They are completely invested in the rightness of their theory and will not be dissuaded - true believers in a false reality.

And of course the problem is that nothing has been said, (by mininggold or lucysmom)that answered the question.

If anyone has a simple explanation then let's hear it and stop the juvenile resort to kicking the sand out of the box.

The 'false reality' is of your own devise, lucy.

harrowup  posted on  2012-03-09   8:40:29 ET  [Locked]   Trace   Private Reply  


#67. To: harrowup (#66)

Read my post on this thread.

I know for a fact that they are two different people. FACT. It's impossible to be in two places at the same time or for one person to be in one place as two people. IMPOSSIBLE.

You folks are fucking loons. And the fact that you would pick on two very sweet and likeable ladies, well, you should be ashamed of yourselves as "men".

I'll believe that a corporation is a person 1 second after Texas executes one...

war  posted on  2012-03-09   8:47:17 ET  [Locked]   Trace   Private Reply  


#68. To: war (#67)

War anyone can get on the internet and make the statement you made. It may be proved to you. That could be true. But that isn't proof for us.

I don't mean to start an inquisition. But it isn't fair when someone uses two screen names to back themselves up.

mininggold clearly talked about her post being changed. That is an indisputable fact. Another fact is that Lucysmom made that post. Another fact.

Those have never been addressed. Just dodged.

To tell you the truth I wish I knew they were different people. Then I wouldn't have to go asking these questions of people here.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-03-09   9:18:58 ET  [Locked]   Trace   Private Reply  


#69. To: war, mininggold, lucysmom (#67)

Read my post on this thread.

I did read it and was curious why April 2011 was the time you chose as the epiphany. I don't recall either of them engaging with me during that month of horrors but do note that they both were interested in goats in June and you were not.

Outside of this conundrum I've seen no similarity in their style in that mininggold sometimes has a sense of humor and lucy never.

The conclusion drawn from that could go either way. Hence my dilemma.

harrowup  posted on  2012-03-09   9:19:03 ET  [Locked]   Trace   Private Reply  


#70. To: ALL (#0)

Good Grief, i can't believe you folks have kept this silliness going for days.

Who really gives a RAT'S ASS.

calcon  posted on  2012-03-09   9:23:11 ET  [Locked]   Trace   Private Reply  


#71. To: war (#67)

http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=19500&Disp=9

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-03-09   9:24:19 ET  [Locked]   Trace   Private Reply  


#72. To: calcon (#70)

Who really gives a RAT'S ASS.

Those of us who find false charges odious.

harrowup  posted on  2012-03-09   9:27:00 ET  [Locked]   Trace   Private Reply  


#73. To: A K A Stone (#68) (Edited)

I don't mean to start an inquisition.

You started the thread, Stone. You look like a loon now that you're suddenly denying what your intent was.

I know for a fact that they are two different people. Period. End. Finis. TWO DIFFERENT PEOPLE.

You've put them both in a position where the only "proof" is for them to reveal themselves to eveyone here which neither of them SHOULD be forced to do.

Repeat this until it sinks in: I know for a fact that they are two different people. I know for a fact that they are two different people. I know for a fact...

You used to have a political website. I told you the moment that you allowed Boofer on here that it would die. He posted here and then went and shit on you everywhere else - as he always did and does.

I told you that if you did not control Padlock/no gnu and his *nigger* compulsion, you'd never attract any significant posters. So what did you do? You joined in.

Look at this place, Stone. So much potential that ran at its best when you were nowhere to be found.

I'll believe that a corporation is a person 1 second after Texas executes one...

war  posted on  2012-03-09   9:29:33 ET  [Locked]   Trace   Private Reply  


#74. To: war (#73)

Sorry but your word isn't good enough.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-03-09   9:31:03 ET  [Locked]   Trace   Private Reply  


#75. To: A K A Stone (#74)

I don't give a shit whether you *think* it's good enough or not. You're hardly a man of honor.

I'll believe that a corporation is a person 1 second after Texas executes one...

war  posted on  2012-03-09   9:32:45 ET  [Locked]   Trace   Private Reply  


#76. To: war, A K A Stone (#73)

I know for a fact that they are two different people. I know for a fact that they are two different people. I know for a fact...

And I know for a fact that you repeatedly lied to me in pm's so where does that leave the question of your credibility?

harrowup  posted on  2012-03-09   9:33:37 ET  [Locked]   Trace   Private Reply  


#77. To: harrowup, A K A Stone (#66)

If anyone has a simple explanation then let's hear it and stop the juvenile resort to kicking the sand out of the box.

Sometimes it's helpful to go back to original material - look what I found:

#67. To: Wood_Chopper (#65) (Edited)

Hey yukon, you're answering a post I made to lucysmom and claiming it as yours. Too many windows open???

Are you and lucysmom one and the same?

Sorry, I forgot someone as perfect as yourself never makes mistakes. I see you put a call in to your mommy to help you out.

mininggold posted on 2011-06-21 13:01:41 ET Reply Trace Private Reply

Why wasn't mininggold's explanation been included in Stone's "proof"? Do you reject mininggold's explanation?

BTW, Wood_Chopper is on my bozo list and has been for a long time - does it make sense to you that I would bozo someone as lucysmom, and not as mininggold? You fearless investigators could check out your theory by reviewing both mininggold's and my posting history over - say - the past year.

Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady

lucysmom  posted on  2012-03-09   9:34:48 ET  [Locked]   Trace   Private Reply  


#78. To: A K A Stone (#68)

I don't mean to start an inquisition. But it isn't fair when someone uses two screen names to back themselves up.

Do you think it's fair to ban someone or limit their posts as you've done with mininggold because some nut with an ax to grind makes a false accusation?

Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady

lucysmom  posted on  2012-03-09   9:39:31 ET  [Locked]   Trace   Private Reply  


#79. To: lucysmom (#77)

Someone I trust thinks I'm wrong. I still think I'm right but will probably let it pass. I hope you would at least admit the comment is suspicious? Can you admit that much?

I've already bumped mings posting limit up. Maybe I will remove it entirely. Let me think on it.

I would also hope you agree that it is fair for me to want people to only have one screen name.

I will also admit that if someone slips by and has 2 names it is not the end of the world. Buck does it all the time. I zap them as I find them. His are easier as he has the same ip numbers.

This wasn't because of your politics which are different then mine. If you remember I took the thread down a while back because I was going to let it pass until I received the message containing the comment in question. Then I opened it back up because my interest stirred.

Sincerely A K A Stone

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-03-09   9:42:28 ET  [Locked]   Trace   Private Reply  


#80. To: A K A Stone (#74)

Sorry but your word isn't good enough.

and CE's word is good enough for you to start these threads and ban mininggold?

Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady

lucysmom  posted on  2012-03-09   9:44:33 ET  [Locked]   Trace   Private Reply  


#81. To: harrowup (#76)

Post the PM's and point out the repeated lies. If you don't. I will.

I'll believe that a corporation is a person 1 second after Texas executes one...

war  posted on  2012-03-09   9:44:54 ET  [Locked]   Trace   Private Reply  


#82. To: lucysmom (#80)

and CE's word is good enough for you to start these threads and ban mininggold?

When ming said her post was changed. That is called a clue. If Yukon had said that you guys would be all over him.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-03-09   9:46:13 ET  [Locked]   Trace   Private Reply  


#83. To: war, harrowup (#81)

If you folks want to go down that route. Please do it on a different thread.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-03-09   9:47:40 ET  [Locked]   Trace   Private Reply  


#84. To: A K A Stone (#83)

He's not going to post them. There's not one lie let alone any that were "repeated".

You should rename this site "paranoiacsflame" as they seem to be attacrted to this place like moths...

I'll believe that a corporation is a person 1 second after Texas executes one...

war  posted on  2012-03-09   9:50:40 ET  [Locked]   Trace   Private Reply  


#85. To: lucysmom, Murron, Wood_Chopper, A K A Stone, Fred Mertz, mininggold, war, calcon (#77)

Do you reject mininggold's explanation?

Yes because in #63 mininggold wrote:

"I see you've even resorted to changing my posts in order to try to make YOUR point. But I see you can't refute anything...... again.

And that has not been explained.

But, Stone has said the hell with it so the hell with it.

harrowup  posted on  2012-03-09   9:52:31 ET  [Locked]   Trace   Private Reply  


#86. To: harrowup (#85)

"I see you've even resorted to changing my posts in order to try to make YOUR point. But I see you can't refute anything...... again.

And that has not been explained.

But, Stone has said the hell with it so the hell with it.

They are 99 percent likely the same poster.

war never said if he met both of them.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-03-09   9:54:21 ET  [Locked]   Trace   Private Reply  


#87. To: A K A Stone, war (#83)

If you folks want to go down that route. Please do it on a different thread.

I have no intention of posting his pm's and if he wishes to post them he can do so on another thread of his choice. He is a lying blivet.

Glad to have helped.[:~)]

harrowup  posted on  2012-03-09   9:57:23 ET  [Locked]   Trace   Private Reply  


#88. To: A K A Stone (#79)

I still think I'm right but will probably let it pass.

Weasel words!

I hope you would at least admit the comment is suspicious? Can you admit that much?

mininggold said at the time, she made a mistake, did you bother to read that far before launching your attack, or just ignore what she said?

This wasn't because of your politics which are different then mine.

Then funny you should mention it.

Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady

lucysmom  posted on  2012-03-09   10:03:44 ET  [Locked]   Trace   Private Reply  


#89. To: lucysmom (#88)

mininggold said at the time, she made a mistake, did you bother to read that far before launching your attack, or just ignore what she said?

Of course if you fuck up and are caught you are going to say you made a mistake.

Mininggold also said I changed the post. Which is it?

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-03-09   10:06:07 ET  [Locked]   Trace   Private Reply  


#90. To: lucysmom (#77)

Why wasn't mininggold's explanation been included in Stone's "proof"

Because he's a loon.

That is the post I was referring to earlier up-thread as an explanation - she made a mistake. It's crystal clear to me.

Thanks for posting it again for the ace detectives to ponder.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2012-03-09   10:09:29 ET  [Locked]   Trace   Private Reply  


#91. To: A K A Stone, mininggold (#89)

Of course if you fuck up and are caught you are going to say you made a mistake.

Just think, Stone, if I am even half the bimbo CE says I am, how could I have kept up this deception for so long, across two sites, with so few slip ups?

Mininggold also said I changed the post. Which is it?

Ask mininggold.

Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady

lucysmom  posted on  2012-03-09   10:15:24 ET  [Locked]   Trace   Private Reply  


#92. To: Fred Mertz (#90)

That is the post I was referring to earlier up-thread as an explanation - she made a mistake. It's crystal clear to me.

Thanks for posting it again for the ace detectives to ponder.

I guess "real conservatives" never make mistakes so it is hard for them to imagine.

Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady

lucysmom  posted on  2012-03-09   10:25:16 ET  [Locked]   Trace   Private Reply  


#93. To: lucysmom, Murron, Wood_Chopper, A K A Stone, Fred Mertz, mininggold, war, calcon (#77)

You fearless investigators could check out your theory by reviewing both mininggold's and my posting history over - say - the past year.

Well, I did and look what popped up.

#106. To: lucysmom (#103)

Thank you. Until this morning MD was the only name in my bozo filter.

He sounds like another one of those Good Conservatives™ who hate the first amendment and 'think' women should give up the vote and not be able to own property.

mininggold posted on 2011-06-03 11:34:00 ET Reply Trace Private Reply

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- #107. To: mininggold (#106)

He sounds like another one of those Good Conservatives™ who hate the first amendment and 'think' women should give up the vote and not be able to own property. In other words, limiting freedom to himself and his ilk.

lucysmom posted on 2011-06-03 12:12:05 ET Reply Trace Private Reply

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- #108. To: lucysmom (#107)

In other words, limiting freedom to himself and his ilk.

Yeah, I don't know what they are so scared of. Seeing big grown 'men' quivering like a bowl of jello every time they hear a little difference of opinion is a little disconcerting and more a tell on the future of this country than their constant rehashing of doomsday scenarios.

mininggold posted on 2011-06-03 12:22:37 ET Reply Trace Private Reply

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- #109. To: mininggold (#108)

Seeing big grown 'men' quivering like a bowl of jello every time they hear a little difference of opinion is a little disconcerting and more a tell on the future of this country than their constant rehashing of doomsday scenarios. It is a limbic brain response that only knows flight or fight without thought or reason.

lucysmom posted on 2011-06-03 12:29:15 ET Reply Trace Private Reply

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- #110. To: lucysmom (#109)

It is a limbic brain response that only knows flight or fight without thought or reason.

Yet most profess to having served in the military which specifically teaches recruits how to deal with that response.

mininggold posted on 2011-06-03 12:38:06 ET Reply Trace Private Reply

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- #111. To: mininggold (#110)

Yet most profess to having served in the military which specifically teaches recruits how to deal with that response. Oh my, are you suggesting...?

lucysmom posted on 2011-06-03 16:53:13 ET Reply Trace Private Reply

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- #112. To: lucysmom, mininggold (#111) I swear that whenever you two fat azzed gibbering morons get together the world actually gets DUMBER.

You two gibbering libTURDS are incapable of even a semblance independent thought.

You NEED the herd.

YOU can't live without it.

You certainly never have, have you?

Mad Dog posted on 2011-06-03 17:18:46 ET Reply Trace Private Reply

harrowup  posted on  2012-03-09   10:27:40 ET  [Locked]   Trace   Private Reply  


#94. To: harrowup (#69)

I did read it and was curious why April 2011 was the time you chose as the epiphany.

I travel a lot for business.

Now go point out my repeated lies.

Thanks.

I'll believe that a corporation is a person 1 second after Texas executes one...

war  posted on  2012-03-09   10:30:45 ET  [Locked]   Trace   Private Reply  


#95. To: war, A K A Stone (#94)

Now go point out my repeated lies.

Everyone of your pm's to me were lies and you've already posted them.

One can assume your lack of character is well known around here and I guess I don't need to point out to anyone that I've never seen anyone post pm's before and wonder if that is why you have such a guilt complex.

harrowup  posted on  2012-03-09   10:39:01 ET  [Locked]   Trace   Private Reply  


#96. To: harrowup (#93)

So what's your point? You know I'm really stupid so you'll have to spell it out in simple terms for me.

Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady

lucysmom  posted on  2012-03-09   10:40:13 ET  [Locked]   Trace   Private Reply  


#97. To: harrowup (#95)

Everyone of your pm's to me were lies and you've already posted them.

That's a lie.

If it works for you it works for me. The fact is, there aren't any lies told by me in those PM's. And I retract any nice thing I said about you. You have no honor.

I'll believe that a corporation is a person 1 second after Texas executes one...

war  posted on  2012-03-09   10:43:09 ET  [Locked]   Trace   Private Reply  


#98. To: lucysmom (#91)

Just think, Stone, if I am even half the bimbo CE says I am, how could I have kept up this deception for so long, across two sites, with so few slip ups?

Two separate computers. One a mac and the other a PC.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-03-09   10:55:59 ET  [Locked]   Trace   Private Reply  


#99. To: A K A Stone, lucysmom (#98)

Two separate computers. One a mac and the other a PC.

You flatter yourself little man. This site full of rag tag Israel Firster, LP wannabees, isn't worth the effort.

Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET

mininggold  posted on  2012-03-09   11:02:08 ET  [Locked]   Trace   Private Reply  


#100. To: lucysmom, Murron, Wood_Chopper, A K A Stone, Fred Mertz, mininggold, Mad Dog (#96)

So what's your point? ...you'll have to spell it out in simple terms for me.

My point is simple. That dialogue represents some of the best tag team BS I've ever seen; not as polished as mine, but my hat is off to you both.

I would caution you however, that when 'quoting' your other self it is best not to run the quote into an expansion of the original.

Blows your cover, every time.

Don't know about anyone else, but I'm ready to vote.

Full disclosure here. I like Mad Dog and his opinions and character judgements. His choice of that particular derogatory definition of you is as Rush Limbaugh might say a bit much but given your recent performance I would definitely put you in for postmenopausal passive/aggressive tag team of the year.

Guilty.

harrowup  posted on  2012-03-09   11:03:25 ET  [Locked]   Trace   Private Reply  


#101. To: harrowup (#100) (Edited)

Guilty.

A guilty verdict,yet you are wrong again. When will you guys ever learn to shoot straight? When Bibi tells you where to aim?

You like Mad Dog because he's an iIsrael Firster traitor like you. He has an excuse though, as he covorted with one too many Vallejo hookers. And she left him with a calling card.

Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET

mininggold  posted on  2012-03-09   11:07:36 ET  [Locked]   Trace   Private Reply  


#102. To: mininggold (#101)

You like Mad Dog because he's an iIsrael Firster traitor like you.

That is the second time you have called me a traitor.

That is not the first time I've seen your anti-semitism so obvious.

I like Mad Dog because he is funny and irreverant.

I don't like or dislike you, but am fairly certain I wouldn't if we met given your confusion about goats.

harrowup  posted on  2012-03-09   11:15:10 ET  [Locked]   Trace   Private Reply  


#103. To: harrowup (#102) (Edited)

That is the second time you have called me a traitor. That is not the first time I've seen your anti-semitism so obvious. I like Mad Dog because he is funny and irreverant. I don't like or dislike you, but am fairly certain I wouldn't if we met given your confusion about goats.

Good and hopefully not the last.

I am proudly selectively anti-semite but it's only aimed at those who put another country's interests over our own. Plus it's time you guys stopped getting a free ride and are called out on your freedom of speech hating double standard. I'm sure it's my tagline that really is the crux of the whole matter here.

And as far as the goats go I think you are mixing me up with other posters, which seems to be a common dysfunction among you stalwart so called conservatives. I have had some goats in the past, but I prefer cows.

And I've never seen so much paranoia generated on one site. You guys need to GET A GRIP.

Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET

mininggold  posted on  2012-03-09   11:36:41 ET  [Locked]   Trace   Private Reply  


#104. To: mininggold, lucysmom, A K A Stone (#103)

And as far as the goats go I think you are mixing me up with other posters, which seems to be a common dysfunction among you stalwart so called conservatives.

Well, you and lucy surely fooled me:

#6. To: harrowup...[snip]... Calm down. You need your strength for the goats.

mininggold posted on 2011-06-14 14:24:59 ET

#10. To: mininggold (#6)

"Calm down. You need your strength for the goats."

As calm as can be; doesn't take much energy to whack a dumbass [war].

As to goats, they are exceptionally receptive to honest and kind direction.

Goats are a quick read of a human's character; I assume you and the dwarf have been kicked by more than one.

harrowup posted on 2011-06-14 14:28:51 ET

#12. To: harrowup (#10)

"As calm as can be; doesn't take much energy to whack a dumbass. As to goats, they are exceptionally receptive to honest and kind direction.

Goats are a quick read of a human's character; I assume you and the dwarf have been kicked by more than one. "

I've had goats before. They stink and the Alpines like to climb the horse fence to get out of the pastures. And definitely weren't worth pricewise the cost of putting up goat proof fences.

mininggold posted on 2011-06-14 14:34:59 ET

#19. To: mininggold (#12)

"They stink and the Alpines like to climb the horse fence to get out of the pastures. And definitely weren't worth pricewise the cost of putting up goat proof fences."

Most goats don't bother to climb the fence; they just open the gate!

harrowup posted on 2011-06-14 16:06:53 ET

#35. To: harrowup (#19)

"Most goats don't bother to climb the fence; they just open the gate! "

You've NEVER had Swiss Alpine then.

mininggold posted on 2011-06-14 23:22:15 ET Reply Trace Private Reply

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- #36. To: mininggold (#35)

""Most goats don't bother to climb the fence; they just open the gate! "

"You've NEVER had Swiss Alpine then.""

That was a joke in an attempt to illuminate my opinion that goats are a hell of a lot smarter than most folks give them credit for. ... harrowup posted on 2011-06-14 23:47:18 ET Reply Trace Private Reply

#40. To: mininggold (#35)

"You've NEVER had Swiss Alpine then. "

I had both an alpine and a toggenburg growing up They were indeed good at opening gates but a chain and padlock took care of that.

lucysmom posted on 2011-06-15 0:24:33 ET

Sweetie, you two just keep digging that hole deeper and deeper.

harrowup  posted on  2012-03-09   12:15:46 ET  [Locked]   Trace   Private Reply  



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