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Saboor reportedly walked out of the heavily-guarded ministry without interference, which suggests that his actions evoked widespread sympathy. This. IS. Huge. First, it reveals the Big Lie. These two, the LtCol and the Major were NOT just sitting at their deskes engaged in 'hearts&minds' coordination. They were joking about burning the 'word of god' to Afghans. And Second, there was no intrigue here as 'back of the head' implies like how do you shoot TWO (one a SpecOps) in the back of the head. EIGHT TIMES...that's a lot of noise in a building. " Saboor reportedly walked out of the heavily-guarded ministry without interference, which suggests that his actions evoked widespread sympathy." Was Saboor applauded as he walked out? As he got in his vehicle and drove away? With this event there maybe 5 people on both sides- green & blue -talking back and forth to each other.
That version of events is hard for me to believe. It would be for me as well, except as I've posted above, the Two shots, one to each, to the back of the head was always harder to accept. And the fact that Saboor did not slink away but was admired as he walked thru the building....
And of course the reaction by ISAF/NATO/USSA to immediately bring in ALL Liaisons with Afghan personnel speaks volumes. The Washington Post quoted two Afghan policemen at a Kabul checkpoint. "Afghans and the world’s Muslims should rise against the foreigners. We have no patience left," one said, while his partner added, "We both will attack the foreign military people." Again. Why would you burn a book? [A]fter 2014, the Afghans will do the bulk of the fighting but will still have advisers from abroad in combat with them. U.S. forces are still expected to supply air support, artillery, medical evacuation and combat logistics after 2014 because the Afghan army will have none of these support services ready before 2016 at the earliest. The U.S. role will shift, but it is critically important to understand that, in the shift to a mission mainly devoted to advising and supporting — whatever the terms used — our forces will still be fighting on the ground, before, during and after 2014. We'll be out by Xmas. Which means Iran will not have it's Eastern flank exposed.
Depending on who’s doing the counting, the ANA consists of 100,000 to 150,000 soldiers, but only 1 percent of their units can operate without direct NATO assistance, according to Army Lt. Gen. Curtis Scaparrotti, an officer with the U.S.-led International Security Assistance Force (ISAF), in a recent interview with Military.com. All we've done is create a ready made Army for the Taliban. Maybe we should start cooperating with the ISI now for some valuable info instead of trying to destroy it? And keeping the Pakistanis from taking Iranian gas....;} To ReCap: "Depending on who’s doing the counting, the ANA consists of 100,000 to 150,000 soldiers, but only 1 percent of their units can operate without direct NATO assistance, according to Army Lt. Gen. Curtis Scaparrotti, an officer with the U.S.-led International Security Assistance Force (ISAF), in a recent interview with Military.com. Scaparrotti appears to think it is somewhat redeeming that after $12 billion of U.S. investment in 2011 alone, 42 percent of the ANA units are capable of leading security operations “with advisers.” Thanks a lot — considering that after this week’s riots, NATO didn’t even deem its advisers safe enough to let them continue their work in the ministry buildings. ... As of this moment there is almost ZERO interaction between this MultiBillion Army and ISAF/NATO/USSA...;} Mullah Omar could give the order today and how many of that Army would fight under the White Taliban flag? After 11 years and this is our effort revealed? It's looking more and more like Saigon 1975.
Saboor reportedly walked out of the heavily-guarded ministry without interference, which suggests that his actions evoked widespread sympathy. interesting
You can't burn satans book (the koran) but you can burn gods book (the Bible).
As for Karzai himself, installed as president by the US-led invasion of 2001 and long derided as the "mayor of Kabul," he stands exposed as the tool of a hated foreign occupation, despised even by his own policemen. Don't you know that Palace is tense right now....;} The desecration of the Korans at Bagram flows inexorably from the reactionary character of the US-led occupation of Afghanistan—a war of aggression waged against the Afghan people in the face of widespread opposition to war in the American and European working class. Who had nothing to do with 9/11. Amazingly, the act of burning a book will be the death of the Afghan Occupation.
You might want to copyright that quote Jim.
We'll be out by Xmas. You're most likely right. They don't like the US timetable. Stupid to announce one, if you're going to quit just get the hell out. Bring the troops home where they can burn all the Korans, Bibles, flags, Canadian Tar Sands oil, or whatever they want.
Obama's watch stopped on 24 May 2008, but he's been too busy smoking crack to notice.
Feel free to take it as your own....8D
Burning any book is thoughtless. Unless it's Day After Tomorrow and you're going to die from cold....;} Even then, start with the Tax Code Section...8D Just leave it alone. Fahrenheit 451. Which, btw, gives the lie to the 'accidental' part of the story.
What more do you have on this battle? "France opens negotiations with Syria to recover its 18 agents Posted by seumasach on February 27, 2012 Thierry Meyssan 27th February, 2012 On 13 February 2012, Thierry Meyssan revealed on the first Russian television channel that Syria had captured a dozen French soldiers. Voltaire Network is now in a position to confirm that as of 26 February the number of French prisoners is 18 (eighteen).
If Paris admits that they were on a mission, they will be entitled to prisoner-of-war status and protected by the relative Geneva Convention; but if Paris denies having sent them, they will be considered as foreign civilians and judged in Syria for their crimes, which are punishable by the death penalty.
Can't do a sneak attack on Iran with Russia watching not 25 Klicks away....;} According to the site, Russia is now able to track and control sea and air movements of U.S. and Israel in the eastern Mediterranean, including the airspace of Cyprus and Greece. So that the USSA will be the Last to Know? Please.....;} " Israeli officials say if they decide to launch a pre-emptive attack on Iranian nuclear facilities, they will do so without the prior consent or knowledge of the US, according to an AP report citing leaked US intelligence. The message was conveyed by Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and Defense Minister Ehud Barak to a number of senior US officials visiting the country, the news agency said, citing a US intelligence source. "
And of course the And All Be All of this Bizarro World 12 year dance.... RPT-Saudi oil output nearing capacity limit | Reuters www.reuters.com/article/2...udi-idUSL6E8CB0QB20120111 Jan 11, 2012 – Repeats JAN 10 story, no change to text)* Saudi Arabia now pumping just under 10 mln bpd* On paper should be able to reach 12.5 mln bpd* ... The Saudis are at capacity. Expect Ghawar to do a Cantarell at any time now.
So... In exchange for the French POW's.... " In the secret war against Syria, France and its allies are responsible for a conflict that caused the death of at least 3,000 Syrian soldiers and 1,500 civilians, plus economic losses and the sabotage of infrastructure estimated at least $ 3 billion.
*ping* the above.
"The Afghan War shouldn’t be the world’s most complicated subject to deal with. After all, the message is clear enough. Eleven years in, if your forces are still burning Korans in a deeply religious Muslim country, it’s way too late and you should go. Instead, the U.S. command in Kabul and the administration back home have proceeded to tie themselves in a series of bizarre knots, issuing apologies, orders, and threats to no particular purpose as events escalated." "The only Afghans with access to that area are translators, Afghan officials said. And I still don't believe that Interior Ministry Story.... "The BBC's Orla Guerin in Kabul says EIGHT shots were reported inside the building, which should be one of the safest in the capital, and that any Afghan who carried out the attack would have had the highest clearance.... And then the wo/man calmly walked out the front door, got in a car, and drove away, telephoning the Taliban to report FOUR men killed....;}
And here's some news: From 1978...note how Afghan Movements perfectly reflect US Domestic ones....;} "Reform and reaction: AD 1978-1979 Daud's government is overthrown (and he and most of his family killed) by a lef-wing faction within the army. When the coup is complete, the officers hand over control to the nation's two leftist political parties - Khalq (the People's party) and Parcham (the Banner party). The two are for once working in harmony, though only briefly. Once in government, the two Khalq leaders seize power. Nur Mohammad Taraki becomes president and prime minister, with Hafizullah Amin as one of two deputy prime ministers. The Parcham leader, Babrak Karmal, is the other deputy prime minister - but he is soon despatched abroad as ambassador to Prague. Taraki and Amin press ahead with a rapid programme of reform along communist lines. Equal rights for women are introduced, land is redistributed - all against the advice of Moscow, which favours a more cautious approach for fear of a Muslim backlash. Meanwhile the leaders of the Parcham party are persecuted and in several cases killed. Many, including Babrak Karmal, take refuge in Russia. The Kremlin is soon proved right. Read more: www.historyworld.net/wrld...toryid=ad09#ixzz1nmpepQBs
Noting here how British Endeavors are ALWAYS presented as Victories, even as it's Empire is crumbling..... sound familiar? " In November 1878 three British armies push through the mountain passes into Afghanistan. They take Jalalabad and Kandahar by the end of the year, and soon seem to have achieved everything they might wish for. A very advantageous treaty is agreed in May 1879 with Yakub Khan (the son of Sher Ali, who has died in February). Under the treaty Yakub Khan accepts a permanent British embassy in Kabul. Moreover Afghanistan's foreign affairs are from now on to be conducted by the British. But events soon prove that such a privilege can be dangerous in Afghanistan. In September the British envoy to Kabul and his entire staff and escort are massacred. This disaster brings an immediate escalation of British military activity in Afghanistan, but to little political advantage. Read more: www.historyworld.net/wrld...toryid=ad09#ixzz1nmqbdc5n
And Karzai's chances of getting out of the Afghans alive get worse by the day: "In March 1979 a resistance group declares a jihad, or holy war, against the godless regime in Kabul. In the same month more than 100 Soviet citizens living in Herat are seized and killed. Meanwhile the two Khalq leaders are themselves at loggerheads. In September 1979 the president, Taraqi, attempts to assassinate his prime minister, Amin. Instead, within two days, Taraqi is in the hands of Amin supporters. Three weeks later he dies - 'of a serious illness', according to the official announcement. Read more: www.historyworld.net/wrld...toryid=ad09#ixzz1nmrOhyDX
And what was happening in Iran at this time, you ask? Iranian Revolution novaonline.nvcc.edu/eli/evans/his135/Events/Iran79.htmCached - Similar 31 March 1979, referendum approved the establishment of an Islamic ... 4 November 1979, Iranian militants seized the U.S. embassy in Teheran and held ... So by the 4th of November, right smack dab in the middle of POTUS Election, Saigon 1975 in Kabul.
They did not want to. Look thru the entire 'adventure'. McCain, only a lil while ago again stated the 'mission' was open ended. You don't need Top Secret Intel to figure DC out....;} CYA is Always the GoTo option.....8D
""Now we are zooming the 5th floor of reactor 3, where the fuel storage pool is. We must be able to see the top of the fuel storage pool at the very place. There “must” be the fuel storage pool in the center of the screen. However, we can not see even a part of the pool from the sky." Example of the finest CYA as only the Japanese know how. Proclaiming that Fukushima is now in 'cold shutdown' and 'under control' there is therefore no need to prevent overflights. The Major Media have thus been doing just that. And so discover that the SFP of Reactor #3, the MOX reprocessed stuff is no longer there....
Jim, I'm reading; keep posting. Thanx...
Even the pilgrims are using nuke power now. Move on up to the 20th century at least, if you can't make it all the way to the 21st. Those Iranians are sure SLOW at building those plants. What's the hold up?
Obama's watch stopped on 24 May 2008, but he's been too busy smoking crack to notice.
STUXNET. The problem for Israel is that the Iranians are THE past masters at Reverse Engineering....;} The next nuke will be better and cost less. Just like the next Iranian 'Sunburn, sub, Remote Stealth, Train, Car, Subway, City Design, will be.....8D Which is why Israel hates them. An Alt Society is Anathema to Israelis....bad example to their slaves.
• Page Down • Bottom/Latest #1. To: Brian S (#0) . So if Hague, Hammond and Cameron love Israel so much let them and the regime’s other admirers don uniform and flak-jacket and go play battleships in the Gulf’s “bathtub” themselves. Who in their right mind would volunteer to be that trio’s cannon-fodder? Note the ONLY place you find Israeli 'soldiers' is guarding their ghettoes? Someone needs to make these points clear. And I agree, it's as if they want to be hated, the stuff that comes out of their 1% mouths. O they're very clear to the 10% of the Bottom 99. The Intelligentsia of the Bottom 99. The 80% in the Middle ALWAYS go with the flow. See: At height of Revolutionary Resistance only 10%, including women, children, were fighting the Brits, for details....;} "Whether the wars in the Middle East are really about oil, central banking control, or military-industrial profits seems irrelevant to the general public who have been only conditioned to believe in simple concepts like good versus evil. Obviously, everyone naturally views their side as good. Despite extraordinary evidence of our side's grotesque misdeeds, making the mental leap that we're the worst of the bad guys seems to be too big a gap to close for most people." All you have to do is cleanse the Trolls and Stand/Hold your ground....8D
alt-market.com/articles/5...stify-more-preemptive-war 02:23 AM EDT on March 1st, 2012 | 41 comments *Listen* Top US Nuclear Official: Melted core penetrates concrete at 2 inches per hour — No doubt containment is lost during blackout — Mark I worst of all — Manual tells you everything except how to stop it (AUDIO) 01:41 AM EDT on March 1st, 2012 | 14 comments WSJ Reporter: ‘Eerily quiet’ at Fukushima given massive amount to be done — What really hit me is how much radiation levels vary around plant (VIDEO)
In the most recent GOP debate, a resolved Ron Paul received groans and boos from the crowd for attempting to explain the "just war" principle of using military for defense only when referring to Iran. He then received an awkward silence when he explained that war should only be acceptable if the people's representatives vote for it per the Constitution. Similarly, he heard crickets with his historical perspective of the USSR's thousands of proven nuclear warheads pointed at America to show what little threat Iran actually poses. Finally, he tried to explain that war is a bad idea economically; that we simply can't afford it. Nothing seemed to sway much of the audience. They only see good and evil. And they've been told Iran and Syria are evil. Therefore, the evil doers must be dealt with through death and destruction like all the other GOP candidates advocate. By the way, the Obama Administration supports the exact same war mongering as is obvious by the State Department's rhetoric and actions outlined above.
Somehow the masses, who are the only ones who can stop the bloodshed, continue to buy the propaganda and rubber stamp the murderous aggressive wars. The gullibility of the masses has surpassed embarrassing levels, and unless there is a rapid awakening, we are surely headed for blood....;} This seems to happen with humans also: Paul Buchheit, from DePaul University, revealed, “From 1980 to 2006 the richest 1% of America tripled their after-tax percentage of our nation’s total income, while the bottom 90% have seen their share drop over 20%.” Robert Freeman added, “Between 2002 and 2006, it was even worse: an astounding three-quarters of all the economy’s growth was captured by the top 1%.” This sounds exactly like the kind of hierarchical behavior observed in the animal kingdom when social species get stressed. If there is not enough to go around, resources that are available are concentrated in the hands of those at the top of the pyramid, marginalizing those at the bottom of the pyramid. If total resources are inadequate, population at the bottom of the pyramid is reduced, leaving those at the top untouched. In this post, I discuss some of the issues raised by Dilworth and the parallels I see with humans. I also add a perspective of hope.... ourfiniteworld.com/2012/0...at-went-wrong/#more-15362 A perspective of hope was hopeless. She thinks Religion and just 'moving on' will solve the Top 1% Psychos....;} Go ahead Israel. Fuck Up.. Quick...;}
CHUCK CASTO [Deputy Regional Administrator]: [...] if we end up with a molten core and then you talk about the time for the concrete to disassociate, you know, that NUREG says it's a couple of inches an hour, you know. And, of course, that Mark 1 containment is the worst one of all the containments we have, and it's literally, you know, this NUREG tells you that in a station blackout you're going to lose containment. There's no doubt about it. # Kevin Kevin March 1, 2012 at 3:19 am Log in to Reply Only about 8 feet of concrete to eat through at 2 inches an hour, I would imagine once it hits earth it travels much more rapidly. love you short quips though, you gotta great sense of humour Report Comment * Alice Alice March 1, 2012 at 4:09 am Log in to Reply I swear, Kevin, there have been days when I don't know whether to laugh or cry. All the right ingredients for a blockbuster disaster movie but all too real. We're going over an abyss. Report Comment
Here's whose riding the rails to Hell, A K. Not the Peace loving Gays....and their proponents...;} " Like a greasy loan shark working for a hardboiled mob cartel, World Bank’s M.O. is to lend large capital packages (made with money or credit created out of thin air) which the target country and its government obviously cannot afford to pay back. These loans often stipulate that the country relinquish control of its natural resources, the true wealth of the nation, over to international corporate bodies for “management”. Through this process, World Bank removes competition from a market and hands designated companies (globalist front-companies) the keys to the kingdom. ... The (Partial)List of Hell Goers, A K... " -Dr Ismali Serageldin (Commission Chair), Vice President, World Bank, and Chair of Global Water Partnership -Margaret Catley-Carlson, President, Population Council -Gordon Conway, President, The Rockefeller Foundation -Mohamed T. El-Ashry, Chair and CEO of the Global Environment Facility -Howard Hjort, former Deputy Director, FAO -Enriquo Iglesias, President, Inter-American Development Bank -Yolanda Kababadse, President, World Conservation Union -Jessica Mathews, President, Carnegie Endowment for International Peace, USA -Robert S. McNamara, Co-Chair, Global Coalition for Africa -Maurice Strong, Chair, Earth Council, member of Commission on Global Governance, and a chief adviser in charge of the UN reform process -Wilfred Thalwitz, former Senior VP, World Bank -Jerome Mondo, Chair of the Supervisory Board, Suez Lyonnaise des Eaux In March of 2000, the forum made the following statement: “Water is an economic good and its economic value should be recognized in the allocation of scarce water resources to competing uses. While this should not prevent people from meeting their basic needs for water services at affordable prices, the price for water must be set at a level that encourages conservation and wise use...”
Print France’s secret war against the Syrian people Voltaire Network | 22 February 2012 www.voltairenet.org/France-s-secret-war-against-the français عربي Deutsch During the assault on the rebel stronghold in the Homs district of Bab Amr, the Syrian army took more than 1,500 prisoners, mostly foreigners. Of these, a dozen French nationals requested the status of prisoner of war, refusing to give their identity, rank and unit of assignment. One of them is a Colonel working for the DGSE transmission service.
Chief Judge Richard Cebull, a George W. Bush appointee to the federal district court in Montana, admitted yesterday to sending a racist email forward comparing President Obama’s conception to sex with a dog: “A little boy said to his mother; ‘Mommy, how come I’m black and you’re white?’” the email joke reads. “His mother replied, ‘Don’t even go there Barack! From what I can remember about that party, you’re lucky you don’t bark!’” [...] Cebull said his brother initially sent him the email, which he forwarded to six of his “old buddies” and acquaintances. He admitted that he read the email and intended to send it to his friends. “The only reason I can explain it to you is I am not a fan of our president, but this goes beyond not being a fan,” Cebull said. “I didn’t send it as racist, although that’s what it is. I sent it out because it’s anti-Obama.“
A 25-point gap now separates supporters and opponents of marriage equality in California, with 59 percent of residents backing same-sex marriage and just 34 percent opposing it, a new Field survey finds. This represents “the largest margin of support for the issue in the three-plus decades the Field Poll has been asking the question”
This will throw A K into a tizzy.
These people are clueless.....they are your leaders.....8D "Which route will Israel choose? It will go over Syria. There would be hell to pay if Israel went over Turkey or Jordan. If the Saudis “permitted” it, the Iranians would retaliate by assassinating Saudis all over the world. So it will be Syria. This is especially true as the country is in chaos today. Will Syria attempt to shoot down Israeli aircraft flying over its territory? Yes, it has surface-to-air capability and it also has MiG-23 and MiG-27 fighters. The Israelis will escort their bombers over Syria with their F16s. These fighters will wipe out anything that Syria puts up. The ground-based defenses are old, and no doubt, poorly manned these days. 1) Russia is right next to it's Syrian Counterparts with these S-300 Systems. 1a)Russia from it's base in Tartarus, plus contacts in the Pentagon/WH will know the instant Israel Launches. 2)Syria is not in trouble from it's 'war with hillary's State Dept Mercs. Being encircled and rounded up as I type. 3) Most importantly of All, Iran will KNOW that Israel is coming. From Over a 1000 miles away. 3a)They will be ready....;} 4) Note how the Above casually dismiss Iraq Airspace as a hindrance? That going over Jordan will have 'more hell to pay' than going over Iraq? Like the Tsar of Russia July 1914...just clueless.
"As of today, Israel “officially” has only thirty of these bunker bombs. It has a total of 100 F15 attack bombers, so it needs more bombs to fully utilize their strike capability. Look for a sign on this. If the US agrees to supply more bombs, the timing is close"...8D The LULZ here is that somehow the USSA thinks these diplomatic niceties of looking somewhere, aNywhere but at Israel when it attacks will absolve it of any War making v Iran. Iran will immediately attack the USSA and it's infrastructure.
THIS is when you get the ' no one could've predicted this' spontaneous street uprisings in Amerika... " Unbelievable Stress of Making "Only" $200,000 After Taxes People who have nothing to eat, no job, and are about to be tossed out of their homes in foreclosure, really do not know what stress is. To fully appreciate stress, please consider the sorry "plights" of Andrew Schiff, marketing director for Euro Pacific Capital, Daniel Arbeeny, a Wall Street headhunter, and hedge-fund manager Richard Scheiner.... “People who don’t have money don’t understand the stress,” said Alan Dlugash, a partner at accounting firm Marks Paneth & Shron LLP in New York who specializes in financial planning for the wealthy. “Could you imagine what it’s like to say I got three kids in private school, I have to think about pulling them out? How do you do that?” Wall Street’s cash bonus pool fell by 14 percent last year to $19.7 billion, the lowest since 2008, according to projections by New York state Comptroller Thomas DiNapoli. “It’s a disaster,” said Ilana Weinstein, chief executive officer of New York-based search firm IDW Group LLC. LMFAO 8D
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Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/LatestThe two US officers mocked the Koran and argued with an Afghan official, identified as Abdul Saboor, 25. Saboor then shot eight rounds at them, killing both.
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The two US officers mocked the Koran and argued with an Afghan official, identified as Abdul Saboor, 25. Saboor then shot eight rounds at them, killing both.
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Considering what we now know about the true strength of the Afghan National Army (ANA), the prospects for a clean cut appear slimmer everyday.
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The two US officers mocked the Koran and argued with an Afghan official, identified as Abdul Saboor, 25. Saboor then shot eight rounds at them, killing both.
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interesting
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Amazingly, the act of burning a book will be the death of the Afghan Occupation.
#30. To: mcgowanjm, *Neo-Lib Chickenhawk Wars* (#24)
2014.
"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul
#31. To: Fred Mertz (#29)
You might want to copyright that quote Jim.
#32. To: A K A Stone (#27)
You can't burn satans book (the koran) but you can burn gods book (the Bible).
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Syria: The Battle of Homs was won and reported to President Bashar al-Assad that it was over on Thursday, 23 February, at 1900 hours.
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Battle of Syria
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"In March 1979 a resistance group declares a jihad, or holy war, against the godless regime in Kabul. In the same month more than 100 Soviet citizens living in Herat are seized and killed.
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They don't like the US timetable. Stupid to announce one
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the SFP of Reactor #3, the MOX reprocessed stuff is no longer there....
"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul
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Those Iranians are sure SLOW at building those plants. What's the hold up?
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This represents “the largest margin of support for the issue in the three-plus decades the Field Poll has been asking the question”
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