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Title: Another New Toy - 69 Camaro
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Published: Feb 29, 2012
Author: Me
Post Date: 2012-02-29 20:08:40 by We The People
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Views: 56450
Comments: 91

Somebody STOP ME!

1969 Camaro - not sure if it's a base coupe, RS, SS, Sport Coupe, etc. I'm hoping someone here will know something about it. It had, and comes with the original, numbers matching 307, but it currently has a monster 350 in it. It's been years since I drove a car as fast as this one.

All emblems are gone. I do know it's an X11 car, but that's just a trim package.

Wont know about the protecto plate till I get it home and look for it.

Whatever it is, it WILL BE an SS, even if just a clone.

I'll post pics when I get it home.

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#10. To: We The People (#0)

I not a camaro man but that's the nicest one they made. It looks better then most of the camaros I usually see in the rear view mirror of my mustang.

calcon  posted on  2012-03-01   7:43:13 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: calcon (#10)

I not a camaro man but that's the nicest one they made. It looks better then most of the camaros I usually see in the rear view mirror of my mustang.

LOL! What?!? That 6 cylinder hatchback?!?

We The People  posted on  2012-03-02   23:09:03 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: We The People (#21)

LOL! What?!? That 6 cylinder hatchback?!?

6's are for girls. I've got a fox body mustang with about 25K in mods. All my engine work was done by JBA racing in San Diego and that car is scary ass fast.

Love to take it to the shop and watch the mechanics face when they pop the hood. It's got one bad ass engine and sounds so sweet, I could just sat and listen to it purr for hours.

calcon  posted on  2012-03-02   23:51:53 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: calcon (#23)

6's are for girls. I've got a fox body mustang with about 25K in mods. All my engine work was done by JBA racing in San Diego and that car is scary ass fast.

Love to take it to the shop and watch the mechanics face when they pop the hood. It's got one bad ass engine and sounds so sweet, I could just sat and listen to it purr for hours.

Very nice! Post some pics if you will.

I'll get some photos of the motor today. Maybe even some video so you can hear it.

The interior on this car is trashed. Some of the window, door, rear fender and wheel well trim is missing. I've got some of it to put back on but not all.

I'm thinking blood red for this car. Or... should I go back original rallye green? What do you think?

We The People  posted on  2012-03-03   9:57:43 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: We The People (#26)

I'm thinking blood red for this car. Or... should I go back original rallye green? What do you think?

You gotta go with the blood red. I painted my stang candy apple red and it's so sweet no color fits a bad ass ride better then red.

I saw your comments about making the car an SS clone and I'd thought about making my fox a Fobra but decided in the end to make the car as plain as possible. Took off all the badges etc so it just looks like an average stang of the error. Thought i'd end up surprising some moronic tuner but then engine so sweet no ones ever tried to race me. Oh well, I'm way too old for that crap anyway.

I envy you man, I was looking at your picture and wishing I could get my hands on that baby. It's going to be sweet.

calcon  posted on  2012-03-03   13:38:09 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: calcon (#31)

I envy you man, I was looking at your picture and wishing I could get my hands on that baby.

Well, I wouldn't recommend envying me right now.

Aside from the metal that needs cut out and welded back in at the rear shock mounts, I need to do the 4 wheel disc brake conversion, electronic ignition, install some new suspension parts - front coils, rear leafs, ball joints, etc., a mechanical fuel pump, a new fuel tank & lines, (there is currently a fuel cell and electric fuel pump in the trunk) a new shifter, complete new interior, new doors, new paint, blast the undercarriage and paint, new glass, tires and wheels, a sound system and a new console with gauges.

And I'm sure there will be more that I haven't found yet. The engine was smoking a little.

I hate the 'just getting started' part of a project. I'm a bit overwhelmed right now, especially when I start totaling all this up. I haven't done a project like this since the 80's.

We The People  posted on  2012-03-04   11:56:36 ET  (5 images) Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: We The People (#41)

After viewing the pics I'm thinking we all should just schedule a desert party out here in Joshua Tree and dose that baby up with 3inch magnum rifled slugs.

.....just kidding.

I will say it's a bit uphill appearing with all that rust....and if the structural integrity looks like that in other areas you may consider switching from the LS-6 plan and dropping in a government motors chevy volt powertrain so she don't fold up in half when you gas her too much.

And better you than me be tackling the task and looking forward to an occassional pic posting showing the progress.

e_type_jag  posted on  2012-03-04   22:43:46 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: e_type_jag, sneakypete, Capitalist Eric (#52)

I will say it's a bit uphill appearing with all that rust

Well, I have a brother in law in the used car business, so good news is I can get all the mechanicals and body work and paint done dirt cheap. The guy is a real wheeler dealer, so I get bargains like a brand new stroker motor for my truck for $900, installation for $350. He has so much of this type of work done that they give him dirt cheap pricing. He's doing the same with a 70 Chevelle right now.

It's much better than trying to get it done with the weekend time I have to donate, so I'll just pay to have it done. I will post some progress photos though, and be proud like I did more than hand over cash! LOL!

The worst of the rust is shown in the pics I posted, so I guess it's not that bad. I also need a couple rear wheel wells and both doors. I'll do the brake conversion and suspension parts, new fuel tank and new shifter. Probably the interior too, with a kit.

What HEI would you guys recommend?

We The People  posted on  2012-03-05   5:19:26 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: We The People (#54)

What HEI would you guys recommend?

MSD 6A Module with either the MSD or Mallory HEI distributor.

BTW I'm using a Demon 750 on an Edelbrock Torker II on my LT-1 -- good small block setup (but I also run a bit of "gas" fogged in below that Demon :):)....)

e_type_jag  posted on  2012-03-05   15:58:35 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: e_type_jag, sneakypete (#56)

Thank you, sirs!

It's been a few years since I've done this, so I appreciate all your advice.

I was talking to the guy I bought this car from today. He was telling me him and his father built the engine using a recipe straight out of Hot Rod magazine. He thinks he still has the issue put away in a closet. He's going to see if he can find it and send it to me.

He said the engine dyno'd at just under 425 horse. Sweet!

Keith Black pistons, roller rockers, I can't remember all he told me, but I do remember it gave me about half a chubby! He said his father, a machinist, weighed and balanced each piston and rod.

I'm not sure if I believe him or not, but he told me he's personally had that car at 159 mph.

He also said the rear end is 2.73 gears. Does that sound right?

We The People  posted on  2012-03-05   18:59:33 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: We The People (#57) (Edited)

i'm seeing all this cross ram dual 4bbl, 6-71 blowers etc... stuff. expensive , quirky and hard on the gas pump

what do you have for a budget and what do you expect?

you might actually be pretty happy with what looks like a pretty cool ride but if you want to amp up .... well ... you did say you are married and that's not the best support group for building rocket cars usually.

one of mine is an in process 71 vega gt i had through college.

btw we had a minor garage fire a few years ago and the first question my wife called me was "did that stupid car burn?"....much to her chagrin, it did not.

every nut and wire replaced -entire body walnut blasted and stripped of sound goop sprayed on glop - cross and longitudinally braced with 4130 CM mig/tiged 1x4 inch rectangular stock bracing - fiberglass hood and fenders - roller rocker forged crank and rods 4 bolt lt-1 clone with 2.02 polished ported heads - competition cams 305 deg .501 lift shaft - runner matched torker 2 with the demon 750 and top gun fogger setup - 4 row radiator specialties al radiator with dual fans - 3" stainless routed exhaust with c/p mufflers - msd6a and mallory ignition setup - transmissions unlimited modified body th350 with a 2800 stall cvt with rad specialties trans cooler and a spiffy slap style b&m shifter- cut lincoln continental front coils up front with hotchkis components - narrowed mopar 3.73 ratio 8 3/8" locker with big honkin traction bars and monza front rear sways - aerospace components 4 piston billet clamps on all 4 corners with 8 and 10 inch bullit mustang 17 inch hoops with ventus 245 and 225 zrs.

should be ~ 2000 lbs dry (everything i don't need is stripped including windshield wipers, heater and a/c, bulky seats, metal hood, doors and fenders now glass, sound insulation etc with only additions being an 8 point c/m cage, electric window conversion and my spiffy zillion watt kenwood dvd/nav in dash setup) with conservative 425hp not on the fogged gas and actually be able to go around a corner or 2....fairly quickly.

i think i'll even post some progress pics here later this year as i'm nearing completion.

e_type_jag  posted on  2012-03-05   22:43:45 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#63. To: e_type_jag (#61) (Edited)

what do you have for a budget and what do you expect?

I'm fortunate enough to have the means to do whatever I want with this car.

What I really want is a car that even the wife can drive. (Damn! Did I really just type that?)

I guess I want it pretty much like it is, but nice and new and reliable again with just the few changes like the 4 wheel disc conversion, which came with the car, the hei, swap out that fuel cell for a gas tank so I can use the trunk, swap the 10 bolt rear for a 12 bolt with slightly higher gears, etc.

I did notice a bit of smoke too, so I may have to get into the engine, but not sure I want to change anything that doesn't need it. It has an electric fuel pump that looks to only go up to 5 psi. That's not enough fuel for this girl is it? With a 650 Holley? I'd like to do away with that too and go to a mechanical pump. Is there a mechanical pump that will go up to say 7 or 8 psi?

EDIT: I found this one at 7 psi, is that adequate?

http://www.summitracing.com/sear...ize/5-7L-350/?Ns=Rank|Asc

Or... this one at 8 psi?

www.summitracing.com/parts/NAL-12355612/

We The People  posted on  2012-03-06 06:55:16 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#64. To: e_type_jag (#61)

every nut and wire replaced -entire body walnut blasted and stripped of sound goop sprayed on glop - cross and longitudinally braced with 4130 CM mig/tiged 1x4 inch rectangular stock bracing - fiberglass hood and fenders - roller rocker forged crank and rods 4 bolt lt-1 clone with 2.02 polished ported heads - competition cams 305 deg .501 lift shaft - runner matched torker 2 with the demon 750 and top gun fogger setup - 4 row radiator specialties al radiator with dual fans - 3" stainless routed exhaust with c/p mufflers - msd6a and mallory ignition setup - transmissions unlimited modified body th350 with a 2800 stall cvt with rad specialties trans cooler and a spiffy slap style b&m shifter- cut lincoln continental front coils up front with hotchkis components - narrowed mopar 3.73 ratio 8 3/8" locker with big honkin traction bars and monza front rear sways - aerospace components 4 piston billet clamps on all 4 corners with 8 and 10 inch bullit mustang 17 inch hoops with ventus 245 and 225 zrs.

should be ~ 2000 lbs dry (everything i don't need is stripped including windshield wipers, heater and a/c, bulky seats, metal hood, doors and fenders now glass, sound insulation etc with only additions being an 8 point c/m cage, electric window conversion and my spiffy zillion watt kenwood dvd/nav in dash setup) with conservative 425hp not on the fogged gas and actually be able to go around a corner or 2....fairly quickly.

Damn! Now I understand that whole 'death to anyone who doesn't get outta my way' thing! LOL!

We The People  posted on  2012-03-06 07:11:13 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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