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#342. To: A K A Stone (#0) (Edited)

www.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/me...j.irq.war.main/index.html

Iraqwar.ru itself is history by Dom on 20.10.2004 [19:26 ] As time goes by I am more convinced that Iraqwar.ru was one of the unique things I ever experienced in life. I have yet to see anything like it. This site comes closest.

A lot of us were on Iraqwar every day from long before the war until the day it conked out. Too bad we can't look it up now and again. But then again, maybe life's too short for looking back. Once again. the living humans outlast their own works.

I don't reckon there's much in this neutron bomb story. As for the Ramsaj reports ceasing, that was not a surprise. They were too good. They were bound to be stopped sooner or later.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-04   14:17:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#343. To: redleghunter (#341)

You have clearly formed your lens of Iraq from news websites.

Thanx for adding nothing to this information....;}

'news websites'....LMGFAO....where does your lens form?

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-04   14:19:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#344. To: redleghunter (#341)

Saddam admitted he left plans for a scorched earth policy to leave the coalition with a mess....

Any 'news site' whatsoever will do just fine.

Waiting not at all for you to come up with one....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-04   14:20:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#345. To: redleghunter (#341)

Again bullshite.

They did not even destroy one bridge.

You have clearly formed your lens of Iraq from news websites. Saddam admitted he left plans for a scorched earth policy to leave the coalition with a mess ...

So why was not. ONE. SINGLE. BRIDGE. destroyed.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-04   14:21:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#346. To: redleghunter (#341)

so the soon to be insurgency (as planned waiting in the wings) would gain popular support. If I were to put his words into English it would be something like this: "You wanted Iraq, here it is now have a nice day."

So why is EVERY ministry burned to the ground....

except....

wait for it....

the OIL Ministry building....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-04   14:22:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#347. To: All (#342)

As for the Ramsaj reports ceasing, that was not a surprise. They were too good. They were bound to be stopped sooner or later.

www.iraq-war.ru/article/27537

If theres one thing Russia is good for, its outing US BS. But then, the original articles/exposures are the work of American veterans.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-04   14:25:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#348. To: mcgowanjm (#344)

Any 'news site' whatsoever will do just fine.

Waiting not at all for you to come up with one....;}

If something is not reported press does it make it untrue?

Heal me, O Lord, and I shall be healed; Save me, and I shall be saved, For You are my praise. Jeremiah 17:14

redleghunter  posted on  2012-04-04   14:39:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#349. To: mcgowanjm (#345)

So why was not. ONE. SINGLE. BRIDGE. destroyed.

Have you read Cobra II. The answer is there.

Heal me, O Lord, and I shall be healed; Save me, and I shall be saved, For You are my praise. Jeremiah 17:14

redleghunter  posted on  2012-04-04   14:41:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#350. To: mcgowanjm (#346)

except....

wait for it....

the OIL Ministry building....;}

There were three oil ministry buildings...which one are you referring to? The Oil ministry had their own state security to fend off looters.

Heal me, O Lord, and I shall be healed; Save me, and I shall be saved, For You are my praise. Jeremiah 17:14

redleghunter  posted on  2012-04-04   14:44:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#351. To: A K A Stone (#0)

#1. To: Robin (#0)

Private First Class Lynch & the 3/7 Cavalry & the Battle of Baghdad Airport April 3-8, 2003

Writing on April 13 for the Danger Room blog at Wired, Hambling says that from the description al-Rawi gives in the Al Jazeera interview of a series of explosions that killed the occupants of buildings without destroying the structures, “Interestingly, there is a weapon in the U.S. arsenal designed to do exactly that. ... The AGM-114N.”

Hambling continues, “On May 15th, 2003, just a few weeks after the action at Baghdad airport, Donald Rumsfeld praised the new weapon. ... Although officially described as ‘metal augmented’ or even ‘hyperbaric,’ the new warhead is not distinguishable from thermobaric weapons which produce the same sort of enhanced blast with a lower overpressure and longer duration for more destructive effects. Like many thermobarics, the AGM-114N used finely powdered aluminum. The military are generally quiet about thermobarics because they have received such bad press. Human Rights Watch criticized them because they ‘kill and injure in a particularly brutal manner over a wide area.’ “

mcgowanjm posted on 2012-04-04 18:58:32 ET Reply Trace Private Reply Edit #2. To: All (#1)

david bloom 3/7 cavalry

The Rescue of Private First Class Lynch

On the evening of 1 April 2003, SOF, supported by marines, assaulted the hospital in which Private Jessica Lynch was being treated.

Although there have been news stories subsequently suggesting that the assault was unnecessary since Iraqi troops had left the day before, one fact is clear--the SOF troops brought Lynch out.

Her capture, her captivity, even her return home stimulated speculation and enormous media attention

Staff Sergeant Joe Todd,

.Lieutenant Colonel Stephen Twitty, commander of TF 3-15 IN, knew Bloom better than any other soldier in the task force. They had first met 12 years earlier when Bloom, as a young up-and-coming journalist, covered the 24th Infantry Division during Operation DESERT STORM. Twitty was then a captain, serving as aide de camp for then-Major General Barry McCaffrey, commander of the 24th Infantry Division.211

...;}

mcgowanjm posted on 2012-04-04

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-04   19:00:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#352. To: redleghunter (#350)

There were three oil ministry buildings.

Show me.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-04   19:01:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#353. To: redleghunter (#350)

The Oil ministry had their own state security to fend off looters.

Show me this as well.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-04   19:02:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#354. To: redleghunter, All (#348)

Any 'news site' whatsoever will do just fine.

Waiting not at all for you to come up with one....;}

If something is not reported press does it make it untrue?

STILL no sources for anything you say.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-04   19:03:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#355. To: redleghunter (#349)

Have you read Cobra II. The answer is there.

RU Serious?

You're gonna give me riddles?

BUWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA 8D

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-04   19:04:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#356. To: All (#342)

As for the Ramsaj reports ceasing, that was not a surprise. They were too good. They were bound to be stopped sooner or later.

In an interview published by the Crawford, Texas, Lone Star Iconoclast (lonestaricon.com), May says, “The biggest story of the war became a non-event when the truth of the matter was that it was simply too bloody an event to report.

“The bogus rescue of Private Lynch was merely a distraction from the truth,” said May. “And the staged photo-op of the pulling down of Saddam Hussein’s statue was nothing more than a way to cement into people’s minds that it was an easy victory.”

Congressional hearings on April 24 heard testimony on “the histories of Pfc. Jessica D. Lynch and Cpl. Pat Tillman ... as egregious examples of officials’ twisting the truth for public relations in wartime.” (“Government Challenged on Lynch and Tillman,” New York Times, April 24)

Captain May says, “I think the Battle of Baghdad was emblematic of the whole misadventure in the Middle East. There is nothing that I thought then that I don’t think now has been validated by time. The American public still doesn’t know that there was a Battle of Baghdad because the media-military apparatus constructed the Private Jessica Lynch mess to hold attention.”

May continues: “The best evidence that I have from international sources, scientific sources, is that our position was becoming untenable at the Baghdad airport and we used a neutron warhead, at least one. That is the big secret of Baghdad airport.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-04   19:06:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#357. To: A K A Stone (#0)

April 5, 2003

Pat Tillman's first mission was securing the release of Jessica Lynch.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-05   10:41:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#358. To: All (#320) (Edited)

APRIL 5 This Day in History

April 5, 2003

Three hours later, the city shook from more multiple explosions, and antiaircraft fire shot into the sky.

American armored divisions launched the assault on the airport, 12 miles from the center of the Iraqi capital, as U.S.-led coalition troops advanced on the city.

CM: I had just come back from teaching a martial arts class on Friday, April 4, 2003. That would have been the morning of April 5 in Baghdad. Immediately, what I saw on CNN, about 9 p.m. Central time, was that Baghdad had been surrounded. We had dedicated the military forces to enveloping and making it succumb piece-by-piece, maybe sending in the 101st Airborne.

Then, all of a sudden, there was a report of explosions and CNN started to act like they were all rattled and didn’t know it was coming. Given that I was a prior service and intelligence public affairs officer, I knew very well that meant unexpected contact. Pretty soon, they were saying there were huge explosions from the airport, and the next thing you know, they’re casting over to imbed Walter Rogers from CNN. As he’s broadcasting from Baghdad Airport, you can hear artillery hitting around his Humvee and you can hear small arms fire hitting it: a distinct ping, ping, ping. That pretty much told me they were getting fired up bad.

That was when it was still pre-dawn in Baghdad. By dawn, Lt. Col. Terry Ferrell, the 3/7 Cavalry Group commander appeared on TV during CNN evening coverage and he broke down into tears when he trying to say everything was okay at Baghdad Airport. That made it clear to me that the 3/7, the scout unit, the cavalry squadron that attended the 3rd Infantry Division, the U.S. Army division that had surrounded Baghdad, had wound up in a close fight in the Baghdad Airport. That’s what I picked up at the time.

By the next day, CNN was saying there was substantial contradiction in facts from various media reports. Arab media were putting out 200 U.S. dead at the airport. Russian Intel put out that dozens were dead and a real fight had developed. U.S. media were putting out that Jessica Lynch had been rescued.

JA: How do you account for foreign media reporting about a bloody battle and U.S. media being silent about the airport while highlighting the rescue of Jessica Lynch?

CM: To me, at this point, it was a done deal. The Battle of Baghdad was essentially blocked out from April 5 all the way through April 8. On April 9, you had the pull-down of the Saddam statue which represents a pretty efficient ending of the Battle of Baghdad. But, it really was a propaganda ending. The pull-down was a staged event and I’ve heard that the few Iraqis there were not even Iraqis.

JA: Why have you taken such passion about the Battle of Baghdad?

Stranger than fiction Order Now

CM: The propaganda cover-up of the Battle of Baghdad, what we call BOBCUP (Battle of Baghdad Cover-up) was so conspicuously against the United States principles of information, which is what we follow in the Department of Defense Public Affairs operations, was so egregiously out of line, it was then that I self-mobilized my mission of conscience because, basically, it was apparent to me at that point, that we were under dictatorship. Suppressing the events of an entire battle and keeping it suppressed long after the battle was over … you know, you could have said, "Well, we didn’t want to tell the Iraqis where our troops were," or something else. But, you can’t say that months and months and months and years after the event.

Baghdad was the beginning.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-05   10:49:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#359. To: mcgowanjm (#354)

STILL no sources for anything you say.

I am a source. Three tours there in the thick of it and at a higher headquarters.

I was informed that your special "wire" thread is like a padded room for you to play in. I won't disturb your silence.

Heal me, O Lord, and I shall be healed; Save me, and I shall be saved, For You are my praise. Jeremiah 17:14

redleghunter  posted on  2012-04-05   14:22:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#360. To: mcgowanjm (#358)

JA: How do you account for foreign media reporting about a bloody battle and U.S. media being silent about the airport while highlighting the rescue of Jessica Lynch?

Of course there was a fierce fight for BIAP. Saddam's hunting lodge and palace are on the same compound. Hate to break this to you...The Battle of Baghdad was on the US News. Check out some of Ollie North's reports. The embeds did a good job. You do realize seizing Baghad happened 4 months ahead of schedule. And Jessica Lynch was rescued on 1 April not 4 or 5 April. 3ID and 101st were moving so fast and busting up what remained of the Iraqi disruption zones, one unit ran out of ammo, picked up Iraqi weapons and started fighting.

Heal me, O Lord, and I shall be healed; Save me, and I shall be saved, For You are my praise. Jeremiah 17:14

redleghunter  posted on  2012-04-05   14:45:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#361. To: mcgowanjm (#357)

Pat Tillman's first mission was securing the release of Jessica Lynch.

That's goofy.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-04-05   18:04:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#362. To: redleghunter (#359) (Edited)

I was informed that your special "wire" thread is like a padded room for you to play in. I won't disturb your silence.

You got balls, you'll give me a source on anything.

You're innuendo bullshit is disinfo.

An ad hominem attack.

Your say so makes you a hero. good luck on that one....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-05   20:38:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#363. To: redleghunter (#359)

I am a source.

NUWAHAHAHAHAHAHA 8D

Yeah. Me too.

you got backing from your Zio fundy 1% ers. And that's all you got.

Good luck with that....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-05   20:39:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#364. To: redleghunter, All (#359)

Three tours there in the thick of it and at a higher headquarters.

Tell me about the Battle of Baghdad and the 3/7 Cavalry of the Third Infantry Division. April 5 2003.

And why that M1 Abrams deliberately fired into the Palestine Hotel.

The Invasion of Iraq. Then you can tell me why we did this.

you Zio Fundy's never disappoint.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-05   20:42:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#365. To: All (#364)

And while I'mm waiting for sdources from my padded cell....

LMFAO....8D

A little history:

Think back now the "crazy" claim by the Iraqi Information Minister, whom our media labeled a ridiculous "Baghdad Bob." On April 5, 2003, he made the claim from Baghdad that there was a fierce fight going on between US and Iraqi forces at the Baghdad International Airport and that the Iraqis were inflicting heavy casualties on our soldiers and Marines. That's about the last thing you will remember about the battle, because that's when Bush told the media to pull the plug on the truth and start lying. Within hours the media began to feed us a story about! Private Jessica Lynch as a distraction, and stopped reporting the US attempt to take Baghdad, clearly the biggest story of the war. They didn't return the cameras to Baghdad until April 9, after the fighting was over, when they broadcast the US Army pulling down the statue of Saddam Hussein.

The biggest story of the war became a non-event when the truth of the matter is that it was simply too bloody an event to report. If we had known that things were getting tough, we might have had second thoughts - and the Bush media is not going to let us think for ourselves. They haven't cared about the Constitution or journalistic ethics from the beginning; what they have cared about is boosting the war for their big bosses and Bush, public be damned!

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-05   20:43:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#366. To: A K A Stone, All (#361) (Edited)

That's goofy.

Worse. Goofy and true.

Tell me you don't believe it....;}

Just straight up. No bullshite.

A K A Stone doesn't beleive that Tillman's fiirst mission in 2003 was securing the release of Jessica Lynch....

waiting in hopeful anticipation....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-05   20:45:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#367. To: A K A Stone, All (#366)

waiting in hopeful anticipation....;}

still waiting...

Just straight up. No bullshite.

A K A Stone doesn't believe that Tillman's fiirst mission in 2003 was securing the release of Jessica Lynch....

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-05   21:04:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#368. To: redleghunter (#360)

The Battle of Baghdad was on the US News.

Oliver North of Iran Contra infamy?

LMFAO

might as well ask cheney/rummy/petraeus/frank, eh?

North is a flunky...;}

Someone else.

And I was watching April3-8 2003.

Told my family that the toppling of Saddam's statue with Chalabi's goonsas props was a fake.

From Day 1.....Give me a source. URL's and all that...

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-05   21:09:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#369. To: redleghunter (#360)

You do realize seizing Baghad happened 4 months ahead of schedule.

I realize that Venik/Ramzaj and the Russian GRU gave me/the world real time data.

And that the USSA MEdia/Pentagon put out nothing but smoke.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-05   21:12:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#370. To: redleghunter (#360)

And Jessica Lynch was rescued on 1 April not 4 or 5 April. 3ID and 101st were moving so fast and busting up what remained of the Iraqi disruption zones, one unit ran out of ammo, picked up Iraqi weapons and started fighting.

Source any of that.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-05   21:12:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#371. To: A K A Stone (#0)

#139. To: nolu chan (#138)

You continue to try to ignore 600 years of judicial precedent.

Now why did you happen to pick 600 years ago and then post 1942 and 1871 US Verdicts?

That approx 600 years ago was the start of American genocide by the conquering Europeans, still honoring same today in the US?

No. That's not it.

That there is Still to this day no DC Memorial to the Slavery that built Congress and the White House?

Not that either.

Must be the Magna Carta. The Beginning of Habeus Corpus that the USSA HAS overthrown.

"You continue to try to ignore 600 years of judicial precedent."

When every attempt to peaceably overthrow the yoke that the Top 400 continue to try to throw over the head of ALL the Bottom 99%.

When the Treason of December 14, 2000 (AND every POTUS that has opposed the Central Bank has been shot annd shot at),

AND we get the Treason of 9/11 months after...

which then hurls us into a STATE OF EMERGENCY renewed EVERY year by the sitting POTUS....

the Rule of Law is the Rule of Kleptocracy. A Plutarchy.

And pretending the Bottom 99% have some say, when the POTUS has claimed and PERFORMED the right to kill any American at any time for any reason is to be part of the problem.

" Generally, the term is said to be the notion that America has a unique historic mission, values and ideals, that are either endowed by God or enshrined in the Constitution that make it exceptional in the world. Holy f**k, this is shaping up to be one long, miserable campaign. If you want to know why there is absolutely no hope that America will be able to change course before we manage to destroy ourselves, look no further than this happy horseshit. It was this dumbass idea that somehow America is exceptional, and therefore not bound by the limitations that bog down other mere mortal nations, that was a huge factor in getting us into such a huge f**king mess in the first place. This bulls**t all started with Ronald Reagan, of course. Jimmy Carter tried in his own bumbling and inept manner to warn Americans that there were limits not only to our military power but to the energy resources that fueled our very way of life. During the 1980 presidential campaign, Reagan and his minions took Carter's warnings and won big by beating him over the head with them. Then Reagan won re-election by using the same American exceptionalism club to wallop Walter Mondale..."

And I KNEW from DAY 1 of Reagan's Election that Democracy was dead in the US. And have been fighting the evil fu cks every day since.

35 years....that's about how long successful guerrilla wars take to prosecute successfully.

Almost there......;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-06   8:55:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#372. To: All (#371)

#361. To: mcgowanjm (#357)

Pat Tillman's first mission was securing the release of Jessica Lynch.

That's goofy.

A K A Stone posted on 2012-04-05 18:04:24 ET Reply Trace Private Reply #362. To: redleghunter (#359) (Edited)

I was informed that your special "wire" thread is like a padded room for you to play in. I won't disturb your silence.

You got balls, you'll give me a source on anything.

You're innuendo bullshit is disinfo.

An ad hominem attack.

Your say so makes you a hero. good luck on that one....;}

Waiting on sources, replies....;}

But not much longer....;}

Padded Cell. You'll think goofy padded cell...LMFAO...Morning VietNam!!!!

I do love the smell of napalm in the morning.....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-06   8:58:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#373. To: mcgowanjm (#358)

CM: The propaganda cover-up of the Battle of Baghdad, what we call BOBCUP (Battle of Baghdad Cover-up) was so conspicuously against the United States principles of information...

Thanks Jim. I hate to ask - who is CM?

Did you read about the Arkansas football coach Petrino? What a stud!

Fred Mertz  posted on  2012-04-06   9:11:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#374. To: mcgowanjm (#371)

And I KNEW from DAY 1 of Reagan's Election that Democracy was dead

Two points.

1. We are not a democracy. 2. Reagan was the greatest president of the twentieth century. A real patriot and a real good man.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-04-06   9:24:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#375. To: All (#372) (Edited)

While we're waiting, a little somethin' soemthin'....'}

What you wanna bet that these students will STILL be held liable for these 'loans':

" What's worse than graduating college with a beaucoup load of student loans? Having your college close abruptly leaving you with nothing to show for a beaucoup load of student loans. Here is InsideNOVA.com with the details:

Dreams were broken and students were left with crushing debt and nothing to show for it after ACT College abruptly closed its doors Tuesday.-billhicksisdead

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-06   9:29:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#376. To: A K A Stone (#374) (Edited)

Reagan was the greatest president of the twentieth century. A real patriot and a real good man.

I knew the instant the Iranians released the hostages during Raygun's Inauguration that the fix was in.

PATCO's destruction sealed the deal and then raygun was shot by bush41's best friend's son not two months later.

The bush Dynasty continued it's ascent.

The only good thing about Reagan was Volker and bush/Greenspan put an end to him right quick. And then bush41 takes over.

Gawd, how many times did Reagan say 'I don't know' about IranContra until at the End he actually got Alzheimers and truly did not know...;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-06   9:33:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#377. To: Fred Mertz (#373)

CM would be Captain May

# 3/7 Cavalry, Tragedy and Travesty By Captain Eric H May www.ccun.org/.../3-7%20Cavalry,...Cached

Apr 18, 2011 – US Foreign Policy (Dr. El-Najjar's Articles) · www.aljazeerah.info. 3/7 Cavalry, Tragedy and Travesty. By Captain Eric H May, Ghost Troop CO ...

Ghost Troop: The Art of Info-War | Veterans Today www.veteranstoday.com/201...he-art-of-info-war/Cached

May 14, 2011 – Commanded by Captain Eric H. May, Ghost Troop consists of current and past high-level military .... So that became Ghost Troop, 3/7 Cavalry.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-06   9:37:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#378. To: All (#377)

Here's Ghost Troop (part of it):

CPT Korn, Edward J. UNIT:4-64 AR, 2 HBCT FROM: Savannah, GA KIA: 3 April 03

Story of death makes zero sense. See above posts. Was on a Thunder Run to divert pressure from the Baghdad Airport.

The rest. Attn. Military site, lots of color. Takes a while to load but worth it.

www.stewart.army.mil/warrWalk/default.asp

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-06   9:47:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#379. To: mcgowanjm (#376)

I knew the instant the Iranians released the hostages during Raygun's Inauguration that the fix was in.

They knew Carter was a chump. They were afraid of Reagan.

You didn't "know" anything. You just had one of those famous hunches of yours. You know like the real off base hunch that Florida would have to be evacuated.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-04-06   10:37:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#380. To: A K A Stone (#379)

They knew Carter was a chump. They were afraid of Reagan.

As we now know, Reagan paid them off.

Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady

lucysmom  posted on  2012-04-06   10:48:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#381. To: lucysmom (#380)

As we now know, Reagan paid them off.

We don't know that. Because it isn't true. We do know that you lie though.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-04-06   10:56:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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