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Actually babies can sleep through noise. Yes, I'm sure. And bombs if it has to. But the ENvironment will completely re wire the babies nervous system. It'll be trouble/in trouble form then on.
In Lebanon, Sayyed Hassan Nasrallah recalled the brotherhood of arms uniting Hezbollah and Syria against Zionist expansionism, and assured the Syrian Army of its support. The bomb attack was the signal for the second part of the operation. Commandos infiltrated the capital, then attacked various more or less chosen targets. Thus, a group of about a hundred Contras attacked the house adjacent to my apartment in the cry of Allah Akbar. A senior military official resides there. Ten hours of uninterrupted fighting ensued. Whereas at the beginning of the night, the Army responded with measure , the order was later given to use force without restraint. It was no longer a question of fighting against terrorists destabilizing Syria, but of saving the country facing an undeclared alien invasion. Aircraft went into action to destroy columns of mercenaries heading to the capital. By late morning, calm was gradually returning to the city. The Contras and their collaborators were forced to withdraw everywhere. Traffic was resuming on major roads, and checkpoints were installed in the city center. Life was returning to normal. However, we still hear scattered gunfire here and there. Most businesses are closed, and there are long queues outside bakeries. Everyone expects that the final assault will be launched on the night of Thursday to Friday and all day Friday. There is no doubt that the Syrian army will emerge victorious again, the power relationship being to its advantage. The conscript army is supported by the population, including the domestic political opposition. As expected, Arabsat and Nilesat had disconnected the Ad-Dunya television signal in the middle of the afternoon. The Twitter account of Ad-Dounia has been hacked by the CIA in order to disseminate false messages announcing a retreat of the Syrian Army.
" Over the last few weeks, a number of my fellow peak oil writers have expressed worries about this outpouring of counterfactual drivel. Myself, I find it a very hopeful sign. What we are seeing is the shattering of the consensus that has excluded any discussion of peak oil from the collective conversation of our time. Plenty of pundits who refused to talk about peak oil at all are now talking about it incessantly. Even though they’re screeching at the top of their lungs that it can’t happen, and scrabbling around for any argument, however feeble or blatantly false, they can use to back up that proposition, they’re still talking about it."
we standardly assume that technology solves all problems. I concluded [ in the No Way Out? paper ] that this usually implicit assumption should be tossed out... Amy Jaffe explicitly stated the assumption in an interview on the PBS Newshour. Well, you know, we, in the American public, we are a big believer that there's a science and technology solution to everything — everything. So — and it was really amazing that the industry — we were sort of running out of oil onshore, and the industry was able to go out to the depths of the earth, under the sea, and keep us driving around in our cars. So, to sit here night after night and watch all these scientists unable to close a simple pipeline, even though it's a very complex engineering problem, as a layperson, when you sit here and watch the oil just spewing out of this pipeline... It's just this horror movie, like we cannot believe that there isn't a technology to close this pipeline. And we, as Americans, believe there's a technological solution to everything. And the idea that we're going to have to wait until August for the technological solution, I think it's just got people just gripped in terror. Amy is so terrified by the prospect that technology doesn't solve all problems that she starts repeating herself. The alert reader will note that I wrote (back in early 2010) that the Assumption of Technological Progress should be tossed out. That usage was disingenuous. I would never use the word "should" today because my view, then and now, is that technological optimism is built right into Homo sapiens. Perhaps I was offering a fig leaf of hope, but I don't do that anymore. I am far more apt to write text like this, which appeared in my post Techno-Optimists Running Wild! Human love for technology is second only to our love of money. If humans can replace thousands of fellow humans with some machinery which does the same thing those inferior humans were doing, they'll make that "positive" choice in a heartbeat. More money and machines too? You can't beat that! Let's face it, technology is the only thing Homo sapiens is good at. The historical record makes it entirely clear that humans can't govern themselves, don't understand themselves, and can't change their own fundamental behaviors. For example, they can't just say No when given the opportunity to apply some technology and destroy the lives of all those fellow (albeit inferior) humans just mentioned. Technology is the solution to all problems, even when a problem does not exist, or the technology itself creates far more problems than it solves. Technology Über Alles." DOTE decline of the Empire peakwatch
Slaughter In Iraq As 145 Are Killed And 379 More Are Wounded Margaret Griffis July 22, 2012 - A second day of intensified attacks left at least 145 Iraqis Killed and 379 more wounded. The attacks, mostly bombings, seemed to focus on security personnel in Sunni-dominated areas. Several more bombs were defused, while others exploded without leaving casualties. A large number of attacks and casualties always leads to conflicting figures as separate authorities report different numbers. Also, more casualties are expected in at least Taji where bombs demolished several residential buildings... ;} A Note on how even and especially progressive media (USSAMSM simple ignores it;) is Confused about Insurgent Tactics..... Mainly because it has Internalized the USSA MSM message. Today there's a lot fewer USSA MErcs patrolling IRaq than there were three days ago.
It is believed that NATO and the Gulf State's FSA terrorist proxies have reached the very limit of their ability to destabilize Syria and the West recognizes the necessity of limited strikes to cripple a Syrian government that remains intact, coherent, and far from "crumbling" as the Western media has tried, but failed to portray. Veteran Indian diplomat, M K Bhadrakumar, wrote as much in his most recent analysis titled, "The rise and fall of Turkey's Erdogan." However, a pretext for such strikes must be fabricated - and there have been stark warnings from analysts and international press from around the world of a possible false-flag chemical weapons attack staged by NATO and its proxies to be then blamed on the Syrian government, and give NATO, Israel, and the Gulf States the impetus they've sought for a wider military intervention. The hysterical rhetoric coming from the West is directly proportional to the failing fortunes of their terrorist proxies on the ground across Syria.
Wider UNSC dissension, Turkish offensive against its own "rebels," and Iraq's rejection of latest "Arab League" statement before massive Al Qaeda attacks. by Tony Cartalucci July 23, 2012 - Scratching just below the surface of the Western media's headlines are stories carrying greater implications - stories the West believes are better left untold. "Operation Damascus Volcano" Followed Weeks of Warnings of Impending NATO Psy-Op. Beginning last week, headlines were overrun by a coordinated NATO-backed "Free Syrian Army" (FSA) offensive and an assassination bombing in Damascus, timed so close to each other and the UN Security Council vote on sanctions, the vote was pushed back a day. The attacks dubbed, "Operation Damascus Volcano" were clearly coordinated with the assassination bombing, designed for psychological impact, and when Syrians reacted with resolve, they quickly collapsed. What went unreported until over a week later, were warnings of a potential NATO psychological warfare operation, matching hijacked satellite channels broadcasting false reports with an initially violent but ultimately futile militant offensive to stampede the Syrian government out of power on a wave of confusion and panic. It appears "Damascus Volcano" was just that operation. The Western media would not cover this story until a week later, when security operations in Damascus concluded in the favor of the government and Syrian state television repeatedly made warnings to its viewers about further potential disinformation campaigns. Even then, reports were limited to "Tweets" by Western journalists and headlines in China's English news.
Sweet Jesus.... None of these attacks were 'random'. They All had Military targets..... Any exception merely proves the rule. Simultaneous Two Day Bombing from North to South. The USSA will lose Iraq by Xmas.
And now the Domestic Mirror of the Foreign.... Again....over by Xmas....;} "Although unlike HSBC, the NAR's money laundering at least leads to benefits for everyone, in the form of perpetuating the delusion that US real estate is fairly priced in when a few robber barons from around the world become indiscriminate marginal price settlers eager to put their money in the "safety" of the US. And lately, with the latest forced delusion being that US real estate has bottomed and is rising even as the global economy is decelerating at the fastest pace in the past 3 years, the NAR serves a handy purpose: it provides a reflexive way of misrepresenting the underlying trends in real estate, suckering the marginal fool in once again, as it did throughout the period between 2000 and 2007.
Note again how the Recession blamed on 9/11 starts in May... sunken pace of residential construction spending in May was $268 billion – essentially the same levels seen in 1997. This profoundly low level of activity is not limited to the residential sector; spending on commercial structures is currently the same as in 1996. In other words, instead of "housing recovery" a much better phrase would be "the rich are getting richer", and everyone else can go suck a lollipop and watch their wealth evaporate courtesy of Z/NIRP.
by Iranian-Revolutionary-guards on 24.07.2012 [11:29 ] His knowledge of what Syria and Iran possess is childish or he is spreading Propaganda. The ending of world war 3(most people call armageddon) will occur within 5 months before 2012 is over. I stated that on my youtube page and elsewhere on youtube last year. My youtube id is worldcomingtoend. Iran possess over 500 nuclear weapons. 250 of of them came from Ukraine over 10 years ago before Ukraine was suppose to hand them over to Russia and get nothing in Return. Iran's first 4 nukes came from Khazakstan back in late 1991 and early 1992 right after the soviet union break up. those are facts. My brother is married to a ukranian woman and that woman's father used to work for ukraine's intelligence. I verified it with him. Iran did not just get 250 nukes. it got lots of missiles and lots of advanced radar and more importantly, ukranian scientists and know how. I know Iron clay will say where is your link? he is that childish to think iranians will advertise having nukes. I have high ranking members of IRGC in my family and i knew iran got its first nukes about 20 years ago within months of it happening. Some of Iranian nukes have been placed in Syria, Lebanon(hezbollah terrority). Venezuela and 2 other south/central american countries which i dont want to get into right now. Iran has had nuclear submarines near US east coast for over 2 years. I know iron clay the childish amateurish will question my sources. His sources are Jane's defense, google, wiki, msm and other crappy zionist and imperialist bs. My info is inside info. my sources are my family members who work for the Revolutionary guards. iran has placed missiles with nukes in Venezuela and 2 other latin american countries. United States, canada and the rest of nato scum will be vaporized within 5 months. If i am wrong in 5 months, i will come on this board and tell you i was wrong but i wont be. this site and the internet will not exist for a long time after armageddon." Don;t know about the 'armageddon' bit, except that Israel seems to be really trying to start something....;} But I've always believed the following. The Ukraine NEver passes on a chance for Free Billions.....;} " Iran possess over 500 nuclear weapons. 250 of of them came from Ukraine over 10 years ago before Ukraine was suppose to hand them over to Russia and get nothing in Return. Iran's first 4 nukes came from Khazakstan back in late 1991 and early 1992 right after the soviet union break up. those are facts."
The USSA MSM is lying to you. The truth replaced by silence is evil.....;} "Son Nghiem of NASA’s Jet Propulsion Laboratory in Pasadena, Calif., was analyzing radar data from the Indian Space Research Organisation’s (ISRO) Oceansat-2 satellite last week when he noticed that most of Greenland appeared to have undergone surface melting on July 12. Nghiem said, “This was so extraordinary that at first I questioned the result: was this real or was it due to a data error?” Not. A. Word....
Title: EU upgrades Israel because ‘nobody wants fuss’ with Jewish community or Washington URL Source: mondoweiss.net/2012/07/eu-up ... h-community-or-washington.html Post Date: 2012-07-24 10:51:20 by Robin Keywords: None Views: 14 Comments: 6 by Philip Weiss on July 24, 2012 Readers ask why I focus on the American Jewish community. Because I think it holds the key. Phoebe Greenwood in the Guardian on Europe's mixed message to Israel: The EU will offer Israel upgraded trade and diplomatic relations in more than 60 areas at a high-level meeting in Brussels on Tuesday, just weeks after European foreign ministers warned that Israeli policies in the West Bank "threaten to make a two-state solution impossible".... One senior EU diplomat, speaking on condition of anonymity, said that despite private complaints of the inconsistency of chastising Israel with one hand while rewarding it with the other, not one minister was prepared to oppose Tuesday's agreement. "I was struck by the fact that a whole range of relations was offered to Israel – at the request of Israel – as if nothing is happening on the ground," the diplomat said. "Most ministers are too afraid to speak out in case they are singled out as being too critical towards Israel, because, in the end, relations with Israel are on the one hand relations with the Jewish community at large and on the other hand with Washington – nobody wants to have fuss with Washington. So [ministers] are fine with making political statements but they refrain from taking concrete action." This piece serves my contention that the Israel lobby is central to the dysfunction, and that my own work involves issues of community self-interest: persuading western Jews that Jewish sovereignty in the Middle East is undermining our safety, not enhancing it. And hurting lots of other folks too. Click for Full Text! Post Comment Private Reply Bookmark Ignore Thread Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest #1. To: Robin (#0) Empires never know when they hit overreach. If only they had stopped at (fill in the blank).....;} Hubris. mcgowanjm posted on 2012-07-25 7:04:35 ET Reply Trace Private Reply Edit #2. To: All (#1) And just exactly how does the imploding EU help anyone....;} "We all know the story in Europe. The peripheral EZ economies are in freefall as private/public credit evaporates and unemployment soars, while the backlash against blatant wealth extraction, a.k.a. “austerity”, has reached epic proportions. Greece is closer than ever to saying “SHOVE IT” and leaving the Union. So what happens after that?? Europe will be F.U.B.A.R., that’s what. Capital exodus, financial contagion, hyperinflation, social unrest, civil war – you name it – it’s all on the table. What if Greece manages to stay in and none of this happens? Does that mean everything is all better and the crisis point has been averted? Go ahead – sit back, relax and give it a few more weeks or months, but just remember that you will NEVER know when it will hit you like a MACK truck – only that it most certainly will." "Last and certainly least on my list of countries to rant against is the United States. This place is an amalgamation of the worst aspects of every other country. It’s a financially-fragile, energy-dependent, consumerist-minded, generationally-entitled, politically-fractured, demographically-f**ked imperial police state. We may make it to November elections in relative peace just because our crony political establishment and media spin machines will pull out every trick play in their playbooks to keep the mind-numbingly ignorant population with blinders on until then. After that, all bets are off." www.doomsteaddiner.org/bl...5/planet-earth-f-u-b-a-r/ mcgowanjm posted on 2012-07-25 7:09:02 ET Reply Trace Private Reply Edit #3. To: All (#2) So the EU subsidizes Israel while starving it's own.... "– Fuel prices money. Right now money represents fuel-using-activities which have been promoted as highly fashionable by the marketing industry. Coming soon is money representing the fuel itself. We are almost there. The outcome is nasty. Whether Bernanke understands this is uncertain. He is a very smart dude but says little about energy, the rest of the establishment lies through its teeth about energy. " mcgowanjm posted on 2012-07-25 7:16:12 ET Reply Trace Private Reply Edit #4. To: All (#3) The following 10 countries -- all of them burgeoning new petrostates -- make the winner's list because, even if they ultimately botch the moment and send most of the profit into private Swiss bank accounts, the coming energy boom gives them a much greater chance at big economic prosperity: Cyprus, Ethiopia, French Guiana, Israel, Kenya, Mozambique, Sierra Leone, Somalia, Tanzania, and Uganda. " See a pattern there?.....;} oilandglory.foreignpolicy..._the_coming_age_of_plenty Never happen..... mcgowanjm posted on 2012-07-25 7:18:34 ET Reply Trace Private Reply Edit #5. To: All (#4) "Unenlightened petrocrats: Oil prices could be lower and volatile in a world of surplus. So for states relying on a single economy such as oil or gas, "it is not a pretty picture," said Morse. He forecasts much political turmoil, and a struggle to keep market share. That includes Chàvez for sure, but could also jostle Teodoro Obiang Nguema, the allegedly corrupt president of Equatorial Guinea, Turkmenistan President Gurbanguly Berdymukhamedov, and Iranian Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khameini. Russia: Michael Levi of the Council on Foreign Relations led the panelists, plus many audience members, in singling out Russia as a key loser since Putin shows no sign so far of genuine economic diversification. " BUWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.....and Fidel is a corrupt stupid loser....who should give up now......;} mcgowanjm posted on 2012-07-25 7:21:16 ET Reply Trace Private Reply Edit #6. To: All (#5) And the Coup de Grace: "The green edifice: The movement to slow or stop global warming could be derailed as winning nations focus more on getting rich than cleaning up their carbon footprint, concluded Robin West, chairman of PFC Energy, an energy research firm. The bar was already high for green-tech companies to compete against the economics of fossil-fuel energy; with lower oil and gas prices, the bar rises higher. There is a ray of hope, though: Rather than driving green-tech companies out of business, lower energy prices could create a new consumer choice. "Depending on how you value the environment and [what you think about] global warming," you can choose to run your life on fossil fuels or on cleaner technology, said Chow. Who knows? Policymakers may reverse their current ambivalence, too, and decide that, even though fossil fuels are plentiful, it is better to go clean. " This is the BIg Oilogarchy trumpeting this Scheiss.... Hoover Dam stops producing in 2017..... Greenland is past the Tipping Point....going Non Linear. mcgowanjm posted on 2012-07-25 7:23:55 ET Reply Trace Private Reply Edit
Notice how LF will talk about Market Manipulation Climate Change Peak Oil When Hell Freezing Over LMFAO See Watson River Greenland carrying Humanity into Oblivion by 2020 for details.....;}
Spain can Not fund short term obligations..... July 25, 2012 UK ECONOMIC SLUMP: A recession of olympic proportions Wonder why only 95 000 people watch CNBC?.....;}
Although the full ONS data aren’t live until 9.30 am BST today, there has as usual been Much-Leaking-in-the-Cabinet. Allegedly the numbers will show a 0.2% negative for GDP in Q2 2012. That follows 0.3% in Q1, and 0.4% in 2011 Q4. Do three Qs of negatives make a QE3? Not as far as the MPC’s vote last week is concerned, but then nobody has the answer to that equation. 09.35 BS update – the decline is a whopping 0.7%!
Market Manipulation Climate Change Peak Oil When Hell Freezing Over LMFAO See Watson River Greenland carrying Humanity into Oblivion by 2020 for details.....;} The climate used to be warmer. Hence trees and vegetation under the ice in Antartica. Hence tools found in mountains in Europe when snow melted. Tools that were centuries old. Peak oil is propaganda. Fracking has increased the supply supplanting your wishful delusions. Hell will not freeze over.
So who are you voting for anyway. Who did you vote for in 2008, 2004, 2000, 1996, 1992, 1988, 1984?
#571. To: All (#570) – When money represents energy the various currencies will sort themselves out (or the reverse will happen as with the euro) and the winner will fall out of circulation (hoarded). The other currencies will simply vanish or will buy goods OTHER THAN fuel. Energy availability will plummet, to meet the small amount of ‘good currency’ in circulation available at any given time for fuel purchase. mcgowanjm posted on 2012-07-25 8:15:07 ET Reply Trace Private Reply Edit #572. To: All (#571) From the bottom of my heart I would like to thank those kind readers who sent checks to defray the expenses of traveling to West Virginia for the RAMPS action. THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU. Your sponsorship means so much to me and honestly, it gives me courage to know I have the support of friends, and even two people I have never met. It turns out the campground is next to a huge forested park with a lovely river running through it, so I am really excited to hike through the woods there. If nothing else, this will be an adventure. Posted by Gail at 7:07 AM RAMPS RAMPS RAMPS stands for Radical Action for Mountain People's Survival. This organization fights the horrible practice of mountaintop removal to extract coal. If you've never seen pictures or videos of this monstrous travesty, you can't imagine how obscenely destructive it is. RAMPS is planning a week-long training this summer which will culminate in a physical intervention to halt mining. Even though their name says Mountain People's Survival, actually, it is critical to stop coal for all of us to survive. The direct damage from mining is destroying the forests and causing cancer epidemics locally in Appalachia - while the emissions from coal burning plants are killing trees and making people sick quite literally everywhere. The group is closely aligned with Earth First, anti-fracking, and other environmental groups committed to direct action. mcgowanjm posted on 2012-07-25 8:19:38 ET
'Heat Dome' Linked To Greenland's Biggest Melt In 30 Years And '30 years' is only because that's how far back their Satellite Coverage goes...... ;} try since the last Ice Age..... Post Wed Jul 25, 2012 9:05 am by mcgowanjm And this is from our actual scientists doing the study: Researchers have not yet determined whether this extensive melt event will affect the overall volume of ice loss this summer and contribute to sea level rise. the Arctic is ice free this time next year. See Watson River Greenland Flooding humanity to oblivion....youtube. Expect this year to be the new normal. 115 in Kansas City. Hoover Dam stops producing 2017.
Who did you vote for in 2008, 2004, 2000, 1996, 1992, 1988, 1984? Makes no difference. But I'll be voting the same as Poor Women, Blacks, Gays, Hispanics. The Elections have been rigged since 1968. The Top 400 can't leave anything to chance.
O yeah. Interglacials the norm. See Lake E US Russia Germany Austria Sediment cores. Humans and their Civilizations not so much....;}
So very true. Don't know how you think that helps your case.
Yes. The frozen man. There's a reason Civilizations only number 25. And only since the beginning of the Holocene.
Hell will not freeze over. "– When money represents energy the various currencies will sort themselves out (or the reverse will happen as with the euro) and the winner will fall out of circulation (hoarded). The other currencies will simply vanish or will buy goods OTHER THAN fuel. Energy availability will plummet, to meet the small amount of ‘good currency’ in circulation available at any given time for fuel purchase. Think about how much cash is in circulation right now (not e-money) and you get the idea how much fuel will be available. Access to circulating money will be the way fuel is rationed (if not directly by way of fuel cards) the same way access to credit rations fuel now. Needless to say there will be no credit at all."
Fracked wells produce 90% of their 'reserve' the first year. Fracking is a Real Estate flip/bubble. and Benzene/methane cloud producer. And at neg EROEI, a non starter which will leave behind destroyed aquifers....;} Good luck on maintaining Amerika with $3.60 the gal gasoline.
"This is the straitjacket that central banks and treasuries face and there is almost nothing they can do about it. If they ‘adjust’ (depreciate) their currencies they won’t be able to swap them for fuel. The producers will absolutely dominate: instead of accepting false-promises of ‘growth’ in trade for their valuable resources they will demand resources in return. Having a crude tradeable currency means having one that is as hard to find as a one-armed violin player. " http://www.economic-undertow.com/ The DXY goes to 90 and/or the USSA loses it's Empire by Xmas.
#574. To: All (#573) " Son Nghiem of NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory in Pasadena, Calif., was analyzing radar data from the Indian Space Research Organisation's (ISRO) Oceansat-2 satellite last week when he noticed that most of Greenland appeared to have undergone surface melting on July 12. Nghiem said, "This was so extraordinary that at first I questioned the result: was this real or was it due to a data error?" But then no one else I talked to cared to discuss it, so I just called it 'data error' ND WENT ON WITH MY BUZY WORK....;} mcgowanjm posted on 2012-07-25 9:55:18 ET
The problem is that there is almost no attempt at cross science platforms. No realization of Positive Feedback Loops. "The usual response is to insist that the US can trade agricultural goods for fuel. The difficulty with that thesis is that agriculture is itself a petroleum dependency. With insufficient funds agriculture will be less productive, there will be less surpluses to trade. Diminished fuel inputs would constrain output further effecting the fuel trade in a vicious cycle. Soon enough there would be insufficient agricultural goods to trade and less fuel available for agriculture itself." Like the above. The MOMENT the USSA can't provide grain, it's Empire implodes.
www.answersingenesis.org/.../fit/flood-caused-ice-age In order to understand the mysteries of the woolly mammoth, we need to first understand the Ice Age. This is because the woolly mammoth is a denizen of the Ice Age (see appendix 4). I will first delve into a biblical theory for the development of one Ice Age. We will then be prepared to answer the questions surrounding the woolly mammoth. Scientists have collected mounds of evidence proving that ice once covered most of Canada and parts of the northern and central United States. Evidence is also found in northern Europe, northwest Asia, many of the large mountain ranges of Eurasia, and high mountainous areas of the Southern Hemisphere and tropics. But the truth is, scientists still do not know the cause of the Ice Age as succinctly stated by David Alt1: “Although theories abound, no one really knows what causes ice ages.” Uniformitarianism has not been able to explain the Ice Age, or events related to the Ice Age. Ice sheets are not developing and melting today so we have no way to actually observe how they developed in the past. The woolly mammoths are extinct, so we cannot witness whether they could survive in Siberia. Large lakes are not filling the deserts of the earth. Animal and plant distributions were different during the Ice Age, unlike any pattern observed today. And, we have not observed the kind of mass extinctions that occurred at the end of the Ice Age. It is doubtful that evolutionists will find a present process that can explain the origin of the Ice Age or the mass extinctions of large mammals. It is very likely the difficulty in knowing the cause of the Ice Age does not lie in the data that has been gathered for over two centuries but in the assumptions. It is my conviction, and that of many others, that the assumption of uniformitarianism needs to be rejected. I believe it is this assumption and the antagonism of mainstream scientists toward catastrophism that has blinded their minds toward a solution of the Ice Age, as well as for the woolly mammoths. Guthrie,2 speaking in regard to the common disharmonious associations and subsequent extinctions associated with the Ice Age, discovered early in his career: Looking at the extinction problem through the eyes of a young paleontologist in the early 1960s, I encountered my first important lesson — that the present can be used to understand the past only with sensitive discretion. In fact, much of the past may have no modern analogue. Larry Marshall3 sums up a book on Ice Age extinctions by saying: Many chapter authors argue that the old axiom — the present is the key to the past — no longer stands. Guthrie (chap. 13) speaks of the standards tied to normalcy of present as being erroneous when looking at the Pleistocene. The present can no longer be regarded as the norm. They conclude that uniformitarianism cannot be applied to the recent past — the time of the Ice Age and the woolly mammoth. It is this doctrine of uniformitarianism that has retarded understanding of these many mysteries. Catastrophism offers a more logical and less flawed solution to the dual mysteries. I believe that we need to revisit the rejected biblical world view, one that takes the straightforward account in Genesis 1–11 as early earth history. This account and many other traditions describe a global Flood. The global Flood, believed by most scientists in the 1700s and early 1800s, was really never proved wrong. Scientists in the mid to late 1800s simply decided they wanted to assume uniformitarianism instead. One of the results of a global Flood would be the perturbation of the climate before it reached the equilibrium we observe today (figure 7.1). It is within this transitional climate that the mysteries of the Ice Age and woolly mammoth find a reasonable solution. Figure 7.1 Figure 7.1. Time frame for the Ice Age in relationship to the Flood. (Illustration by Daniel Lewis of AiG.) The first requirement — cooler summers From the description of the Genesis flood in the Bible, we have been able to glean enough information to form an idea about what the world was like during and immediately after the catastrophe. Genesis chapters 7 and 8 record: "In the six hundredth year of Noah’s life, in the second month, on the seventeenth day of the second month, on that day all the fountains of the great deep burst open, and the floodgates of the sky were opened. And the rain fell upon the earth for forty days and forty nights. . . . And the waters prevailed and increased greatly upon the earth . . . so that all the high mountains everywhere under the heavens were covered. . . . And the water prevailed upon the earth one hundred and fifty days. . . . and the water receded steadily from the earth. . . . And in the second month, on the twenty-seventh day of the month, the earth was dry" (NASB). Scripture indicates that much of the water for the Flood came from the “fountains of the great deep.” The deep or great deep refers to the ocean.4 The bursting open of the fountains of the great deep implies the ocean rose up and covered the land or that oceanic or subterranean sources of water burst forth onto the land.5 Monumental geological and hydrological activity occurred early in the Flood. Gigantic earthquakes could have caused large cracks or rifts in the earth’s crust, explosively releasing subterranean water and triggering volcanic activity. By inference, the mountains before the Flood were fairly low, and even if the mountains were above 10,000 feet (3,000 m) the strong currents of a worldwide Flood would have eroded the mountains that did exist. Since the fountains of the great deep are mentioned before the rains, it is likely that they caused most of the rainfall. Rainfall was the second contributor to the Flood waters. Figure 7.2 Figure 7.2. This graph shows the relative rise in sea level in 150 days followed by a gradual fall in 221 days. The reason the curve is not smooth is because several variables would cause the sea level to oscillate up and down during the general rise and fall. The dashed line represents an alternative interpretation in which the Flood peaks in 40 days. According to the biblical record, the Flood waters increased and covered the earth by the 150th day, the fastest rise likely occurring in the first 40 days followed by a slow rise or “prevailing” for the next 110 days (figure 7.2). (Some creationists believe that the Flood peaked in 40 days, which is the alternative dashed line in figure 7.2.) The Flood waters then receded from the future continents for the next 221 days when the ocean basins subsided and the mountains rose as recorded in Psalm 104:6–9 (NASB).6 Interbedded within the sedimentary rocks is evidence of incredible volcanic activity that has no parallel today. Vast, unusually thick layers of volcanic flows and ash interlayer sedimentary rocks and fit the worldwide Flood paradigm very well. It appears that at the end of the Flood the world was covered by huge volumes of volcanic ash and gas that had spewed into the atmosphere.7 The abundant ash and gas trapped in the stratosphere would act as an “anti-greenhouse” (see figure 6.1). Instead of warming the earth, it would reflect sunlight back into space and cool it. At the same time, infrared radiation would continue to escape the earth. Scientists recognize that volcanic dust and gas can substantially cool the earth. Most people in the United States remember the eruption of Mount St. Helens in Washington State in May of 1980. I watched as a dark “dry fog” spread from Oregon into central Montana where I lived. The darkness lasted for two days. Although I saw it as a major event, this eruption was actually small compared to many during the past two hundred years. The largest include Agung on the island of Bali in 1963; Krakatoa, Indonesia, in 1883; Tambora, Indonesia, in 1815; and Laki, Iceland, in 1783. Large modern eruptions usually cool a region or hemisphere a degree or two Fahrenheit (about 1°C). The cooling normally lasts one to three years as the ash and gases slowly fall out of the stratosphere. Tambora was the largest eruption and is credited with causing the “year without a summer” in 1816. An unprecedented series of cold spells chilled the northeastern United States and adjoining Canadian provinces. Heavy snow fell in June, and frost caused crop failures in July and August. Even Europe felt the chill that summer. David Keys8 makes a case that a massive volcanic eruption in Indonesia caused the darkness, cooling, crop failures, and social upheaval that was recorded in AD 535. The extensive volcanism that would result from a worldwide Flood would have a much greater impact on the climate than in historical times. Volcanic ash and gases from the Flood would probably take at least three years to fall out. Three years would be enough time to start an Ice Age. The eruptions would need to continue for many years after the Flood to sustain it.9 Geologists recognize that there was extensive volcanic activity during the Ice Age. Ice Age researcher Charlesworth10 writes: . . . signs of Pleistocene [Ice Age] vulcanicity and earth-movements are visible in all parts of the world. In the western United States alone there were more than 68 different ash falls, mostly coinciding with the Ice Age. Some of the volcanic eruptions were very extensive. Figure 7.3 Figure 7.3. Waning volcanism after the Flood. In the South Pacific, an exceptionally large ash layer from an eruption in New Zealand was discovered. It spread a thick layer of ash over four million square miles (10 million sq. km) and would have darkened the entire earth for several months. This eruption would have caused a tremendous cooling of the continents. The Ice Age eruptions were much larger than what we have experienced during the past 200 years. So evidence indicates that after the Flood, volcanic eruptions would have been able to replenish the stratospheric dust and gases and sustain the cooling. Since the eruptions were more or less random as the earth gradually settled down after the global Flood, volcanism would show peaks and lulls within a pattern of gradual decline (figure 7.3). The effect of severe volcanic eruptions has been compared to the aftermath of a nuclear war. Computer models of a nuclear war show dust and soot causing a “nuclear winter.” During a “nuclear winter,” continental summer temperatures can drop below freezing in a matter of days. Toon11 and others speculate with regard to nuclear winter: Sub-freezing temperatures for six months over the entire globe could possibly lead to extensive snowfield buildup over large areas of the continents. Such snowfields would greatly increase the albedo [reflectivity] of the earth and could sustain themselves indefinitely. The large eruption in New Zealand is an analogy for the worst nuclear winter models that block out nearly all sunlight all over the world for several months. So, nuclear winter models provide insight into how continental areas can cool enough from atmospheric dust and gases for an ice age to develop. If volcanic activity is such a good cooling mechanism, why haven’t uniformitarian scientists incorporated it into their Ice Age models? They realize that volcanic ash and gases cool the planet but can’t invoke volcanism because they believe each ice age lasted 100,000 years. There has not been enough volcanism to be significant over such a period of time. Paul Damon12 writes: . . . volcanic explosions would need to be an order of magnitude [ten times] more numerous than during the past 160 years to result in continental glaciation equivalent to the Wisconsin glacial episode. The Wisconsin glacial episode is the last glaciation, according to the uniformitarian multiple glaciation system. One researcher, however, has attempted to incorporate volcanism to start an ice age. Bray13 postulates that a short period of enhanced volcanism may initiate the needed summer snow cover. Bray14 states: I suggest here that such a [snow] survival could have resulted from one or several closely spaced massive volcanic ash eruptions. Then he relies on a snow cover to take over and continue the summer cooling for an ice age. Unfortunately, there could not be enough volcanism to sustain such an “ice age” for more than a few years without constant eruptions. The snow would quickly melt when the sunshine increased. The creationist’s time scale is telescoped, putting all these tremendous volcanic eruptions into a relatively short period after the Flood. It is the short time frame that makes the difference. The atmospheric consequences of frequent eruptions would allow an ice age to develop and be sustained. The second requirement — heavy snow Extensive summer cooling of the land is the first requirement needed for an ice age to develop. High snowfall is the second. Cooling alone cannot generate more precipitation, since cold air holds less moisture, not more. This is the major reason why uniformitarian Ice Age theories fail. In the Ice Age model after the Flood, the abundant moisture needed for an ice age would be produced by evaporation from a warm ocean at mid and high latitudes. Why would the oceans be warm? First, it is likely the pre-Flood ocean was warmer than now. Secondly, if the water from the “fountains of the great deep” came from within earth’s crust, much hot water would be added to the pre-Flood ocean. The earth’s crust warms about 10°F per 1,000 feet (2°C per 100 m) depth. If the water for the fountains came from 3,000 feet (900 m), it would be quite warm. If it came from 10,000 or more feet (3,000 m), the water would have been hot. Third, intense tectonic activity during the Flood and lava flows would add more heat. Earthquakes and rapid ocean currents during the Flood would mix this warm water with the pre-Flood ocean. As a result, the ocean immediately following the Flood would have been warm from pole to pole and from top to bottom. Because of this, the Arctic and Antarctic Oceans would have had no sea ice and, as strange as it may seem in today’s climate, may have been warm enough for a pleasant swim. The importance of warm surface water temperatures is that the warmer the water the greater the evaporation (figure 7.4). For example, if all other variables remain constant, water evaporates three times faster at an ocean temperature of 86°F (30°C) than at 50°F (10°C), and seven times faster than at 32°F (0°C). So a universally warm ocean would generate a high amount of evaporation. Figure 7.4 Figure 7.4. Steam fog from a pond caused by colder atmospheric temperatures and warm water. Would all this heat from a warm ocean keep the high and mid latitudes too warm for the Ice Age? In some areas it would — until the ocean cooled enough by evaporation and contact with colder air. The warm ocean at mid and high latitudes is a key to unraveling the mysteries of the woolly mammoths that will be developed in chapter 14. Although the oceans would be warm, the continents would be cool due to the volcanic ash and dust in the stratosphere. The heat released by the warm ocean and its mixing with the air over the land would result in milder winter temperatures compared to today. The main effect of the volcanic ash and gases would be to cause the land to cool during the summer. In summary, the Flood and its aftershocks provide the volcanic dust and gases that bring the summer cooling indispensable for the Ice Age. Water from the “"fountains of the great deep"” and mixing during the Flood provides a warm ocean. In the mid and high latitudes the warm ocean would cause copious evaporation and produce massive amounts of snow. The two ingredients required for an Ice Age, cool temperatures and tons of snow, were dramatically fulfilled immediately after the Genesis flood. This unique climate would persist for hundreds of years after the Flood as the intensity of the two mechanisms slowly decreased.
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Who did you vote for in 2008, 2004, 2000, 1996, 1992, 1988, 1984? Makes no difference. But I'll be voting the same as Poor Women, Blacks, Gays, Hispanics. The Elections have been rigged since 1968. Yes it does. Answer the question. You're not credible unless you answer.
Don't know how you think that helps your case. Did you know trees don't grow when the ground is covered in ice? What does that mean? Come on use your head. So what does that mean?
It is under 3 bucks in Kentucky and in the South. At least it was a month or so ago.
Hi Jim^;)
We have plenty of fuel to produce our food. To think otherwise is well stupid. Food trumps fuel. I know this from playing M.U.L.E..
Went back up to $3.30-3.35 a gal in Texas. Was down to $3.03, never made it below in my area.
As iron sharpens iron, So a man sharpens the countenance of his friend. -Proverbs 27:17 (NKJV)
To save the collective asses of the Top 400-50 000.....that is it. Everything you're hearing now. Of what's being done. The previous iteration of crooks (see Sandy Weill, Jack Abromowitz;) are out giving advice on how to fix the scam. mother of fxuking god....;} War is being planned, cause after the 1/2 life of this multi year fiasco is over, that's all they got.....;} http://billhicksisdead.blogspot.com/ That story was bad enough, but now comes word that while the Miami-Dade County commissioners were showering taxpayer money on scumbag billionaire Marlins owner Jeffrey Loria, a dire crisis was building up elsewhere in the county. From the Miami Herald: Miami-Dade County’s three main water treatment plants and nearly 14,000 miles of pipelines are so outdated it would take more than $1.1 billion just to replace the “most deteriorated, vulnerable sections” of the system, a newly released internal study shows. The county’s main water treatment in Hialeah, and two sewage plants, on Virginia Key and in South Miami-Dade, are 56, 45 and 87 years old, respectively. It wasn't ever going to end any other way. You knew that. You knew. When Jeffrey Loria and David Samson are involved, it can't end any other way, because they know no different. Loria is the owner of the Marlins, Samson the president, and they're turning the Miami Marlins into a chop shop. Anibal Sanchez and Omar Infante were traded first this week, to the Tigers. Then Hanley Ramirez, who until this year Loria regarded as the franchise, to the Dodgers. Next could be Josh Johnson, their homegrown ace. That would be $32.75 million shed within a week, bringing the Marlins from their $100 million dream back to the bottom quarter of payrolls in baseball. And Miami is stuck with $2.4 billion in stadium debt service for that.
I've pretty much got you pegged as a Texas City citizen. OR Colorado OR FLorida. You're clueless about agriculture and how it works.... or doesn't. Example: IT takes the energy equivalent of 7 nukes to get Iowa fields ready to plant. O and you don't use diesel. And you've no idea how much fuel the USSA uses per week. And the Difference between now and 2007.
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Notice how LF will talk about
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So who are you voting for anyway.
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The climate used to be warmer. Hence trees and vegetation under the ice in Antartica. Hence tools found in mountains in Europe when snow melted.
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Hence trees and vegetation under the ice in Antartica.
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Hence tools found in mountains in Europe when snow melted.
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Peak oil is propaganda. Fracking has increased the supply supplanting your wishful delusions.
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Fracking has increased the supply supplanting your wishful delusions.
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try since the last Ice Age.....
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So who are you voting for anyway.
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So very true.
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We have plenty of fuel to produce our food. To think otherwise is well stupid.
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