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Title: Dawkins Admits He Cannot Prove God Does Not Exist
Source: GFP.com
URL Source: http://godfatherpolitics.com/4011/d ... nnot-prove-god-does-not-exist/
Published: Mar 5, 2012
Author: Giacomo
Post Date: 2012-03-05 13:55:53 by CZ82
Keywords: None
Views: 48180
Comments: 108

Dawkins Admits He Cannot Prove God Does Not Exist

March 5, 2012 by Giacomo

For centuries, people have claimed to be atheists because no one could prove to them that God exists. One of the most ardent members of that group has been British author Richard Dawkins. I’ve read and listened to Dawkins challenge believers to prove to him that God exists and that if they could he might believe in God.

But in reality, the opposite is true. The onus is on people like Dawkins to prove there is no God and this is something he has finally realized he cannot do. With the realization that he cannot prove God does not exist, Dawkins shocked many throughout the world with his announcement that he is not an atheist after all, but rather he would classify himself as an agnostic.

The definition of an agnostic is someone who believes that the existence of God is unknown and that human knowledge is limited to physical evidence plus things that can be experienced and this is where Dawkins find himself.

However, many Christians, like evangelist and author Ray Comfort, challenge Dawkins statement about being an agnostic and that it has everything to do with evidence and proving that God does not exist. Rather, Comfort says that people like Dawkins are making a decision on the moral choice to deny the existence of God. If they acknowledged God in any form, they would have to realize that they would have a moral obligation to be responsible to Him.

Comfort goes even further and describes Dawkins as not only being ignorant but of being an ignoramus. He explains,

“Richard Dawkins is ignorant when it comes to the existence of God. However, it’s a willful ignorance. He has in the past stated that he believes that nothing created everything, which is a scientific impossibility. It’s not only impossible, it’s crazy to believe that. That’s why the Bible uses the word ‘fool’ to describe someone who says that God doesn’t exist.

“Professing atheists will often slip into pleading ignorance, but that plea doesn’t solve their case, because they just move from being a ‘fool’ to being an ‘ignoramus.’

“The word ‘ignoramus’ is a legal term derived from a Latin word meaning ‘we do not know. An ignoramus is like a man who looks at a building and says that he ‘doesn’t know’ if a builder exists. Obviously, the building is proof that there was a builder, because buildings don’t build themselves.

“The reason why anyone would be that ignorant is clear. It’s not a case of a lack of evidence. The problem with Professor Dawkins isn’t intellectual, but moral. He doesn’t want to admit that God exists, because if he does, he’s admitting that he’s morally responsible to Him.”

I found the definition of agnostic interesting because it is not only based on physical evidence, but also relies on things that can be experienced. I don’t know about you, but I’ve experienced the presence of God numerous times in my life. I’ve witnessed things that defy all natural explanation and can only be explained by a God who watches over and gets involved in our lives. To be honest, I didn’t pick my wife some 42 years ago, but rather I can see where God caused a number of things to happen, that shouldn’t have happened, that led to us getting together. (Knowing that God picked her out for me also tells me that I have to do whatever it takes to make sure nothing happens to destroy our marriage.)

Deep inside all of us we experience the presence of God as we were made in His image with an ingrained knowledge of him from the very beginning. One of my favorite examples of this was Helen Keller, who at the young age of 19 months developed a fever that left her blind and deaf. She was so young at the time that she had little memory of vision or hearing. She grew up in a black and soundless world without any communication with others, other than touch until Ann Sullivan found a way to communicate to her.

In one of her letters, Helen told Bishop Brooks that she had always known about God, even before she had any words. Before she could call God anything, she knew God was there. She didn’t know what it was. God had no name for her — nothing had a name for her. She had no concept of a name. But in her darkness and isolation, she knew she was not alone. Someone was with her. She felt God’s love. And when she received the gift of language and heard about God, she said she already knew.

If Richard Dawkins is correct, Helen Keller should never have been able to experience the presence of God, but she did because the knowledge of God is part of who we all are. Therefore, Ray Comfort is absolutely correct when he says that Dawkins and others are making a moral decision to deny the existence of God since they know that God exists in them and cannot prove to others that He doesn’t

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#19. To: CZ82 (#0) (Edited)

The onus is on people like Dawkins to prove there is no God

Actually, neither proposition is provable.

We live in the context of the universe in which we exist. We cannot possibly know what lies outside of the universe, how it started, or why it is here.

Some of us have faith that there is something more to our existence than random biological processes. But we can't prove it.

The atheists also cannot prove otherwise.

jwpegler  posted on  2012-03-05   19:39:51 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: jwpegler (#19)

But we can't prove it.

Didn't God say in the Bible that just looking at nature was enough to prove it?

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-03-05   19:41:34 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: A K A Stone (#20)

Didn't God say in the Bible that just looking at nature was enough to prove it?

The dozens of Hindu gods may have said something different. Karl Marx had a book too, which said something different as well.

We believe in Jesus due to our faith.

It is not probable or disprovable that our faith is wrong.

It's our faith.

jwpegler  posted on  2012-03-05   19:48:11 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: jwpegler (#21)

Everyone is given a measure of faith.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-03-05   19:57:38 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: A K A Stone (#22)

Everyone is given a measure of faith.

Yes, but the question is whether they use the faith that they have or not.

Being a Christian is all about believing that Jesus was the son of god.

Too many people have hardened their hearts to this for a lot of no good reasons.

jwpegler  posted on  2012-03-05   20:50:11 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: jwpegler, A K A Stone (#24)

Being a Christian is all about believing that Jesus was the son of god.

Being a Christian is all about knowing that Jesus IS the son of GOD.

There.

FIXED it for ya.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-03-06   2:16:53 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Mad Dog (#26)

Being a Christian is all about knowing that Jesus IS the son of GOD.

And judging by you, swearing like a drunk sailor and being an absolute asshole (except on Sunday of course).

Wood_Chopper  posted on  2012-03-06   2:26:40 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: Wood_Chopper (#27)

md; Being a Christian is all about knowing that Jesus IS the son of GOD.

boy; And judging by you, swearing like a drunk sailor and being an absolute asshole (except on Sunday of course).

You really are stoooooopid as a fence post aren't you woody boy?

Lets recap woody boy, a mere man, a sinner, knows what Christianity IS and so a God hating fool such as you wants to judge my putative "level" of Christianity, AND then to judge Christianity on it's LEAST and most flawed member, (me)?

LOL! What a F' ing FOOL you are woody! Pretty typical thought process for a libTURD loser such as YOU little boy. A admitted BAD individual, (ME), claims to be a Christian; so then God hating FOOLS such as you TRY to make THAT CHRISTIANITY'S fault or problem?

LOL!

That's what you libTURD scum do isn't it woody boy? You TRY to kill the TRUTH by attacking those who present it, eh loser?

Too bad for FOOLS such as you woody boy that the TRUTH is the TRUTH no matter who states it. But if SATAN himself speaks the actual TRUTH it is still the TRUTH you gibbering FOOL.

Where did I ever claim to be a GOOD Christian you gibbering piece of sh!t?

I'm a SINNER, my sins are CRIMSON, I have broken EVERY COMMANDMENT, I have KILLED, I have MURDERED (in the name of my nation), and MORE.

Yep I'm a SINNER ASSHOLE, EVERY day, including Sundays woody boy.

By MY SINS I am DOOMED, save for the MERCY and sacrifice for ME of the one true GOD.

But even I can HOPE for salvation through OUR Lord's sacrifice for us ALL.

I represent only myself.

BUT that does not change the TRUTH fool,

Being a Christian is all about knowing that Jesus IS the son of GOD.

If I was YOU little boy I'd be way more worried about my own sins and destination.

But, thank the Lord I'm not anybody but myself.

Don't like that little boy?

Here's 50 cents little boy, call somebody that cares.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-03-06   15:26:29 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: Mad Dog (#32)

I think you're being a little hard on yourself.

Wood_Chopper  posted on  2012-03-06   20:00:40 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: Wood_Chopper (#48) (Edited)

LOL!

Well done woody boy!

(When thought to be a fool it is best to remain silent so as not to prove it!)

Fish in a BARREL woody!

But good point, and I'd be happy to discuss it with you. If I only thought that you were an intellectually honest person.

Which I do NOT.

I rode my wheeler a few miles out the unplowed subdivision roads to plow a friend who lives in the back out from about 2 feet of days old powder.

Even with my plow full up I was still busting powder. I was like a tin can jumping to station with a wake and tail!

I spooked two moose about half way out and I was worried that they'd turn on back on me since this year's snow has them exhausted and grumpy, but I lucked out and they went off down the only side road.

As I got to my brother's I saw two more moose bedded down right in the road right in the cul d sac where the road ended. Less than a half block from my bro's.

I turned off, and plowed out his driveway and most of his cul d sac.

Then I tossed powder all of the way back home. It was overcast but not snowing.

The puppies hadn't sh!t in their enclosure and the hot grips worked rad.

Now we're gonna get er back to the high cube for storage.

So I'm drying out and making some coffee.

Alaskan spuds boiling, radio on.

Puppies snoring.

Company inbound.

What's YOUR life like azzhole?

I hope it's GREAT!

No sh!t.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-03-06   20:27:38 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: Mad Dog (#49)

What's YOUR life like azzhole?

I hope it's GREAT!

No sh!t.

If it was any better, it would probably be illegal.

Wood_Chopper  posted on  2012-03-06   20:41:35 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: Wood_Chopper (#52)

If it was any better, it would probably be illegal.

Ergo, it MUST be; eh woody?

LOL!

BZ!

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-03-06   20:57:28 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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